Monday, October 11, 2021

That All May Be Ecumenists

 

One of the most Modernist documents ever written came from the pen of "Pope" "St." John Paul the Great (Apostate).  On May 25, 1995, Karol Wojtyla promulgated his "encyclical" Ut Unum Sint ("That they may be one"), a masterful summation of the ecumenism which drives the Vatican II sect. The Roman Catholic Church, the One True Church of Jesus Christ, outside of which no one may be saved, is the solitary Ark of Salvation. She is anti-ecumenical by definition. The Vatican II sect is ecumenism manifested to the world. There are a great many problems for the "recognize and resist" (R&R) crowd, as well as for the Vatican II sect apologists--both of whom want to believe Bergoglio is pope, and the Vatican II sect is the Church. Having to accept the fruits of ecumenism is one of those myriad problems.

This post will demonstrate the practical consequences that come with "recognizing" the Modernist Vatican as Catholic. The teachings of the sect's "great" so-called pope and saint, Wojtyla (along with those of  the Robber Council itself, and the other false popes), mean that you must accept the dire practical results of ecumenism as coming from the Magisterium. 

Denying Christ in the Practical Order
Many Traditionalists focus on the doctrinal problems with ecumenism, and they should be lauded for so doing. However, many neglect to mention the practical problems posed by ecumenism, which are more than troubling on the doctrinal level as well.

  • Ecumenism denies the sin of heresy.
The sin of heresy is reduced to a kind of mutual sin against charity and not against the faith. It holds the Church guilty of wrongdoing (not particular clerics, but the Spotless Bride of Christ) for "causing" the heretic to separate from the Church. In the Common Christological Declaration of 1994 between monophysite heretics and the Vatican II sect, Wojtyla states:

The Lord's Spirit permits us to understand better today that the divisions brought about in this way were due in large part to misunderstandings. (Emphasis mine). "Mutual misunderstandings" and not the sin of disbelief by refusal to submit to the Magisterium were the cause of the heretical monophysities. 

In Ut Unum Sint, para. #38, Wojtyla asserts that attacking heresy as the Church had always done is wrong because true doctrine and heresy are not really incompatible, but just two different ways of looking at reality:

Intolerant polemics and controversies have made incompatible assertions out of what was really the result of two different ways of looking at the same reality. (Emphasis mine). Furthermore, the Church failed to capture the fullness of reality in its dogmatic formulations. Nowadays we need to find the formula which, by capturing the reality in its entirety, will enable us to move beyond partial readings and eliminate false interpretations. (Ibid). 

Vatican II itself teaches that we must "appreciate" false teachings and practices of other "Communions."
From Unitatis Redintegratio, para. #4: In such [ecumenical] dialogue, everyone gains a truer knowledge and more just appreciation of the teaching and religious life of both Communions.

Wojtyla claims truth and falsehood "complement" each other: Communion is made fruitful by the exchange of gifts between the Churches (sic) insofar as they complement each other. (Ut Unum Sint, para. #57).

Ecumenism renders heresy little more than misunderstandings and failures perpetrated by both the heretic and the Church. This is, in itself, both heretical and blasphemous. It also contends that the Church should "appreciate" heresy. How does one appreciate sin and a denial of the Faith? Reality Check: The Supreme Sacred Congregation of the Holy Office decreed on December 20, 1949: It is false that heretics...on coming back to the Church [are giving] an essential element to Her that was missing until now.

  • Ecumenism denigrates dogmas by holding some to be more worthy of belief than others
In his November 17, 1980 speech to the "Evangelic Church Council," Wojtyla said:

It is therefore more clearly before my eyes what matters our common profession of Jesus Christ, His word and his work in this world, and how we are driven by the urgency of the hour to overcome the differences that divide us and to bear witness to our growing union...Reflecting on the "Augsburg Confession," (!)  and through numerous contacts, we again realized that we believe and profess all this together. 

Reality Check:
Many think that these concessions should be made not only in regard to ways of living, but even in regard to doctrines which belong to the Deposit of the Faith. They contend that it would be opportune, in order to gain those who differ from us, to omit certain points of Her teaching which are of lesser importance, and to tone down the meaning which the Church has always attached to them. It does not need many words, beloved son, to prove the falsity of these ideas if the nature and origin of the doctrine which the Church proposes are recalled to mind. (Pope Leo XIII, Testem Benevolentiae; Emphasis mine)

  • Ecumenism changes Dogmatic Formulas
From Ut Unum Sint:
The faithful of the Catholic Church cannot forget that the ecumenical thrust of the Second Vatican Council is one consequence of all that the Church at that time committed herself to doing in order to re-examine herself in the light of the Gospel and the great Tradition. My Predecessor, Pope John XXIII, understood this clearly: in calling the Council, he refused to separate renewal from ecumenical openness. At the conclusion of the Council, Pope Paul VI solemnly sealed the Council's commitment to ecumenism, renewing the dialogue of charity with the Churches in communion with the Patriarch of Constantinople, and joining the Patriarch in the concrete and profoundly significant gesture which "condemned to oblivion" and "removed from memory and from the midst of the Church" the excommunications of the past. It is worth recalling that the establishment of a special body for ecumenical matters coincided with the launching of preparations for the Second Vatican Council and that through this body the opinions and judgments of the other Christian Communities played a part in the great debates about Revelation, the Church, the nature of ecumenism and religious freedom... Taking up an idea expressed by Pope John XXIII at the opening of the Council, the Decree on Ecumenism mentions the way of formulating doctrine as one of the elements of a continuing reform. (para. #17-18; Emphasis mine).

This very idea was specifically CONDEMNED by the Church:

In theology some want to reduce to a minimum the meaning of dogmas; and to free dogma itself from terminology long established in the Church and from philosophical concepts held by Catholic teachers, to bring about a return in the explanation of Catholic doctrine to the way of speaking used in Holy Scripture and by the Fathers of the Church. They cherish the hope that when dogma is stripped of the elements which they hold to be extrinsic to divine revelation, it will compare advantageously with the dogmatic opinions of those who are separated from the unity of the Church and that in this way they will gradually arrive at a mutual assimilation of Catholic dogma with the tenets of the dissidents. (Pope Pius XII, Humani Generis, para. #14; Emphasis mine). 

  • Ecumenism gives us false "martyrs"
Bergoglio speaks of a so-called “ecumenism of blood” whereby Catholics and heretics are spiritually united by being killed for professing allegiance to Christ. If true, then it would mean that the motive of the murderer can cause religious unity between Catholics and non-Catholics, despite contradictory beliefs. This is different from Baptism of Blood (BOB), whereby the person dies for the faith explicitly, or implicitly (with only external, and accidental belonging to a false sect) desires to be in the True Church. It is not someone attached to falsehood and dies for that falsehood, while "professing Christ," who then becomes an ersatz "martyr." 

According to Bergoglio:
Pope Francis on Monday denounced the murder of 21 Coptic Christians by ISIL militants in Libya. The Islamist terrorist organization released a video of the killings on Sunday.

Speaking in Spanish to an ecumenical delegation from the Church of Scotland, the Holy Father noted those killed only said “Jesus help me.”

“They were killed simply for the fact they were Christians,” Pope Francis said.

“The blood of our Christian brothers and sisters is a testimony which cries out to be heard,” said the Pope. It makes no difference whether they be Catholics, Orthodox, Copts or Protestants. They are Christians! Their blood is one and the same. Their blood confesses Christ.”

Pope Francis said that in remembering these brothers and sisters who have been murdered simply for confessing Christ, Christians should encourage one another in the ecumenical goal, noting the “ecumenism of blood.”

“The martyrs belong to all Christians,” he said. (See http://www.archivioradiovaticana.va/storico/2015/02/16/pope_francis_the_blood_of_murdered_copts_a_witness/en-1123688). 

Reality Check:
[The Council of Florence] firmly believes, professes, and proclaims that those not living within the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews and heretics and schismatics cannot become participants in eternal life, but will depart “into everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels” [Matt. 25:41], unless before the end of life the same have been added to the flock; and that the unity of the ecclesiastical body is so strong that only to those remaining in it are the sacraments of the Church of benefit for salvation, and do fastings, almsgiving, and other functions of piety and exercises of Christian service produce eternal reward, and that no one, whatever almsgiving he has practiced, even if he has shed blood for the name of Christ, can be saved, unless he has remained in the bosom and unity of the Catholic Church. (See Decree Cantate Domino). 

  • Ecumenism does not require the conversion of heretics
Jorge Bergoglio:  Pope Francis told the tiny Catholic community in predominantly Muslim Morocco on Sunday that their mission was not to covert their neighbors but to live in brotherhood with other faiths. (See https://www.reuters.com/article/us-pope-morocco/conversion-is-not-your-mission-pope-tells-catholics-in-morocco-idUSKCN1RC0EI; Emphasis mine). 

Again: Proselytism is solemn nonsense; it makes no sense. We need to get to know each other, listen to each other and improve our knowledge of the world around us.
(See brainyquote.com/quotes/pope_francis_571227; Emphasis mine).

Reality Check: Fourth Lateran Council (1215):
One indeed is the universal Church of the faithful, outside which no one at all is saved...

Pope Gregory XVI:
Finally some of these misguided people attempt to persuade themselves and others that men are not saved only in the Catholic religion, but that even heretics may attain eternal life. (Summo Iugiter Studio, para. #2; Emphasis mine).

  • Ecumenism: Pick a Religion, Any Religion
Wojtyla in Ut Unum Sint writes:
It happens for example that, in the spirit of the Sermon on the Mount, Christians of one confession no longer consider other Christians as enemies or strangers but see them as brothers and sisters. Again, the very expression separated brethren tends to be replaced today by expressions which more readily evoke the deep communion — linked to the baptismal character — which the Spirit fosters in spite of historical and canonical divisions. Today we speak of "other Christians", "others who have received Baptism", and "Christians of other Communities." The Directory for the Application of Principles and Norms on Ecumenism refers to the Communities to which these Christians belong as "Churches and Ecclesial Communities that are not in full communion with the Catholic Church."(para. #42; Emphasis mine).

Here we see that there is not "full communion" with the Church, which implies "partial communion." You cannot be "partially Catholic" any more than you can be "partially pregnant," or "partially dead." The heresy of Lumen Gentium, claiming the Church of Christ subsists in the Catholic Church (rather than is the Catholic Church) is demonstrated here. It also explains why Vatican II's Unitatis Redintegratio states in paragraph #3,  For the Spirit of Christ has not refrained from using them [false sects] as means of salvation...

Reality Check: Pope Pius IX, Syllabus of Errors (1864):
The following propositions were all solemnly CONDEMNED:

15. Every man is free to embrace and profess that religion which, guided by the light of reason, he shall consider true.

16. Man may, in the observance of any religion whatever, find the way of eternal salvation, and arrive at eternal salvation.

17. Good hope at least is to be entertained of the eternal salvation of all those who are not at all in the true Church of Christ. 

Conclusion
The consequences of ecumenism are there for all to see. Consider these facts from a 2015 article: Since the 1960s, four American-born Catholics [Vatican II sect] have left the church for every one who has converted, according to a 2009 Pew study. In 2008 alone, Catholic membership declined by 400,000. More than 1,000 parishes have closed since 1995, and the number of priests has fallen from about 49,000 to 40,000 during that same period. Some 3,400 Catholic parishes in the U.S. now lack a resident priest. “Catholicism is in decline across America,” says sociologist David Carlin.(See theweek.com/articles/494879/catholics-crisis). 

The ecumenism of the Vatican II sect, and the results that follow, prove that Traditionalists are correct that the Robber Council taught heresy and brought about a new man-made religion. The practical consequences of the ecumenical Modernist doctrine adapted at Vatican II have taken hold. If heresy is just misunderstandings, if the Church is at fault for divisions, if not all dogmas are that important, if you can be saved in virtually any other religion---why become (or remain) "Catholic"?

If you're ever tempted to listen to the R&R or Vatican II sect apologists, re-read the above and remember the words of Our Lord Jesus Christ: By their fruits you shall know them. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit, and the evil tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can an evil tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit, shall be cut down, and shall be cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits you shall know them. (St. Matthew 7:16-20; Emphasis mine). 

34 comments:

  1. Bergoglio says proselytizing is a sin against ecumenism. We can say that ecumenism is a poison against the Catholic faith. The devil is cunning, he knows how the Church works and he made his Freemasons and Modernist henchmen lead the Church in order to spread the false doctrines condemned by the true Popes. It is unfortunate that so many people and especially people who call themselves sincere Catholics and R&R "traditionalists" are deceived by appearances. I have been for a long time, but now they won't do it again another time.

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    1. Simon,
      When more people recognize you can't resist and see the wolf in St. Peter's clothing, THEN perhaps we can begin the process to bring back a true pope!

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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  2. Ecumenism is the newchurch's path towards a "unity of contradiction" in which many will be drawn in unity against the Faith. To that end, the antipope will preach against the Faith, but those who do not follow him may not lose their souls (Apoc. 13: 1-8). Otherwise, they are part of a conglomerate of false religions: "Babylon the great
    is fallen, is fallen: and is become the habitation of devils and the hold of every unclean spirit and the hold of every unclean and hateful bird" (Apoc. 18: 2).

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    1. caisahr__stjoseph,
      In the Vatican II sect, everyone is welcomed to belong to their One World Ecumenical Modernist Religion. All except Traditionalists; the truth is persecuted and hated.

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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  3. Hello.

    Can anyone from Poland tell me what are this polish girls and a rocking nun singing?. Is it a secular song or is it "catholic" rock?
    https://novusordowatch.org/2014/05/news-digest-may-13-2014/
    Thank you for your answers.

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    1. Poni,
      the lyrics to this monstrosity were penned by Leopold Staff, a 20th cent. Polish poet, fascinated with Nietzsche. The lyrics in English are as follows (posted by the Modernist rocker nun herself, s. Benedetta but I needed to correct i a bit:

      "You pull the night around my head
      A dark curtain
      The power of light faints within me
      I shall fade away, I shall die

      Tighten yourself around me and thicken
      A black covering
      Let your hard fist clench me
      Like a living seed

      Though your omnipotence reduces
      My thoughts and my body to a pulp
      My covenant with you endures
      And will endure."

      To me, this is borderline satanic.

      God Bless,
      Joanna S.

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    2. I am shocked! 😦 I thought it was a polish folk song to the tune of rock musick. It reads like something from a heavy metal band or Led Zeppelin. In fact I get the impression that the lyrics are about you selling your soul to satan!

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    3. Joanna,
      Thank you for the translation--an abomination for sure!

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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    4. That is Satanic.
      "Dark curtain" makes me think of the hood around a criminal before he/she is hung.
      God bless -Andrew

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    5. Also "thighten yourself around me and thicken / a black covering" sounds like... well, being hanged.

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    6. It sure sounds like it.
      I thought nothing could appal me anymore when it comes to Novus Ordo abominations but this "nun" running a NO private school "choir" is truly horrifying. May St. Joseph, Terror of demons, protect us from such apostates.

      God Bless,
      Joanna S.

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  4. JP2 is the only "Saint" who was "canonized" after worshipping Devils at Assisi 1 + 2.

    God bless -Andrew

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    1. Andrew,
      Yes, a devil who worshipped devils--the Great Apostate!

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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    2. Also, perhaps one of of the greatest public relations con-man of the XX century.

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    3. He and Mother Teresa are arguably the biggest deceivers in the V2 sect.

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    4. I heard he was walking around with Das Capital under his arm at the Conclave that elected him, but here is the precise account, undoubtedly so they would know who to elect this second time around! Maybe this is why JPI “died”, they read the secret signals wrong and elected the wrong one. So Wojtyla had to resort to walking around with a clue. This is just my own theory. Who knows? It sounds so crazy it could be true. Truth is stranger than fiction.

      In his biography of Pope John Paul II, George Weigel relates an amusing anecdote from the second conclave of 1978, in which Cardinal Karol Wojtyla would be elected pope.

      As Weigel tells it:

      It is known that Wojtyla occupied Cell 91 in the Apostolic Palace, and that he took a Marxist philosophical journal into the Sistine Chapel to read during the lengthy process of ballot counting; when asked by a chaffing colleague whether that wasn’t a bit scandalous, he smiled and replied that his conscience was clear.

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    5. @anon4:02
      For Wojtyla's conscience to be clear, hr would need to have one in the first place!

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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    6. When my son was little and saw the Wacky Races cartoon for the first time, he was so scandalized, he said, Mom, the bad guy does something bad and then he laughs! That creepy smile that Wojtyla gave would have been the same!

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  5. The Modernists hate the very idea of the Church being the sole Ark of Salvation.
    This is taken from a note issued by the Commission for the Teaching of the Faith (part of the Polish Non-Bishops' Conference) regarding some covid baloney last year:
    "It is unacceptable to (...) promote the image of the Church as a SAFE ARK [emphasis mine], made solely for the holy and just ones."

    Glad they've finally admitted (albeit implicitly) their sect is actually dangerous!

    God Bless,
    Joanna S.

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    1. The V2 sect is an ark of perdition and many will get lost if they don't leave it.

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    2. It truly is dreadful. Once again mentioning the NO Jesuit that I've been discussing with, he'll agree immediately that the Church is the sole Ark of Salvation, the ultimate arbiter of truth, but then, after drowning me in several paragraphs of tangential points and leaving me wondering as to what he was getting at, he somehow finds a way to modify (bRoAdEn) the scope or meaning of these doctrines (modernist semantic drivel). I'm still crying internally over the fact that he claims that the Medieval Church changed the meaning of Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus from how it was originally taught and understood in the patristic era and that Vatican II recovered this understanding of the dogma. There goes indefectibility...

      Sincerely,
      Dapouf

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    3. Dapouf,
      Yes...and leaves you with a Magisterium that you can't trust to teach you correctly--which is no Magisterium at all!

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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  6. Does anyone know anywhere that I can read about the lives of many different Saints? I've hardly dedicated anything toward that side of my spiritual life and I read about St. Therese of the Child Jesus recently and was profoundly impacted, so I'd like to read about the lives of more Saints but simply don't know where to look and I'm too swamped in school work to spend a lot of time searching. :( Any resources would be appreciated, even if I have to buy them.

    God Bless,
    Dapouf

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    1. Dapouf,
      "Butler's Lives of the Saints" is available on Amazon.

      ---Introibo

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    2. This book is in public domain so you can read it without buying it https://archive.org/details/LightFromTheLowlyV1

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    3. Thank you! I'll definitely check them both out.

      Sincerely,
      Dapouf

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    4. Poni,

      I started the book you sent me and it's great! I choked up on the third story. Thanks once again for the excellent resource, I aim to finish it within two weeks.


      Introibo,

      I looked up the book you sent me on Amazon, but the ones that I looked at were revised version's of the original. If you know anything of this, is it the original or revised edition that you recommend me? (I don't even know if the original is available, but just in case).



      God Bless,
      Dapouf

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    5. Dapouf,
      I saw the "revised" and I won't recommend it now until I have the chance to check it out. Try an old copy on eBay.

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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    6. Introibo,

      I'll be sure to look for it in the near future.

      Thanks,
      Dapouf

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  7. https://archive.org/details/livesofsaintswit02weni/page/448/mode/2up

    Here is the excellent Fr. Weninger, it is Volume 2, if someone has Volume 1, please send link. He also has excellent Sunday sermons:


    https://archive.org/details/originalshortand00weniuoft



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    1. @anon12:59
      Thank you for the link!

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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    2. @anon12:59

      Sorry for the late reply, I had a busy weekend. Thank you very much for the resource, it will prove to be greatly helpful as well!

      God Bless,
      Dapouf

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