tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post2801428104225530813..comments2024-03-26T19:23:49.755-07:00Comments on Introibo Ad Altare Dei: Consecrated To The Service Of God And Ordained To Fight Vatican IIIntroibo Ad Altare Deihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11377479441601352059noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-2519107280867971312023-10-08T19:36:13.189-07:002023-10-08T19:36:13.189-07:00the conclavist position is the only one that makes...the conclavist position is the only one that makes sense. <br /><br />sedeprivationism/guerardianism means splitting the office (error to begin with, even in material-formal way, as there cannot be Catholic pope matter with a heretic leader form nor viceversa, just as one cannot absurdly make a rock castle with sand or liquid water) and pretending the leader of a heretical sect "transubstantiates" (error, not only per logic as described earlier, but also doctrinally only Transubstantiation is that of Our Lord, as it is a unique miracle, one and only sacrifice) into the "materialiter" and/or the "formaliter" whenever the guerardians deem it as a rightful thing for the continuation of the Church: meaning, they are popesifters themselves, a soft neogallicanism if you will: "i can disobey the pope if i call him materialiter".<br /><br />meanwhile sede-acephalous types either: <br />a) deny the papacy can ever be restored: and thus deny the prayer of Christ for St Peter to confirm his brethren; which the Church has magisterially ordinarily (Mystici Corporis) and extraordinarily (Vatican Council) taught that it means there shall be a visible Head until the End; b) or, if they believe the Pope needs to be delivered miraculously: they contradict the promise of Christ and the Holy Spirit; the latter which has aided the Church so far to remain a perfect institution to be able to provide itself of a Pope until the End (nonwithstanding any private revelation that is not de fide and therefore can't be used as excuse; as we don't know if this is the End); the same Holy Spirit which has led the Church without Her needing to demand a miracle from God as the exclusive way to elect a Pope: thus postponing indefinitely the duty to do what the Church does and provide Her with a visible Head. (even in the famous election where the Holy Spirit as a dove posed Himself on Pope St Fabian, the elector-bishops in the name of the Church had to confirm it - it was a sign rather than a direct election; and it hasn't been the only way possible, rather the exception to the rule; what makes us presume we are superior enough to expect a sign, if at least we do not put away differences and gather? and if indeed the Pope is proved needed to put away differences, why not to at least attempt to elect? per theologians and canon law, meaning the Holy Spirit through the Magisterium, this power to elect has been granted to the last bishop-emergency-electors on earth, to perhaps combat the further ruin of souls in these terrible, possibly last times- why wait more to take it?).<br /><br />9 years have passed since this post, and since then, no real progress has been made in getting the bishops to even tweet at each other; at best perhaps it does seem there has been a thaw in recognition of each others' sacraments/orders, but it has been in a rather "don't ask, don't tell, just get your sacraments and come back to the chapel soon please" kinda way.<br />I pray to God all this ends soon, with the Church doing as the Church does, staying as a perfect society the way Christ wanted until the end; and that may the honestly decent Catholics be rewarded, as many sinners as possible to be delivered; and for His merciful justice be done.Noucvnthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10753383716873209707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-19323330685123613652016-03-12T19:43:03.028-08:002016-03-12T19:43:03.028-08:00This is an excellent article.I wish more Roman Cat...This is an excellent article.I wish more Roman Catholics thought like you all!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-69829764433055492452014-11-27T23:26:27.306-08:002014-11-27T23:26:27.306-08:00CMRI has since renounced their original leader and...CMRI has since renounced their original leader and do their best to sustain the true catholic faith.I'm not in a city with CMRI but know enough to understand they're sincere.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-75699482467106986202014-11-22T07:48:16.509-08:002014-11-22T07:48:16.509-08:00CMRI being a cult refers to when their original le...CMRI being a cult refers to when their original leader.I think he left CMRI in late 80's, after which he was arrested on drug and financial charges.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-28977498683365103032014-10-13T15:42:36.491-07:002014-10-13T15:42:36.491-07:00As for "Pope" Michael, see my post of 5/...As for "Pope" Michael, see my post of 5/10/13, "Attempting To Replace the Heretical With The Delusional"Introibo Ad Altare Deihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11377479441601352059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-53451460001280430082014-10-10T22:00:33.880-07:002014-10-10T22:00:33.880-07:00This is an excellent idea!!!!!However,I would not ...This is an excellent idea!!!!!However,I would not be above recognizing Pope Michael if he can prove he is validly ordained/consecrated.If the 3 major lines (Thuc, SSPX, SSPV,etc)recognized him,I would too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-51395072715174868122014-06-16T07:59:41.466-07:002014-06-16T07:59:41.466-07:00I would interrested in more details regarding CMRI...I would interrested in more details regarding CMRI as cult. Thank you, I appreciate it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-91515172276796350772014-06-14T02:01:41.609-07:002014-06-14T02:01:41.609-07:00One last point I forgot to mention: if we admit co...One last point I forgot to mention: if we admit communists infiltrated the Church to destroy it, how don't we know there are communist plants within the traditionalists to create "controlled opposition"? Of course Satan and the communists knew there would be a backlash, so why not send some into that camp as well? Then you have control of everything. Generally I don't know if this applies to any specific SSPX characters or the like, as I only know so many of them via what I can read online, but maybe it would explain why Bp. Fellay has been acting so lukewarm or Abp. Lefebvre would waver back and forth if the novus ordo was Catholic or not. The rabbit hole is deep, but the pipeline to God is direct, so I encourage you to pray and to spread a reliance on prayer to solve these problems. Are we not in a MAJOR crisis? Are we acting as such, going to heroic lengths to pray to get it to end, holding all-night prayer vigils and the like? Maybe we just need to give a little more and the solutions will come. I believe we ought to pray for miracles, direct angelic and Divine intervention, and the like. Is that not what the magnitude of the situation we face today demands, or is this just a few "minor problems" we're dealing with? Should we go to more "extremes" out of humility? I've heard that self-mortification such as whipping has been banned, but I did recently pray in the St. Rita that she endured "severe penances and thrice daily bloody scourgings". What length are we willing to go to solve this crisis? I truly believe almost all the traditionalists are of good will and while divisions are necessary, the lack of perceived progress at solving these different problems, in my opinion, is lamentable and something we should oppose with as much effort as our states in life permit.<br /><br />Thank you for your efforts to fulfill your Catholic duty in this difficult time with your blog and so on, and have a faith that moves mountains that we can get past this nonsense and that the Church may be swiftly restored to sanity, or we may hold it out and brace ourselves for the end... whatever God wills!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-9434640349101601622014-06-14T01:49:04.951-07:002014-06-14T01:49:04.951-07:00There are many things to add to your strategy. Why...There are many things to add to your strategy. Why not recruit more people and true priests from the novus ordo? I'm sure some still exist who are true priests (one is here in the local diocese, he's old). Part of the problem is that people *kind of* believe in sedevacantism, but not with a faith that moves mountains. All the pieces of the puzzle aren't put together. There are still lots of unaddressed objections which don't come to light because of the relative obscurity of the traditionalist and sedevacantist groups and positions. With more people comes more challenge and responsibility.<br /><br />"Perhaps we would hasten the day when a pope comes to replace Pius XII" - but what do traditionalists think about "Pope Michael"? The trad. bishops put every obstacle in the way to electing a pope with bishops, putting David Bawden ("pope" Michael - he is now a true bishop as far as I know) in the difficult position of if he and a bunch of laymen should elect a pope. If the novus ordo is not Catholicism, then the Catholic bishops are all that's left and there is no obstacle from a general imperfect council from electing a true pope. Isn't that what you're suggesting, from a sedevacantist standpoint, and which is the only logical way to get a pope from this position? However, the other possibility is sedeprivationism, but then if you believe in this, then you are NOT sedevacantist. In fact, I suggested to a few people who agree that sedevacantism and sedeprivationism are actually schismatic in the future, because sedeprivationism says that if Francis were to reject the heresies he adheres to he would become pope. Would all sedevacantists agree with this? Then, as I mentioned, they're not sedevacantists but sedeprivationists, because other sedevacantists would NOT agree that such a gesture would make Francis pope. And then if that's all we need to get a pope, what are the sedeprivationists doing to make that situation happen? P.S. Would Fr. Cekada (sedevacantist) and Bp. Sanborn (sedeprivationist) split then if they agreed their views are formally schismatic? Or is Fr. Cekada really a sedeprivationist? There are a lot of these sloppy logical considerations and a lot of other scattered voices who are hardly addressed, like johnthebaptist.us and immaculata-one.com, and betrayedcatholics.com, all stay-at-home sedevacantists.<br /><br />You can read this letter from '83 which indicates Abp. Lefebvre was having talks to elect a pope: http://www.scribd.com/doc/77235819/An-Open-Letter-to-Archbishop-Lefebvre-by-Bishop-George-Musey-November-1983<br /><br />^That is from Bp. Bawden, "Pope Michael"'s library on Scribd: http://www.scribd.com/Let%20George%20Do%20it%20Not/documents<br /><br />Why not wait for the traditionalist bishops to elect a pope?: http://www.scribd.com/doc/16249660/Why-Not-Wait-for-the-Traditional-Bishops-to-Elect-a-Pope<br /><br />So, how are we going to get a pope? Couldn't we easily have done this by now? The only thing I don't agree with Bp. Bawden's claim to the papacy is that they held a lay election. Now, sedevacantists should be more clear: are they sedeprivationists (we just need V2 pseudopopes to convert to get a pope), conclavists (seeking to elect a pope), or sedevacantists (there is no way to elect a pope or no way known now). <br /><br />I have not seen one position defended WITH CERTAINTY such that denial of it would be as absurd as denying that 2+2=4. Until such certainty is established through prayer, working together, and study, we will be immersed in the chaos of these warring factions NOT for the glory of God but contrary to it.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-7676121471782462192014-06-14T01:48:39.221-07:002014-06-14T01:48:39.221-07:00This is a great idea! I suggested the same thing b...This is a great idea! I suggested the same thing but it got shot down pretty hard, as in, "IT'S SINFUL TO EVEN SUGGEST DOING SO YOU ARROGANT NON-CATHOLIC", etc. kind of rhetoric<br /><br />BetrayedCatholics.com claims CMRI/SSPV/etc. are all cults and they have the stay-at-home sedevacantist position:<br />http://betrayedcatholics.com/wpcms/articles/a-catholics-course-of-study/for-beginners/cults-pdf-what-every-catholic-needs-to-know-about-cults/<br />(Unfortunately this site appears to be down at the moment of posting this, unless there is a technical problem with my computer)<br /><br />Additionally, we have mud-slingers at thelaypulpit.blogspot.com and pistrinaliturgica.blogspot.com vs. the Sanborn/Cekada group<br /><br />I bet Satan loves all this because it is militarily/strategically "retarded" and makes enemies of the Church laugh at the disordered childishness of those who claim to be the "one true Church". <br /><br />As you may know, the CMRI superior asked to have someone look into if they were a cult and report the findings to their superior, because they didn't think they were one but were getting accusations of being one. It was found that all they were doing fit the definition of a cult exactly and the superior agreed that that was the case and that there was a need for change (excuse me if I've gotten the story wrong a bit, I'm summarizing). Without a pope and with warring "factions", there is plenty of cult-behavior going on and little objectivity. Granted, everyone is under confusion and stress.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com