Monday, June 12, 2023

Vatican II And The Denigration Of Sacred Tradition

 


The One True Church of Christ has two sources of the Deposit of Revelation, the Holy Bible and Sacred Tradition. The Modernists, ever seeking to undermine the Church, began to attack Sacred Tradition under the guise of "giving the reverence due to the Bible." It was from the Modernists' desire for ecumenism and a one-world church that this endeavor began. In the 1930s, a movement of Modernist theologians, began what is called the nouvelle theologie (French for "new theology") which claimed a need to "return to the sources" (called ressourcement) and "rejuvenate" Catholicism. They believed that the Church had moved away from the way things were, and should have remained. This idea blasphemously asserts that the Holy Ghost was not moving the Church into a clearer understanding of truth, but rather moving away from truth.

All theologians who ascribed to the "new theology" had one thing in common: a bitter hatred for Neo-Scholastic philosophy and the method of St. Thomas Aquinas. As enemies of the Church, it makes sense. As the great Pope Leo XIII wrote:

A last triumph was reserved for this incomparable man [Aquinas]-namely, to compel the homage, praise, and admiration of even the very enemies of the Catholic name. For it has come to light that there were not lacking among the leaders of heretical sects some who openly declared that, if the teaching of Thomas Aquinas were only taken away, they could easily battle with all Catholic teachers, gain the victory, and abolish the Church. (See Aeterni Patris para. #23; Emphasis mine).

At Vatican II, these heretical theologians, being rehabilitated and even exalted under Roncalli ("Pope" John XXIII), would go on to give a false status of Sacred Tradition, and make the Vatican II sect more palatable to Protestant heretics. This post will expose the successful plot at Vatican II, and how they perverted the authentic notion of Sacred Tradition.

The Original Schema on The Two Sources of Divine Revelation
The original draft on Divine Revelation was drafted primarily by the theologians of the Supreme Sacred Congregation of the Holy Office under the direction of the Anti-Modernist Alfredo Cardinal Ottaviani. A draft is known by the name schema. Thanks to the work of Joseph A. Komonchack (a V2 sect "priest"), the schema has been translated by him into English. Although this schema carries no Magisterial authority at all (as it was never passed), it nevertheless shows what the most erudite, orthodox, approved theologians taught on the subject, and furthermore believed that it was ripe for being defined by the Church. Called the DOGMATIC CONSTITUTION ON THE SOURCES OF REVELATION (Constitutionis Dogmaticae de Fontibus Revelationis), the pertinent parts are reproduced below:

4. The Twofold Source of Revelation.
Instructed by the commands and examples of Christ and of the Apostles, therefore, Holy Mother Church has always believed and believes still that the complete revelation is not contained in Scripture alone but in Scripture and in Tradition as in a twofold source, although in different ways. Besides containing what was revealed, the books of the Old and New Testaments were also written under the inspiration of the Holy Ghost, so that they have God as their author. But truly, divine Tradition, preserved in the Church by a continuous succession, contains all the matters of faith and morals which the Apostles received either from the mouth of Christ or from the suggestions of the Holy Ghost and which they transmitted, outside Holy Scripture as it were, by hand to the Church so that in it they might be handed on further by the Church's preaching.

Therefore, the things which divine Tradition contains by itself [ratione sui] are drawn not from books, but from the Church's living preaching, from the faith of believers, and from the Church's practice. As for things belonging to the past, many are known from various written, although not inspired, documents.

5. The Relationship between the Two Sources.
Let no one, therefore, dare to consider Tradition to be of inferior worth or refuse it his faith. For although Holy Scripture, since it is inspired, provides a divine instrument for expressing and illustrating the truths of faith, still its meaning can be clearly and fully understood or even presented only by means of the apostolic Tradition. Indeed, Tradition and it alone is the way in which some revealed truths, particularly those concerned with the inspiration, canonicity and integrity of each and every sacred book, are clarified and become known to the Church.

6. The Relationship of Each Source to the Magisterium.
In order that the two sources of revelation might harmoniously and more effectively work together for the salvation of man, the provident Lord handed them over, as a single deposit of faith to be kept safe and defended and authoritatively interpreted, not to individual believers, however learned, but to the Church's living Magisterium alone.

It is the responsibility of the Church's Magisterium, as the proximate and universal norm for believing, not only to pass judgement, having made use of the means which divine providence offers, in matters directly or indirectly concerning faith and morals, on the meaning and interpretation both of the Holy Scriptures and also of the documents and monuments in which the Tradition has in the course of time been recorded and manifested, but also to illustrate and to explain those things which are obscurely and implicitly contained in each source. (Emphasis mine; Emphasis on the words "clearly" and "fully" in original). 

It was presented at the Robber Council. The Modernist cardinals and theologians from northern Europe argued that the Bible is the source of all revelation, and Tradition is the theological explanation and interpretation of what Scripture explicitly states or directly implies. Tradition is the authentic teaching of the Church, but that teaching does not include revelation not already in the Bible. Scripture is the norm to which all doctrine and teaching submits. This one-source position of the  Bible, which is officially interpreted by the Church, is very close to the Protestant sola scriptura heresy. 

The usual list of Modernists spoke out against the schema and wanted it scrapped:
  •  Cardinal Achille Lienart of France (Abp. Lefebvre's ordaining/consecrating bishop) said that the schema misconstrued what the Council of Trent said about the relationship of Scripture and Tradition; and faith was "based not on academic arguments" but on the Word of God
  • The ringleader of the Modernists at the Council, Cardinal Joseph Frings of Germany, said that in this document one hears "not the voice of the good shepherd but the voice of a professor in the textbooks of the 19th century"
  • Cardinal Joseph Ritter of St. Louis, USA, argued that the document was "filled with pessimism and negativity" and threw suspicion on the work of Catholic exegetes
  • Frings had his peritus (theological expert) Fr. Joseph Ratzinger (later to become false "Pope" Benedict XVI) address the Council: Father Ratzinger’s concerns started with the title, which suggested that revelation included multiple sources (Scripture, Tradition and Magisterium), rather than one source with multiple expressions. Father Ratzinger traced the proper single-source understanding back to Trent, observing that the concept had become clouded in the Neo-Scholasticism that dominated seminary training following Vatican I. 
(See https://www.ncregister.com/news/dei-verbum-moved-the-bible-to-the-center-of-catholic-life#:~:text=The%20work%20of%20theologians%20Henri,the%20teachings%20of%20the%20Church; on Ratzinger; Emphasis mine). 

The Council voted to reject the schema, but the rules of the Council only permitted a schema to be wholesale rejected if there was a negative vote of two-thirds, which the Modernists did not have. At the behest of the heretics, Roncalli intervened and changed the rule so that only a simple majority vote in the negative would reject a schema. A Modernist victory was had. A new schema would be drawn up, and three heretical theologians were to be the primary authors.

An Unholy Theological Trinity
Anti-Modernist theologians (which included Fr. DePauw) were blacklisted from having any say in the new schema. Frings and Roncalli made sure truly Catholic theologians and prelates would be marginalized. As Fr. DePauw had told me (and confirmed by an article in the 1963 American Ecclesiastical Review, "Are All Revealed Truths In Sacred Scripture?" by theologian Francis Connell, May, pgs. 303-314), three periti had say over most of the new schema that would become the heretical Dogmatic Constitution on Divine Revelation, Dei Verbum. A brief overview of each will show the type of heretic writing the new teaching of the Vatican II sect. 

Fr. Jean Danielou (1905-1974). 
  • his father hated the Church
  • ordained a Jesuit priest in 1938
  • received his doctorate in Sacred Theology in 1943
  • became Professor of the History of Christian Antiquity
  • was suspect of Modernism for suggesting Universalism (all are saved)
  • strong proponent of nouvelle theologie
  • made "Cardinal" by Montini in 1969
  • died at the home of a prostitute in 1974, and his defenders say he was giving her money "to help her since she was poor"
Fr. Henri de Lubac (1896-1991).
  • ordained in 1927 as a Jesuit
  • received his doctorate in Sacred Theology in 1929, without ever attending classes or submitting a dissertation, due to his connection with the General Superior of the Jesuits who liked and advanced his ideas
  • became Professor of Fundamental Theology and taught Jean Danielou
  • removed by Rome from his teaching position, and in 1950 three of his books were censured by the Holy Office for teaching "pernicious errors on essential points of dogma"
  • the great encyclical of Pope Pius XII, Humani Generis, was drafted by Anti-Modernist Fr. Reginald Garrigou-Lagrange, and condemned de Lubac's errors and those of the nouvelle theologie
  • strong proponent of nouvelle theologie
  • even while under censorship, he wrote (but did not publish) three books praising pagan Buddhism
  • was rehabilitated in 1959 under Roncalli
  • began writing in defense of notorious apostate, Darwinist, and racist Teilhard de Chardin
  • made "cardinal" by Wojtyla
Fr. Yves Congar (1904-1995).
  • ordained a Dominican priest in 1930
  • in 1931 completed his Doctorate in Sacred Theology
  • became Professor of Fundamental Theology
  • in 1938 summoned to appear before the Dominican General Superior on suspicion of teaching salvation can be obtained outside the Church in any religion, and on suspicion of Modernism
  • in 1954, Pope Pius XII condemned him for an article he wrote in defense of the "Worker-Priest" movement
  • subsequently forbidden to "teach, preach, or publish"
  • strong proponent of nouvelle theologie
  • promoted the heresy that all validly baptized adults are Catholic
  • promoted the heresy of the "priesthood of all believers"
  • rehabilitated in 1959 under Roncalli
  • made a "cardinal" by Wojtyla
Sacred Tradition in Dei Verbum
In his 1963 article (referenced supra), theologian Connell was dismayed at how the rehabilitated heretics hold that all revealed truth is contained in the Bible explicitly and totally. Some doctrines are in the Scriptures only by implication and allusion, and Divine Tradition is merely there in order that the Church can discern the full meaning of what is in the Bible. In this view, Tradition is not really a source of revelation, but rather a tool to fully understanding Scripture. 

That view came out in Dei Verbum, promulgated by Montini (Paul VI) on November 18, 1965.  Paragraph #9 reads as follows:

9. Hence there exists a close connection and communication between sacred tradition and Sacred Scripture. For both of them, flowing from the same divine wellspring, in a certain way merge into a unity and tend toward the same end. For Sacred Scripture is the word of God inasmuch as it is consigned to writing under the inspiration of the divine Spirit, while sacred tradition takes the word of God entrusted by Christ the Lord and the Holy Spirit to the Apostles, and hands it on to their successors in its full purity, so that led by the light of the Spirit of truth, they may in proclaiming it preserve this word of God faithfully, explain it, and make it more widely known. Consequently it is not from Sacred Scripture alone that the Church draws her certainty about everything which has been revealed. Therefore both sacred tradition and Sacred Scripture are to be accepted and venerated with the same sense of loyalty and reverence. (Emphasis mine). 

The view of Tradition as "that which makes Scripture fully explained" and not containing truth in and of itself apart from the Bible. There cannot said to be two sources of revelation, but only one--just as Protestants believe. 

More disturbing is paragraph #8:
This tradition which comes from the Apostles develop in the Church with the help of the Holy Spirit. For there is a growth in the understanding of the realities and the words which have been handed down. This happens through the contemplation and study made by believers, who treasure these things in their hearts through a penetrating understanding of the spiritual realities which they experience, and through the preaching of those who have received through Episcopal succession the sure gift of truth. For as the centuries succeed one another, the Church constantly moves forward toward the fullness of divine truth until the words of God reach their complete fulfillment in her. (Emphasis mine). 

This teaches the heresy that Tradition, which guards the Deposit of Faith from the time of the Apostles' preaching, does not already possess "the fullness of divine truth." In the reading of paragraph #9, one is led to believe there might be something else to be added or that what is already there can be modified. In turn, this error is connected to "subjectivism"-the signature of modern thinking-typified by the "New Theology," of which the idea is that everything is always moving in a continual upward progression, and that absolute truth does not exist, rather, only the endless tending of a subject toward a truth whose endpoint is himself.

The import of this view was not lost on Protestants. Rev. Jaroslav Pelican, a Lutheran theologian, is quoted by Fr. Connell as declaring that if this view should prevail (which it did), "... if Tradition is exegetical, Roman Catholic theology must admit that sola scriptura, properly understood, is correct."

Sacred Tradition is a True and Separate Source of Revelation
The Anti-Modernist theologians, like Fr. Connell, did a masterful job of pointing out the error of the Modernists on Sacred Tradition. Despite the valiant attempts of  theologians like DePauw, Fenton, and prelates like Ottaviani and Kurz, the Modernists had Roncalli as their ally and could not be stopped. Nevertheless, their arguments show forth the truth. Fr. Connell cites the teachings of some of the greatest approved theologians regarding Sacred Tradition:

St. Robert Bellarmine: "It is necessary to know that there are some books that are truly divine, and this certainly cannot be had from Scriptures...Hence, this is so necessary a dogma, that there is divine Scripture, cannot be sufficiently had from Scripture alone. Accordingly, since faith is based on the Word of God, we shall have no faith unless we have the unwritten Word of God."

St. Alphonsus Liguori: "Traditions are those truths which were first communicated by Jesus Christ or by the Holy Ghost to the Apostles, then by the Apostles were given to the disciples, and thus under the guidance of the Holy Ghost without interruption were, so to say, transmitted by hand and communicated up to the present time. These Traditions, which are the unwritten Word of God...Traditions are necessary that belief may be given to many articles of Faith...about which nothing at all exists in Scriptures, so that these truths have come to us only in the font of Tradition."

[Theologian] Bergier: "The great question between Protestants and Catholics is to know if there are some divine or apostolic Traditions touching dogmas which are in no wise contained in Sacred Scripture, and which are nevertheless a rule of faith. Protestants deny it, we sustain the opposite."

 [Theologian] Liebermann: "Sacred Scripture is not perfect in the sense that it embraces the whole religion of Christ. If Scripture were perfect and the only source of Christian doctrine, it should, before all, tell us which books belong to Sacred Scripture. But it is entirely silent about this dogma of supreme importance."

[Theologian] Franzelin: "After the Apostles and after the completion of the inspired writings the Church propagated by the Apostles always professed, theoretically and practically, that some truths are divinely revealed which She had received, not from Scripture, but only from Tradition.

[Theologian] Tanquerey : "There exists divine Tradition, as a font of revelation distinct from Scripture." This he says, is de fide. 

[Theologian] Van Noort: "Tradition is a source of revelation distinct from Scripture, and goes beyond the data of Scripture. This is a dogma of faith from the Council of Trent and the Vatican Council [of 1870]." 
 (Internal citations omitted; all emphasis mine). 

The Modernists would point out that that the truths of revelation are contained in written books and unwritten Tradition, a statement that does not include in itself the notion of a separation into two distinct and somewhat unrelated sources. Chapter three of the 1870 Vatican Council's Constitution on the Catholic Faith (Dei Filius) gives the lie to that contention:

Further, all those things are to be believed with divine and catholic faith which are contained in the Word of God, written or handed down, and which the Church, either by a solemn judgment, or by her ordinary and universal Magisterium, proposes for belief as having been Divinely-revealed.

Here it is clear by the conjunction "or" that there are some articles of divine-Catholic faith, not in Scripture, but are in Sacred Tradition. Moreover, in Humani Generis, Pope Pius XII writes on the sources of revelation and of both sources of revealed doctrine. 

Finally, what of Ratzinger's charge that implied seeing the Bible and Sacred Tradition as two sources of revelation only came about since the Council of Trent, and most especially after the Vatican Council of 1870? Did the theologians unanimously teach what Vatican II teaches prior to Trent? In a word: NO!

First, if that were true, that would mean the Church taught error (indeed heresy if held unanimously) going against the Universal and Ordinary Magisterium beginning with Trent and going forward for four centuries unstopped and unrecognized. That is an implicit denial of the dogma of the Indefectibility of the Church. 

Second, there is no proof that the Modernist "single source" theory was ever taught unanimously. The statements of some Fathers and approved theologians have been interpreted as upholding the two sources of revelation (see especially theologians Franzelin, Tanquerey, Salaverri, and Van Noort).

Conclusion
Vatican II has given the sect it produced a definition of Sacred Tradition which robs it of its true meaning and scope. Everything is reduced to the Bible, and Tradition is merely an exegetical tool. It is not far from sola scriptura, the way the Modernists wanted it. That's why the original schema had to go. The only "tradition" held by Modernism is the love of ecumenism and novelty. 

40 comments:

  1. Very interesting, Introibo! We can see that the plot to destroy the Church has deep roots. I think we can say that modernists are spiritual cousins of Protestants.

    On Fr. Congar, it has been reported that he urinated on the wall of the building of the Holy Office, as if he wanted to show thereby the contempt he had for this institution and the traditional teaching of the Church.

    https://novusordowatch.org/2016/06/congar-urinated-on-holy-office-wall/

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    1. Simon,
      Congar was certainly a miscreant. Thank you for sharing the link. I wish I could say I'm surprised, but I'm not.

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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  2. Great writing Introibo.You do a great job of exposing the apostate church of Vatican Two.

    Do you recommend wearing the five fold scapular.I only wear the brown with a St Benedict medal and a crucifix

    Besides your very large personal library,do you have many statues,etc in your house?Every home should have a home altar with statues,etc.Correct.God bless

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    1. @anon6:11
      Thank you for the kind words, my friend!

      I do recommend the Five-Fold Scapular which, I'm sure you know, contains the Brown Scapular. I'm of the opinion that during this time of Great Apostasy, we need to make use of ALL means of obtaining graces given us by Holy Mother Church. Home altars, statues, relics, holy water, etc. should be used to get every grace we possibly can. It is a war for our immortal soul. Why would anyone want to fight a war without all the ammunition they can get?

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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  3. Thank you Introibo.Do you have many statues,relics,etc in your home?Do you also recommend burning incense in a thurible or brazier at special times.What brand of church incense do you suggest.God bless

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    1. @anon8:29
      Yes, I have many statues and relics. I don't use incense. Here in NYC it can cause you to be fined if used in the home depending on the type of dwelling. Only Churches may use it unhindered.

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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  4. Do you Introibo have the writings of Matthias Joseph Scheeben(lived from 1835-1888?Yours thoughts on him.

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    1. @anon10:36
      I have most of theologian Scheeben's works. They are very good, although not written as most approved theologians tend to write.

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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  5. I have never heard of the theologians Franzelian,Salaverri and Van Noort.Did they write many works and are they available?Do you Introibo have their complete works?What do you think of the works of Pohle-Preuss on Dogmatic theology and do you have their complete works too?Thank you and God bless

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    1. @anon1:39
      Van Noort's three volumes on Dogmatic Theology are available in English (check Ebay). The key dogmatic work of Salaverri are contained in the "Sacrae Theologiae Summa" volumes available on Amazon in English. There are some works of Franzelin available in English. I have the complete 12 volumes on Dogmatic Theology by theologian Pohle.

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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    2. This explains why your posts are always relevant: you have good reference books !

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    3. Simon,
      Yes, a personal library of just over 6,000 titles certainly helps!

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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    4. I should have read less science books and more books on Catholicism but I learn a lot by coming to this blog and also to Novus Ordo Watch. Knowing the basics of faith is essential during the Great Apostasy. If Catholics had learned their religion better, there probably wouldn't have been Vatican II.

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    5. Simon;

      At least you read science books and not books on the occult.

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    6. Simon,
      Knowing a lot about science can lead you to discover the harmony between theology and the natural order--that's always a good thing!

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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    7. My interest in science went away when I realized it didn't make the world a better place. We explore the universe and the infinitely small but that has not brought people closer to God. On the contrary, immorality seems to have progressed in proportion to scientific discoveries. People were made to believe that man descended from monkeys so they concluded that the origin of man is not divine, that God does not exist and that there will be no reward or punishment for actions taken in this life. This explains why we see women claiming the right to kill their unborn child and other people expressing their pride in committing the sin against nature. Here, in Quebec, some call "Great Darkness" the period preceding the 1960s, when Catholicism enlightened the world. Now that the Church is eclipsed, I think we are truly in the Great Darkness.

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    8. Wonderful comment, Simon. "Great Darkness" of pre-Vatican II, yes, very ironic.
      -S.T.

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    9. It started with the "Enlightenment" in the 18th century. We see how false lights these are. Jesus is the true Light but people reject him...

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  6. Thank you.Do you have any other major works on Theology.What about Mystical and ascetical Theology.God bless you my friend.

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    1. @anon3:32
      Yes. Off the top of my head, I know I have The Theology of the Spiritual Life by theologian de Guibert, the unabridged volumes of The Three Ages of the Interior Life by theologian Garrigou-Lagrange, and The Spiritual Life by theologian Tanquerey.

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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  7. Can you imagine Introibo what those good men who wrote those works would think of the trash in the Apostate sect of Vatican Two.They would say that is not the true Church of Jesus Christ.

    K
    Wanganui,NZ

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    1. K,
      That's exactly what they would say--and why I'm a sedevacantist!!

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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  8. Do you have the complete works of Saint Alponisus Liguori Introibo?

    James

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    1. James,
      I'm not sure, but I have a whole shelf of his works! If not all of them, I'm probably pretty close.

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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  9. Hello Introibo:

    A while back, a question was asked about if a traditional Catholic priest would be willing to bring the sacraments to somebody who could get to Mass rarely or not at all.

    You said that a Traditionalist priest should have no problem bringing the person the sacraments.

    You have said that you go to SSPV. Do you think that they would be willing to give somebody the sacraments like that?

    Thank you. Anonymous

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    1. @anon11:22
      In my opinion, the SSPV would accommodate such a person, provided they are within a reasonable distance of where they are located (preferably on the way or near someone else to whom they give the Sacraments).

      A reasonable distance would be about 60 to 90 minutes away by car. If they have to travel, e.g., 250 miles one way, that would not be reasonable unless the person needed the Last Rites.

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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  10. Hello Introibo:

    1. If the Novus Ordo approved same sex marriage, what do you think would happen? Would some people stay in the Novus Ordo, or would some people go to Traditionalist chapels?

    2. I have seen more things lately about how being single is supposedly "bad", and that it's somehow "wrong" if somebody is not married (or in the religious life). Also, I saw something where somebody said that a single person is "disqualified" from running for public office! What do you think about single people running for public office?

    3. You said a while back that you believe that the Israelis are persecuting the Palestinians. What do think that a traditional Catholic would be allowed to do to support Palestinians?

    Thank you. Anonymous

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    1. @anon5:10
      1. I can, obviously, only speculate. I think a good number would leave, not necessarily to become Traditionalists, but to join a conservative Protestant sect. Some might lose their faith altogether, and some would become Traditionalists. There is so much acceptance of sodomites today, I'm willing to bet just over half stay in the sect, and will be happy ("gay") about it.

      2. I think a single person running for public office would be great as he/she is not distracted by a spouse and children, so they can be more attentive to the needs of their constituents. It's one of the benefits of the single vocation.

      3. I guess you can do whatever you like. Write a letter to the editor, join a protest, donate money to a cause for them.

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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  11. I am so glad you are on our side. When Apoc. 13 comes (we will battle as in verses 6-7) this is the sort of thing we can use. And many will come to the Faith. Pray continue and I hope you and Lee will continue for as long as necessary. Otherwise I don't really have a comment except I agree

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    1. cairsahr_stjoseph,
      Thank you for the kind words my friend. Comments like yours keep me writing!

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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  12. I never heard of "Fr. Danielou". Congar, de Lubac and what's his name who had "Animus Dilendi" (That was a book written about him by someone else but this was 20 years ago; I don't remember). At any rate, these V2 "periti" are the most unfortunate wretches ever.

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    1. cairsahr_stjoseph,
      The Modernist periti and their Bishops sent the Church "underground," so to speak, and spawned the Vatican II sect.

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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  13. Hello Introibo:

    1. If a person wants to become a traditional Catholic, but they are financially dependent on the Novus Ordo, what do you suggest that the person do?

    2. Do you think that 5 miles (or less!) out of the way of a route DIRECTLY between chapels that a priest travels between on a regular basis, is reasonable to ask the priest to bring somebody the sacraments? If the priest refuses that, what should a person do?

    Thank you. Anonymous

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    1. @anon6:17
      1. They should find employment elsewhere and become Traditionalists.

      2. I think it is very reasonable. If the priest refuses, I call into question his vocation--the salvation of souls. If he haas a superior, I would appeal to him. If not, I would denounce him, by writing a letter to the local paper or putting something on the Internet. You cannot be sued for telling the truth.

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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    2. Hello Introibo:

      1. What if the person needs charitable financial assistance, and is dependent on the Novus Ordo for that?

      2. What if the priest's superior won't help the person either? And what if the person does not want to denounce the priest by going public, because they are afraid of retaliation?

      Thank you. Anonymous

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    3. @anon11:09
      1. You can practice the True Faith in private and no one needs to know where you go on Sunday.

      2. I can't imagine what kind of "retaliation" there could be. False statements by the priests can be met with a deformation lawsuit. You also need to see if there's another priest who will be a Good Shepard. Fr. Oswalt, a former Vatican II sect "priest," became sedevacantist and was ordained by Bp. Pivarunas. He travels very long distances to bring the sacraments to Traditionalists not near any Chapel or Church. I'm sure he's not the only good priest doing so.

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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  14. Can you do a brief blog entry on Apostolic Succession disappearing soon with the death of the last 10 remaining pre-June 1968 Roman Rite Bishops? Pray 1 or more of them trad-Rite conditionally Ordains Consecrates some decent well intentioned Novus Ordo clerics.
    God bless -Andrew

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    1. Apostolic Succession disappearing within Rome*. Thuc Lefebvre Mendez lines are valid.

      -Andrew

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  15. Introibo,

    Thank you for writing this and illustrating more evidence of the evil council.

    “Roncalli intervened and changed the rule so that only a simple majority vote in the negative would reject a schema” – if the established rule doesn’t work for you, no problem, change it! After all, you’re the “pope”.

    “…one-source position of the Bible, which is officially interpreted by the Church, is very close to the Protestant sola scriptura heresy” – all by design it seems, change the Church’s position on the deposit of Faith, change the Mass… make the protestants as happy and comfortable as possible (and thinking of Lee’s last post, don’t forget to please the Jews!).

    Wow, the backgrounds of those periti are just incredible. It’s almost like a make-believe story, when you read it. Clown planet. De Lubac’s using his connection to get his doctorate in the manner he did degrades the degree. Shameful on the part of whoever the General Superior was. It’s hard to pick who had the worst background, but I’m going with de Lubac. Although Congar makes a good showing with his history of papal censure!

    At the end of Dei Verbum, “…Therefore both sacred tradition and Sacred Scripture are to be accepted and venerated with the same sense of loyalty and reverence.” This reminds me of the drop of poison lesson from Pope Leo XIII (although it’s more like a drop of truth in a cup of poison). Throw in a statement that satisfies the orthodox, and despite all the erroneous statements, many will still be appeased.

    A blessed Father’s day to all the fathers. St. Joseph, pray for us. All for Jesus, all through Mary, all in imitation of thee, O blessed patriarch Joseph.

    -Seeking Truth

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    1. Seeking Truth,
      Happy Father's Day, my friend! Thank you, as always, for commenting!

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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