tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post4458627813109486272..comments2024-03-26T19:23:49.755-07:00Comments on Introibo Ad Altare Dei: The Church Can Supply Jurisdiction But Not Common SenseIntroibo Ad Altare Deihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11377479441601352059noreply@blogger.comBlogger42125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-10046777884131614752022-09-03T20:55:35.051-07:002022-09-03T20:55:35.051-07:00Jack,
That applies during the reign of Antichrist,...Jack,<br />That applies during the reign of Antichrist, not before with a Church that has defected, (which is impossible)<br /><br />---IntroiboIntroibo Ad Altare Deihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11377479441601352059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-68155257049981562492022-09-03T08:07:06.806-07:002022-09-03T08:07:06.806-07:00shall be fed and preserved amid the deserts and so...shall be fed and preserved amid the deserts and solitudes whither it shall retire, as the Scripture says<br /><br />That exactly describes HA-ers and not supplied jurisdiction trads, who are in every city, large and small..Jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10587974601837206250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-28431306050900178072020-10-24T15:13:45.897-07:002020-10-24T15:13:45.897-07:00@anon6:22
Your second position is correct: Antichr...@anon6:22<br />Your second position is correct: Antichrist will build on the work of his precursors to fully complete the abolition.<br /><br />—-Introibo Introibo Ad Altare Deihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11377479441601352059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-54986990626435537082020-10-23T18:22:56.201-07:002020-10-23T18:22:56.201-07:00The commentary on Matthew 24:15 by the Church Fath...The commentary on Matthew 24:15 by the Church Fathers who compiled the Rheims New Testament (the original version, not the Protestant-influenced Haydock version) states that “This abomination of desolation foretold, was first partly fulfilled in diverse profanations of the Temple of Jerusalem, when the sacrifice and service of God was taken away. But specially it shall be fulfilled by Antichrist and his PRECURSORS, when they shall abolish the holy Mass, which is the Sacrifice of Christ's body and blood, and the only sovereign worship due to God in his Church: as St. Hippolytus writeth in these words: The Churches shall lament with great lamentation, because there shall neither oblation be made, nor incense, nor worship grateful to God….”<br /><br />Couldn’t the abolition of the Mass take place prior to Antichrist by his precursors? Or will Antichrist build on the work of his precursors to complete fully the abolition?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-54820053845565678902020-09-20T15:44:20.741-07:002020-09-20T15:44:20.741-07:00Francis,
1. As your citations below attest, the ce...Francis,<br />1. As your citations below attest, the cessation of the Most Holy Sacrifice of the Mass will take place DURING THE REIGN OF THE ANTICHRIST. <br /><br />2. No.<br /><br />3. Because we are not in the reign of the Antichrist. (See theologian Huchede "History of Antichrist" [1884], pg. 25).<br /><br />4. One theory advanced by theologians (such as the aforementioned Huchede, is that the Antichrist--aided by Satan--will be able to successfully hunt down and kill all (or almost all) priests and bishops, and the few remaining alive will be carefully monitored in prison and therefore, unable to offer Mass.<br /><br />---IntroiboIntroibo Ad Altare Deihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11377479441601352059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-1308876795284778272020-09-19T15:28:35.641-07:002020-09-19T15:28:35.641-07:00NOW THE TESTIMONIES OF DOCTORS AND FATHERS OF THE ...NOW THE TESTIMONIES OF DOCTORS AND FATHERS OF THE CHURCH ON THE CESSATION OF THE CONTINUAL SACRIFICE:<br />“The Holy Fathers who have written upon the subject of Antichrist, and of these prophecies of<br />Daniel, without a single exception, as far as I know, and they are the Fathers both of the East and of the West, the Greek and the Latin Church—all of them unanimously,–say that in the latter end of the world, during the reign of Antichrist, the holy sacrifice of the altar will cease.” In the work on the end of the world, ascribed to St. Hippolytus, after a long description of the afflictions of the last days, we read as follows: “The Churches shall lament with a great lamentation, for there shall be offered no more oblation, nor incense, nor worship acceptable to God. The sacred buildings of the churches shall be as hovels; and the precious body and blood of Christ shall not be manifest in those days; the Liturgy shall be extinct; the chanting of psalms shall cease; the reading of Holy Scripture shall be heard no more…” (Card. Edward Manning. THE PRESENT CRISIS OF THE HOLY SEE Burns & Lambert, 1861) P. 79<br /><br />“And this offering which our Lord then made of himself did not limit itself to that moment, but it only then began; it always has continued since, and it will continue forever. It is true it will cease on earth at the time of Antichrist: the Sacrifice of the Mass is to be suspended for twelve hundred and ninety days; that is, for three years six months and a half, according to the prophecy of Daniel: And from the time when the continual sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination unto desolation shall be set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred ninety days? Yet the Sacrifice of Jesus Christ will never cease, since the Son of God will always continue to offer himself to his Father by an eternal sacrifice, for he himself is the priest and the victim, but an eternal<br />Victim and an eternal priest, not according to the order of Aaron, of which the priesthood and the sacrifice were temporary, imperfect, and inadequate to appease the anger of God against rebellious man, but according to the order of Melchisedech, as David predicted : Thou art a priest according to the order of Melchisedech} The priesthood of Jesus Christ will, therefore, be eternal, since, even after the end of the world, he will always continue to offer in heaven this same victim that he once offered on the Cross for the glory of God and for the salvation of mankind…” (St Alphonsus De Liguori, THE HOLY EUCHARIST, Benziger Brothers,1887) p.22<br /><br /><br />“Is it not written that the revolt and separation must come (2 Thess. ii. 3), and that the sacrifice shall cease (Dan.xii. 11), and that the Son of Man shall hardly find faith on earth at his second visible return (Luke xviii. 8), when he will come to judge? Answer:<br />all these passages are understood of the affliction which antichrist will cause in the Church, during the three and a half years that he shall reign mightily ; but in spite of this the Church during even these three years shall not fail, and shall be fed and preserved amid the deserts and solitudes whither it shall retire, as the Scripture says (Apoc. xii.)…”[St Francis De Sales, THE CATHOLIC CONTROVERSY, Burns & Oates, 1909] p.62<br /><br /><br />Thanks for any answer you may give<br />Francis<br />Francishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11731345389611701460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-83002966183085862842020-09-19T15:28:07.000-07:002020-09-19T15:28:07.000-07:00Dear Introibo,
I have carefully read this post and...Dear Introibo,<br />I have carefully read this post and some of your other posts on this topic. Permit me to ask you the following questions:<br /><br />1). Do you believe the testimonies of the following doctors [including St Alphonsus De Liguori whom you quoted above]and the unanimous opinions of the fathers of the early church that the daily sacrifice of the mass will cease on earth for a time some days in life of the church?<br /><br />2).Do you believe that this scriptural prediction could be happening now in this current apostasy?<br /><br />3).Why is it that in all the writings of Sedevacantist traditional Catholic s I had read they never factor this predicted reality in their explanations and forced believe that God will never allow a situation where there will be no mass and valid sacraments because as they say “The primary mission of the Church is the salvation of souls”?<br /><br />4).If you believe this realty is not occurring now as HA maintain because as you said above, that God will operate outside the Laws enacted by the Vicars of Christ that jurisdiction passes from Christ to the church ONLY through the pope, then can you explain to me how it can happen at whatever time you believe it will happen as predicted, that we will have a fulfillment of this prophecy exactly as depicted below by the doctors and fathers of the church? <br /><br />Francishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11731345389611701460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-28511568883224393112016-07-30T20:00:19.049-07:002016-07-30T20:00:19.049-07:00Lol! You're welcome!
---IntroiboLol! You're welcome!<br /><br />---Introibo Introibo Ad Altare Deihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11377479441601352059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-11328735669446017052016-07-29T22:15:51.538-07:002016-07-29T22:15:51.538-07:00Again thanks JoAnn and all.
In response to you na...Again thanks JoAnn and all.<br /><br />In response to you name.<br /><br />ad Deum qui lætificat iuventutem meamAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-32338397910641758672016-07-29T22:07:49.057-07:002016-07-29T22:07:49.057-07:00Thank you JoAnn. Very deeply appreciated.
You all...Thank you JoAnn. Very deeply appreciated. <br />You all have been awesome.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-70505988868302435832016-07-29T17:28:46.880-07:002016-07-29T17:28:46.880-07:00There is a SSPV Chapel in Brooklyn, MD, a suburb o...There is a SSPV Chapel in Brooklyn, MD, a suburb of Baltimore. The SSPV website has the contact info listed. <br /><br /> Introibo - Looking forward to the post on invincible ignorance.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-35522142038402439862016-07-29T16:04:36.231-07:002016-07-29T16:04:36.231-07:00Nor do I Joann. Posts come to me without contact i...Nor do I Joann. Posts come to me without contact info. You can post what you want here, and hope she reads it. BTW, look for the post on invincible ignorance Monday, August 8, 2016.<br /><br />---Introibo Introibo Ad Altare Deihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11377479441601352059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-34544785232937515882016-07-29T15:59:21.473-07:002016-07-29T15:59:21.473-07:00I live in Baltimore and came home to the True Roma...I live in Baltimore and came home to the True Roman Catholic Church 2 yrs. ago. I am a sedevananist and go to confession and to a Latin Mass by a validly ordained Priest. I would be glad to share with anonymous above; however, I do not know how to make contact with them??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-22163736401280315402016-07-24T08:10:07.345-07:002016-07-24T08:10:07.345-07:00I would like to ad a comment if possible.The Thuc ...I would like to ad a comment if possible.The Thuc line is valid.If the person in Baltimore needs any info,Thuc bishops.com explains this very well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-47818955997461376692016-07-23T16:53:32.113-07:002016-07-23T16:53:32.113-07:00My post of November 14, 2013 "Can A Tradition...My post of November 14, 2013 "Can A Traditionalist Attend Mass At SSPX?" It should answer all your questions. <br /><br /> If you read that post, and are still confused, please send me another comment here, and I will be glad to break it down as simply as possible for you! God bless you and guide you as you come to the Truth!<br /><br />---Introibo Introibo Ad Altare Deihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11377479441601352059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-71638234338286318862016-07-23T15:37:59.416-07:002016-07-23T15:37:59.416-07:00I find this all a bit confusing.
What questions ...I find this all a bit confusing. <br /><br />What questions specifically, would I need to ask a Priest serving Latin Rite to know if I found valid place to receive all sacrements?<br /><br />I am desperately searching many years since feeling an irresistible call from G-D.<br /><br />Grew up and confirmed Catholic, I am 58 yrs old and do not recognize the Church.<br /><br />I started several years ago with the Bible scripture. <br />Have been to many Protestant and Catholic services that seem to over exagerate the Love and easy believism. Leaving less enthusiastic then when I arrived.<br /><br />I am just now studying the sedevacantist position and it has renewed some hope.<br /><br />However I find it difficult to accept the stay Home position, unless there is no recourse.<br /><br />If you can help I would be deeply in debt for your kindness.<br /><br />I am in Baltimore, MD and have found one Church serving Latin Rite.<br />Is that enough? What do I ask the Priest? To know I have valid sacraments from them.<br /><br />Thank you and G-D Bless! �� Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-78394819718968792372016-07-09T07:56:19.198-07:002016-07-09T07:56:19.198-07:00Thank you my friend!
---Introibo Thank you my friend!<br /><br />---Introibo Introibo Ad Altare Deihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11377479441601352059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-44096585326510457202016-07-09T07:39:35.642-07:002016-07-09T07:39:35.642-07:00I love how people who hate the true Catholic Churc...I love how people who hate the true Catholic Church never ever bring sound reason,logic, or FACTS to the debate.<br />Sedevacantist's are hated because we cling to the truth.If Jorge Bergoglio were a Catholic Pope,the world would revile him.Instead he is loved and adored by the masses.<br />Jesus Christ stated if they hate me they will hate you.<br />Keep this blog going you are doing good.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-6122518063772002902016-07-08T19:32:55.507-07:002016-07-08T19:32:55.507-07:00Your translation is defective. Go back and read wh...Your translation is defective. Go back and read what was written: "a valid Catholic priest, valid Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, and valid sacraments." This person wants a properly trained and validly ordained CATHOLIC priest who has the true faith, Mass, and Sacraments. Someone who would go outside the Church to receive dubious orders without being properly trained does not meet the requirement of a valid Catholic priest. <br /><br />As far as the teaching on jurisdiction, go back and read what St Alohonsus wrote. It must be wonderful to know more than such an eminent Doctor of the Church! As the title of my post says, the Church can't give anyone common sense---even the obtuse who need it most.<br /><br />---IntroiboIntroibo Ad Altare Deihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11377479441601352059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-32884305554644643272016-07-08T19:20:16.932-07:002016-07-08T19:20:16.932-07:00Now there's intelligence. Translation: I don&#...Now there's intelligence. Translation: I don't care what the Church teaches about jurisdiction and liceity, just give me a Latin mass, even if it's from Jack Smith, the layman who went to Canada and paid an old Catholic to give him ordination. Amen! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-1842336422151595372016-07-08T18:14:51.648-07:002016-07-08T18:14:51.648-07:00At the risk of sounding Protestant, "Amen!&qu...At the risk of sounding Protestant, "Amen!" I'm glad God showed you the way out of there and to where we all belong ---His One True Church!<br /><br />---Introibo Introibo Ad Altare Deihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11377479441601352059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-89918882288052929172016-07-08T16:02:09.361-07:002016-07-08T16:02:09.361-07:00Please give me a valid Catholic priest,valid holy ...Please give me a valid Catholic priest,valid holy sacrifice of the mass,and valid Sacraments any day over the man made,man centered,new age,pagan novus ordo.<br />I left the novus ordo in 2014 not because 'it didn't feel right' but because it is satanic new age heresy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-44801039373324048312016-07-07T20:27:23.172-07:002016-07-07T20:27:23.172-07:00Thank you for the reply, I always appreciate your ...Thank you for the reply, I always appreciate your insight.<br />God bless you too. Middle American Water Tower Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06110115421498014490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-7717544525018450262016-07-07T16:50:12.160-07:002016-07-07T16:50:12.160-07:00"Involved with these sects"? You words s..."Involved with these sects"? You words speak volumes. Are you suggesting that Traditionalists are not True Catholics, but a man-made religion like the Vatican 2 sect? <br /><br />Secondly, I know of no one who has become a Traditionalist and left because it "doesn't feel right." For the record, I've been around along time having left the Vatican 2 sect for the True Church in 1981. <br /><br />You claim to have read both sides of the issue. How would you refute what I wrote, specifically with St. Alphonsus?<br /><br />---Introibo Introibo Ad Altare Deihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11377479441601352059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466183320330735196.post-22563879625725691682016-07-07T16:34:56.076-07:002016-07-07T16:34:56.076-07:00I think the stay at home sedevacantists are more t...I think the stay at home sedevacantists are more truthful than the rest. Often when people have been involved with these sects for any length of time they begin to realize something doesn't feel right. I've read all the arguments for both sides and just don't agree with the whole supplied jurisdiction / epikeia arguments. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com