- The existence and attributes of God
- The truth of the One True Church established by Christ for the salvation of all
- The truth of a particular dogma or doctrine of the Church
- The truth of Catholic moral teaching
- The truth of the sedevacantist position as the only Catholic solution to what has happened since Vatican II
Who Created God?
Everyone who believes in the Christian concept of God, has no doubt heard, at one time or another, "If God created the universe, then who created God?" Inquisitive children, as well as adult skeptics and atheists, will ask this question. Children ask in innocence, and atheists ask in an attempt to confound Christians. After all, if everything needs an explanation of its existence, wouldn't it be the fallacy of special pleading to exempt God from that rule? Hence, if God needs an explanation of His existence, there is something greater than God, and the entire concept of God collapses. You have an infinite regress of causation, with nothing that is ultimate.
This post will explain how to answer that question when confronted by enemies of the Faith. Besides the citations herein, I give credit to the numerous philosophers and theologians I have read both online and in books. I give all these intellectual giants full credit and attribution for the content of this post.---Introibo
God: The Uncaused Cause
Noted Cambridge physicist Stephen Hawking (d. 2018), in his book A Brief History of Time, asks questions about what started the universe and what makes the universe continue to exist. What theory exists to unify everything? “Or does it need a creator, and, if so, does he have any other effect on the universe? And who created him?” (See A Brief History of Time, [1988], pg. 174). When we examine the concept of God and the history of the universe, we begin to see that these questions are less difficult to answer than we had perhaps imagined—most obviously because they are ill conceived.
The Big Bang Theory (proposed by Roman Catholic priest Fr. Georges Lemaitre) states that the universe—physical time, space, matter, and energy—came into existence cataclysmically roughly13.8 billion years ago. This discovery is based on observations such as the expanding universe and the tendency of energy to spread out or dissipate; the fact that the universe is “winding down” (based on the second law of thermodynamics) implies that the universe will eventually die a “heat death” and thus meet its demise. Such discoveries have remarkably confirmed the Church doctrine of creation ex nihil ("out of nothing"): “In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth” (Genesis 1:1).
Even atheistic scientists acknowledge this scenario. According to the astrophysicists John Barrow and Joseph Silk, “Our new picture is more akin to the traditional metaphysical picture of creation out of nothing, for it predicts a definite beginning to events in time, indeed a definite beginning to time itself.”(See John D. Barrow and Joseph Silk, The Left Hand of Creation, 2d ed. [1993], pg. 38). In fact, Nobel Prize–winning physicist Stephen Weinberg once remarked that the now rejected “Steady State Theory (which views the universe as eternally existent) is philosophically the most attractive theory because it least resembles the account given in Genesis.” (See John D. Barrow, The World within the World [1988], pg. 226; Emphasis mine).
Unfortunately for atheists, the universe did begin, much to Weinberg’s dismay, and the physical state prior to the big bang was literally nothing. By “prior” I don’t mean that there were moments of time before the Big Bang. (By “time” I mean that which is constituted by the succession of events or happenings. If there were no events, there would be no time.) Rather, I refer to the priority of being (“metaphysical priority”): One state of being (God’s timeless existence) serves as the ground for another (temporal, contingent existence). Or we could just speak of God with or without the universe.
Some people would claim that the universe came into existence uncaused out of nothing. One atheist, Michael Martin, says that “this beginning [of the universe] may be uncaused” and that such theories are in fact “being taken seriously by scientists.” (See Michael Martin, Atheism: A Philosophical Justification [1990], pg. 106). However, something cannot come into existence uncaused out of nothing since being cannot come from nonbeing. This is a basic truth about reality itself (i.e., metaphysics); it isn’t, as Martin believes, some culture-bound conviction that will be overturned in some future scientific revolution (comparable to what Newton or Einstein introduced).
Think about it: How can something be produced when absolutely no potentiality exists for its emergence? (By “nothing,” I do not mean subatomic particles or other unobservable entities.) The chances of something coming from absolute nothingness are zero, since there is not even the potentiality for a universe to come into existence. It seems that such claims about something-from-nothing may be rooted in an underlying attempt to avoid the implications of God’s existence. That is, the principle “from nothing, nothing comes” (ex nihilo, nihil fit) would likely be universally assumed by skeptics were it not for the fact that the universe’s beginning greatly resembles the account in Genesis 1:1.
The atheist philosopher Kai Nielsen acknowledges how misplaced is the notion of something coming from nothing: “Suppose you hear a loud bang . . . and you ask me, ‘What made that bang?’ and I reply, ‘Nothing, it just happened.’ You would not accept that. In fact you would find my reply quite unintelligible.” (See Kai Nielsen, Reason and Practice, [1971], pg. 48).
Answering the Atheists and Skeptics
Against the background information above, one can now attack the question of "So who created God?" in four points:
1. The theist does not claim that whatever exists must have a cause, but whatever begins to exist must have a cause. No right-thinking theist argues that everything must have a cause; if this were the case, ONLY THEN God would need a cause too! Rather, we begin with the fundamental principle about reality that anything that begins to exist has a cause. The universe clearly began and therefore has a cause. On the other hand, the eternal and self-existent God by definition does not need a cause; he is uncaused. When talking to a skeptic, you might be told, “Everything—even the cause of the universe—must itself have a cause.” But the skeptic is making a questionable assumption, one that has no room for a being like God. This is question-begging or assuming what one wants to prove. It’s like saying, “All reality is physical; therefore God can’t exist.” Clearly, all reality is not physical. For example, laws of logic or moral truths (e.g., “torturing babies for fun is wrong”) are not physical but are still obviously real.
2. Start with a non-question-begging beginning point in your discussion, and "everything that begins to exist has a cause" does just that. Thinkers in the past such as Plato and Aristotle assumed that the universe was eternal and needed no caused explanation for its origin. Two hundred years ago atheists assumed the universe’s eternality and that it needed no cause or explanation. If the universe can hypothetically be self-explanatory, then why can’t the same be true for God? However, no one could reasonably accept that something could pop into existence uncaused, out of nothing. Now that contemporary science has revealed that the universe began, many non-theists are squirming at the possible theistic implications of this fact. What I’m saying is that our principle does not rule out the possibility of something being self-existent—whether God or the universe. Ask those who persist in arguing that the universe came from literally nothing, “Why should this be any more likely than its having come from God?” Something coming into existence from nothing is absurd and without any logical, scientific or metaphysical justification.
3. Fourth, certain realities—such as logical laws or mathematical truths—are clearly uncaused, as they are eternal and necessary; therefore, it cannot be true that everything must have a cause. Even if the world did not exist, would the statement 2+2=4 still be true? Of course! Would the law of non-contradiction (A cannot equal non-A) still be true? Yes. Such truths are real (even though they are not physical), but there is no good reason to think that they have been caused. If this is true, why couldn’t we say the same about God himself? The point, again, is that not everything must have a cause.
4. The question “Who made God?” commits the “category fallacy.” It is another form of begging the question. In other words, it eliminates from the outset any possibility of God being the explanatory cause of the universe. How so? The question assumes that everything must be a contingent (dependent) entity and that there can be no such thing as a self-existent and uncaused entity like God. However, God is in a different category than caused entities; to put them in the same category is unfair. It’s like asking, “How does the color green taste?” or, “What flavor is middle C?” God, by definition, is an uncaused, necessary (non-contingent) being. God must not be blamed for not being finite and contingent! If we reframe the question “Who made God?” to clarify our categories, we will find that the question answers itself. Let’s rephrase the question in this way: “What caused the self-existent, uncaused Cause, who is by definition unmakeable, to exist?” Any further questions?
Conclusion
When terms and concepts are clarified, it becomes clear that "Who made God?" is a nonsensical question. Remember the Kalam Cosmological Argument:
- Whatever begins to exist must have a cause
- The universe began to exist (Big Bang Theory)
- Therefore, the universe has a Cause
This is a rational explanation of God's existence, whereas atheists pit science and reason against faith. This is because they haven't understood that reason and faith are not opposites. We believe in God because we are able to prove His existence by reason through created things, as St. Paul (Rom 1:19-20) and the Vatican Council (Dei Filius) say, and because He has revealed Himself to mankind. Atheism is vain, but the world has rebelled against its Creator and returned to paganism.
ReplyDeleteSimon,
DeleteCorrect. Science and faith will never conflict, as God is the Author of both.
God Bless,
---Introibo
Introibo, This is an awesome post, as always! Most atheists that I have met deny the existence of God simply because they can't see him. It's always fun to give them examples of things that are scientifically 100% known to exist but have never been observed. Their existence has been established with certainty by observing/measuring their effects.
ReplyDeleteThat list includes atoms and all subatomic particles (e.g., electrons, protons, neutrons), most planets outside our solar system (aka "exoplanets"), black holes, dark matter, and loads of other things. Again, science knows of their existence because we can observe their effects. For instance, periodic dimming of a distant star as a planet crosses in front of it.
It's puzzling to me how they blatantly apply two different standards and move the goalposts to "prove" their point.
Deus Vult,
DeleteThank you, my friend , both for the kind words and the insightful comment! It’s amazing how atheists always want to appear intellectually superior (think Dawkins, Harris), but are actually quite obtuse upon examination.
God Bless,
—-Introibo
I have the same thoughts as you about these atheists who think they are very intelligent and imbued with false principles but who are incapable of seeing the obvious. They believe in science about climate change, but the same science proves the humanity of the unborn child and the fact that we are sexed from conception, and therefore unable to change sex, and they deny this.
DeleteI always enjoy your comments Simon. Prayers always for you.
DeleteMay I ask you a question Introibo on another subject.
ReplyDeleteWhen you met your future wife, do you believe the hand of God was behind this?
How long did it take you to fall in love or was it straight away?Do you believe if the woman you are to marry is the one God meant for you, there is an unexplainable deep love you will have for this person that you have never had with anyone else including your dearest friends or parents.
How long after your first meeting, did you meet the parents?
T
@anon3:49
Delete1. Do I believe the Hand of God was behind behind my meeting my future wife?
In the sense that all things follow from the plan of God, yes. Certainly, free will plays an important role, but God sets things in motion, so to speak.
2. How long did it take you to fall in love or was it straight away?
It was a short time.
3. Do you believe if the woman you are to marry is the one God meant for you, there is an unexplainable deep love you will have for this person that you have never had with anyone else including your dearest friends or parents?
I think you will feel a SPECIAL love. You love God, your wife, your children, your parents, and your friends, but the type of love is different in each case.
4. How long after your first meeting, did you meet the parents?
Two and a half months.
God Bless,
---Introibo
Hello T ,that is a very god question on Marriage. I have the view that yes God does bring a man and woman together . It happened to me .It is unexplainable. After years of waiting and praying ,I had given up and just got on with life . Round the corner one day I had the introduction of a wonderful Catholic woman and it was love at first sight . It was like we had known each other for years. We were married in 7 months .
ReplyDeleteGod bless you
James
James,
DeleteA beautiful story!
God Bless,
---Introibo
A blessed Easter-tide to you all . Thank God for this excellent site . We are always learning something new . Well done and keep up the fine work Introibo and your other writers .
ReplyDeleteP.G
Australia
P.G.
DeleteThank you for the kind words, my friend! Seems I have quite a few readers from "down under"!
God Bless,
---Introibo
Introibo and readers
ReplyDeleteHave you read the book - Five proofs of the existence of God by Edward Feser . I know his book is published by a Novus Ordo publishing house but your thoughts please . Thank you and God bless
@anon2:58
DeleteYes. Dr. Feser is one of the very few truly intelligent menthe Vatican II sect has, and I pray for His conversion. The book is excellent; a unique approach, and good reading.
God Bless,
---Introibo
Hello Introibo
ReplyDeleteMay God be praised .
On the subject of dating and marriage .
Years ago when I was very involved in my Novus Ordo parish ,I thought a young woman was interested in me but she was just leading me on along with her parents . To my utter shock this woman and her new boyfriend along with her dad sat right in front of me one sunday to basically show of and make me feel hurt . What would you have done and what advice would you give to other men who have been through the same thing.
@anon2:03
DeleteThat parents would do something like that is incredulous. They seem mentally unbalanced. Be glad you didn't marry her. What would I have done? I would have introduced myself to the boyfriend and said, "Good luck being with [name] and her family. You'll be needing all the luck you can get."
Without knowing more, my advice would be to pay closer attention to any red flags. That family needs prayers (and psychotropic meds).
God Bless,
---Introibo
I am 48 Introibo and never been married . Have you known people who have met someone in their 50's and married . I had my sight on several men over the years but nothing happened . I did feel hurt .
ReplyDeleteClare,London,England
As for me, I'm 47 and I've never been married either. I don't know if I'll ever get married, I've never met a woman. And I don't know if I want to get married...
DeleteWell Simon you will never meet Clare from London if you don't try to contact her. You are both in your late 40's and presumably Traditional Catholic, so why not? I met somebody over the internet through a friend and I'm happily married 14 years and counting and before that I felt hopeless and had some relationships that didn't work out. You'll never know unless you try. If it doesn't work out, shake it off and try again.
DeleteClare,
DeleteYes, I've known people in their 50s (even 60s) who have gotten married. I'm sorry you've been hurt. I was hurt too, before I met my future wife. I was resigned to the Will of God, that perhaps matrimony was not to be my state in life. Don't give up hope, but stay resigned to God's Will in all things.
God Bless,
---Introibo
Hi Introibo
ReplyDeleteOn the subject of books. What year would you say is the cut of date for writings around the 1950's and 1960's . PCP books have some dated 1967,I am unsure. Thank you and God bless
@anon3:30,
DeleteUnless the book is a reprint, or was written by a known theologian of orthodoxy, a good rule of thumb is nothing past 1963 should be trusted. 1958 and prior is best. 1959-1963 is good.
God Bless,
---Introibo
I think that is just disgusting a Father with his daughter flaunting in front of another man they led on . I am sure Introibo you would say that is a blessing for that man that no relationship started. Better to be single then to have to put up with garbage like that .
ReplyDelete@anon11:59
DeleteRight on! See my reply above.
God Bless,
---Introibo
Thank you Introibo for your kind words .It means so much . Those people who married in their 50's and 60's you speak of, were they always single before that?
ReplyDeleteAs to the above comment I find it hard to understand that parents would do that to a decent man . Yes, a real blessing for no relationship to happened .
Clare
Clare,
DeleteTwo such couples had never before been married. The other two couples had one person who was widowed the other never married. Don't hesitate to date a widower. They are truly single again and know what it's like to be married. It can be a happy first marriage for you, and second marriage for him.
God Bless,
---Introibo
Greetings, I read your article with great interest and I would like to refer to it. Sometimes I stay away from the Internet because I don't really like being connected and seeing the amount of crap that unfortunately circulates on the Internet. But I still visit the blog when I have the opportunity.
ReplyDeleteIn relation to the article, I wanted to comment that, from my own experience, when a believer explains what is stated in the article to a non-believer, he or she usually responds "all that is very good, but why should that God be Catholic and not the Mormon or the Quaker?" And so with everything. The main problem that I see in today's Western society is not that there are people who have doubts about the existence of God or ask questions, it is that they don't care about everything. They practice "practical atheism", that is, in practice people are atheists and live outside the Faith and the Church, but few argue why they would be atheists, since they do not care whether God exists or not. They simply do not give importance to anything that is not in this world. And since what there is is a strong anticlericalism, in Europe as far as I know, they don't listen to what comes from the Church.
I give an example: in Poland it is being discussed -Poland, a country with a Catholic tradition; Imagine in countries with a Protestant majority - that Francis will soon accept the resignation of the current Archbishop of Krakow due to age. Well, the main news for the misinformation media is not that, but what residence is going to be established, whether it is luxurious, whether it is going to be renovated and the archbishopric has not asked the City Council for permits... And on the Internet almost all the comments are summarized in "Church that is a thief and corrupt and a cover-up." Also in Poland, the former Archbishop Sapieha is being called a sodomite, openly, and people insult, defame and rejoice at every scandal that comes out that involves a member of the clergy, whether true or not.
With this panorama you can try to give arguments for the existence of God, which Western society doesn't care about. A narcissistic, selfish and superficial society will not look beyond its navel.
Young reader from Spain
Young Reader from Spain,
Deleteyou're absolutely right in your description of Poland. Nominal "Catholics", that is, Novus Ordites have brought up their children, and grandchildren, as practical atheists.
To some extent Poland is still seen as some sort of conservative haven which is utterly false. On a spiritual level, the society is as heathenish as anywhere else, economically we're the cheap labor of the West.
Unless you're able to bring your own chapel and a priest along, don't ever consider moving to Poland.
God Bless You,
Joanna
Young Reader from Spain,
DeleteYou are correct that there are more practical than theoretical atheists. That stems from the religious indifferentism/ecumenism of Vatican II. What you refer to--not caring about God--has a name, "Apatheism," and I will be writing about that as well.
God Bless,
---Introibo
The only thing that can convert someone like this, is fear.
DeleteThe West has rejected the true faith, but as it cannot reject all beliefs, it has converted to the eco-pagan religion. Even the V2 sect pushes people to become ecologists instead of converting them to Catholicism, proving that it is not the Catholic Church.
DeleteGreetings to those who have responded to me, I greatly appreciate your responses and comments!
DeleteGreetings Joanna, what I said I read on the Internet in different places, I don't know Poland but I already assumed that the situation there will not be encouraging, although in my country the reality is worse. I take this opportunity to say that I am happy to meet a young Catholic like you, with a solid faith! In my country I don't know anyone like that and people like you are particular references for me.
Greetings Introibo, I hope to soon read the article about apatheism that you are going to write; It will be very instructive, I'm sure!
Young reader from Spain
Great post, Introibo. Thanks for doing it. I enjoyed reading about the category fallacy - that makes a lot of sense. It is good to know these arguments.
ReplyDeleteGod Bless everyone,
-Seeking Truth
Seeking Truth,
DeleteAs 1 Peter 3:15 says, "Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect,"
It is indeed good to know the arguments in defense of the Faith!
God Bless,
---Introibo
What do you think about the april 8th eclipse fear mongering of the protestants? Do you believe this eclipse is a sign of the endtimes?
ReplyDelete@anon7:47
DeleteThe eclipse of the Church is what worries me, not the Sun!
God Bless,
---Introibo
All right!
DeleteApril 8 is this year's feast of the Annunciation. Better to pray to Our Lady all the more on that day than try to decipher the purported meaning behind some natural phenomenon, IMO.
DeleteI'll look at this eclipse as an interesting natural phenomenon, but we mustn't get embroiled in the hysterical interpretations of Protestants who understand nothing of Scripture, like the Pharisees to whom Christ made the same reproach. Introibo is right about the eclipse of the Church. Few of us realize that the one true Church is eclipsed by a modernist sect and, unlike the eclipse of the Sun, no one but God knows how long it will last.
DeleteVery interesting. I take interest in metaphysics. God's answer to every atheist is "I Am that I Am".
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