tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post5341194776936514697..comments2024-03-26T19:23:49.755-07:00Comments on Introibo Ad Altare Dei: An Age Old Problem Introibo Ad Altare Deihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11377479441601352059noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-41850233359665543492018-03-03T11:09:09.789-08:002018-03-03T11:09:09.789-08:00Great i was coming to say that. Glad i saw this fi...Great i was coming to say that. Glad i saw this first. The reason seems unimportant. He said we were limited. We areRhea Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11620838589143701693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-90741840157304376122017-11-29T14:48:35.400-08:002017-11-29T14:48:35.400-08:00If there is no proof that such a conditional ordin...If there is no proof that such a conditional ordination took place, there is no presumption that it occurred. A man can be directly ordained to the priesthood without being a deacon first—it's ordination “per saltum” or “by jumping.” However, such is dubious with the episcopacy. A majority of theologians teach consecration of a layman invalid or dubious. The matter has never been settled, and such consecrations must be considered invalid in practice. I don’t know much about his orders, but my advice would be to stay away and alert the clergy to the problem so they can receive orders conditionally and remive all doubt.<br /><br />—-Introibo Introibo Ad Altare Deihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11377479441601352059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-47176222245538248392017-11-29T14:39:23.260-08:002017-11-29T14:39:23.260-08:00With all of this said,I wonder if conditionally co...With all of this said,I wonder if conditionally consecrating someone automatically included <br />conditional Diaconate/Priesthood?<br />Could it be possible Bishop Thuc just assumed people would realize he did prior to consecrating a Man?<br />I am guessing it's a great possibility,am I wrong?<br />This is very important because the Dattessen line is prominent in Mexico/South America.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-45125106745809448972017-11-26T15:54:52.725-08:002017-11-26T15:54:52.725-08:00That's what I was thinking because he wouldn&#...That's what I was thinking because he wouldn't even be in the Diaconate.<br />I've read about Saints in the Diaconate being consecrated pre-500 AD but being an old Catholic "priest" & then being consecrated without conditional ordination is one big waste of time.<br />It's a shame they didn't take 2 days for conditional Diaconate & Priesthood conditional Ordination.<br />Thank you God bless you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-9463464030314022202017-11-26T14:16:42.847-08:002017-11-26T14:16:42.847-08:00If his ordaining bishop was doubtful and Abp Thuc ...If his ordaining bishop was doubtful and Abp Thuc consecrated him w/o conditional ordination, then he must be treated as a mere layman. Whether of not a layman can be a validly consecrated bishop w/o first obtaining the priesthood was never settled. The majority of the approved pre-V2 theologians taught that a layman could NOT be consecrated a bishop. This would make any “bishop” thus consecrated dubious at best.<br /><br />—-Introibo Introibo Ad Altare Deihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11377479441601352059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-34021971290021820402017-11-26T13:52:33.465-08:002017-11-26T13:52:33.465-08:00Speaking of problems,would
Bp.Datessen be conside...Speaking of problems,would <br />Bp.Datessen be considered valid<br />if he wasn't conditionally ordained yet conditionally consecrated by Bp.Thuc?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-90213010873800900772017-11-02T21:17:57.378-07:002017-11-02T21:17:57.378-07:00Thanks for the information, Frank!
God Bless,
— ...Thanks for the information, Frank!<br /><br />God Bless,<br /><br />— -Introibo Introibo Ad Altare Deihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11377479441601352059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-51365523494599513662017-11-02T21:16:48.724-07:002017-11-02T21:16:48.724-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Introibo Ad Altare Deihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11377479441601352059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-28537959143300806212017-11-02T19:29:26.727-07:002017-11-02T19:29:26.727-07:00I believe the decline in longevity began after the...I believe the decline in longevity began after the Great Flood. This is clearly shown in a diagram from Walter Brown's book "In the Beginning, Compelling Evidence for Creation and the Flood." http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/FAQ234.html#wp10387268<br /> He writes that it is indeed increased radioactivity that is the culprit, caused by flood-related electrical stresses in the earth's crust. This is one of the greatest books I have ever read. <br /> Frank Regahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16899023221249548349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-57612943510364580632017-11-01T19:53:55.006-07:002017-11-01T19:53:55.006-07:00It is frightening and a good topic for a future po...It is frightening and a good topic for a future post! Thanks for commenting my friend!<br /><br />God bless,<br /><br />— Introibo Introibo Ad Altare Deihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11377479441601352059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-67096877828718040722017-11-01T19:46:21.221-07:002017-11-01T19:46:21.221-07:00You should provide an entry on Artificial Intellig...You should provide an entry on Artificial Intelligence,and futuristic smart brains & cities.<br />This topic,in my opinion,the beginning of the End.<br />There are computer programs that now evolve when the switch is set to off and programmers have no idea what it means or how it operates.<br />It's a runaway train that no one can stop.<br />A Robot just received citizenship in Saudi Arabia.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-86215159331161971702017-11-01T03:59:38.231-07:002017-11-01T03:59:38.231-07:00You are correct. However, God always has a reason ...You are correct. However, God always has a reason for the things He does, often hidden from humanity. I offered some possible explanations, but we may never know the precise reason He limited humans’ lives This side of eternity. I should have included those verses, along with commentary from theologian Haydock. <br /><br />Mea culpa,<br /><br />— Introibo Introibo Ad Altare Deihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11377479441601352059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-60744606593767318742017-11-01T03:30:41.221-07:002017-11-01T03:30:41.221-07:00I'm surprised you didn't mention these ver...I'm surprised you didn't mention these verses from Genesis: ‘And after that men began to be multiplied upon the earth, and daughters were born to them. The sons of God seeing the daughters of men, that they were fair, took themselves wives of all which they chose. And God said: My spirit shall not remain in man for ever, because he is flesh, and his days shall be a hundred and twenty years.’<br />Genesis 6:1-3 DRC1752<br />God decided to shorten our days, that is why we now can not live to be 900 years old. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-44068177841030156432017-10-31T17:29:34.350-07:002017-10-31T17:29:34.350-07:00Me EITHER but I have read that before.Me EITHER but I have read that before.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-43361205049678816152017-10-31T10:00:19.420-07:002017-10-31T10:00:19.420-07:00Thanks for the kind words Joann! They keep me writ...Thanks for the kind words Joann! They keep me writing!<br /><br />— Introibo Introibo Ad Altare Deihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11377479441601352059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-45707666799723339692017-10-31T06:01:00.090-07:002017-10-31T06:01:00.090-07:00Very interesting article. I look forward to your ...Very interesting article. I look forward to your posts each week!!<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-7952626329028095132017-10-31T05:16:21.980-07:002017-10-31T05:16:21.980-07:00It might well be. I have no substantial informatio...It might well be. I have no substantial information in that area.<br /><br />— -Introibo Introibo Ad Altare Deihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11377479441601352059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-51344906252320464582017-10-31T04:17:16.861-07:002017-10-31T04:17:16.861-07:00I have read it's highly probable Humans from t...I have read it's highly probable Humans from the <br />pre-Deluge era looked differently than Humans after the Deluge.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-18509163054148393032017-10-30T15:59:28.289-07:002017-10-30T15:59:28.289-07:00George,
I have attempted to show in this post tha...George,<br /> I have attempted to show in this post that science and the Faith do not contradict each other. God is the Source of both! The science aligns perfectly with the teaching of Scripture. In the case of the days of Creation, things are not so clear. First, the word actually used by God through Moses was “yom” which means a period of time, not necessarily a 24 hr day. Second, we have the authoritative decision of the Pontifical Biblical Commission, personally approved by the great Pope St Pius X, Foe of Modernism. Certainly, if the days of Creation were 24 hours, St. Pius X NEVER would have issued that decision. <br /><br />I’m NOT DENYING 24 hour days of Creation. If the Church ever gets a real pope back as David commented above, and he decides the issue, I will immediately submit to his judgement. Until then, I’m inclined to believe the yom is a very long period of time as it best comports with all the available evidence. You might be right, George. I have no Magisterial authority to decide the issue and I’m not a theologian. <br /><br />God bless,<br /><br />— Introibo Introibo Ad Altare Deihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11377479441601352059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-86248759589337984092017-10-30T15:40:23.734-07:002017-10-30T15:40:23.734-07:00I have heard of that claim, but the most recent re...I have heard of that claim, but the most recent research pretty much debunks it. Even if true, the attempt to say one modern year was equal to approximately twelve ancient Hebrew years must fail. That would make Mathuselah about 81 years old at death, but his father would have been about 5 years old when Mathuselah was born! The idea of a much shorter year for the Hebrews is no longer seen as credible by modern scholars.<br /><br />God bless,<br /><br />— Introibo Introibo Ad Altare Deihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11377479441601352059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-68231321589282205832017-10-30T13:46:23.297-07:002017-10-30T13:46:23.297-07:00Introibo,
I agree entirely with your conclusion he...Introibo,<br />I agree entirely with your conclusion here. You are following the plain meaning of the words of Holy Scripture and the common teaching of the Fathers. A Catholic can <i>never</i> go wrong by following this course, in my opinion. For I could not imagine Our Lord ever judging a soul harshly for doing this, or imagine Him saying to a soul about to be judged, “You fool, why did you not believe the godless scientists over the Fathers and Holy Scripture?” On the contrary, he will be rewarded for his fidelity, and he will rejoice to see that his position was true all along. <br />I would only suggest that you apply this way of thinking to the question of the meaning of the “days” of creation. After all, both the consensus of the Fathers and the plain meaning of the words attest to their having been literal 24-hour days. So what’s holding you back? The godless scientists? George R.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-49467028601953391682017-10-30T12:01:45.856-07:002017-10-30T12:01:45.856-07:00Hi Introibo,
Years ago I had a standards book fro...Hi Introibo,<br /><br />Years ago I had a standards book from the early nineteen-hundreds, which stated that the ancient Hebrews considered one moon cycle to be one year. Have you ever heard about it being the way to keep track of time? Thanks and God bless.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-77860436537388559352017-10-30T04:45:51.349-07:002017-10-30T04:45:51.349-07:00I agree David! I can’t wait until real Catholic sc...I agree David! I can’t wait until real Catholic scholars and scientists return one day!<br />— Introibo Introibo Ad Altare Deihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11377479441601352059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-15920373398210903732017-10-30T03:21:07.554-07:002017-10-30T03:21:07.554-07:00Protestant scientists seem to be at the modern for...Protestant scientists seem to be at the modern forefront for debunking a great deal of the anti-biblical junk pushed by the naturalists and their fellow travelers over the last several hundred years. Due to Vatican 2, such research by Catholics seems to be stymied. I have no doubt that when the great Apostacy ends and all the modernist errors are flushed down the toilet by a true pope, a great deal of real “scientific truth” will be published and approved by the Holy See that will corroborate exactly with scripture and tradition.Davidnoreply@blogger.com