tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post5577049396983761718..comments2024-03-28T23:07:29.586-07:00Comments on Introibo Ad Altare Dei: Amazon PrimedIntroibo Ad Altare Deihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11377479441601352059noreply@blogger.comBlogger52125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-10686981468907968422019-10-09T07:46:01.195-07:002019-10-09T07:46:01.195-07:00Joann,
Bergoglio= the most wicked man in the world...Joann,<br />Bergoglio= the most wicked man in the world and false pope<br /><br />—-Introibo Introibo Ad Altare Deihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11377479441601352059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-24614472522868690012019-10-09T07:06:29.200-07:002019-10-09T07:06:29.200-07:00The following is a quote I read from the Synod - u...The following is a quote I read from the Synod - unbelievable!!<br /><br />"The Pope tells it, he had overheard someone making fun of the indigenous people of the forest headdress worn by a man bringing up the gifts at the opening Mass. So he had this to say.<br /><br />Pope Francis: "What is the difference between this headdress, and the biretta used by officials of this dicastery?"<br /><br />And of course that little stab at those wicked, mean-spirited, small-minded, traditional types brought down the house".<br /><br />Anyone who believes Francis is " Pope" after regarding the above is beyond deceived.<br />JoAnnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17204163958901673108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-86260207928081146132019-10-07T13:10:30.483-07:002019-10-07T13:10:30.483-07:00To 9:14
Yes, the Papacy is what makes us Catholic...To 9:14<br /><br />Yes, the Papacy is what makes us Catholic. We all here wholeheartedly believe in the Papacy. We are not protestants. We look forward to the day when we will have a true Pope who will believe and teach the Catholic Faith. A true Pope cannot lead the Church astray, we have Christ's promise for that. Some day God will restore the Church and give us a real Pope. We just have to work on saving our souls in the meantime, and stay away from the evil Vatican 2 heretical church.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-43005015096476167882019-10-07T03:15:44.415-07:002019-10-07T03:15:44.415-07:00@anon9:14
The papacy can (and dies) exist without ...@anon9:14<br />The papacy can (and dies) exist without a live pope on the throne. <br /><br />—-Introibo Introibo Ad Altare Deihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11377479441601352059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-6580877136288080032019-10-06T21:14:59.344-07:002019-10-06T21:14:59.344-07:00Isn't the Papacy what makes the Church Catholi...Isn't the Papacy what makes the Church Catholic, otherwise it would be Protestant? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-51467161874645864142019-10-06T20:44:40.732-07:002019-10-06T20:44:40.732-07:00"How can there be a Catholic Church for 50 yr..."How can there be a Catholic Church for 50 yrs without a Pope?"<br /><br />Who says the Church can't exist for 50 years without a pope? What is your basis for this claim? No pope has ever taught that the Church would expire or vanish somehow if it ever exceeded some duration of time without a pope. This notion is a myth invented by Novus Ordo people, but they have never quoted any theologian who said something like this. In fact, as Introibo quoted above, theologians have said the opposite, namely that some day it is likely the Church will be in great persecution in which it will go for many years without a pope. I believe this was a priest named Fr. Berry who wrote around the year 1900, but it's not an unknown idea at all. What IS an unknown idea, though, is the idea of a pope teaching heresy to the whole Church like Bergoglio is. Now THAT is something that the Church has taught cannot ever happen. But the Church has never denied that an evil impostor pretending to be pope could put on white robes and speak heresy and lie to the world about being pope. In fact, we've had a number of papal impostors over the centuries; actually technically they're called "anti-popes", and Bergoglio is just the most recent specimen.<br /><br />"Without a Pope, there is NO Catholic Church. It is gone."<br /><br />Again, this is an unsupported assertion. Without a pope, the Church continues to exist in the hearts of all faithful Catholics who adhere to the Catholic Faith. The idea that the Church would cease to exist if it went X number of years without a pope is false and a myth made out of thin air.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-57540625975882055452019-10-06T20:33:40.885-07:002019-10-06T20:33:40.885-07:00To the person who started this thread (Anon. Oct. ...To the person who started this thread (Anon. Oct. 1, 2:43 PM):<br /><br />You seem to be a person of good will who is seeking the truth and has questions about the Faith. The questions you are asking are very good questions, but you seem to be discouraged about the state of the world and the Church. First, let me commend you for your earnest seeking of the truth, but encourage you not to despair that the Church no longer exists and we are going into the end of the world. We can address some of your questions here, but an anonymous forum like this is a very imperfect venue to address the serious and complex questions you bring forward.<br /><br />But don't worry! There are numerous traditional Catholic priests out there who would like to discuss these questions with you, and would spend their time generously with you, and would be more knowledgeable than we are here. I urge you to get in touch with either St. Gertrude the Great (sgg.org) or the CMRI organization (CMRI.org) where you will find priests who would be happy to help you with your questions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-13116327916009656432019-10-06T20:22:37.907-07:002019-10-06T20:22:37.907-07:00@anon8:10
I’m sorry for your unfortunate situation...@anon8:10<br />I’m sorry for your unfortunate situation. However, think of the Japanese Catholics who had no access to priest during persecution for very many years. The Church doesn’t stop saving your soul because you can’t get to a priest.<br /><br />1. Join Mass spiritually over the Internet <br /><br />2. Give a Traditionalist priest a stipend to offer Mass for your intentions<br /><br />3. Gain Indulgences<br /><br />4. Read good spiritual books <br /><br />Please read my post:<br />http://introiboadaltaredei2.blogspot.com/2015/12/what-to-do-when-youre-home-alone-but.html?m=1<br /><br />—-Introibo <br />Introibo Ad Altare Deihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11377479441601352059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-85086198670927062962019-10-06T20:10:02.405-07:002019-10-06T20:10:02.405-07:00Introibo, How can you state "all that is nece...Introibo, How can you state "all that is necessary for salvation still goes on". I have no church to attend for hundreds of miles away and cannot receive sacraments as a result. How is the Church saving my soul?<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-58839915267065661422019-10-06T19:50:21.410-07:002019-10-06T19:50:21.410-07:00@anon7:37
According to theologian Dorsch:
he Chur...@anon7:37<br />According to theologian Dorsch:<br /><br />he Church therefore is a society that is essentially monarchical. But this does not prevent the Church, for a short time after the death of a pope, OR EVEN FOR MANY YEARS, from remaining deprived of her head. [vel etiam per plures annos capite suo destituta manet]. Her monarchical form also remains intact in this state.…<br />Thus the Church is then indeed a headless body.… Her monarchical form of government remains, though then in a different way — that is, it remains incomplete and to be completed. The ordering of the whole to submission to her Primate is present, even though actual submission is not…<br /><br />For this reason, the See of Rome is rightly said to remain after the person sitting in it has died — for the See of Rome consists essentially in the rights of the Primate.<br /><br />These rights are an essential and necessary element of the Church. With them, moreover, the Primacy then continues, at least morally. The perennial physical presence of the person of the head, however, [perennitas autem physica personis principis] is not so strictly necessary." (de Ecclesia 2:196–7; Emphasis mine)<br /><br />Second, according to theologian Salaverri, instead of being a "primary foundation… without which the Church could not exist," the pope is a "secondary foundation," "ministerial," who exercises his power as someone else’s (Christ’s) representative. (See De Ecclesia 1:448)<br /><br />There Church continues to exist but in “a different way..” This was Church teaching PRIOR to Vatican II. We were de facto without a pope for about 40 years during the Great Western Schism.<br /><br />—-Introibo Introibo Ad Altare Deihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11377479441601352059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-12541898216847824722019-10-06T19:45:54.272-07:002019-10-06T19:45:54.272-07:00@anon5:19
Stay away! So called “past life regressi...@anon5:19<br />Stay away! So called “past life regression” opens one to demonic possession. I would urge you to have NOTHING to do with that person. I would go to a psychiatrist trained in hypno-therapy and has no belief in New Age/occult nonsense. <br /><br />—-Introibo Introibo Ad Altare Deihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11377479441601352059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-30589844294974231042019-10-06T19:37:56.225-07:002019-10-06T19:37:56.225-07:00How can there be a Catholic Church for 50 yrs with...How can there be a Catholic Church for 50 yrs without a Pope? Without a Pope, there is NO Catholic Church. It is gone. Saying the Sedes are preserving the Faith in a headless Church that is broken up into sects is Protestant.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-47591439601276201122019-10-06T17:19:27.095-07:002019-10-06T17:19:27.095-07:00Introibo,
Would it matter what the person believes...Introibo,<br />Would it matter what the person believes who is administering the hypnosis? The person I know believes in "past lives and claims to hynotize people and takes them back to their "past lives". I want hypnosis to give up smoking and I am concerned because this person does "past lives" hypnosis.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-61554008225236785772019-10-06T17:17:47.046-07:002019-10-06T17:17:47.046-07:00Well anon 12:14, duh????? How can their be unity ...Well anon 12:14, duh????? How can their be unity if there is no Pope? That’s the whole point of sedevacantism. Tom A.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13680594973982446985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-46922137603857234052019-10-06T16:50:30.101-07:002019-10-06T16:50:30.101-07:00@anon12:17
According to the Catholic Encyclopedia ...@anon12:17<br />According to the Catholic Encyclopedia (1913):<br />Hypnotism, therefore, is a dangerous, if not a morally detestable, practice. In the process of suggestion the individual alienates his liberty and his reason, handing himself over to the domination of another. Now, no one has any right thus to abdicate the rights of his conscience to renounce the duty towards his personality. It has been objected to this view that there is the same effect in intoxication or in the use of chloroform; but the argument is of no validity. Drunkenness is not justifiable; it is a grave sin against temperance. As for chloroform, it has its precise indications strictly marked. It is only lawfully employed in medicine to make insensible sick people who are about to undergo a surgical operation. Can hypnotism be employed in the same way as chloroform? Has it any social utility, or does it play a humanitarian rôle in any way? Its supporters have vainly endeavored to endow it with practical uses, in order to give it a scientific turn, but in spite of all their efforts, hypnotism remains, not only an idle curiosity, but a dangerous game. <br /><br />This was written over 100 years ago. The principle remains valid: If hypnosis can be conducted safely—like an aesthetic—to help the will overcome smoking, etc., there would be no problem. Other than that it is dangerous to allow anything to affect the intellect and should be avoided. Some Pagan shamen induce an hypnotic state to allow for possession. <br /><br />—-Introibo <br />Introibo Ad Altare Deihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11377479441601352059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-38386356537297302732019-10-06T12:42:00.245-07:002019-10-06T12:42:00.245-07:00The Trads have no unity and the various groups can...The Trads have no unity and the various groups cannot agree on much of anything. If God would send, which I doubt, a True Pope, the various Trads wouldn't agree on the validity of the new Pope. Wake up this is the last days.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-48693311998685260472019-10-06T12:17:05.642-07:002019-10-06T12:17:05.642-07:00Introibo,
What does the Church says regarding hypn...Introibo,<br />What does the Church says regarding hypnosis? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-26063156969506103442019-10-06T12:14:01.131-07:002019-10-06T12:14:01.131-07:00Anon@6:31 - The Trads and even the Sedes can't...Anon@6:31 - The Trads and even the Sedes can't agree on anything. There is no unity. One group refuses communion to another, etc, etc. The Novus Ordo is not the Catholic Church and I doubt very much if the Trads/Sedes who claim to be are either as there is no unity.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-17609111377487904032019-10-06T12:10:31.665-07:002019-10-06T12:10:31.665-07:00Anon @6:43 - God did not create this crisis in the...Anon @6:43 - God did not create this crisis in the Church, man did. The only "Pope" you are going to get next is one worse than Frankie. Don't put the onus on God allowed it so God will fix it. Man did this mess and it is up to man to fix it, but unfortunately that is unrealistic as 50 yrs of Trads fighting has done nothing. We are in the Great Apostacy. Read your Bible as to what transpires after the Great Apostacy.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-72499824242100264292019-10-06T11:21:40.776-07:002019-10-06T11:21:40.776-07:00Nor do they ever consider the argument that is bac...Nor do they ever consider the argument that is backed up by Church teaching and the Magisterium and can be proved. Namely, that if the Novus Ordo and Vatican 2 came from the Church, then the Church has defected. Tom A.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13680594973982446985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-79388667946413303072019-10-06T06:43:17.964-07:002019-10-06T06:43:17.964-07:00The function and operation of the Church is to lea...The function and operation of the Church is to lead people to heaven. It is still performing that function. People are still practicing the Faith, being sanctified by the sacraments and prayer, and dying in sanctifying grace. Furthermore, we still have all the prior teachings of popes and theologians to guide us. The only function the Church doesn't have at the moment is to answer disputes in real time, but as soon as we get another pope, we will have all our current questions and problems resolved. When that will happen will be in God's good time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-9202925245806979192019-10-06T06:31:16.341-07:002019-10-06T06:31:16.341-07:00"By taking the Sede position aren't you s..."By taking the Sede position aren't you stating that the Church has defected?"<br /><br />Um, no. If you think those two ideas are logically equivalent, or that the latter necessarily follows from the former, then it would be up to you to prove that. Novus Ordo people like to say that if sedevacantism were true, the Church has defected, but they never offer any proof for that assertion. I'm not aware of any pope, for example, who ever defined ex cathedra that the Church cannot exist without living people occupying the Chair of Peter or the college of bishops, and who specifically argued that because then the Church would have defected.<br /><br />The whole "if there is no pope/bishops then there is no Church, which is impossible" is nothing more than an ipse dixt, an unsupported assertion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-85686768104794589232019-10-03T03:42:01.989-07:002019-10-03T03:42:01.989-07:00Anon 4:41, Introibo gave you the details but the ...Anon 4:41, Introibo gave you the details but the short response to you concern is to simply say, “If the Novus Ordo Church is the Catholic Church, then the Church has defected.” So one is left with the task of determining what the Church actually means by “indefectible.” Tom A.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13680594973982446985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-76946700269471168432019-10-02T18:36:21.438-07:002019-10-02T18:36:21.438-07:00Since the Church cannot give evil or teach error A...Since the Church cannot give evil or teach error AND since the Church can never do so; I must conclude that (external appearances to the contrary) THEY DID NOT COME FROM THE CHURCH BUT FROM HERETICS WHO LOST THE PONTIFICATE.<br /><br />But could a period of sedevacante last over 60 years? Yes. According to theologian Dorsch:<br /><br />he Church therefore is a society that is essentially monarchical. But this does not prevent the Church, for a short time after the death of a pope, OR EVEN FOR MANY YEARS, from remaining deprived of her head. [vel etiam per plures annos capite suo destituta manet]. Her monarchical form also remains intact in this state.…<br />Thus the Church is then indeed a headless body.… Her monarchical form of government remains, though then in a different way — that is, it remains incomplete and to be completed. The ordering of the whole to submission to her Primate is present, even though actual submission is not…<br /><br />For this reason, the See of Rome is rightly said to remain after the person sitting in it has died — for the See of Rome consists essentially in the rights of the Primate.<br /><br />These rights are an essential and necessary element of the Church. With them, moreover, the Primacy then continues, at least morally. The perennial physical presence of the person of the head, however, [perennitas autem physica personis principis] is not so strictly necessary." (de Ecclesia 2:196–7; Emphasis mine)<br /><br /> Second, according to theologian Salaverri, instead of being a "primary foundation… without which the Church could not exist," the pope is a "secondary foundation," "ministerial," who exercises his power as someone else’s (Christ’s) representative. (See De Ecclesia 1:448)<br /><br />Far from denying Indefectibility,sedevacantism PRESERVES IT.<br /><br />God Bless,<br /><br />---IntroiboIntroibo Ad Altare Deihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11377479441601352059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-7155780781930063532019-10-02T18:31:05.322-07:002019-10-02T18:31:05.322-07:00Proof:
St Robert Bellarmine (1610)
"A pope wh...Proof:<br />St Robert Bellarmine (1610)<br />"A pope who is a manifest heretic (per se) ceases to be pope and head, just as he ceases automatically to be a Christian and a member of the Church. Wherefore, he can be judged and punished by the Church. This is the teaching of all the ancient Fathers who teach that manifest heretics immediately lose all jurisdiction."De Romano Pontifice. II.30.<br /><br />St Alphonsus Liguori (1787)<br />"If ever a pope, as a private person, should fall into heresy, he would at once fall from the pontificate."Oeuvres Completes. 9:232.<br /><br />Serapius Iragui (1959)<br />...theologians commonly concede that the Roman Pontiff, if he should fall into manifest heresy, would no longer be a member of the Church, and therefore could neither be called its visible head."Manuale Theologiae Dogmaticae." Madrid: Ediciones Studium 1959. 371.<br /><br />I could go on and on, but hopefully you see my point: It is Church teaching that sedevacantism can occur, not some kooky conspiracy theory, not some bad theology made up by sedevacantists ex post facto. Even a pope decreed:<br /><br />Pope Paul IV (1559)<br /><br /><br />"Further, if ever that it should appear that any bishop (even one acting as an archbishop, patriarch or primate), or a cardinal of the Roman Church, or a legate (as mentioned above), or even the Roman Pontiff (whether prior to his promotion to cardinal, or prior to his election as Roman Pontiff), has beforehand deviated from the Catholic faith or fallen into any heresy, We enact, decree, determine and define:- Such promotion or election in and of itself, even with the agreement and unanimous consent of all the cardinals, shall be null, legally invalid and void.- It shall not be possible for such a promotion or election to be deemed valid or to be valid, neither through reception of office, consecration, subsequent administration, or possession, nor even through the putative enthronement of a Roman Pontiff himself, together with the veneration and obedience accorded to him by all.-Such promotion or election, shall not through any lapse of time in the foregoing situation, be considered even partially legitimate in any way....- Each and all of the words, as acts, laws, appointments of those so promoted or elected - and indeed, whatsoever flows therefrom - shall be lacking in force, and shall grant no stability and legal power to anyone whatsoever.- Those so promoted or elected, by that very fact and without the need to make any further declaration, shall be deprived of any dignity, position, honour, title, authority, office and power."Bull Cum ex Apostolatus Officio. 16 February 1559.<br /><br />(Continued below)Introibo Ad Altare Deihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11377479441601352059noreply@blogger.com