Monday, January 18, 2021

Romanticizing Heresy

 

The post I had originally scheduled for this week has been purposely delayed. I received a comment from a Vatican II sect apologist, Mr. Aaron Debusschere, who recently set up his own blog entitled "The Romantic Catholic." The author was polite and informed me that he had written a rebuttal to one of my past posts on the Vatican II Constitution Gaudium et Spes. He then invited me to respond if I wanted to do so. Never being one to run from a challenge, and always eager to defend the One True Church against all enemies, especially the Vatican II sect, this post is dedicated to showing the faulty premise upon which Mr. Debusschere (hereinafter "Mr. D") attempts to refute me and defend the sect of Bergoglio. For my readers who would like a full background, please read my post on Gaudium et Spes at introiboadaltaredei2.blogspot.com/2020/08/vatican-ii-misery-and-despair.html. Then read the attempted rebuttal at theromanticcatholic.wordpress.com/2021/01/10/contra-sedevacantism.

 I highly recommend doing so, if you have the time, in order to get a fuller appreciation for what follows here. I hope and pray Mr. D is of good will, and as a result of this exchange, he may leave the Vatican II sect and enter the real Catholic Church.

Preliminary Considerations
In my post of August 10, 2020, I stated that Vatican II's "Constitution on the Church in the Modern World" (Gaudium et Spes), was a catalogue of heresies, and I demonstrated four of them: 1. Universalism, 2. The Deification of Humans, 3. Falsifying the Words of Christ to Place Man As God, and 4. False Principles Regarding Marriage and Women. 

Mr. D's defense is the usual fare served up by Vatican II sect apologists; there is nothing wrong with the documents of Vatican II. Traditionalists misinterpret and misrepresent what they really teach which is in perfect harmony with all prior Church teaching. He writes, "...to reject Vatican II would be to cease being Catholic." Quite the opposite is true, acceptance of Vatican II is rejection of Catholicism, which is the precise reason I'm a sedevacantist. His incorrect premise is that documents of his sect are to be "read in context" without reference to the authoritative interpretations of the men he recognizes as "popes."  What his Vatican II sect Magisterium decrees must be considered the true and binding interpretation--period.  

Before attacking the points I made, Mr. D informs us:

That being said, there are others who recognize the necessary result of sedevantism and embrace it, all the while professing to be the truly faithful Catholics and condemning the “Vatican II sect” of the real schism. This still leaves the sedevacantist to answer for the problem of a Church on earth with no Pope (an essential element of the Church) for several decades since most sedevacantists maintain that the Church has had no visible head since the death of Pius XII in 1958.

Actually, there is no problem with the Church being in a prolonged state of sedevacante as both the Church's own approved theologians and history prove. I've written on this point several times, yet since Mr. D makes it an alleged "weak spot" for sedevacantism, it's worth reaffirming both the teaching and history.

According to theologian Dorsch, "The Church therefore is a society that is essentially monarchical. But this does not prevent the Church, for a short time after the death of a pope, OR EVEN FOR MANY YEARS, from remaining deprived of her head. [vel etiam per plures annos capite suo destituta manet]. Her monarchical form also remains intact in this state.…
Thus the Church is then indeed a headless body.… Her monarchical form of government remains, though then in a different way — that is, it remains incomplete and to be completed. The ordering of the whole to submission to her Primate is present, even though actual submission is not…

For this reason, the See of Rome is rightly said to remain after the person sitting in it has died — for the See of Rome consists essentially in the rights of the Primate.

These rights are an essential and necessary element of the Church. With them, moreover, the Primacy then continues, at least morally. The perennial physical presence of the person of the head, however, [perennitas autem physica personis principis] is not so strictly necessary." (de Ecclesia 2:196–7; Emphasis mine). 

Therefore, the Church can remain for many years deprived of a pope, and the form of government remains "then in a different way." Moreover, there was a historical situation in the Church for 51 years called The Great Western Schism. From 1378 until 1429, when Pope Martin V became the universally recognized pontiff, there were up to three claimants to the papal throne, all with arguments for their legitimacy. Only one (or possibly none) could have been the true pope.

As theologian Van Noort teaches, "[During the Great Western Schism]...hierarchical unity was only materially, not formally, interrupted.  Although Catholics were split three ways in their allegiance because of the doubt as to which of the [papal] contenders had been legitimately elected, still all were agreed in believing that allegiance was owed to one legitimate successor of Peter, and they stood willing to give that allegiance." (See Dogmatic Theology [1956] 2:131; First Emphasis in original, second emphasis mine). So too, Traditionalists stand "willing to give that allegiance" when there is a true pope. 

The real nail in the coffin was delivered by theologian Fr. Edmund James O'Reilly, one of the most orthodox and erudite theologians of the 19th century. He wrote a book in 1882 (a scant twelve years after the Vatican Council), entitled The Relations of the Church to Society — Theological Essays. On page 287, he writes in reference to the Great Western Schism:

There had been anti-popes before from time to time, but never for such a continuance... nor ever with such a following...
The great schism of the West suggests to me a reflection which I take the liberty of expressing here. If this schism had not occurred, the hypothesis of such a thing happening would appear to many chimerical. They would say it could not be; God would not permit the Church to come into so unhappy a situation. Heresies might spring up and spread and last painfully long, through the fault and to the perdition of their authors and abettors, to the great distress too of the faithful, increased by actual persecution in many places where the heretics were dominant. But that the true Church should remain between thirty and forty years without a thoroughly ascertained Head, and representative of Christ on earth, this would not be. 

Yet it has been; and we have no guarantee that it will not be again, though we may fervently hope otherwise. What I would infer is, that we must not be too ready to pronounce on what God may permit. We know with absolute certainty that He will fulfill His promises; not allow anything to occur at variance with them; that He will sustain His Church and enable her to triumph over all enemies and difficulties; that He will give to each of the faithful those graces which are needed for each one’s service of Him and attainment of salvation, as He did during the great schism we have been considering, and in all the sufferings and trials which the Church has passed through from the beginning. 

We may also trust He will do a great deal more than what He has bound Himself to by His promises. We may look forward with a cheering probability to exemption for the future from some of the troubles and misfortunes that have befallen in the past. But we, or our successors in future generations of Christians, shall perhaps see stranger evils than have yet been experienced, even before the immediate approach of that great winding up of all things on earth that will precede the day of judgment. I am not setting up for a prophet, nor pretending to see unhappy wonders, of which I have no knowledge whatever. All I mean to convey is that contingencies regarding the Church, not excluded by the Divine promises, cannot be regarded as practically impossible, just because they would be terrible and distressing in a very high degree. (Emphasis mine).

 The following points are made unmistakably clear:
  • The Vatican Council's 1870 decree on the papacy has been misconstrued. The institution of the papacy is perpetual; there is no need nor guarantee of actual men to fill that See at every point in time.
  • The Great Western Schism sets historical precedent for a de facto interregnum of 51 years, since no one knew which papal claimant was pope, and there was a real possibility that none of the claimants was Vicar of Christ. 
  • The teaching of the theologians clearly shows a vacancy of the Holy See lasting for an extended period of time. Such a vacancy cannot be pronounced to be incompatible with the promises of Christ as to the Indefectibility of the Church.  Therefore, all Four Marks, including Apostolicity and everything else the Church requires, continue of necessity, even if we may not know the exact answers in any given situation. The Magisterium would not allow theologians to teach a hypothetical situation as a real possibility, if that would somehow be incompatible with the dogma of Indefectibility and the promises of Christ. 
  • It is also taught by the theologians that it would be exceedingly rash to set any prejudged limits as to what God will be prepared to allow to happen to the Holy See, except for that which would be contrary to Divine Law (such as a "heretical pope"--an oxymoron)
Having shown Mr. D's argument against sedevacantism in general to be without merit, I will turn to his arguments against my claims of heresy in Gaudium et Spes; but I must point out a fatal flaw in his reasoning. He implicitly rejects the ability of the Magisterium to render a correct and binding interpretation of Vatican II's documents thereby using private interpretation. Ironically, this charge is usually (and falsely) leveled against sedevacantists. Here is what he writes:

While his arguments were at best grasping at straws [not by a long shot], they may cause some of his readers to doubt the teachings of Vatican II [and reject them, I hope] while providing further support for those who already hold some form of opposition or malice toward the [pseudo-] Council and the [pseudo-] Magisterium; as such, I thought it may be worthwhile to provide a response both in defense of what the document actually says and what the Church actually teaches. I will, therefore, present here briefly the arguments made by Introibo followed by a more accurate reading of the text.

Who will give us the "more accurate reading of the text"?  How about "Pope" "St." John Paul II? According to theologian Salaverri:

"We say in the thesis that an internal and religious assent of the mind is due to the doctrinal decrees of the Holy See, either formally published by the Supreme Pontiff or approved in the specific form by him, although they do not reach the grade of infallibility;..."(See Sacrae Theologiae Summa IB, [1955], pg. 245; Emphasis in original). On the next page, Salaverri cites to the great encyclical of His Holiness Pope Pius XII, Humani Generis: "Nor must it be thought that what is expounded in Encyclical Letters does not of itself demand consent, since in writing such Letters the Popes do not exercise the supreme power of their Teaching Authority. For these matters are taught with the ordinary teaching authority, of which it is true to say: "He who heareth you, heareth me"; and generally what is expounded and inculcated in Encyclical Letters already for other reasons appertains to Catholic doctrine. But if the Supreme Pontiffs in their official documents purposely pass judgment on a matter up to that time under dispute, it is obvious that that matter, according to the mind and will of the Pontiffs, cannot be any longer considered a question open to discussion among theologians." (para. #20; Emphasis mine). 

With this in mind, let's examine each of his attempted defenses against the charges of heresy in Gaudium et Spes ("GS"). Please note that once you see why the defense against the charge of Universalism fails, the rest fall pretty quickly. 

Attempted Defense Against The Charge of Universalism
In GS para. #22 we read, For by His incarnation the Son of God has united Himself in some fashion with every man. I explained that if every man is united with Christ he cannot be damned. 

Wojtyla, a man Mr. D recognizes as both a pope and saint, taught in Redemptor Hominis (1979), para. #13: Christ the Lord indicated this way especially, when, as the Council teaches, "by his Incarnation, he, the Son of God, in a certain way united himself with each man"(Emphasis in original). Continuing in the same encyclical, Wojtyla writes, Accordingly, what is in question here is man in all his truth, in his full magnitude. We are not dealing with the "abstract" man, but the real, "concrete", "historical" man. We are dealing with "each" man, for each one is included in the mystery of the Redemption and with each one Christ has united himself forever through this mystery. (Emphasis mine). 

Mr. D tells us that by reading the context of GS, "It is clear that the fashion in which the Son of God united Himself with every man is by taking on human nature..." and "The union present by GS is that of a common human nature; he is consubstantial with each man in His manhood." Is this what Wojtyla is teaching? In a word: No. The background of Karol Wojtyla is in order. He is John Paul the Great Apostate because he does not have the Faith.

According to theologian Tanquerey, Faith is "the supernatural assent by which the intellect, under the command of the will and the influence of grace, firmly accepts revealed truths because of the authority of God Who is revealing." (See Dogmatic Theology 1:193). John Paul II sees Faith as "an experiential state." Speaking to a group of clerics, Wojtyla said, "To enter into dialogue with God means to allow oneself to be won over and conquered by the luminous figure of the Revealed Jesus, and by the love of the Father Who sent Him. It is in precisely this that the faith consists. In faith, man interiorly enlightened and attracted by God, goes beyond the limits of purely natural knowledge, and experiences God in a manner that would otherwise be impossible." As you can see, Wojtyla is a good Modernist who reduces "faith" from an act of the intellect to feelings and experiences. This is reflected in the Novus Bogus "mass" where human entertainment, feeling good about yourself, and the elimination of anything deemed "negative theology" (like sin and Hell) reign supreme. 

Wojtyla was a close friend of arch-Modernist Fr. Karl Rahner, whose teaching on the "anonymous Christian" was tantamount to universal salvation. Rahner was censured by Pope Pius XII, rehabilitated by Montini (Paul VI), and had a friend in Wojtyla who was greatly influenced by him. Wojtyla was also influenced by Fr. Teilhard de Chardin, who was a censured pantheist/evolutionist and died in 1955. The heretical Vatican II document Gaudium et Spes (The Constitution of the Church in the Modern World) had Wojtyla, Cardinal Montini ( the future Paul VI), Cardinal Suenens, and Cardinal Lecaro as the chief architects. All were Modernists to the core. Gaudium et Spes along with Lumen Gentium (Constitution on the Church), set the foundation for the new religion--the Vatican II sect.

Lumen Gentium set up a false dichotomy between "the Church of Christ" and the Roman Catholic Church. In reality, they are identical, but this document of Vatican II falsely teaches that they are distinct. According to this Modernist document, the Church of Christ "subsists" in its fullness in the Catholic Church, but also subsists elsewhere in false sects according to how many "elements' they have. To have all the elements is best, but to have just some is equally good and leads to salvation. As I wrote in my post, now under fire by Mr. D, Gaudium et Spes teaches one of the trademark heresies of the Vatican II sect; the idea that by His Incarnation, Christ united himself with each man.  Vatican II speaks of a union between Christ and each man that results from the incarnation itself.  Wojtyla has taken this heresy and run with it full speed ahead to its logical consequence - universal salvation in a "church" that subsists everywhere. 

Wojtya rejects Thomism for phenomenology and personalism. (See "The Phenomenology of Karol Wojtyla. On the Problem of the Phenomenological Foundation of Anthropology," in: Philosophy and Phenomenological Research, Vol. 42 (1982), pp. 326-334 by Hans Kochler). As I stated, he admired heretic Teilhard de Chardin (1881-1955). On May 12, 1981, on the occasion of the centennial of the birth of the monistic-pantheistic Jesuit, Teilhard de Chardin, the Secretariat of State sent "in the name of the Holy Father" a highly laudatory and favorable letter to the rector of the Institut Catholique of Paris. In this message the "pope" praises "the wonderful repercussions of his [Teilhard's] research and investigations as well as the marked influence of his personality and the richness of his thought." (See L'Osservatore Romano, June 10, 1981). "Richness of his thought"? 

Teilhard's philosophy transformed the universe from a place in which we exist to a place that, through evolution, exists with us. Evolution, for Teilhard, is the hermeneutic key for understanding the place of Christ within the vast cosmos. Teilhard saw everything moving towards perfection—which he called the Omega Point—as a movement toward God that was simultaneously physical and spiritual. He called the transformation divinization, and saw humanity as currently passing through an evolutionary-spiritual dimension he termed the Noosphere, so that we can enter the final stages of the Pneumatosphere and become one with God. It's basically pantheism with evolution thrown in the mix. 

Here's what Wojtyla said about the Eucharist: When I think of the Eucharist, and look at my life as a priest, as a Bishop and as the Successor of Peter, I naturally recall the many times and places in which I was able to celebrate it. I remember the parish church of Niegowic, where I had my first pastoral assignment, the collegiate church of Saint Florian in Krakow, Wawel Cathedral, Saint Peter's Basilica and so many basilicas and churches in Rome and throughout the world. I have been able to celebrate Holy Mass in chapels built along mountain paths, on lakeshores and seacoasts; I have celebrated it on altars built in stadiums and in city squares... This varied scenario of celebrations of the Eucharist has given me a powerful experience of its universal and, so to speak, cosmic character. Yes, cosmic! Because even when it is celebrated on the humble altar of a country church, the Eucharist is always in some way celebrated on the altar of the world. It unites heaven and earth. It embraces and permeates all creation. (See Ecclesia Eucharistica, 2003, para. #8; Emphasis mine). The Eucharistic Christ "permeates" all creation? Here's what the Vatican Council of 1870 infallibly declared:

CANON III. If anyone says that the substance or essence of God and that of all things are one and the same: let him be anathema.

CANON IV.  If anyone says that finite things, both corporal and spiritual, or at any rate, spiritual, emanated from the divine substance; or that the divine essence, by the manifestation and evolution of itself becomes all things or, finally, that God is a universal or indefinite being which by self determination establishes the totality of things distinct in genera, species and individuals: let him be anathema.

This teaching of Wojtyla is definitely not the divinization taught by the Church Fathers. Now, here is his teaching in Dominum et Vivificantem (1986):

The Incarnation of God the Son signifies the taking up into unity with God not only of human nature, but in this human nature, in a sense, of everything that is "flesh": the whole of humanity, the entire visible and material world. The Incarnation, then, also has a cosmic significance, a cosmic dimension. The "first-born of all creation," becoming incarnate in the individual humanity of Christ, unites himself in some way with the entire reality of man, which is also "flesh" and in this reality with all "flesh," with the whole of creation. (para. #50; Emphasis mine). 

This is clearly Teilhardian "cosmic pantheism." Can anyone think Wojtyla is teaching Christ is not really "united with every man" so as to effectuate Universal salvation? Does this sound like "It is clear that the fashion in which the Son of God united Himself with every man is by taking on human nature"? 

In his 1977 book, written by him in Italian, Segno di Contraddizione,("Sign of Contradiction") "Cardinal" Wojtyla states, "Tutti gli uomini, fin dall'inizio del mondo e fino alla sua fine, sono stat redenti e giustificati da Cristo e dalla sua Croce."  Translation: "All men, from the beginning of the world and until its end, have been redeemed and justified by Christ and his Cross." (pg. 90) If we are justified we are in the state of sanctifying grace, and thereby saved if we die in that state. "All men" means "all humans" whether or not baptized and whether or not they are even in good faith. The German edition also contains this exact phrase. The English edition deletes the heretical words "and justified." All three were published simultaneously and I have access to all three editions. Since Wojtyla wrote the original text of the Italian manuscript, and the German and English editions were put out by translators, Wojtyla penned the heresy. It is affirmed in German, and I must consider the English translation (pg. 87) to an error of the translators. Never was a correction put out by the Vatican or Wojtyla, who became "pope" one year later. Are we still to believe he's not teaching Universalism? 

   In his speech at the first Interfaith Assisi abomination on October 27, 1986, Wojtyla said:

Religious differences reveal themselves as pertaining to another order. If the order of unity is divine, the religious differences are a human doing and must be overcome in the process towards the realization of the grandiose design of unity which presides over creation. It is possible that men not be conscious of their radical unity of origin and of their insertion in the very same divine plan. But despite such divisions, they are included in the grand and single design of God in Jesus Christ, who united himself in a certain way with every man (Gaudium et Spes, 22) even if he is not conscious of it.

Still think he's teaching that "It is clear that the fashion in which the Son of God united Himself with every man is by taking on human nature"?  Mr. D? Anyone? 

Let me spell it out for you: All men belong to a pantheistic Christ who is united to each man, whether he knows it or not, by virtue of his Incarnation. That is rank heresy. Moreover, it cannot be defended by citing to the text of GS, because the pope is protected by the Holy Ghost from teaching error, and not just in ex cathedra declarations. So if Wojtyla is your pope, then GS teaches Universalism. 

As Pope St. Pius X teaches about Modernists:
Though they express astonishment themselves, no one can justly be surprised that We number such men among the enemies of the Church, if, leaving out of consideration the internal disposition of soul, of which God alone is the judge, he is acquainted with their tenets, their manner of speech, their conduct. (See Pascendi Dominici Gregis, para. #3; Emphasis mine). Heresy consists in dictis vel factis — not only in words, but also in “signs, deeds, and the omission of deeds.” (See theologian Merkelbach, Summa Theologiae Moralis, 1:746.). Not only does Wojtyla use the same language as heretics, but his actions belie his heresy as well. He believes that all religions are more or less good and lead to Heaven according to the damnable and heretical Vatican II ecclesiology whereby the Church of Christ "subsists" in false religions. That's why he:
  • kissed the blasphemous and evil Koran
  • participated in all forms of non-Catholic worship (Protestants, Jews, and Hindus, to name but three)
  • said that Moslems and Catholics worship the same God in a speech to the Moslems in Paris, May 31, 1980
And all of this was ratified, so to speak, by Bergoglio who openly and unapologetically stated, "I believe in God - not in a Catholic God; there is no Catholic God. There is God, and I believe in Jesus Christ, his incarnation. Jesus is my teacher and my pastor, but God, the Father, Abba, is the light and the Creator. This is my Being." (See brainyquote.com/quotes/pope_francis_571226; Emphasis mine). 

Attempted Defense Against the Charge of the Deification of Humans
Given the foregoing, can anyone sincerely doubt that in para. #12, when GS teaches,  According to the almost unanimous opinion of believers and unbelievers alike, all things on earth should be related to man as their center and crown, it is deifying Man, and in the heretical Teilhardian-pantheistic sense? 

Rather than address Mr. D's contention that What is made clear in paragraph 12 is that man is indeed the “center and crown of all things on earth.” Man is created in the image and likeness of God, which has a threefold meaning: (1) he is a rational being capable of knowing and loving, (2) he is a social being created as male and female, and (3) he has dominion over the earth, I will defer to an authoritative source for members of the Vatican II sect: Herr Ratzinger. Before he became "pope" he was head of the "Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (sic)," the former Holy Office, and was charged with defending the "faith" from heresy. What did he say regarding GS?

 If it is desirable to offer a diagnosis of the text [Gaudium et Spes] as a whole, we might say that (in conjunction with the texts on religious liberty and world religions) it is a revision of the Syllabus of Pius IX, a kind of countersyllabus. Harnack, as we know, interpreted the Syllabus of Pius IX as nothing less than a declaration of war against his generation.  This is correct insofar as the Syllabus established a line of demarcation against the determining forces of the nineteenth century: against the scientific and political world view of liberalism.  In the struggle against modernism this twofold delimitation was ratified and strengthened.  Since then many things have changed.  The new ecclesiastical policy of Pius XI produced a certain openness toward the liberal understanding of the state.  In a quiet but persistent struggle, exegesis and Church history adopted more and more the postulates of liberal science, and liberalism, too, was obliged to undergo many significant changes in the great political upheavals of the twentieth century.  As a result, the one-sidedness of the position adopted by the Church under Pius IX and Pius X in response to the situation created by the new phase of history inaugurated by the French Revolution was to a large extent, corrected via facti, especially in Central Europe, but there was still no statement of the relationship that would exist between the Church and the world that had come into existence after 1789.  In fact, an attitude that was largely prerevolutionary continued to exist in countries with strong Catholic majorities.  Hardly anyone today will deny that the Spanish and Italian Concordats strove to preserve too much of a view that no longer corresponded with the facts.  Hardly anyone today will deny that, in the field of education and with respect to the historico-critical method in modern science, anachronisms existed that corresponded closely to this adherence to an obsolete Church-state relationship.  Only a careful investigation of the different ways in which acceptance of the new era was accomplished in various parts of the Church could unravel the complicated network of causes that formed the background of the "Pastoral Constitution", and only thus can the dramatic history of its influence be brought to light.

   Let us be content to say that the text serves as a countersyllabus and, as such, represents, on the part of the Church, an attempt at an official reconciliation with the new era inaugurated in 1789.

(See "Cardinal" Joseph Ratzinger, Principles of Catholic Theology,  [1987] pgs. 381-382; Emphasis mine).  What was the "new era" of 1789? The French Revolution with its Masonic motto of "Liberty, Equality, Fraternity." There is nothing wrong with the correct understanding of those terms, but they are perverted by what Pope Leo XIII called "...the kingdom of Satan, in whose possession and control are all whosoever follow the fatal example of their leader and of our first parents, those who refuse to obey the divine and eternal law, and who have many aims of their own in contempt of God, and many aims also against God." Masonry exalts Man, degrades God and seeks to eliminate Him from the minds of all humans. 

Let's take GS #12 in context with the teaching of Ratzinger (never censured or condemned by Wojtyla) and see how it really is a "counter-syllabus" of Errors:

On Equality:

GS, Ch. II, para. 29: Nevertheless, with respect to the fundamental rights of the person, every type of discrimination, whether social or cultural, whether based on sex, race, color, social condition, language or religion, is to be overcome and eradicated as contrary to God's intent. (Emphasis mine)

The True Religion cannot be given preference over false sects. That would be "discrimination." 

On Liberty:

GS, Ch. I, para. 21: Hence the Church protests against the distinction which some state authorities make between believers and unbelievers, with prejudice to the fundamental rights of the human person.(Emphasis mine).
What "fundamental rights of the person" prevents the State from making distinctions between those who profess the Truth, and those who are partisans of error?

On Fraternity:

GS, Ch. V, para. 91: Drawn from the treasures of Church teaching, the proposals of this sacred synod look to the assistance of every man of our time, whether he believes in God, or does not explicitly recognize Him. If adopted, they will promote among men a sharper insight into their full destiny, and thereby lead them to fashion the world more to man's surpassing dignity, to search for a brotherhood which is universal and more deeply rooted, and to meet the urgencies of our ages with a gallant and unified effort born of love. (Emphasis mine)

Atheists, agnostics, and members of the Church can "fashion the world more to man's surpassing dignity" and achieve "universal brotherhood" in which God is irrelevant at best. Pure Masonic poison. 

Man is indeed the center and crown as well as the "measure of all things" in this Masonic design. As "Pope" Benedict XVI, he also proved himself as a faithful disciple of Teilhard. He said:

The role of the priesthood is to consecrate the world so that it may become a living host, a liturgy: so that the liturgy may not be something alongside the reality of the world, but that the world itself shall become a living host, a liturgy. This is also the great vision of Teilhard de Chardin: in the end we shall achieve a true cosmic liturgy, where the cosmos becomes a living host. And let us pray the Lord to help us become priests in this sense, to aid in the transformation of the world, in adoration of God, beginning with ourselves. That our lives may speak of God, that our lives may be a true liturgy, an announcement of God, a door through which the distant God may become the present God, and a true giving of ourselves to God. (See http://w2.vatican.va/content/benedict-xvi/en/homilies/2009/documents/hf_ben-xvi_hom_20090724_vespri-aosta.html; Emphasis mine).

For those not familiar with the works of Teilhard, he believed in polygenism, which posits the idea that the human race had different origins, as opposed to a single couple; Adam and Eve. His heretical theory was roundly condemned in the brilliant encyclical Humani Generis of Pope Pius XII, which was drafted by the eminent Dominican theologian Fr. Reginald Garrigou-Lagrange. As the result of his evolutionism and polygenism, he denied not only the First Parents of the human race, but as a necessary consequence, he denied the dogma of Original Sin.  Let's see how the True Church reacted to Teilhard de Chardin:
  • 1926, his Superior forbade him to teach
  • 1933, the Holy See ordered him to give up his subsequent post in Paris
  • 1939, the Holy See banned some of his writings
  • 1947, Rome also forbade him to write or teach on philosophical subjects
  • 1955, his Superiors forbade de Chardin to attend the International Congress on Paleontology. That same year, de Chardin died in New York on Easter Sunday

Even under Roncalli (John XXIII), he was censured posthumously. On June 30, 1962, a Monitum ("warning") was given at Rome by the Holy Office: It is sufficiently clear that the above mentioned works abound in such ambiguities and indeed even serious errors, as to offend Catholic doctrine. For this reason, the most eminent and most reverend Fathers of the Holy Office exhort all Ordinaries as well as Superiors of Religious Institutes, rectors of seminaries and presidents of universities, effectively to protect the minds, particularly of the youth, against the dangers presented by the works of Teilhard de Chardin and his followers. Of course the Monitum of 1962 was a dead letter, which was never enforced, as Teilhard's works spread like wildfire in seminaries and Catholic Universities during the early 1960s. 

Here are some of the results of his ideas:

1. If there is no Original Sin, there is no need of a Redeemer. If there was no Adam, Christ could not be the Second Adam Who died to ransom us from sin. (Sin, in all forms, is downplayed or outright denied). He became Man to help us evolve towards "godhood."

2. The Holy Sacrifice of the Mass is not the unbloody re-presentation throughout time of the Sacrificial death of Christ, since there was no need of it. (Mass becomes a "celebration of the people" who are "evolving towards God" and will become One). 

3. Since everything is evolving, there is no fixed and immutable dogmas or morality (One religion or set of morals is as good as another).

4. Eventually, everyone gets to enjoy happiness--there is no Hell for the wicked (Hell is considered "negative" and outdated theology).

5. In his pantheistic idea, not only humanity, but all of nature is evolving. Hence, there should be reverence for the Earth; Teilhard will sometimes describe Earth as an "altar" upon which humanity and nature are "transubstantiated."

Given that both Masonry and Teilhard deify Man (and not in the orthodox sense of the Church Fathers), and given that Ratzinger was (a) a disciple of Teilhard and (b) interpreted GS as a "counter-syllabus" and "an official reconciliation with the new era inaugurated in 1789"--are we to suppose GS #12 is not
the heretical deification of Man?

Attempted Defense Against the Charge of Falsifying Christ's Words
From GS para. #24: This is why the first and greatest commandment is love of God and of neighbor.
I cited the Gospel of St. Mark :

And there came one of the scribes that had heard them reasoning together, and seeing that he had answered them well, asked him which was the first commandment of all.

And Jesus answered him: The first commandment of all is, Hear, O Israel: the Lord thy God is one God.

And thou shalt love the Lord thy God, with thy whole heart, and with thy whole soul, and with thy whole mind, and with thy whole strength. This is the first commandment.

 And the second is like to it: Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. There is no other commandment greater than these. (St. Mark 12:28-31; Emphasis mine).

The first and greatest Commandment is therefore love of God, and the second is love of neighbor as yourself. This is what Christ said and what the Church always taught until Vatican II.  To place these two Commandments on equal footing is to equate God and Man, or to (once more) deify humans.

Mr. D counters that One may also notice that GS has presented the twofold commandment in much the same way as [the Gospel of St.] Luke, presenting it as one commandment, though with love of God before love of neighbor. If this were an orthodox document, like those of Pope Pius XII, one could very well give it such a favorable interpretation. Yet, since it has been decreed a "counter-syllabus" by Herr Ratzinger and that interpretation given no censure from Wojtyla, it is not a stretch of the imagination that it was to further the heretical deification of Man, and not an imitation of the wording from St. Luke.

Attempted Defense Against the Charge of Giving False Principles Re: Marriage and Women

My two charges against GS in this regard were that it inverts the primary and secondary ends of Matrimony and promotes a false feminism. GS #48 it states  By their very nature, the institution of matrimony itself and conjugal love are ordained for the procreation and education of children, and find in them their ultimate crown.  Mr. D responds that In this case we are not speaking of children as the culmination or crowning achievement of marriage, but a crown or garland placed upon the head of the spouses. Children are the glory of the parents, a glory which can only be attained through the conjugal love of the spouses.

In 1968 when Montini ("Pope" Paul VI) published Humanae Vitae (more or less upholding the Church's condemnation of contraception), entire episcopates immediately refused this condemnation, saying spouses needed “a physical expression of their love.” (See Pastoral Letter of the Bishops of France, 11/8/1968). These episcopates did not hesitate to use GS #51 as the basis of their dissent because it made the two ends of marriage equal. According to Vatican II sect theologian Joseph Selling, a professor of Moral Theology, states In Paragraph 6 of Humanae Vitae, Paul VI rejected the findings of his commission on the grounds that "certain criteria of solutions had emerged which departed from the moral teaching on marriage proposed with constant firmness by the teaching authority of the Church." As a professor of moral theology, I have spent upward of four decades searching for that "constant teaching," only to find that, like many other moral teachings of the church, such as those about usury, slavery, and religious freedom, it has been in a continuous state of evolution. [Teilhard?Also, there was no substantial change in Church teaching in any of those subjects pre-Vatican II.]

Although Gaudium et Spes did not directly address the question of regulating fertility it did:
  • Reduce the status of the teaching on the ends of marriage to a historical reference;
  • Put forth a theological understanding of the sacrament of marriage based on the model of "covenant" (in contrast to the notion of a "contract" in canon law);
  • Present its understanding of marriage to be based upon conjugal love (#49) and separately developed its understanding of the fruitfulness of marriage along the lines of responsible parenthood (#50);
  • Clearly state (#51) that whatever approach would be used to deal with the regulation of fertility needed to be based not upon a biological norm or natural law, but rather upon an understanding of the "human person integrally and adequately considered" (Expensio Modorum, 104).
(See https://www.ncronline.org/news/opinion/overwriting-tradition-humanae-vitae-replaced-real-church-teaching; Emphasis mine). This idea is being taught in Moral Theology courses and without censure or condemnation. Mr. D's own sect's theologians dispute his understanding.

As to the status of women, I stated GS para. #12 teaches, But God did not create man as a solitary, for from the beginning "male and female he created them" (Gen. 1:27). This statement is, once more, deceiving. God did create man and woman, but the citation to Genesis leaves out Genesis 2:18, 23: "And the Lord God said: It is not good for a man to be alone: let us make him a help like unto himself...And Adam said: This now is bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called woman, because she was taken out of man." (Emphasis mine). GS gives the false idea that man and woman were created at the same time, thereby implying strict equality.

Mr. D takes umbrage with what he posits as my analysis of women being indirectly in the image of God while men are directly in God's image. His problem is not from me but from my cited source: theologian Wahl, The Exclusion of Women from Holy Orders, [1959], pgs. 45-55 which is there for all to read and which he conveniently omits in his argument. So if he thinks he understands St. Bonaventure and Church teaching better than an approved pre-Vatican II theologian, I'll simply dismiss it as hubris. 

A Possible Vatican II Sect Objection Anticipated and Refuted
One common objection Vatican II sect apologists will use is the fallacious Appeal to Ambiguity, as I like to call it. It basically runs like this: "GS [or any other Vatican II sect document] is capable of an orthodox interpretation. John Paul II didn't specifically say that all man are united to Christ forever in the Teilhardian manner. It could mean we are united to Christ by His human nature. The deification could be interpreted to be like the Church Fathers. GS is capable of orthodox interpretations so we must assume it to be so and read it as such." 

Even if, ad arguendo, GS was capable of an orthodox interpretation, the very fact that it is open to a heretical understanding is enough for it to stand condemned. The Church cannot (and does not) teach ambiguously in expressing theological truths. Any deliberate ambiguity must be interpreted against the orthodoxy of the one teaching ambiguously. Propositions that are ambiguous or admit of interpretations that are either orthodox or heterodox are deemed "heretical by defect." This is also the case with propositions that are true, but are calculated to omit pertinent truths or terms they ought to include. The following proposition of the Jansenist Pseudo-Synod of Pistoia was condemned:

After the consecration, Christ is truly, really and substantially present beneath the appearances (of bread and wine), and the whole substance of bread and wine has ceased to exist, leaving only the appearances.

In 1794, Pope Pius VI condemned that proposition in the Apostolic Constitution Auctorem Fidei because it entirely omits to make any mention of transubstantiation or the conversion of the entire substance of the bread into the Body, and the whole substance of the wine into the Blood, which the Council of Trent defined as an article of Faith...insofar as, through an unauthorized and suspicious omission of this kind, attention is drawn away both from an article of Faith and from a word consecrated by the Church to safeguard the profession of that article against heresies, and tends, therefore, to result in its being forgotten as if it were merely a scholastic question.


 Conclusion
Aaron Debusschere tells us that The easiest way to clarify the meaning of a text is to take it in context. In the case of Gaudium et Spes, or any Magisterial text, this means reading the sentence in the context of the whole paragraph, the whole chapter, the whole document, and even the whole body of documents...determining whether the meaning of the given text is in continuity with the Scriptures or the Tradition of the Church is always easier when one actually looks at the Scriptures and Tradition as a whole. Actually, the best and only authoritative way to determine the meaning of a Magisterial text is to simply have the Vicar of Christ, Roman Congregations, and the approved theologians tell it to you. What good is having a Teaching Authority (Magisterium) that can't teach? 

Moreover, when we had a real pope and real approved theologians, they wrote and spoke in the clear language of Scholasticism/Neo-Scholasticism. Now we are subjected to gobbledygook wherein there is "cosmic significance," a "cosmic dimension,"  whereby the Eucharistic Christ "permeates all Creation" and "celebrated on the altar of the world."  The real mystery is trying to make heads or tails of what any of this verbiage means--phrases you will never find pre-Vatican II. I have demonstrated:

  • Both the teaching of the approved theologians and Church history prove that an extended vacancy of the Holy See is in no way incompatible with the Indefectibility of the Church and the promises of Christ
  • A member of the Vatican II sect recognizes Roncalli through Bergoglio as true Vicars of Christ. As such, they must give assent to the authoritative pronouncements they make on matters of Catholic doctrine
  • Wojtyla (John Paul II) is an ecumenist and disciple of heretics. It is proven in his words and deeds. He has authoritatively interpreted GS as teaching each human is united with Christ so as to preclude damnation. This goes hand in glove with his equally heretical declaration that by the Cross all men, from the beginning of the world, are both redeemed and justified 
  • Ratzinger is also an ecumenist heretic. He called GS a "counter-syllabus" and "an official reconciliation with the new era inaugurated in 1789" Masonry seeks the deification of humanity in a way contrary to all Church teaching
  • Vatican II sect "bishops" and "theologians" have used GS as proof that the primary and secondary ends of marriage are either inverted or equal according to its text and have used it to justify artificial contraception
  • Pre-Vatican II theologians taught that women are indirectly in the image of God while men are directly in God's image, which is one reason advanced as to why women cannot be validly ordained as priests
The manifest weight of the credible evidence proves Aaron Debusschere's attempted refutation of my arguments to be without merit. Moreover, he must submit to his pope and the interpretations/clarifications he gives. That Vatican II makes some orthodox and orthodox sounding statements is meaningless considering Protestant sects do the same, but that doesn't make a Lutheran document "Catholic." Mr. D ends his post by claiming that I "threw GS, Vatican II, and the Magisterium of the last sixty years out the window, and the fullness of the Truth flew out with them." 

Actually, it is Aaron Debusschere who fails to submit to the teachings of his popes and tries to substitute his own interpretation of GS. It is you who needs to throw out all Church teaching from St. Peter to Pope Pius XII in order to evolve into the pneumatosphere where all will be united to Christ in some cosmic fashion. Welcome to the Vatican II sect, Mr. Debusschere. I hope you will not stay long.

Addendum 2/14/21
Aaron Debusschere published a post on 2/13/21 entitled "To A Simple Man" in which he writes a "letter-response" to this blog's guest-poster who goes by the name A Simple Man. Mr. D doesn't even attempt to answer my post above either because (a) he can't or (b) he didn't understand it. Instead, he claims:
The following week he [yours truly--Introibo] proceeded to respond to my arguments, or at least to my post. It was my hope that we could engage in a rational dialogue over matters of faith, in accordance with the tagline of this blog. What was presented as a response, however, was very little, if any, engagement with my arguments. At best he brought forward more quotes from John Paul II and Benedict XVI to argue that they are universalists, pantheists, or Free Masons[sic], none of which have anything to do with the orthodoxy of an Ecumenical Council (more on this below). At worst, he brushed off my arguments as invalid simply because the Council is not orthodox (an a priori assumption rather than the logical conclusion) or as “hubris” because I disagreed with St. Bonaventure...

In short, his response was rather disappointing and did not engage with my arguments; if this were a submission from one of my students I could hardly give it more than a D, and that only because he convincingly showed Teilhard de Chardin to be a heretic… Since one cannot actually engage in dialogue with one who is unwilling to engage or to seek the truth in a rational manner, I do not see much point in further pursuing critiques of Introibo‘s thought. 

Translation: I can't respond, so I'll pretend YOU are "unwilling to seek the truth in a rational manner." In order to seek truth in a rational manner, one must be rational enough to understand and correctly represent your opponent's position. All he did was a splendid job of presenting a strawman. He claims to be a teacher, so let's hope when he grades his students' papers he actually understands them. As a former science teacher, I wince when I think of a future populated by people taught by the likes of Aaron Debusschere. It's time for me to educate the woefully ignorant educator. I can dispense with him quite easily here; it doesn't require another post.
  • If you are Catholic, the pope can and does bind you to the authoritative interpretation of a text.
1. The pope is the Supreme Teacher of the Faith. He commands both external and internal submission to his judgements, such as in encyclicals, even though not infallible. 

2. Aaron believes Wojtyla (John Paul II) and Ratzinger (Benedict XVI) are true popes.

3. Wojtyla and Ratzinger have taught that GS supports their contentions that "by his Incarnation, he, the Son of God, in a certain way united himself with each man" (which supports the heresy of Universalism) and it is a "counter-Syllabus" going against what was taught prior to Vatican II.

Therefore, Aaron must subscribe to Universalism and cannot claim to have the "better" or "orthodox" interpretation. That's the job of a Magisterium; to teach. Whatever he thinks or claims about "the right way to interpret GS" is irrelevant. He tries to escape this debacle by stating:

 It is for this reason that we cannot take a single quote from John Paul II to interpret the whole of Vatican II; rather, the whole of Tradition is necessary to interpret the one quote from John Paul II.

1. How about an entire passage from a whole book written by Herr Ratzinger, the Pro-Prefect of the "Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith" before becoming "pope" who praised GS precisely because it goes against Tradition?  I guess he didn't understand the correct way to interpret things, like Aaron.

2. It's not one quote, but was repeated in defense of the Assisi abomination of 1986. How are we to interpret communicatio in sacris with the "whole of Tradition"? Maybe one of the African witch doctors can tell us? 
  • If I'm right about Teilhard being a heretic, then..
Wojtyla and Ratzinger who admired him, used his heretical verbiage, praised him, and subscribed to those same ideas would also be heretics. Apparently, Aaron failed "Basic Logic 101." 

  • Ignorance and shoddy scholarship
You shouldn't write on theological matters if you do not understand what constitutes an "approved theologian." 

Frankly, I find it laughable that he would “dismiss it as hubris” when he himself thinks “he understands St. Bonaventure and Church teaching better than an approved pre-Vatican II theologian,” namely Aquinas and Augustine, whose arguments I had presented. He seems to think that “theologian Wahl” is the supreme authority on Church teaching or anthropology; I wonder if he realises [sic] the approval of this “pre-Vatican II theologian” took place in 1991 by Pope St. John Paul II. The work cited by Introibo seems to be the only thing Fr. Wahl ever published: a 69 page dissertation for a licentiate in theology.

Wahl apostatized after Vatican II; he was approved prior to the Council, and JPII had nothing to do with it. Note well that it was a dissertation for a Doctorate in Sacred Theology, not a Licentiate which he already possessed. I can also cite to Wahl just as I can cite to  Tertullian when he was Catholic.   While I don't think theologian Wahl is the "supreme authority," his interpretation is the one developed under true popes as theologians progressed in an orthodox manner. Aaron then writes:

I’ve seen this terminology of “approved theologians” thrown around on Introibo‘s site and, frankly, I find it a rather ambiguous phrase. What do you mean by it exactly? My first assumption would be that it refers to the Doctors of the Church, those who are officially entered into the canon of approved teachers of the faith. 

The book by Fr. Reginald-Maria Schultes OP, De Ecclesia Catholica: Praelectiones Apologeticae [Apologetic Lectures on the Catholic Church], 2nd. ed., Paris: Lethielleux 1931, was used by priest-students studying for doctoral degrees at Pontifical Universities. Fr. Schultes himself taught at the world-renowned Angelicum University. A theologian is thus defined by him (and recognized by the Church) as "learned men who after the time of the Church Fathers scientifically taught sacred doctrine in the Church."

 The pre-Vatican II theologians were all clerics (i.e., priests and bishops) who received either a Doctorate in Sacred Theology (STD) or a Doctorate in Canon Law (JCD). The latter are known as canonists and apply the proper theological principles to the Sacred Canons to ascertain the correct meaning and application of each Canon to each unique situation. Every theologian had to defend and publish a dissertation before the Board of Examiners of a Pontifical University, and it had to bear an Imprimatur and Nihil Obstat declaring the work free from all error against faith and morals.  The breadth and depth of theological knowledge enjoyed by theologians was vastly superior to both laymen and the average priest or bishop because of the excellence of their training.

Theologians are said to be "approved" at least insofar as (a) they manifest a certain eminence in doctrine in their writings and (b) display orthodoxy at least to the extent recognized by the Church that their writings are used by the faithful and the theological schools, with the knowledge of (and with no opposition from) the Magisterium of the Church.  (See, e.g,. theologian Salaverri, Sacrae Theologiae Summa, IB, [1955]). 

Aaron: Either way, the only unanimous opinions that hold moral weight are those of the Magisterium, that is the bishops in communion with the Pope, and Tradition, especially the Fathers and the Scholastics.

Wrong again professor! Pope Pius IX wrote, "For even if it were a matter concerning that subjection which is to be manifested by an act of divine faith, nevertheless, it would not have to be limited to those matters which have been defined by express decrees of the ecumenical Councils, or of the Roman Pontiffs and of this See, but would have to be extended also to those matters which are handed down as divinely revealed by the ordinary teaching power of the whole Church spread throughout the world, and therefore, by universal and common consent are held by Catholic theologians to belong to faith." Pope Pius IX, Tuas Libenter (1863),DZ 1683 (Emphasis mine).

Finally, a great summary by theologian Scheeben, "Although the assistance of the Holy Ghost is not directly promised to theologians, nevertheless the assistance promised to the Church requires that He should prevent them as a body from falling into error; otherwise the Faithful who follow them would all be lead astray. The consent of the theologians implies the consent of the Episcopate, according to St. Augustine's dictum, 'Not to resist an error is to approve of it---not to defend a truth is to reject it.'"(See A Manual of Catholic Theology 1:83).

  • Ambiguity about ambiguity
If it is the case that “any deliberate ambiguity must be interpreted against the orthodoxy of the one teaching ambiguously,” then Pope St. Liberius must be considered an Arian heretic, because he signed the First Profession of Faith of Sirmium deliberately on account of its ambiguity. 

Nope. Actually, the majority of historians doubt that Liberius ever excommunicated St Athansius or signed the heretical by defect profession of faith. 

According to the early Church historian Socrates (not to be confused with the Greek philosopher), they drove Felix [usurper of the papacy] out of Rome and Constantius was obliged to bring Liberius back. But by the end of his exile, Liberius, under duress, had excommunicated St. Athanasius and signed an ambiguous Arian statement that could be interpreted in either a heretical or an orthodox light.

"St. Jerome says that Liberius returned to Rome “conquered by the tedium of exile and subscribing to heretical wickedness.” St. Athanasius adds: “Liberius, having been exiled, gave in after two years, and, in fear of the death with which he was threatened, signed.” That's why Pope Pius IX wrote of him, "And previously the Arians falsely accused Liberius, also Our predecessor,to the Emperor Constantine, because Liberius refused to condemn St. Athanasius, Bishop of Alexandria, and refused to support their heresy." (See Quartus Supra, para. #16; Emphasis mine.). Remember that Canon 2199 of the 1917 Code includes as an excuse against heresy physical force which according to canonists Abbo and Hannon includes extreme duress (See The Sacred Canons, 2:789). 

Therefore, even if Liberius signed he would NOT be guilty of "heresy be defect" due to extreme duress of having his life threatened. 

I'll stop here as I've shown Aaron, in the battle of wits, comes unarmed. 


47 comments:

  1. I hope this gentleman reads this article, does some serious research, and leaves this bogus church that deceives even the elect. Because if sect V2 is the Catholic Church, that means that the Holy Church can teach errors, set up false rites and that popes can be heretics and remain popes. As Bergie says, it's a solemn nonsense.

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    1. Simon,
      You are so right! Notice that the apologists for the Vatican II sect want to covert us while their fearless leader, Bergoglio, tells us "proselytism is solemn nonsense." What irony!

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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  2. After reading Introibo's original post, Mr. Debusschere's response, and now this rebuttal, one thing comes to mind (and I do hope that he reads the replies): Mr. Debusschere speaks of Vatican II almost as if it were in a vacuum, completely separated from everything that came after it. Could such a thing be countenanced from an ecumenical council of the Catholic Church?

    Consider the approved catechisms that came out after Vatican I: they - to some degree or another - touch on papal infallibility (as promulgated by the Vatican Council) and its ramifications. It would be surprise if they didn't, for the fruits of the Council were to be spread throughout the world for the sake of the faithful, that they may know and understand what Holy Mother Church wished to teach.

    So in like manner, if we want to know how Vatican II was understood by its promoters and supporters, we **must** turn to the hierarchy's interpretation of it, as expounded through magisterial teachings (such as encyclicals), official catechisms, documents from pontifical congregations, any universal disciplinary or liturgical laws, and the common consensus of the hierarchy's approved theologians.

    In light of all that has occurred since Vatican II, who can help but conclude that it is Introibo's take on events - rather than Mr. Debusschere's - that more closely corresponds to reality?

    Sincerely,

    A Simple Man

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    1. Simple Man,
      Very astute observation, my friend! I wonder if Mr. Debusschere will respond. Only time will tell.

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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    2. A Simple Man, I have presented a response to your inquiry in my latest post: https://theromanticcatholic.wordpress.com/2021/02/13/to-a-simple-man/
      God bless,
      Aaron Debusschere

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    3. Aaron,
      I have added an Addendum. You make my work too easy in exposing the falsehood of the Vatican II sect!

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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  3. Awesome as always introibo! Congrats

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  4. Introibo.Hello from Asia.Another great article.Let us pay Mr D leaves the Vatican Two Sect.

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      Glad to hear from Traditionalists in Asia! May Mr. D convert, and may you always keep the Faith!

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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  5. Introbio, I very much enjoyed your detailed essay I can tell you spent a lot of time writing it.

    What gets me is when people say Vatican 2 is being misinterpreted, I simply don’t understand how they could make such a claim, wishful thinking perhaps? In any case do we know what a written law is if it has been interpreted and put in practice by the lawful authority? How much more so if we have the statements and writings of those who wrote the law? How can anyone say that Vatican 2 is being misinterpreted when we have 60 years of Vatican 2, all the practices and declarations of the novus ordo church showing us what it truly is? Furthermore how can anyone say that a man is a heretic and in schism when he himself says his “popes” have been misinterpreting church doctrine for 60 years?

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    1. Ryan,
      I agree, yet there are still thousands who believe that their own "Magisterium" doesn't understand. Kind of like the Feeneyites who claim that nothing needs to be believed except ex cathedra statements, and popes can continually teach "error" (BOD and BOB) yet remain pope.

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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    2. Ryan,

      I think part of it comes from the fact that, at least as far as America goes, we live in a culture that has lost sight of what lawful authority looks and *acts* like. While many have utterly rejected the concept of authority altogether, others have gone the other direction and professed that obedience to the visible authority must be held at all times...even if said authority does things which are impossible for them do per Catholic theology. (This also goes into how people can't differentiate between secular authority and ecclesiastical authority, but that's another topic.)

      I have a feeling that Mr. Debusschere would benefit from reading this essay from Fr. H.G. Hughes regarding exactly how the Church teachers her children: https://novusordowatch.org/hughes-what-are-catholics-bound-to-believe/

      "We have now to consider another class of truths taught by the Church but not proposed to us as divinely revealed. That the Church is infallible in such teaching is one of those truths taught by her ordinary magisterium, as is clear from her constant and universal practice. We have seen that she is not only the teacher but also the custodian of the deposit of revelation. It is her office, therefore, to protect and keep intact the body of revealed truth. Now, it constantly happens that men put forth, on a multitude of subjects, opinions which are incompatible with some acknowledged truth of revelation. In such a case the Church has the power to condemn the false opinion or to define what is the truth of the matter, even though that truth be not contained in the original revelation delivered to her by the Apostles. Without this power she could not fulfil that most important duty of “keeping the faith,” ––defending and protecting the deposit of revelation. When, therefore, the Church does define a truth, not as revealed but as necessary to the defence of revealed truth; when, too, she proscribes some error incompatible with revealed doctrine, Catholics are bound to assent to her judgment, to accept the truth and reject the error."

      In other words, to reject JP2's teaching post-Vatican II as shown in his encyclicals, as somehow antithetical to Vatican II, is to reject the Church's teaching authority implicitly (if JP2 had been a true Pope, and V2 had been a true Council).

      Sincerely,

      A Simple Man

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    3. Thank you for the reply Simple Man,
      I concur that it is un-Catholic to to say you have a better interpretation of ecclesiastical law than the pope. What an absurdity. Try that with a judge at traffic court and see how that turns out, how much more ridiculous to try it with a Pope?

      To expand on your point Truth itself is harmonious and cannot contradict itself for something cannot both be true and untrue at the same time. If the “pope,” and Vatican 2 are in contradiction one must consequently be wrong, if the “pope” is wrong, then how can he be the Pope? If Vatican 2 is wrong how can it be of the Church? but I say why not both be wrong?

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    4. Introbio a thought just occurred to me:
      Is not Saying that the Church can misinterpret a council akin to saying the Church can misinterpret Sacred Scripture?

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    5. Ryan,
      Absolutely! The Vatican II sect apologists frame it differently. They will claim there's an orthodox interpretation and Traditionalists "read heresy into the text." When their claim is broken down, as I did in this post, we see that is not the case at all. They are the one's putting a spin--or "romanticizing"--heresy. They are, de facto, claiming the Magisterium can't teach correctly or is subject to teaching ambiguously--both of which propositions are heretical and blasphemous.

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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  6. I'm a day late, but how fitting to post a rebuttal defending sedevacantism on the feast of St. Peter's chair in Rome (Jan. 18th). Great job!

    Lee

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    1. Lee,
      It's fitting, but I honestly didn't plan it that way!

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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    2. Nice comment Lee.
      God bless -Andrew

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  7. Introibo,
    Reading these fine rebuttals of yours is like having an intelectual feast!

    I do hope Mr. Debusschere reads your polemic; if he is of good will, these quotes from Ratzinger and Wojtyła should cause him to doubt whether he’s an apologist for the right religion or not.

    Regarding the book "Sign of Contradiction" by Wojtyła:
    I checked the Spanish translation (published in 1978), and found that the heresy of justification of all men is also present in there.
    Page 113:
    "Todos los hombres, desde el principio del mundo y hasta su final, han sido redimidos y JUSTIFICADOS [emphasis mine] por Cristo y por su cruz."
    You can view the Spanish edition under this link:
    https://www.scribd.com/document/235860968/Signo-de-Contradiccion
    There's even more blatant heresy in it.
    I’d like to elaborate on a particular quote that can be found on page 17 (English edition); the chapter is called "God of infinite majesty".
    Let me describe the context briefly (Mr. Debusschere, I hope you're paying attention):
    Wojtyła is speaking of some human transcendence, the longing of human beings for the Absolute Being, typical modernist blather of the inner religiosity of all men. Then, comes the ecumenism (the Catholic religious and pagans are supposed to be praying to the same God) and pantheism (God is supposed to transcend all of creation in an absolute manner). Wojtyła twists the words of St. John of the Cross so as to make this great Saint appear sympathetic to atheists. That's it for the contextual background.
    What comes next is Wojtyła's take on "Gaudium et Spes":
    "The Church of the living God gathers together all men, who in one way or another share this marvelous transcendence of the human spirit. And all of them know that nobody except the God of infinite majesty can satisfy their deepest longings (cf Gaudium et spes, n. 41).
    This transcendence of the human person manifests itself in the prayer of faith, but from time to time in profound silence too. This silence, which sometimes seems to separate man from God, is nonetheless a special manifestation of the vital bond linking God and the human spirit [even atheists are “united” to God in this pantheistic, twisted philosophy of Wojtyła].”
    Bad enough? Wait for the ultimate paragraph:
    “The Church of our day has become particularly conscious of this truth; and it was in the light of this truth that the Church succeeded, during the second Vatican Council, in RE-DEFINING her own NATURE [emphasis mine].”
    This is outrageous heresy right in the face, and plain enough for everyone to see.

    God bless,
    Joanna S.

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    1. Joanna,
      Wojtyla really showed his true colors in that book. It is so heretical, he could never attain the office of the papacy, let alone lose it. Wojtyla's doctoral thesis on St. John of the Cross was given a failing grade by the eminent theologian Fr. Garrigou-Lagrange, who said he "writes much, but says little." The great theologian told Wojtyla, "You are not Catholic." Unfortunately, Wojtyla had a most powerful patron in Cardinal Sapieha, who convinced a sympathetic cleric (alleged to have also been a cardinal) in the Vatican to overrule Fr Garrigou-Lagrange and grant the future false pope his doctorate.

      "Writes much, says little" [that's Catholic] because he is not Catholic. Fr. Garrigou-Lagrange hit the proverbial nail on the head. Thanks for the info and confirmation in the Spanish text, Joanna!

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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    2. Introibo,
      Novus Ordos always fail to mention the fact that Fr. Garrigou Lagrange intended to flunk Wojtyła's doctoral dissertation!
      Thank you for the follow-up; I didn't know that this great Thomist actually confronted Wojtyła, so the future Koran-kisser got rebuked early on in his 'career' and could hear the words of a real theologian that he indeed was not Catholic.
      Wikipedia says that Cardinal Sapieha admitted Wojtyła to undergound seminary in Kraków under the German occupation of Poland during WWII, took care of his spiritual formation there, and ordained him in 1946.
      Wojtyła was an amateur actor, he would later exercise his charisma as JP2, to the detriment of countless souls. This is just my humble opinion but maybe these tricks he played enabled him to win people over, even the likes of Cdl. Sapieha?

      God Bless,
      Joanna S.

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    3. Joanna,
      Wojtyla was indeed an actor, and what a great act he put on for those who didn't understand the Faith, yet desperately wanted to believe "the essentials" hadn't changed after Vatican II. As I had written about Wojtyla before, he was artful at hiding his heresy to those not well-versed in the Faith.

      JPII would constantly reiterate traditional Church teaching on abortion and euthanasia to the applause of "conservative" Vatican II sect members. Granted they are huge evils. Unfortunately, no one stopped to realize that they reached catastrophic proportions precisely because Wojtyla simultaneously helped push for the removal of Catholicism as the State religion. Countries that never had legal abortion or euthanasia (Belgium, Ireland, Spain, etc) fell as part of the "culture of death" once the influence of Catholicism was gone. After all, the "Church of Christ" subsists in all sects! Add to this sodomite "marriage" that he all made possible.

      I can see how those not sufficiently knowledgeable and strong in the Faith could fall for the theatrics of Wojtyla. Unfortunately, for a highly trained cleric like Cardinal Sapieha, there is no such excuse.

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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  8. This post reinforces the
    spiritual decay were all suffering under.
    Good job Mate.
    God bless
    -Andrew

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    1. Andrew,
      Thank you! I hope Mr. D responds; it would be most interesting to see what he says.

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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  9. Unrelated to the post at hand, but I hadn't realized that the baseball player Hank Aaron (who just passed away this morning on 1/22/2021) converted to the Catholic Church in 1959 with his family.

    Apparently, Aaron frequently read Thomas a Kempis's "Imitation of Christ", which he kept in his locker. His friendship with the priest Fr. Mike Sablica (who, based on what obituary information I could find, was ordained on 05/26/1956, so he was a valid priest; he lived from 1920 through 1997) had a big impact on his conversion.

    Alas, it seems like they both stayed with the Novus Ordo (which, given the short timeframe between Hank's conversion and Sablica's ordination, wouldn't surprise me).

    May they rest in peace by the Mercy of God.

    Sincerely,

    A Simple Man

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    1. Simple Man,
      Thank you for this information! I'm not a sports fan, but I was watching the day Mr. Aaron broke Babe Ruth's Homerun record. In these days when professional athletes are by and large moral degenerates, it's nice to hear of this conversion.

      Hopefully, he was given the grace to have the Integral Catholic faith and sanctifying grace before he died and is now a member of God's "Hall of Fame"--the only thing that really matters.

      ---Introibo

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    2. It's truly sad to hear the news about Hank Aaron.

      Here is what it says on the cbssportsline website about his last "great" act:

      One of Aaron's final public acts was getting the coronavirus vaccine, alongside his wife, Billye, former U.N. Ambassador and civil rights leader Andrew Young and former U.S. Health and Human Services Secretary Louis Sullivan. The goal of Aaron's public vaccination was to inspire and empower Black Americans -- who may have skepticism due to historical medical abuse and discrimination -- to do the same.

      Apparently this happened on Jan. 5th. and on another website he said it made him feel good to receive it. Bill Gates and the WHO would agree with all this.

      People may argue that he was just old and died from natural causes (and he could have) but is it not odd that he died a little over two weeks after receiving it. Just sayin.

      Lee



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    3. Lee,
      Isn't it amazing that if someone tests positive for COVID WEEKS prior to death, it is considered a "COVID death." When someone dies a few DAYS after the vaccine, it is immediately ruled out as being the cause of death?

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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    4. His Wife,was a
      "civil rights activist."
      It's been proven the
      "civil rights" movement was covert communism.
      Also,it seems our Blessed Lord saved Fr.De Chardin from himself by allowing him to die in 1955,one decade before the revolution was in full swing.
      God bless -Andrew

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    5. It’s amazing people believe COVID even exists. 99% of people who get a disease are asymptomatic? Who ever heard of such a thing so stupid?

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    6. @Ryan
      I agree but when Man stops believing in God he'll believe anything except the truth.
      -Andrew

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    7. Introibo,

      What's even more amazing is how the media "our most trusted" savior of the world is all of a sudden playing down Covid now that the Chi-com agent Joe Biden is in "office." It just disappears and now Democratic states are talking about opening back up. Surprise! When the new press secretary Jen Psaki was asked about Biden's new 100 day mask mandate on federal property and why he wasn't leading by example when he and his family were caught not wearing a mask, her answer was "we have more important things to worry about." The mask represents Communism. You look the same as everybody getting rid of the idea of personal identity, personal rights, and personal dignity something which Pope Pius XI warned about in Divini Redemptoris. But that is okay because Biden has now put out an executive order for transgenders to play women sports, while before to long taxes, gas prices, and food prices will be going up while re-education camps and small businesses going out of business will be the new normal. But this all suppose to be so wonderful because liberalism and communism is so loving.

      Ryan,

      The reason so many believe in such an overblown sickness is because they lack faith in God and put to much trust in man and "science." They are sheep led to the slaughter. As I have heard before we are living in the "Zeitgeist" (the spirit of the age) but we know that spirit isn't of God, but of the devil. One thing we know for certain is Biden and Bergoglio have three things in common: 1. They are Communist 2. They are not the legitimate authority they claim to be 3. They are not Catholic. God Bless

      Lee

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    8. Andrew,
      Not all civil rights activists back in the 1960s were Communists like BLM is today. Black people were truly discriminated against 60 years ago, and many just wanted to put an end to it. Not all were like the wretched Malcolm X. Without more information, it would be making a rash judgement to think Mrs. Aaron was necessarily in league with Communists. To the best of my knowledge and belief, neither Hank Aaron nor his wife were associated with (or approved of) BLM.

      Ryan,
      I agree COVID is being manipulated by the government.

      Lee,
      You're correct on all three assertions about Bergoglio and Biden.

      ---Introibo

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    9. How Commies see the world:
      Bergoglio n Biden: 🕊
      Trump: 👹
      The rest of the people: 🐇🐇🐇🐇 (test rabbits)

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    10. I didn't say everyone involved with 1960's Civil Rights was a communist but the movement itself,objectively speaking,was covert communism.
      God bless -Andrew

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  10. Has anyone noticed that the ordinary flu is hardly mentioned any more? At least not in my State. What has happened to the approximately 200,000 people who die each year from the flu? I find this very odd.

    JoAnn

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    1. Joann,
      COVID is real, but being manipulated for political reasons. WE may never know the full truth and machinations in our lifetime.

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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  11. As most of you know, my husband was diagnosed with Covid-19 and was hospitalized 8 days. Subsequently, I have had the weirdest questions from various Drs concerning Covid. I went to a heart Dr. the other day. When I told him my husband had been hospitalized with Covid, he said "well if he had it, you had it too". I told him I did not have it. He asked me if I was tested and I told him that I was told by my Primary Care that if I didn't have symptoms, I didn't require testing. He then told me "you HAVE to get the vaccine" (no way am I getting a vaccine). I told another Dr. about my husband being diagnosed with Covid and was asked if my husband was "overweight, a smoker and had high blood pressure." I told the Dr "no, but I was the one who was overweight, and a smoker with high blood pressure". The Dr then said "you certainly are "one for the books". "You should have gotten Covid, not your husband"! Then, my husband after being discharged from the hospital had to find a primary care Dr. When he went for a visit, the Dr. asked him "why didn't your wife get Covid"?! I find these Drs questions and statements concerning Covid very incredulous.

    JoAnn

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    1. JoAnn,
      glad to see you back!

      What's been happening since March 2020 has shown that the majority of those in medical professions are simply quacks. It may sound harsh but the stopping of virtually all planned medical procedures in my home country is a fact - and, as of Nov./Dec. 2020, it cost lives of some 75,000 people (and still counting). You won't find such a horrifying figure in any other country; the government we have in Poland right now is pure evil.
      And if the 'doctors' (who won't even touch a covid 'positive' patient) ever had any kind of scientific background in medical studies, most of them found it very easy to embrace scientism and the cult of the unholy mask. They refuse to treat serious medical conditions and, instead, are treated to free pizza.
      This degeneration is painfully evident in Poland due to the public health system we've got here, where M.D.'s have been given idol-like status by their patients and for decades would get flowers plus chocolates for simply doing their job (old habits die hard but with the advent of Internet, patients are getting more ctitical towards their doctors, which is a healthy thing).
      I guess in the US the doctor-patient relations are still more partner-like.

      God Bless,
      Joanna S.

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    2. If nothing else, the recent outcome of the election and the hysteria over COVID-19 over the past year has demonstrated the vice-like grip that the Left - through mainstream news outlets, social media, and other aspects of Big Tech - has on political and cultural discourse in this country.

      Exhibit A: https://www.dailywire.com/news/unions-wanted-biden-now-theyre-blasting-him-over-killing-keystone-xl

      Sincerely,

      A Simple Man

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    3. Joanna,
      Thanks much! Appreciate the welcome.

      I ran across the below linked article regarding 33 people dying in Norway after they received the Covid vaccine. Of course the medical professionals are downplaying the vaccine related deaths due to the people's ages. Can't attribute anything negative to a vaccine it seems!

      https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-18/norway-finds-no-direct-link-between-elderly-deaths-and-vaccine

      JoAnn

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    4. Joanna,
      hospitals were receiving $77,000 per COVID patient, now I think it’s around $50,000, this could explain why the doctors were behaving the way they were.

      https://www.hfma.org/topics/news/2020/07/the-new-round-will-pay--50-000-per-covid-19-admission--compared-.html

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  12. A Simple Man,
    isn't it symptomatic that many of those who cheered for Biden aka Sleepy Joe during the presidential campaign, are now shedding (crocodile?) tears over his executive orders? Suddenly, Novus Ordo non-bishops lament his pro-sodomite stance, like the guy didn't already show his true colors (well, so did they!). But then again, it's just a family quarrel. I guess that if the Novus Ordo laity in general were ready to embrace sodomy, the USC(un)CB wouldn't even bother to issue any statements, expressing their 'sadness' over spreading the poison of LGBT by Biden's (or rather Harris's) administration.

    JoAnn,
    I've heard about people dying after having received the vaccine in Norway, France, Israel, and now it seems there's a Polish victim as well.
    Fr. Stephen McKenna has written a short guide on this new mRNA vaccine, focusing on its medical and socio-political aspects.
    Here's the link:
    http://www.sgg.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/McKennamRNAVax.pdf
    I haven't read Fr.'s article yet but I already made up my mind. I won't be getting the vaccine, no matter what. Triggering an autoimmune response in a human body by injecting some viral genetic code sounds like a cliché of a script for a Bond movie rather than medicine.
    I believe people should be warned against the dangers of this novel vaccine (or gene 'therapy' more like).
    These past months have shown that those responsible for pushing the vaccine are not really interested in our well-being.

    God Bless,
    Joanna S.

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    1. Joanna,
      Thanks much for the link to Fr. McKenna's article. Like you, I will not be getting the Covid vaccine. I haven't taken the annual flu shot in 30 yrs and am constantly being berated by Drs because I refuse it. Also, the virus seems to be mutating at a fast pace and it will be interesting watching how the pharmaceutical companies handle the mutations.

      JoAnn

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  13. Introibo, do all Vat-II antipopes deserve to be called "apostates" or is it an abuse of terminology? Can apostates be called heretics?

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    1. @anon7:54
      HERESY is when a baptized person in the True Church obstinately denies or doubts a truth revealed by God and proposed by the Church for belief, according to Canon 1325 of the 1917 Code. APOSTASY is complete defection from the faith on the part of one who received the True Faith. (Ibid).

      Roncalli through Bergoglio all fit into the category of apostates. They were all baptized and raised in the true Faith (Roncalli, Montini, Luciani, and Wojtyla being true bishops--and Ratzinger being a true priest; Bergoglio a true layman in the True Church). ALL rejected the One True Church to start a new false sect or keep it going.

      All apostates are heretics but not all heretics are apostates. To call an apostate a heretic, while not wrong, is imprecise theological terminology. It is OK to use the term to show that if the lower threshold is enough to keep the false pope out of the Church, what are we to say of those who go farther? It makes the point.

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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