Monday, November 29, 2021

The Communion Of Saints

My Dear Readers: This week's post is by Lee. On Thanksgiving, I was grateful for his contributions to my blog! It allowed me to have time with my family and friends and catch up on work. The post, like Lee's last contribution, is an excellent and edifying piece. This month of November began with the Feast of All Saints. Let's end it with meditating on the importance of saints in our lives and how each of us must strive to become a saint himself/herself! 

God bless you all, my dear readers---Introibo.

I Believe in the Communion of Saints
By Lee

In my freshman year of high school, some time ago, a reality check came over me that  was not expected. Frustrated with the amusements of watching football, the contradictions of celebrity lifestyles, and the unimportant things my friends talked about at school, I decided to do something one day which I was not in my habit of doing. In my boredom and on a whim, I went over to my father's book case and thumbed through a few of his books, many of which were not interesting to me at the time. Looking for something that would satisfy my excitement, a book somewhat hidden appeared. On the front it said, Picture Book of Saints. It was a kids book.

Sadly, I knew nothing about any of the saints, nor did I pay much attention in Sunday school class as to who my confirmation saint (St. Anthony of Padua) was other than liking his name. Being ashamed, I started reading the short descriptions of his life and after finishing up, the interest kept growing. After reading a few other saints lives, I became even more curious and eventually read the whole book.

The questions dawned on me. Why am I following athletes, celebrities, or friends in my local community instead of striving to pursue living like the lives of the saints? Where will those heroes of mine go once this life is over? How will they be judged? What do they have to show for before Almighty God? Why aren't they teaching us this at Church or Sunday school? At this point it was clear to me that I have two choices (like we all do); live for this world and most likely be damned forever, or live for God and hopefully get to heaven--like the saints.

Since the saints have had such an effect on my life and my conversion from the beginning, I want to explain why it is an insult to them and the Catholic Church either to believe in Vatican II sect so-called saints or to reject the Church's canonization process as being infallible.  

Church teaching on saints.

According to the Twenty-Fifth Session of the Council of Trent:

The holy Synod enjoins on all bishops, and others who sustain the office and charge of teaching, that, agreeably to the usage of the Catholic and Apostolic Church, received from the primitive times of the Christian religion, and agreeably to the consent of the holy Fathers, and to the decrees of sacred Councils, they especially instruct the faithful diligently concerning the intercession and invocation of saints; the honor (paid) to relics; and the legitimate use of images: teaching them, that the saints, who reign together with Christ, offer up their own prayers to God for men; that it is good and useful suppliantly to invoke them, and to have recourse to their prayers, aid, (and) help for obtaining benefits from God, through His Son, Jesus Christ our Lord, who is our alone Redeemer and Savior; but that they think impiously, who deny that the saints, who enjoy eternal happiness in Heaven, are to be invocated; or who assert either that they do not pray for men; or, that the invocation of them to pray for each of us even in particular, is idolatry; or, that it is repugnant to the word of God; and is opposed to the honor of the one mediator of God and men, Christ Jesus; or, that it is foolish to supplicate, vocally, or mentally, those who reign in Heaven. 

Also, that the holy bodies of holy martyrs, and of others now living with Christ,-which bodies were the living members of Christ, and the temple of the Holy Ghost, and which are by Him to be raised unto eternal life, and to be glorified, are to be venerated by the faithful; through which (bodies) many benefits are bestowed by God on men; so that they who affirm that veneration and honor are not due to the relics of saints; or, that these, and other sacred monuments, are uselessly honored by the faithful; and that the places dedicated to the memories of the saints are in vain visited with the view of obtaining their aid; are wholly to be condemned, as the Church has already long since condemned, and now also condemns them.

Moreover, that the images of Christ, of the Virgin Mother of God, and of the other saints, are to be had and retained particularly in temples, and that due honor and veneration are to be given them; not that any divinity, or virtue, is believed to be in them, on account of which they are to be worshiped; or that anything is to be asked of them; or, that trust is to be reposed in images, as was of old done by the Gentiles who placed their hope in idols; but because the honor which is shown them is referred to the prototypes which those images represent; in such wise that by the images which we kiss, and before which we uncover the head, and prostrate ourselves, we adore Christ; and we venerate the saints, whose similitude they bear: as, by the decrees of Councils, and especially of the second Synod of Nicaea, has been defined against the opponents of images.

And the bishops shall carefully teach this,-that, by means of the histories of the mysteries of our Redemption, portrayed by paintings or other representations, the people is instructed, and confirmed in (the habit of) remembering, and continually revolving in mind the articles of faith; as also that great profit is derived from all sacred images, not only because the people are thereby admonished of the benefits and gifts bestowed upon them by Christ, but also because the miracles which God has performed by means of the saints, and their salutary examples, are set before the eyes of the faithful; that so they may give God thanks for those things; may order their own lives and manners in imitation of the saints; and may be excited to adore and love God, and to cultivate piety. But if any one shall teach, or entertain sentiments, contrary to these decrees; LET HIM BE ANATHEMA...

In fine, let so great care and diligence be used herein by bishops, as that there be nothing seen that is disorderly, or that is unbecomingly or confusedly arranged, nothing that is profane, nothing indecorous, seeing that holiness becometh the house of God.

And that these things may be the more faithfully observed, the holy Synod ordains, that no one be allowed to place, or cause to be placed, any unusual image, in any place, or church, howsoever exempted, except that image have been approved of by the bishop: also, that no new miracles are to be acknowledged, or new relics recognized, unless the said bishop has taken cognizance and approved thereof; who, as soon as he has obtained some certain information in regard to these matters, shall, after having taken the advice of theologians, and of other pious men, act therein as he shall judge to be consonant with truth and piety. But if any doubtful, or difficult abuse has to be extirpated; or, in fine, if any more grave question shall arise touching these matters, the bishop, before deciding the controversy, shall await the sentence of the metropolitan and of the bishops of the province, in a provincial Council; yet so, that nothing new, or that previously has not been usual in the Church, shall be resolved on, without having first consulted the most holy Roman Pontiff.

The problem with Vatican II sect "saints."

Vatican II sect "saints," such as John XXIII, Paul VI, John Paul II, Mother Teresa of Calcutta, Sr. Faustina etc. all have something in common; their lives were the exact opposite of actual saints.

Could anybody imagine for one moment Pope St. Pius X being praised for tolerating or even hobnobbing with Modernists? Or Pope St. Leo the Great telling Atilla the Hun in his famous meeting with him that he and his clan could continue worshiping their deities and taking advice from their soothsayers, while striking a deal for peace? Or St. Peter praying with Simon the magician, for the sake of performing miracles? Or St. Clare of Assisi making an attempt to tell the Moors (Moslems) getting ready to attack her town the same thing Lumen Gentium #16 says, "But the plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator. In the first place amongst these there are the Muslims, who, professing to hold the faith of Abraham, along with us adore the one and merciful God, who on the last day will judge mankind"? 

Could any real Catholic imagine St. Margaret Mary Alacoque claiming that Jesus said this to her "My Will is dearer to you than life. That is why I am uniting Myself with you so intimately as with no other creature... or From today on, do not fear God’s judgment, for you will not be judged... Or after receiving communion say Jesus transform me into another host!…. You are a great and all-powerful Lord; you can grant me this favor.  And the Lord answered me, ‘You are a living host.’

Can anybody fathom putting relics such as St. Francis Xavier's stole with John Paul II's Zoroastrian stole in the same Church, or a Missale Romanum used by St. Alphonsus Liguori placed next to a Koran kissed by John Paul II? Could anybody in their right mind conceive of the idea of putting relics of the True Cross next to the ephod worn by Paul VI? Or how about dedicating a whole new feast day after Easter called Divine Mercy Sunday as a replacement of Low Sunday?

Those who are so lost inside the new religion will probably see nothing wrong with the above mentioned examples if those saints were to do such things, but that is because they are the blind leading the blind. Only Vatican II sect "saints" do such things because it's in accordance with the "spirit of (Robber Council) Vatican II." 

On the flip side, there are many who don't believe they are saints (and rightly so) but nevertheless believe the Vatican II "popes" are true popes and that the Vatican II sect is simultaneously the Catholic Church (wrongfully so). They maintain that canonizations are not infallible because they know if they admit such, it would contradict their beliefs. Regardless of the arguments, if the new sect was the Catholic Church (as they believe) then the literal implication would mean that you may or may not believe whether a person is in fact a saint despite whether the Church says so or not.

Three problems with this:

1. Not only are saints honored and prayed to, but they (along with their relics) are venerated at the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. The same people who deny the infallibility of the canonization of saints are also the same people who hate the Novus Bogus "mass," but consider it to be valid. If the Novus Ordo Mass is valid and it was John Paul II's feast day (Oct. 22), then it would be a matter which would affect the whole Church, since he would be honored by the whole Church in the liturgy. This would lead not only to impiety at the so-called Mass itself, but encourage faithlessness in the authority of the Church for allowing such a monstrosity. 

The Council of Trent says: 

CANON V.--If any one saith, that it is an imposture to celebrate masses in honor of the saints, and for obtaining their intercession with God, as the Church intends; let him be anathema. 

CANON VII.--If any one saith, that the ceremonies, vestments, and outward signs, which the Catholic Church makes use of in the celebration of masses, are incentives to impiety, rather than offices of piety; let him be anathema  

2. If some people in "the Church" believe in the Vatican II saints, and others do not, where is the first Mark of Oneness of the Church or the Unity of Faith? Who is suppose to believe who and how would the faithful know what to believe, when everybody would hold a different opinion?

3. How could anybody not believing in the Vatican II sect saints and at the same time say it's "the Church" not be lying to themselves when they say in the Creed "I believe in the Communion saints?"

Pre-Vatican II Jesuit theologian Fr. Joachim Salaverri explains Church’s teaching on the infallibility of canonizations:

…the end of the infallible Magisterium demands those things that are necessary in order to direct the faithful without error to salvation through the correct worship [=veneration] and imitation of the examples of Christian virtues. But for such a purpose infallibility concerning decrees on the Canonization of Saints is necessary.

[This] is certain, because by the solemn decrees of the Canonization of Saints the Church not only tolerates and permits, but also commends and instructs the whole flock of the faithful that certain definite Saints whom it canonizes are to be honored, and it proposes them as examples of virtue who are worthy of imitation. But the mere possibility of error in such a solemn declaration would take away all confidence from the faithful and fundamentally would destroy the whole cult of the Saints; because [then] it could happen that the Church would solemnly propose to all and mandate that condemned and evil men perpetually should be honored. Therefore, in order to direct the faithful without error to salvation through correct worship and imitation of the examples of Christian virtues, infallibility is necessary concerning the solemn decrees of the Canonization of Saints.

(See Fr. Joachim Salaverri, Sacrae Theologiae Summa IB: On the Church of Christ, trans. by Fr. Kenneth Baker [original Latin published by BAC, [1955]). 


Conclusion
The Catholic Church has always had the authority and protection from the Holy Ghost to declare anybody it deems fit to truly be in Heaven with God and His angels as saints. When we say "I believe in the communion of saints," we not only believe in the Church's power to declare them such, but also believe in their powerful intercession on our behalf, the miracles they have (or can) perform if it be God's Will, and that they make up the Church Triumphant in Heaven due to their virtuous life on earth. We also venerate them and honor their memory.

The New (Novus Ordo) Church, Vatican II sect, Conciliar Church, The Counterfeit Church, or as Joe Biden would probably call it, "The thing," not only loves to mingle with other religions but also mingle false saints with true ones, which is of Anti-Christ. Those in the R&R position need to humble themselves like the true saints known to them and abandon the false "Church" which is none other than an ape church. This is not only what a real Catholic would do, but also a saint.

Blessed be God in His Angels and in His Saints.


 

29 comments:

  1. Very good post, Lee ! Let's reject the false saints of V2 sect and the V2 sect itself !

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    1. Simon,

      I once called in on a Novus Ordo "Catholic" radio and asked the host of the show if he believed that the Koran that John Paul II kissed was a relic of the Catholic Church since it was touched by a "saint" and his answer was maybe but that he had never thought about it before and then proceeded to cut the call off.

      The Novus Ordo Church is pathetic.

      Lee

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    2. Lee,
      Brilliant question! No wonder he hung up--you had him speechless!

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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    3. The V2 sect undoubtedly considers the Koran as a "holy book", given the respect of this villainous sect for the false religion of Islam.

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  2. Lee,

    Another great post! If I may add, in the Divine Praises it is also said "Blessed be God in His Angels and in His Saints." I guess the R&R would say "Blessed be God in His Angels and in His Saints, some of whom I don't consider Saints even though Holy Mother Church has said so because I don't like them."

    A bunch of rebellious children they are.

    God Bless,
    Dapouf

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    1. Dapouf,

      Thank you for the comment.

      They're more than rebellious. They're flat out heretics who deny in the ninth article of the Apostle's Creed. If the Church can err in its declaration of saints as they believe, but won't admit, then the Church is defective and is no different than any other Protestant religion. Impossible!

      Lee

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    2. Lee,
      Yet those like $teve $kojec believe just that--a Church that can defect and HE knows better than the Church founded by Christ! What a joke.

      ---Introibo

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    3. Lee,

      Right you are.

      God Bless,
      Dapouf

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    4. Pray for Trad-Catholic unity and to stop this non-stop arguing amongst R+R and Sedevacantists.
      We don't have a Pope nor Hierarchy so our opinions are just that,opinions.
      You think the average Novus Ordo type or non-Catholic knows about R+R vs. Sedevacantist?
      We should try and work together as valid Holy Sacrifice of the Mass and Sacraments are much more important at this time.
      Gof bless -Andrew

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    5. Andrew,

      We should rather pray that all R&R and some sedevacantist stop the non-stop profession of heresy and error.

      We may not have a pope, but we do have popes and theologians/saints from the past that we should believe in. Our opinions are not necessarily opinions depending on what we are talking about if it is touching dogma or doctrine.

      The only way we can work together is if R&R and some sedevacantist become humble, renounce their errors once they see them, and embrace what is truly Catholic. It's that simple, but yet people make it complicated.

      Lee

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    6. Andrew,

      I agree with Lee on this one. We should pray incessantly for all whom you mentioned, but our differences are not just on opinion.

      The doctrines of the R&R are most pernicious and lead countless who are on the verge of abandoning the Vatican II sect into new errors rather than adopting the authentic Catholic Faith. The doctrines of the R&R are foreign to Catholicism and overthrow the Catholic notion of obedience, making themselves the ultimate arbiters of Truth. I can only recognize the hand of the Evil One in these doctrines. The same one who arrogantly dared to speak the words "Non serviam".

      On the comment of the Sacraments, I agree that they are of the utmost importance, but the situation can be likened to what we have with the Eastern Orthodox. Valid mass, valid sacraments, yet not the Catholic Faith held "whole and inviolate". Thus, let us pray fervently for those well-disposed minds who earnestly seek the Catholic Faith, that God in His Mercy may lead them out of the errors of evil men.

      God Bless,
      Dapouf

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  3. Excellent, Lee!
    Thank you for your insights on the subject of the Saints.
    It is so nice to contemplate on, November being the month of the Souls in Purgatory, but somehow I think of it as a Month of Saints waiting patiently, crying out in the wings of Heaven to finally make their entrance into it for all eternity.

    -Jannie

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    1. Jannie,
      Good way to think of Purgatory!

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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    2. Jannie,

      One thing that used to bother me was when some people scoffed the idea of imitating the saints as if trying to be holy was a bad thing. It's true that some people have the holier than thou attitude when in reality they are just being hypocrites without realizing it but the saints were true models of humility and have set the example.

      Lee

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    3. Yes, there is this tendency to denigrate the value of the lives of the saints for the so-called modern man as "that was then, and this is now", as if these holy men and women lived on a different planet, and did not struggle with the 'modern' issues that make our lives miserable. The thing is, the more you read about the saints, the more you realize that immorality of any kind is actually not a unique construct of today's world (granted, it's permeated every aspect of our lives), and, most importantly, the saints were victorious (by the grace of God) over the same vices we find ourselves ensnared in.

      God Bless,
      Joanna

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    4. They want you to be like Dementia Joe. Always sleeping and never answering the calls of God.

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  4. 1: Good post Lee.
    2: I made an article on Harry Potter https://quisutdeusinenglish.blogspot.com/2021/11/millstones-in-road-xii-7-facts-about.html
    Did you know L'Osservatore romano praised two of the films?

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    1. Poni,
      Yes, the Vatican II sect praises a movie that portrays witchcraft as being "good," and promotes moral relativism. I wish I could say I was shocked, but it's the usual garbage I've come to expect from Bergoglio's sect.

      Good post!

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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    2. Poni,

      Good article. I've never seen any of the movies or read the books.

      Here is something that might interest you: https://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/c046_Wizards.htm

      Lee

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    3. The post talked about a Christmas party. I don't understand Harry Potter fans' uncanny fixation with Christmas.

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  5. Thank you Lee! It is of Sr. Faustina I have to speak of now. She was censured by the Holy Office during the reign of Pius XI, and "rehabilitated" by JP2; yet some people I know continue to take her messages seriously. Despite the fact that I point out nothing can be added after Our Lady of Fatima. (There may be a couple between 1917 and 1958; but unless these were approved before 1958, I say no).

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    1. cairsahr_stjoseph,

      to me, the fact that the 'Divine Mercy' hoax originated in my country, is a source of great shame. Polish bishops were ordered by the Holy Office to dispose of every image that had already been placed in churches and chapels for public veneration, yet they did not comply with that decree. The false devotion was spreading like a disease. Talk about obedience!

      God Bless,
      Joanna S.

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    2. That was, I guess, a symptom of the infiltration of the Church which culminated in 1958. But the Poles ought not to be ashamed; they defended Vienna and did many other things besides; and may yet do more! God bless!+JMJ+

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    3. My concern is that the powers that think they are will look as these and call it "white supremacy" as if it is bad to be "European nations". It is so very close to being like that. In fact we're already there.

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    4. Joanna S.

      Every country in the post Vatican II era has something that puts them in the hall of shame but it is due to the great apostasy which we are living in.

      Your country has some great saints to be proud of and has endured much suffering in years past.

      There is nothing that brings out the Novus Ordo more than the Divine Mercy devotions. They sound good at first but it promises lots of spiritual rewards with no requirement of penance, no mention of reparation, no mention of any condition. In other words, unconditional mercy. Sr. Faustina's diary was placed on the index of forbidden books not just because of the message, but because of examples I used in the article above referring to if St. Margaret Mary would dare say what Sr. Faustina said. Then it gets lifted from the index while the index itself gets completely abolished by none other than "St." Paul VI.

      To that I say: Most Sacred Heart of Jesus, Have mercy on us!

      Lee

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    5. Here is a post of CMRI about Faustina's "Divine Mercy".

      https://cmri.org/articles-on-the-traditional-catholic-faith/the-divine-mercy-devotion-why-did-the-holy-office-ban-it/

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    6. Joanna and Simon,
      See my post:

      http://introiboadaltaredei2.blogspot.com/2017/03/promises-promises.html

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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    7. Yes, we have to be careful with "promises" because we know the one who made false promises to our first parents: "No, you will not die!"

      I already prayed the Rosary of "Saint" Faustina when I was in the Novus Ordo but I rejected everything associated with the V2 sect and now I pray the traditional Rosary a few times. I'm not a fan of devotions or private revelations but if they can help, that's fine.

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    8. "If I did not pray my rosary for even one day, I would fear for my eternal salvation."

      - St. Alphonsus Liguori

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