To My Readers: This week, my good friend Steven Speray, writes about capital punishment, and the teaching of the Church compared to that of the Vatican II sect. Please read Steve's excellent Traditionalist blog, Catholic Top Gun at stevensperay.wordpress.com. Feel free to comment as usual. If you have a specific comment or question for me, I will respond as always, but it may take me a bit longer to do so this week.
God bless you all, my dear readers---Introibo
Why the Death Penalty
By Steven Speray
(See stevensperay.wordpress.com/2010/10/12/the-death-penalty-for-sodomites).
As one example of capital punishment, Pope St. Pius V tells us the purpose of putting Sodomites to death in his constitution Horrendum illud scelus of August 30, 1568:
“That horrible crime, on account of which corrupt and obscene cities were destroyed by fire through divine condemnation, causes us most bitter sorrow and shocks our mind, impelling us to repress such a crime with the greatest possible zeal…. So that the contagion of such a grave offense may not advance with greater audacity by taking advantage of impunity, which is the greatest incitement to sin…”
The first reason according to Pope St. Pius V is protecting society from the spread of evil as a deterrent to future crime. He continues…
“To more severely punish the clerics who are guilty of this nefarious crime and who are not frightened by the death of their souls...let him be immediately delivered to the secular authority to be put to death, as mandated by law as the fitting punishment for laymen who have sunk into this abyss.”
The second reason is punishment, hence the phrase “capital
punishment.”
John Paul II taught in his hallmark 1995 encyclical, Evangelium vitae that deterrent and punishment are not legitimate reasons for the death penalty. He wrote:
“27. In the same perspective there is evidence of a growing public opposition to the death penalty, even when such a penalty is seen as a kind of "legitimate defense" on the part of society. .Modern society in fact has the means of effectively suppressing crime by rendering criminals harmless without definitively denying them the chance to reform.”
Because the world is moving away from the death penalty, John Paul 2 would have liked to see his counterfeit religion lead the way in opposition to the death penalty. Capital punishment is already rare. He continued…
“56. This is the context in which to place the problem of the death penalty. On this matter there is a growing tendency, both in the Church and in civil society, to demand that it be applied in a very limited way or even that it be abolished completely. The problem must be viewed in the context of a system of penal justice ever more in line with human dignity and thus, in the end, with God’s plan for man and society. The primary purpose of the punishment which society inflicts is “to redress the disorder caused by the offence”. [Catechism of the Catholic Church, No. 2266.] Public authority must redress the violation of personal and social rights by imposing on the offender an adequate punishment for the crime, as a condition for the offender to regain the exercise of his or her freedom. In this way authority also fulfils the purpose of defending public order and ensuring people’s safety, while at the same time offering the offender an incentive and help to change his or her behaviour and be rehabilitated. [Cf. ibid.]
It is clear that, for these purposes to be achieved, the
nature and extent of the punishment must be carefully evaluated and decided
upon, and ought not go to the extreme of executing the offender except in cases
of absolute necessity: in other words, when it would not be possible otherwise
to defend society. Today however, as a result of steady improvements in the
organization of the penal system, such cases are very rare, if not practically
non-existent.”
The impostor pope Francis took it to the next level. He declared the death penalty is “contrary to the Gospel,” “is an inhuman measure,” “is inadmissible because it attacks the inviolability and the dignity of the person” stressing that “here we are not in the presence of any contradiction with past teaching,” that this, “law of progress” he said, “appertains to the peculiar condition of the truth revealed in its being transmitted by the church, and does not at all signify a change of doctrine. One cannot conserve the doctrine without making it progress, nor can one bind it to a rigid and immutable reading without humiliating the Holy Spirit.” [1]
In “Why Sedevacantism” (See stevensperay.wordpress.com/why-sedevacantism) I showed that if Vatican 2 is correct that “religious communities are entitled to teach and give witness to their faith publicly in speech and writing without hindrance” [DH 4] then Martin Luther would have been right when he declared “that heretics be burned is against the will of the Spirit” and Pope Leo X and his papal bull condemning Luther’s teaching would be erroneous.
On Aug. 2, 2018, the Feast of St. Alphonsus Liguori, the impostor pope Francis officially recognized Martin Luther’s teaching as orthodoxy by ordering the Catechism of the Catholic Church to be changed on capital punishment. [2] (Catechism change and the Letter from the CDF.)
It really is astounding how Protestant Rome is becoming. One of the doctrines held by the earliest Protestants (Anabaptists) was the unlawfulness of capital punishment. In De Laicis, St. Robert Bellarmine called this a “chief heretical belief” of the Protestant sects. [3]
St. Alphonsus Liguori taught, “It is lawful to put a man to death by public authority: it is even a duty of princes and of judges to condemn to death criminals who deserve it; and it is the duty of the officers of justice to execute the sentence; God himself wishes malefactors to be punished.” [4]
Again, we see St. Alphonsus Liquori explain that it’s the just punishment for certain crimes.
The Roman Catechism of the Council of Trent declared, “Execution Of Criminals: Another kind of lawful slaying belongs to the civil authorities, to whom is entrusted power of life and death, by the legal and judicious exercise of which they punish the guilty and protect the innocent. The just use of this power, far from involving the crime of murder, is an act of paramount obedience to this Commandment which prohibits murder. The end of the Commandment¬ is the preservation and security of human life. Now the punishments inflicted by the civil authority, which is the legitimate avenger of crime, naturally tend to this end, since they give security to life by repressing outrage and violence. Hence these words of David: In the morning I put to death all the wicked of the land, that I might cut off all the workers of iniquity from the city of the Lord.” [5]
On July 3, 1907, Pope St. Pius X condemned as an error of the Modernist in Lamentabili, “53. The organic constitution of the Church is not immutable; but Christian society, just as human society, is subject to perpetual evolution.”
This modernist error is witnessed on one level in the teachings of the impostor popes John Paul 2 and Francis concerning capital punishment.
Think about what
It’s a good thing when the devils running the
[1] https://www.americamagazine.org/faith/2017/10/11/pope-francis-death-penalty-contrary-gospel
[2] The Death Penalty
“2267. Recourse to the death penalty on the part of
legitimate authority, following a fair trial, was long considered an
appropriate response to the gravity of certain crimes and an acceptable, albeit
extreme, means of safeguarding the common good.
Today, however, there is an increasing awareness that the
dignity of the person is not lost even after the commission of very serious
crimes. In addition, a new understanding has emerged of the significance of
penal sanctions imposed by the state.
Lastly, more effective systems of detention have been
developed, which ensure the due protection of citizens but, at the same time,
do not definitively deprive the guilty of the possibility of redemption.
Consequently, the Church teaches, in the light of the
Gospel, that “the death penalty is inadmissible because it is an attack on the
inviolability and dignity of the person”, [1] and she works with determination
for its abolition worldwide.
_______________________________________
[1] FRANCIS, Address to Participants in the Meeting organized by the Pontifical
Council for the Promotion of the New Evangelization, 11 October 2017:
L’Osservatore Romano, 13 October 2017, 5.”
“CONGREGATION FOR THE DOCTRINE OF THE FAITH
Letter to the Bishops regarding the new revision of number 2267 of the
Catechism of the Catholic Church on the death penalty
1. The Holy Father Pope Francis, in his Discourse on the
occasion of the twenty-fifth anniversary of the publication of the Apostolic
Constitution Fidei depositum, by which John Paul II promulgated the Catechism
of the Catholic Church, asked that the teaching on the death penalty be
reformulated so as to better reflect the development of the doctrine on this
point that has taken place in recent times.[1] This development centers
principally on the clearer awareness of the Church for the respect due to every
human life. Along this line, John Paul II affirmed: “Not even a murderer loses
his personal dignity, and God himself pledges to guarantee this.”[2]
2. It is in the same light that one should understand the attitude towards the
death penalty that is expressed ever more widely in the teaching of pastors and
in the sensibility of the people of God. If, in fact, the political and social
situation of the past made the death penalty an acceptable means for the
protection of the common good, today the increasing understanding that the
dignity of a person is not lost even after committing the most serious crimes,
the deepened understanding of the significance of penal sanctions applied by
the State, and the development of more efficacious detention systems that
guarantee the due protection of citizens have given rise to a new awareness
that recognizes the inadmissibility of the death penalty and, therefore, calling
for its abolition.
3. In this development, the teaching of the Encyclical Letter Evangelium vitæ
of John Paul II is of great importance. The Holy Father enumerated among the
signs of hope for a new culture of life “a growing public opposition to the
death penalty, even when such a penalty is seen as a kind of ‘legitimate
defense’ on the part of society. Modern society in fact has the means of
effectively suppressing crime by rendering criminals harmless without
definitively denying them the chance to reform.”[3] The teaching of Evangelium
vitæ was then included in the editio typica of the Catechism of the Catholic
Church. In it, the death penalty is not presented as a proportionate penalty
for the gravity of the crime, but it can be justified if it is “the only
practicable way to defend the lives of human beings effectively against the
aggressor,” even if in reality “cases of absolute necessity for suppression of
the offender today are very rare, if not practically non-existent” (n. 2267).
4. John Paul II also intervened on other occasions against the death penalty,
appealing both to respect for the dignity of the person as well as to the means
that today’s society possesses to defend itself from criminals. Thus, in the
Christmas Message of 1998, he wished “the world the consensus concerning the
need for urgent and adequate measures … to end the death penalty.”[4] The
following month in the
5. The motivation to be committed to the abolition of the death penalty was
continued with the subsequent Pontiffs. Benedict XVI recalled “the attention of
society’s leaders to the need to make every effort to eliminate the death
penalty.”[6] He later wished a group of the faithful that “your deliberations
will encourage the political and legislative initiatives being promoted in a
growing number of countries to eliminate the death penalty and to continue the
substantive progress made in conforming penal law both to the human dignity of
prisoners and the effective maintenance of public order.”[7]
6. In this same prospective, Pope Francis has reaffirmed that “today capital
punishment is unacceptable, however serious the condemned’s crime may have
been.”[8] The death penalty, regardless of the means of execution, “entails
cruel, inhumane, and degrading treatment.”[9] Furthermore, it is to be rejected
“due to the defective selectivity of the criminal justice system and in the
face of the possibility of judicial error.”[10] It is in this light that Pope
Francis has asked for a revision of the formulation of the Catechism of the
Catholic Church on the death penalty in a manner that affirms that “no matter
how serious the crime that has been committed, the death penalty is
inadmissible because it is an attack on the inviolability and the dignity of
the person.”[11]
7. The new revision of number 2267 of the Catechism of the Catholic Church,
approved by Pope Francis, situates itself in continuity with the preceding
Magisterium while bringing forth a coherent development of Catholic
doctrine.[12] The new text, following the footsteps of the teaching of John
Paul II in Evangelium vitæ, affirms that ending the life of a criminal as
punishment for a crime is inadmissible because it attacks the dignity of the
person, a dignity that is not lost even after having committed the most serious
crimes. This conclusion is reached taking into account the new understanding of
penal sanctions applied by the modern State, which should be oriented above all
to the rehabilitation and social reintegration of the criminal. Finally, given
that modern society possesses more efficient detention systems, the death
penalty becomes unnecessary as protection for the life of innocent people.
Certainly, it remains the duty of public authorities to defend the life of
citizens, as has always been taught by the Magisterium and is confirmed by the
Catechism of the Catholic Church in numbers 2265 and 2266.
8. All of this shows that the new formulation of number 2267 of the Catechism
expresses an authentic development of doctrine that is not in contradiction
with the prior teachings of the Magisterium. These teachings, in fact, can be
explained in the light of the primary responsibility of the public authority to
protect the common good in a social context in which the penal sanctions were
understood differently, and had developed in an environment in which it was
more difficult to guarantee that the criminal could not repeat his crime.
9. The new revision affirms that the understanding of the inadmissibility of
the death penalty grew “in the light of the Gospel.”[13] The Gospel, in fact,
helps to understand better the order of creation that the Son of God assumed,
purified, and brought to fulfillment. It also invites us to the mercy and
patience of the Lord that gives to each person the time to convert oneself.
10. The new formulation of number 2267 of the Catechism of the Catholic Church
desires to give energy to a movement towards a decisive commitment to favor a
mentality that recognizes the dignity of every human life and, in respectful
dialogue with civil authorities, to encourage the creation of conditions that
allow for the elimination of the death penalty where it is still in effect.
The Sovereign Pontiff Francis, in the Audience granted to the undersigned
Secretary of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith on 28 June 2018,
has approved the present Letter, adopted in the Ordinary Session of this
Congregation on 13 June 2018, and ordered its publication.
Luis F. Card. Ladaria, S.I.
Prefect
X Giacomo Morandi
Titular Archbishop of Cerveteri
Secretary
[3] St. Robert
Bellarmine, De Laicis, “Among the chief heretical beliefs of the Anabaptists
and Antitrinitarians of our time there is one that says that it is not lawful
for Christians to hold magistracy and that among Christians there must not be
power of capital punishment, etc., in any government, tribunal, or court.” (p.
5)
[4] St. Alphonsus Liguori (Instructions for the People on
the Ten Commandments and on the Sacraments) https://archive.org/stream/alphonsusworks15liguuoft#page/n467/mode/1up
[5] http://www.cin.org/users/james/ebooks/master/trent/tcomm05.htm
[6] Death Penalty for Child Sexual Abuse that Does Not Result in Death | Death Penalty Information Center
Wonderful article Steven! Yes it seems no matter how many facts are presented to Novus Ordites, they don't want the Truth because it is just too hard to live the Truth...or as you stated...most could care less anyway. I like sending this out during Christmas every year...
ReplyDeletehttps://www.traditioninaction.org/religious/n129_Sodomy_5.htm
I haven't always been in favor of the death penalty, but now I am. The Church cannot teach two opposing doctrines. If one is true, the other is false. The V2 sect believes, like the world, that man is a god, so that's why they defend human dignity and human rights so much. And the modernist false popes mock people by pretending that there is no contradiction with traditional teaching ! The death penalty is a just punishment for those who take the lives of innocent people, and I think we could include abortionists in this category.
ReplyDeleteSimon,
DeleteAbortionists are murderers and deserve capital punishment more than others!
God Bless,
---Introibo
I don't hear Bob Prevost (Leo XIV) saying anything about justice being done to Tyler Robinson who assassinated Charlie Kirk. Oh that's right, Leo agrees with Francis that it's contrary to the Gospel to even suggest the death penalty because Leo is in favor of the inviolability and dignity of his (Tyler's) person.
ReplyDeleteJust like in April 2022 when a taxi driver raped a three year girl and when the girl was found and had to undergo reconstructive surgery, everybody of the Chiclayo wanted extreme justice for the man, but Bob said "there is no way to soften the pain felt at the abuse. Nonetheless, “blood for blood is no answer.”
Lee
Lee, Tyler Robinson is likely a patsy for the Mossad. Kirk was likely assassinated by them.
DeleteIf anything, in his case I would share him the death penalty, to avoid having a martyr for the mainstream left.
I second poni's comment. Also 'share' was supposed to be 'spare' as I understand.
DeleteEl Poni,
DeleteI don't think he is a patsy. The Trans community is pretty extreme and it's reasonable to believe they plotted to kill Charlie. They have texts from days before. They want his wife dead now.
The word martyr has been floating around recently and I think it's a shame because a true martyr is one who volunteers to die for Christ AND His true Church. Charlie was not a martyr. He was murdered because his opinions were not liked by many. The left are not going to stop and they've made that abundantly clear. They simply want a world without opposition to their way of thinking and they are not happy until they get what they want.
Lee
You used to be more based, Lee. I am disappointed. The proof that "the left" hates us is in the countless of people who are happy that he died, Robinson is not necessarily one of them.
DeleteEl Poni,
DeleteIt's not necessarily true that Mossad is behind it either. That is theory. Do you have proof other than speculation? Is being based mean when I agree with you?
Lee
Yes, I meant spare. Thank you CaisahrSt.Joseph.
DeleteWell, if the Mossad theory is just a theory, (meaning, possibly true) then why do you attack Tyler Robinson as if you knew for certain he was the killer? It indicates a trust in the establishment the shouldn't be there
DeleteBob is clearly not going to ask for him to be executed. Imagine how his "liberal" fans would react.
El Poni,
DeleteHis dad turned him. His neighbors know of him and have told reporters that he is a leftist who had seen him and his trans friend. There is no denying that.
When you imply that I trust in the establishment, who do you define as part of the establishment? By believing in the Mossad theory who do you show that you trust in? Is it random people on X or some other source who thinks they have figured it out? What makes you trust them?
One anon. below isn't even for sure if Kirk is dead. You think that is a plausible theory that is "based" (as you say) in reality? It's "based" on nonsense.
Bob is not going to ask for anybody to be executed because he simply doesn't believe in it. That was my original point.
Lee
Not just that, he doesn't want to anger the leftists who are celebrating his death. Also, the narrative that it was Tyler Robinson IS the MSM narrative.
DeleteEl Poni,
DeleteYou didn't answer the questions. By believing in the Mossad theory who do you show that you trust in? Is it random people on X or some other source who thinks they have figured it out? What makes you trust them? Also you didn't answer whether you think if Charlie Kirk is even dead as plausible. You even admitted that the Mossad theory is "possibly true" which would mean it is also "possibly wrong" and yet you act like I'm not based for disagreeing with you for something you're not certain about just because you fear of appearing to believe in MSM. Coming up with wild assertions just makes one look like a fool.
I assume you mean MSM is CNN, ABC, CBS, etc. They are trying to say that Robinson was a conservative Trump supporter btw. I have never believed in MSM.
Would you consider the Gateway Pundit, Mark Dice, Steve Bannon, The Next News (Gary Franchi), Infowars, etc. part of MSM? None of them believe in the Mossad theory.
Lee
I think an even more plausible, and definitely connected to Mossad, theory is that Charlie Kirk was killed to distract the public from the Epstein case. Think about it, this has turned into another golden opportunity for the left/right dialectic to be inflamed, and that makes it easier to memory hole the Epstein controversy. I wouldn't trust anything coming from both leftwing and rightwing sources regarding the assassination. This is more Judeo-Masonic "order out of chaos".
DeleteSo....people automatically believe Kirk is dead because that is what you saw on TV? Covid is a lie and most believe that is true too...because the TV tells them so. No one believes the NO is evil and a lie...but here were are.
DeleteExactly Sneedvacantist! The left right paradigm is a common tactic they ( the New World Order globalists) use.
Deletehttps://youtu.be/fixvK01iBM4?si=TX7oWan7fByJH6jN
DeleteThis lady knows more about freemasons...order out of chaos...than any conservative NO person I know. And I know thousands of them. That is why I know well over 400 dead from fake covid poison shots. Many know this narrative is a lie and doesn't make sense. There is no left and right. Globalists all on same team, just playing roles to fool the sheep and keep people divided and distracted, never to rise up against them. It seems 1 Billion plus self identifying Catholics fooled by their social club they call the church.
https://www.youtube.com/live/Ykp97OnFH5E?si=kVJzG9ysC4GWn_oo
DeleteHere is part 2 of Peggy Hall questioning the Kirk incident. The Masonic ring wife wears on middle finger...the freemasons love mocking Christ of course and laughing at us, giving us their middle finger...
TW...she also points out a CIA clue, which works closely with Mossad on these psyops.
Anon. 2:30,
DeleteIt was a public event scheduled as all his change my mind debates were scheduled. To say it wasn't real because you don't believe in what you see on T.V. is just plain ludicrous. People have this thing called a smart phone. They pull it out and start recording so that way the media cannot hide things from the public. Common sense. So I guess you don't believe the extreme leftist (mostly women) who were celebrating his death on Tik Tok and other platforms do you? How do we know you have a brain? I can't see it, therefore it must be A.I. I'm conversing with.
Lee
Will check it out, when I get time.
DeleteHa Lee except no one recorded anything at the shooting...amazing huh? And there is plenty of evidence of Masons at play posted by the wife herself.
Deletehttps://www.youtube.com/live/YP1-DZKLL1Y?si=6kun6cWSRbtmcGCr
AI doesn't know about the Remnant Church. I saw that today when I tried to tell someone about Ember Days so I Googled for them a brief summary of why we have Ember Days. It did say the modern Catholic Church no longer mandates, funny how they used covid language of mandates...endless nonsense and lies. Well they do say for most, so perhaps a a passive admission a Remnant exists. Well, no one cares anyway...except a few here!
"While no longer formally mandated for most, they remain part of the traditional calendar and are voluntarily observed by many as a way to connect to God and the Church's rich history. "
Ps Lee...I don't watch Tik Tok but I can certainly see all the novus ordites on fakebook I know...thousands..women and men listing quotes of CK they don't agree with but say he didn't deserve to die.
DeleteHere is one small snippet of a NOer post on CK...it was very long. I am well aware of what is going on even if you think my comments and others are ludicrous and not based in reality. I don't think most are based in reality. Most are based in their own false realities.
"Here are some of Charlie Kirk's statements below.
(I'm sorry to post this egregious material, but I doubt anyone who is mourning Kirk is going to click on my link, and I really want them to take all of this in...)
"If I see a Black pilot, I’m going to be like, boy, I hope he’s qualified."
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 23 January 2024
"If you’re a WNBA, pot-smoking, Black lesbian, do you get treated better than a United States marine?"
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 8 December 2022
"Happening all the time in urban America, prowling Blacks go around for fun to go target white people, that’s a fact. It’s happening more and more."
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 19 May 2023
"If I’m dealing with somebody in customer service who’s a moronic Black woman, I wonder is she there because of her excellence, or is she there because of affirmative action?"
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 3 January 2024
"If we would have said that Joy Reid and Michelle Obama and Sheila Jackson Lee and Ketanji Brown Jackson were affirmative action picks, we would have been called racists. Now they’re coming out and they’re saying it for us … You do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person’s slot to go be taken somewhat seriously."
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 13 July 2023
"Reject feminism. Submit to your husband, Taylor. You’re not in charge."
– Discussing news of Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce’s engagement on The Charlie Kirk Show, 26 August 2025
"The answer is yes, the baby would be delivered."
– Responding to a question about whether he would support his 10-year-old daughter aborting a pregnancy conceived because of rape on the debate show Surrounded, published on 8 September 2024"
Info wars and many non MSM are controlled opposition. Scams everywhere...even the elect will be deceived!
Deletehttps://fitzinfo.net/2021/03/03/how-to-detect-controlled-opposition/
Anon 7:34, 7:47
DeleteListened to Peggy Hall. Sounds like a kook to me. My question to you is what makes you trust her? How do you know that she is delivering truth after truth to you? What if she has an agenda that you are not aware of? Is it because you think like her and just want to believe like her? Is that it? If that makes you happy I guess have at it.
Lee
I didn't say I trust Peggy Hall 100%, she questions the MSM narratives and for good reason. She helped many navigate covid scam and helped many keep their jobs without getting death shots. She doesn't know the true Faith yet but most don't. At least she is open to learning. I sent her NOW site and sermons on freemason takeover of Vatican and she is interested. She is one of many who are pointing out many inconsistencies in this freemasonic playground we live in. It has nothing to do with my happiness.
DeleteAnon. 3:30,
DeleteYou say you don't trust in 100% of what she says but seem to put a lot of stock into what she says. Most of what she says is speculation, just like everybody else.
As far as the Covid crap I was outspoken of that a month before it happened in Feb. of 2020 and I even went on vacation that month just in case (thankfully I did). My boss didn't believe me when I kept warning him that the hype behind it was going to enter the workplace which happened in March 2020. Thankfully we weren't required to get the shot in 2021 but in 2020-2021 I got in trouble numerous times for not wearing the mask and I even was brought in to the office because I sent a Tucker Carlson video on why the mask didn't work and how Facui changed his mind to the highest three in command of our agency. I even told trad Catholics it was a mortal sin to receive the shot a year before it came out and some people thought I was nuts until Bp. Dolan also said the same thing for the exact same reasons. Yet it is I who am no longer "based" because I do not believe so many stupid theories about Charlie Kirk.
Not to get off track but how do you know Peggy is open to learning? She comes across as somebody who thinks they have it all figured out so why should she be interested in something pertaining to the faith when she has no faith in anything? After listening to a couple of her videos I am no longer going to waste my time.
Lee
I just did a quick research on Peggy Hall.
DeleteShe is a certified yoga instructor. That alone tells me to stay away from her ahem, expertise.
In one of her Substack posts titled Does POSTIVE THINKING Really WORK she talks about negative energy radiating from somebody a number of times and reclaiming her own power in dealing with it, I quote I was elated because I had taken control of my own outlook, and IT HAD SHIFTED THE ENERGY BETWEEN US. Emphasis mine.
Her official bio on thehealthyamerican.org says nothing of her yoga dealings but she makes sure to ask for your donations.
Lee is spot on about her coming across as having it all figured out.
I quote
You see, back when I was doing my bachelor's degree and master's degree, I learned how to think critically and evaluate the information I encountered.
Now, Mrs. Hall, dont tell me mainstream universities teach critical thinking. You see, I hold a Masters Degree too. So, you see, speaking from experience, Mrs. Hall.
P.S. Sorry about the missing punctuation. My laptop is having its senior moment.
Do you have a video or statement Bp Dolan made re shots? Sanborn said priests are not qualified to counsel people on them! Oh my. He is on video saying so.
DeleteNot sure why you make so many assumptions of the great stock I place in Peggy. I think she has a lot to offer re critical thinking amd like with everyone else, I ingest all with a grain of salt. She has taken public servants to Court and won...and she told me she was interested in what I sent her and was going to study. She likes facts and that’s good bc most don't. Novus Ordites who ask me for the info then reject it outright without looking at the facts.
Mainstream media, mainstream docs pushing all the immoral poisons and even traditional minded priests who also pushed the poisons don't have much to offer. If you think you know the truth they spoon feed to us, good for you. Maybe you should not take the based comment so personally. What we believe re Charlie Kirk will likely not exclude us from Heaven. All that matters is what He thinks of us. Right? God bless.
https://www.fromrome.info/2025/09/18/marine-sniper-shows-robinson-could-not-have-hid-or-assembled-mauser-98/
DeleteI have watched Peggy for years and she often says she does not have it all figured out. She has experts on her show. Yes, she too could be controlled opposition...but I don't believe all that is presented online. Even from sede priests. They contradict themselves all the time. These are horrendous times. Many NO parishes host yoga crap so why do we even keep up with what they are doing at all? Mario Derksen say we do because we have loved ones trapped In NO. All the people trying to do good despite their poor formation etc are not to be completely ignored or discounted. Doesn't God want all to be saved? How are they saved if we just disregard them and not share the Truth? There are truth and lies in everything...here too. So good luck to all. I am not finding this space good for my journey any longer. Many are deceived by much...
https://substack.com/@markcrispinmiller1
DeletePs. Also this man thinks the Talmud is good and thinks "democracy" is good...but I don’t ignore the good work he does compiling all the dead, most of these people from the covid shot.
I am betting that people who go to mainstream doctors and trust them have zero clue about all the BS those people believe but yet take all their advice. You think they don't recommend yoga and a load of other crap and poisons and vaxxes. Yes, let's attack those who stand up against tyranny and lies and injustice.
The comments about "having it all figured out" make me laugh...sedes have it all figured out, right? Even ones like Sanborn who say the current impostor can become the true pope in an instant! No critical thinking can be had except by those who have master and graduate degrees from indoctrination centers. Those places of indoctrination really helped the NO priests become slaves to lies and doing the devil's work but all the rest are good to go. Ok, thanks for all the insights.
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DeleteAnon (the same person for each comment),
I do not have a statement from Bp. Dolan saying it was a mortal sin to take the shot. It seemed like I heard him say it in an online sermon but I can't remember off the top of my head. He wrote me a letter of religious exemption from taking the shot for work in case I needed it. He was the only one who was willing. That paper I still have as a memory of him. He was the only one who saw through all of it.
I take things personal when people attack me just as anybody should. If you are going say I'm not based and then pretend that you are, I want to hear a logical explanation as to why you are and why I'm not. It's that simple. I've been wrong before but I'm willing to say I am, when I am, whereas many simply just go silent or walk away in their arrogance.
As for Peggy and the Talmud guy you mentioned, my recommendation is take a break from them for a while and read some good Catholic material. Lives of the saints, writings of the saints, or read the Scriptures if you like. Read a catechism or the popes encyclicals. Read the History Heresies by St. Alphonsus Liguori. I personally like the Mystical City of God or books by St. Louis de Montfort because they help one understand and love Mary that much more and give us a reason to become more devoted to her. These are things that matter. These are the things that help bring one closer to God and His Church. All this worldly stuff is a distraction and just as the Church forbade reading bad books, avoid listening to useless podcasters who just speculate and end up back where they started which is nowhere land.
Lee
Thanks Lee. I spend 90% of my time with Scriptures, sermons, saints and learning the faith. Been doing so for a long time probably to my own detriment. I don't spend a lot of time with the wordly matters...I know they exist and I can peruse their substacks quickly like I do here. Again, more assumptions.
DeleteI didn't call you based or care if someone calls me that so keep being offended...I guess? Poni told me a few weeks ago to stop despairing and jumping into hell...I was doing neither but I don't really care what others assume or misassume, you see. God bless!
Lee; You said:
DeleteI take things personal when people attack me just as anybody should.
If you are going say I'm not based and then pretend that you are, I want to hear a logical explanation as to why you are and why I'm not. It's that simple."
Being based requires suspecting the majority of official news, particularly official news involving politics. Being based doesn't require suggesting the execution of someone who might just be a patsy in a complex political plot we have little knowledge about.
If you want evidence, then I provide to you my sources:
Jimmy Dore
Candace Owens
Tucker Carlson
Some of the friends of Charlie Kirk suggesting he was starting to turn his back on Israel
The simple fact that shooting at someone in the neck is a complicated shot not everyone can land
Some problems with the official narrative: why was Robinson texting with his partner while trying to escape the shooting area, why are the text so obviously inculpatory, as if in an exposition dump.
In my opinion, you were no based enough for me because I expect more critical thinking from you. If you were based during the vaccines why couldn't you see something is off about Kirk? Is expressing dissapointment now a personal attack? It's not like if being based in certain areas is necessary for salvation, albeit one loosing their edge is certainly upsetting.
And don't say "Why would you trust this people?" when your official belief on the Kirk Killing comes directly from the FBI. No idea who this Peggy Hall is, but at least she is not hiding the Epstein information because it is a "democrat plot" to destroy Trump.
Trump is pushing out censorship rules to target this leftists, - despite the fact that he did nothing in 2020 with the Floyd Riots - and coincidentally, when the left is attacking Israel. When I explained that Mossad is likely implicated, all you do is tell me that trans people are violent, as if I didn't know that and as if that was convincing evidence that Robinson is the murderer. After so many years of lies, it will take much more to convince me.
And what are we even discussing anymore? Maybe we should just leave it here.
DeleteOK, I wouldn't have posted that comment about Peggy Hall and the sarcastic bit if I'd known you'd get defensive. That wasn't my point.
DeleteDo sedevacantists have it all figured out?
Depends on what you mean by "it". By applying Catholic principles found in pre-Vatican 2 Magisterium you necessarily arrive at the conclusion the Holy See has been vacant since Pius XII died because the principle of non-contradiction demands it. This is the "it" that sedevacantists have figured out on the basis of what true Popes had taught consistently up to 1958.
Now, without a true Pope to keep Catholics in order and admonish the world rather than praise and cuddle it, what can we expect but dissensions among those who try to keep the Faith and the spread of error in the world?
I hope you keep commenting.
God Bless,
Joanna
El Poni,
DeleteIt is not "evidence" that Israel is behind his murder just because of few of his personal friends suggest he was turning his back on Israel. It's suspicion but not evidence. There are a lot of suspicious reports that have been coming out. Who do you believe and why do you trust they are so right is all I've been asking of you? You haven't provided me a reason.
The official narrative isn't just from the FBI but the fact that Robinson's own father turned him in. His neighbors are also on record describing how they saw him and his fury friend. He is on trial and it doesn't appear yet that he didn't do it. Personally I believe there were more accomplices involved but not Israel necessarily. I really don't know any more than you or anybody else but I simply don't believe in all the theories people are coming up with. Introibo wrote an article a month ago showing how people take things to the extreme with their theories and this is another classic example of people speculating beyond the ridiculous. Is he not based to from that article?
Your original response came across as if your theory is so certain that Robinson doesn't deserve the death penalty because Israel did it. When I responded in the negative you insult me as if my take on the matter is so MSM. The implication is I'm shallow for believing such a thing even though I don't even watch MSM.
When I continued to ask why you were so certain about your theories you didn't answer until the last response which still did not prove anything other than speculation. Maybe we should leave it here as you suggest but I will let you have the last word if you want.
Lee
I didn't say it was certain, I said it was more likely. I expected you to doubt the Robinson narrative, you didn't and in my opinion this makes you less based. I don't know why you took it so personally.
DeleteI told you to watch the videos, they are the ones that have the evidence.
It isn't ridiculous to believe it was possibly Mossad.
Not defensive Joanna, just clarifying that Peggy Hall admits all the time she has not figured it all out and her yoga background doesn't matter to me. We all have our journeys. I have never heard her talk about yoga and I have listened to her since covid scam in 2020 because I too needed help with exemptions and the false Catholic Church was of no help to me, even the traditional indult priest I knew who seemed to be only one in his diocese that didn't take the jab. How sad that Catholics who claim to be pro life all took it...they did where I live and now so many are dead including the priests. Their pro life work is now finished. Hope they saved their souls!
DeleteGod bless you too!
I've been following the back and forth in this thread and while I'm neutral about who killed Charlie Kirk I would like to say El poni albinegro has not been consistent nor answered questions. His/Her theory may be right but not impressing me as to why. I can see why Lee is getting frustrated with this individual because I would be mad too.
DeleteAs to the anonymous person who has entered the conversation above he/she said "I spend 90% of my time with Scriptures, sermons, saints and learning the faith. Been doing so for a long time probably to my own detriment." How could reading good material be to your own harm? Wouldn't it make more sense to say that about the junk you watch even it be 10% of your time?
I'm just a random observer. Not trying stir up any more debate/discussion. Hope everybody is well.-Martin
I must say that the only NO person who did help me was Sr Dede Byrne who is also a medical doctor. She is wonderful and also deceived by NO. Her brother is a bishop too. She helped many I know and she actually still helps on many medical issues for many even though she not near me. DC took away her medical license and then a NO attorney I know got it reinstated. They took it away bc she was prescribing ivermectin and saving lives instead of following evil protocols which were killing people. They have TLM in their monastery daily but I fear the brother bishop will keep her from the truth.
DeleteThe 90% is to my detriment because I don't focus on my state of life and my career which earns my living. I am a single woman so times are tough. I am an independent contractor and get sick if near vaxxed people so not many options. I lost the bulk of my business because I warned my clients of the vaxx and novus ordo lies. I had to spend this time to learn the Truth and God is so good to me. It took me 10 years of constant study and 5 to escape the r&r. Hard to accomplish this when I know no true Catholics and then discovered I have never had any true uncompromising sacraments my whole life.
DeleteI had a feeling you were crazy.-Martin
Delete"Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And weak men create hard times."
DeleteHey to Martin who doesn't want to stir up anything but calls people he doesn't know crazy...are you still a novus ordite?
DeleteSorry if I made you feel frustrated, Martin. I wasn't really interested on replying to Lee, and we both likely got confused as to what we were trying to communicate. I recommend we all stop fighting.
DeleteAnonymous
DeleteI don't need to know the person when their writing indicates all I need to know. Sorry for stirring you up. It doesn't seem like it takes much. I'm a Catholic not a novus ordite. What are you?
El poni albinegro
I appreciate the reply. I don't think you are fighting. Just trying to convey your positions. Nothing wrong with that. I think both of you are "based" although I don't know why you trust your theory so much. I don't think it's wrong to believe what Lee believes. He articulated his points well and that's what me and other readers are looking for. -Martin
Good for you Martin, that you not novus ordite! Interesting you can discern so much from these message boards and little glimpses of people herein. I see couples divorcing over miscommunication from texts or even language miscommunication, as in culture clashes. Towers of Babel everywhere. But you don't need to know much...great for you and your gift of deep insight! St Martin, pray for us
DeleteIf he was even killed...who knows. The New World Order evil globalists run the show here on earth, along with the Vatican in lockstep. Kirk like many "conservatives" have exhibited masonic symbols and hand gestures publicly, they like doing this. JPII and B16 did as well. All so disgusting.
ReplyDeleteI am a woman alone in this sede world. No spouse and know no sedes or anyone trying to be a true Catholic. Today I was professing the true faith in a store and 2 men, one the shop owner, just blasphemed the Lord over and over and uttered many lies (such as Jesus was not a virgin), "the Church made a big mistake in the 1500s when it said priests can't marry"...and so many of the other common errors. This all was in response to the comment I made to shop owner that I don't shop on Sundays, because he asked if I attended a recent Sunday auction. People in the shop of course sided with these men spouting nonsense and all they did was berate me and tell me I needed to get a clue and stop letting the Catholic Church lie to me. I even tried to tell them what all think is the Catholic Church...Is not. It is super crazy what most people believe...and so so sad...on the Most Sorrowful Feast of Our Lady...Mary, Jesus and Joseph, pray for us!
What you said is exceptionally courageous, my friend! Shame on those "men" who scorn God's law. They're only tough when they utter obscenities at a machine-gun rate. Otherwise, changing a light bulb is rocket science to them.
DeleteThey have six full days to shop as much as they need; is it really that heroic to refrain from strolling through shopping malls on Sunday? Just a few decades ago they would've been the ones to have fingers pointed at them for disrupting social order.
God Bless You,
Joanna
Thanks Joanna. I didn't feel courageous at all. I also should have said some other things too but I can't think in the heat of these moments. I was also shocked by some of the disgusting things he was saying about Jesus and his supposed sexual escapades that I just wanted to depart from such evil language as soon as possible. These men were much older than me too. They would have been exposed to the True Mass as they both went to Catholic school. They thought they were being civil but they were not at all. Very sad. Had nightmare about this last night too.
DeleteGod bless you too Joanna!
I'm sorry to hear that you have no intimate who holds the true Faith! I cannot imagine how difficult that would be. It is all the more remarkable also that you have found it and are clinging fast to it! When I feel lonely, I try to think of the Church Triumphant and seek friendship and solace there.
DeleteThank you Stephanie for kind words. You and Joanna and Introibo...
DeleteTW and Lee and all readers here are so good to me. Times are tough but I love the Lord and strive to love Him more, that comes with knowledge of Him. A daily preoccupation! A priest who mentors me from another country said below...it is hard but I know what he says is true and also confirms your church triumphant comment, thank you! God bless you and all here.
"Also, you still (or again?) look for likeminded souls around you. As much as this is understandable, it turns against your own good. Such a view is short-sighted, in the present circumstances, because effectively only very few who understand about the state of the Church (that she is not "in order" because lacking a true Pope, and the true hierarchy of ordinaries), are prepared to stand by this insight and follow it through. Our human nature becomes an obstacle in this regard since it does not like to be isolated... difficult business. It can only be overcome by the firm conviction that as members of the Church*** we are never alone, but members of the Communion of Saints. Certainly, it can be profitable to have like-minded souls around us - but practically that is not an automatic fix. Catholics in the "good old days" pestered each other and fought, rather than helping each other on the way to Heaven. The more things change, the more they remain the same, as the French say. (Even the temporary absence of a Pope and the hierarchy connected to the papacy, does not change anything in the Church, essentially.)
So if you write: "I do not like that word...sedevacantism. So I am still not 100% sure I have the True Faith." I fully agree that the term doesn't sound well - but the child needs to bear a name. The fact that there is no Pope, formally speaking, since Vatican2, is somehow (inadequately) expressed by this notion. What it does not mean (and I admit that many attendees of our Masses have trouble being clear on that), is that we need to hold a different version of the true religion nowadays. I am quite certain that you profess and hold the true Faith."
@anon9:34am
DeleteYou did a great job defending the Faith. You were in a tough situation. The fact that you tried to explain and defend the Faith to these men was still courageous. It doesn’t matter if they ignore you or never take what you said seriously. You tried to do what you could and that pleases Our Lord and Our Lady very much!
God bless you,
-TradWarrior
Thank you for generously sharing the advice that a priest kindly sent you. I would do well to ponder it myself. My husband and I moved to a more well-populated sedevacantist area with the idea of being part of a bigger Catholic community; what we have found is that the challenges of our state in life and unique personal circumstances make it difficult to maintain and nurture these relationships, even when both sides will it! I also like his discouragement of romanticizing Catholic society in previous times.
DeleteThank you for your kind words and blessing! God bless you too, and Mary keep you!
https://youtu.be/4FaDJZ4Rh5c?si=PsuznCaOpc1lEqN0
ReplyDeleteThis priest seems interesting. ABOVE link is part 1 of 2 talk re Fr Gommar DePauw letter to Paul6. His seemon this past Sunday BELOW I certainly liked because he knew of so much of the false world, that many here don't seem to know. I questioned his image of an unapproved apparition and he said he thought pre 1958 bishops approved...but the church didn’t. It is just another example for me...of not knowing who to trust, even in sede land.
https://youtu.be/zFc2sYCgJgU?si=uISQmRQWlO0Khq1f
And regarding Fr Lefort sermon re Fr Depauw...he brings up your story Introibo. The one about your lawyer friend and the LGBT people and wanting to destroy institution of marriage but as a ploy for their rights.
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DeleteReally? Can you give me at what time on the video? Thank you!
God Bless,
---Introibo
In the first link he begins around 11 min mark and it goes for a few minutes. Guess he read it on your site or heard you speak on it...great.
Delete@anon3:58
DeleteThank you very much!
God Bless,
---Introibo
The death penalty has always been upheld by the Catholic Church. It has been defended by St. Augustine, St. Thomas Aquinas, St. Robert Bellarmine, St. Alphonsus Liguori, Pope Innocent I, Pope Innocent III, Pope Pius IV, Pope Paul IV, Pope St. Pius V, the Tridentine Catechism, Pope Pius VI, Pope Pius VII, Pope Leo XII, Pope Pius VIII, Pope Gregory XVI, Pope Pius IX, Pope St. Pius X, and Pope Pius XII (not to mention many, many others). Giovanni Battista Bugatti was the official executioner of the Papal States. His methods of execution included criminals being decapitated with an axe or guillotine, slicing their throats, or being drawn and quartered. He executed over 500 criminals under the reigns of 6 popes.
ReplyDeleteThe V2 “popes” went from wanting capital punishment limited to very few cases (or no cases at all) to being completely banished from the planet. Once again, we have a teaching (among many) that was upheld very clearly from 33-1958AD, only to be completely turned on its head with the new conciliar religion.
The over emphasis on mercy over justice today is completely contrary to the Catholic Church’s teaching. Mercy and Justice are attributes of God. To exclude one is to exclude that God is perfect. The book “Purgatory” by Fr. F.X. Schouppe, S.J. shows the painful reality that many holy saints had to undergo a very painful Purgatory before they were allowed entry into Heaven to behold the beatific vision. Just as the modernist “popes” want to exclude justice in the physical realm on Earth by banishing capital punishment, so too do they want to exclude justice in the afterlife by focusing solely on mercy with the belief that everyone goes to heaven immediately at death.
-TradWarrior
TradWarrior
DeleteSo true, my friend!
God Bless,
---Introibo
Introibo,
ReplyDeleteYou have written several times about the 10 apparitions that have the explicit approval of the Catholic Church. What about “Our Lady of Vistula” which dealt with the Blessed Virgin Mary leading the Polish army over the Soviet Red Army. Cardinal Ratti (the future Pope Pius XI) was instrumental in praying for the success of the Polish army over the Soviets. Was this apparition not approved in time before Pope Pius XII died in 1958, thereby making its status “undetermined” since there is no longer a reigning pope to make a declaration on this apparition?
Joanna, I would like to hear your thoughts on this as well.
God Bless,
-TradWarrior
Trad Warrior,
DeleteOur Lady is said to have appeared twice (on the eve of the Assumption and on the very feast day) in two locations over the Polish troops on the battlefield leading to Warsaw. Some of the captured Bolsheviks testified that they saw a woman in the sky the very moment when Polish troops attacked the sleeping Bolsheviks in a night raid. The lady's wide, dark blue mantle was shining in the dark, sheltering Poles and the city of Warsaw. The woman was not afraid of the fighting; the bullets fired by the Bolsheviks seemed to bounce back at them - the lady threw the bullets back at the Bolsheviks who retreated in utter chaos like a bat out of hell!
One of the Bolsheviks, half-unconcious with fear, seeking shelter in a home of a country couple, in a village right next to Warsaw said that indeed the Mother of God threw the bullets back at them. Many Bolsheviks testified the same later when detained in POW camps.
I believe this apparition was never brought to the attention of the Holy See to be examined as an apparition in the strict sense as in Lourdes or Fatima because the seers were just the Bolsheviks to whom no message was directed, etc. It surely was an extraordinary example of divine intervention in the history of Poland, Europe, and the entire world.
Pope Pius XI had a Polish emigree artist paint a series of frescos at the Castel Gandolfo chapel, one of them being "The Miracle on the Vistula", depicting Our Lady over the Polish troops just as the Bolsheviks saw her (and a Polish priest, Fr. Skorupka, with a crucifix in his hand, leading young men into battle).
Montini had those paintings covered over (I guess too Catholic for his abominable Modernist taste?)!
Anyway, Pope Pius XI must've thought highly of Our Lady's intervention in the Battle of Warsaw even though the brief but powerful apparition was never addressed officially by the Vatican.
God Bless You,
Joanna
TradWarrior
DeleteJoanna is spot on. To the best of my knowledge and belief there has never been a Church ruling for or against that apparition.
God Bless,
---Introibo
Thank you, Joanna. I appreciate your explanation very much. That apparition is most likely true as I believed when I first read it, but absent a true pope, there will be no definitive ruling by Rome.
DeleteThank you, Introibo as well.
God bless you both!
-TradWarrior
Introibo:
ReplyDeleteWhat do you think of "Father" Ryan St. Anne Scott?
There is much info about him if you google his name.
DeleteSome info that I have is he was in a Novus Ordo Franciscan group where he left while still a novice with his homosexual lover and they both set up a so-called Benedictine group and were on the move all the time round the country to scam the aged out of money.
@anon8:45
Delete"Father" Ryan St. Anne Scott is a fraud and a convicted criminal. Have nothing to do with him if you value your soul.
God Bless,
---Introibo
Now I have to consider the Charlie Kirk shooting as a Fifth seal (Apoc. 6: 9-11) possibility. Had the Fifth figured as conjob19 in 2021 but this is looking like it's going alongside the other for now.
ReplyDeleteTradWarrior
ReplyDeleteI would like your thoughts on the una cum issue.Would you attend a valid SSPX Mass?
I can't see how Bishop Sanborn can hold this position when he holds the view that Leo is a Pope elect.Leo is half Pope and half not the Pope.I have many old books on the Papacy and there is no such teaching or theory.
God bless you
@anon12:55am
DeleteI would most likely stay a home aloner and not attend an SSPX church if I had no Sedevacantist church nearby. The R & R mentality of the SSPX makes no sense and is problematic on so many levels! Again, I do understand why some people would stay home and why others would attend an SSPX chapel. These are very tough times in which we are living.
Your opinion on Bishop Sanborn on this matter is very accurate. I do not understand either how he can take the opinion he does on this matter. The Thesis has never made sense to me.
God Bless you,
-TradWarrior
Thank you Steven for your thoughts on this subject.We always enjoy your work Introibo.A blessing to read this site every week.Last week a number like TradWarrior made comments about some traditional priests who are lazy and don't care about people.We would be interested to know your thoughts on a traditional sede priest who gave grave scandal for turning a blind eye to serious sin in exchange for a roof over his head and funds.This priest destroyed the possible vocations of several because they found out what he was doing.They saw things with their own eyes and were very shocked.One of them went back to the Novus Ordo for a while till they gave it all away.We do fear for that priests soul.We would value the views and comments of all.Thank you
ReplyDelete@anon4:56
DeleteA priest has a high calling. He cannot turn a blind eye to sin. That priest should be called out for what he did and his bishop informed. If he is an independent, let people know and boycott him.
Glad you enjoy my blog posts!
God Bless,
---Introibo
@anon4:56
DeleteCan you tell us his name and exactly what he did?
---Introibo
Right. Even a NO priest told me I had a duty to warn others of heterodox priest and not to go confession to him amd tell others same. This confession priest told me that homosexuals that are committed to one another are good and that Francis is trying to help them. Oh but it was still sinful for heterosexuals committed to one another to live together. Told pastor and he said until pope says homosexuals are good to go, still a sin. No joke. The confession priest was old too...so he was around pre V2. Things like this led me out of NO. This topic came up because I told him about a nun I know in her late 80s now publishing and congratulating homo marriages in alumni magazine. This was 8 years ago.
DeleteI am not TW but I would never go sspx. This group is RR but I think they right re comromise...
ReplyDeletehttps://catholiccandle.org/2020/04/02/a-compromise-groups-masses-and-sacraments-do-not-give-grace-because-the-end-does-not-justify-the-means/
Someone asked in comments about nuns leaving a group recently, can't recall specifically but Fr B Hughes mentions nuns leaving their group, fooled by NO externals. He mentions near end but this short sermon is excellent. I send to NOers often.
ReplyDeletehttps://traditionalcatholicsermons.org/FrBenedict/FrBenHug_ModernismPlannedAndExecuted_10-14-2012.mp3
Anon 4:56:
ReplyDeleteWho is this priest?
Can't say Introibo.We shutter to think of his judgement by God when he stands before him.To turn a blind eye to sin and then call those who exposed his two faced hypocrisy troublemakers is beyond words.Read any pre Vatican Two manual of theology and it says most priests go to hell.Frighting.
ReplyDeleteWe would also like to add that one of these young men who thought he had a vocation who had exposed the priest suffered trauma and was on the tip of a breakdown in health and mind.He disappeared to another chapel and then back to the Novus Ordo till he gave it all away.How very sad.My wife is still in shocked and this happened some time ago.Please pray for this man and the others that were hurt.God sees everything and in his time he will take action.
DeleteIntroibo:
ReplyDeleteDo you know why SSPV does summer catechism in places where they have no chapel, such as Oklahoma, California, and Virginia?
Looking at the pictures on the Daughters of Mary website,it only looks if there is one or two families in those places.May be they could develop into missions?
DeleteTradWarrior
DeleteAre you married with children or single?Had you thought when you were younger about becoming a priest or brother?What are your favourite devotions.Any Saints you have a strong devotion to?
God bless
C.T
Hi C.T,
DeleteI am a single male. I have never been married. When I was in the Novus Ordo growing up, I was told by SO MANY people that I would make a great priest. These comments continued over and over through the years. I heard this from so many people and all the time too. They very nice compliments! Now as a traditionalist, my career has taken me down a much different path and while anything is possible, I do not see myself being a priest. There are many devotions that I like. I pray the rosary daily, the Chaplet of St. Michael, various novenas, prayers to the Sacred Heart of Jesus and the Immaculate Heart of Mary, prayers to St. Joseph, etc. I wear several religious medals, as well as the brown and green scapular. In terms of favorite saints, I love them all! The Blessed Virgin Mary and St. Joseph are the highest but I love too many to name! St. Thomas Aquinas, St. Vincent Ferrer, St. Alphonsus Liguori, St. Gemma Galgani, St. Philomena, St. Teresa of Avila, Pope St. Pius X, St. Anthony of Padua, etc. There are many more too. It’s too hard to name just a few!
In terms of the vocation question, I am very content being single, but I remain very open to marriage and children if it is God’s will for my life. There have been several times over the course of my life where I thought that God put this female or that female in my path because “she” was very possibly the one I could end up with in life. It’s kind of funny because years ago, among several friends and acquaintances, many guys I knew felt like I would quite possibly be the first one married among all of us, and yet, I kind of felt deep down even back then that I would remain single and they would marry first. We would have group events with guys and girls who were friends and many of the guys suggested to me at numerous social functions that we attended that the girls were attracted to me and drawn more to me among all the guys present and in fairly large numbers. Yet one by one, several of them started to marry, but not me. At least not yet anyway (Lol).
Thank you for your questions.
-TradWarrior
@anon2:31
DeleteI never asked but it seems like it spreads the faith and could start a chapel someday.
God Bless,
---Introibo
Does anybody know the name of the priest that Anon 4:56 from yesterday mentioned?
ReplyDeleteSeeing as we're discussing recent events how about how it might relate to the 5th Seal ? (Scroll down for 5th Seal and the new addendum or click on 'updates' link)
ReplyDeletehttps://unmakingthering.blogspot.com/2024/10/5th-seal-adjustment-coming.html
This is an interesting link. Do we know who writes it? Fr Jenkins may be a good one to ask as he thinks CK was on his way to the True Faith, I guess with a pit stop in NO. Who knows...I liked the last section which begins as below...the author mentions Garabandal many times, but there are so many issues with that. I don't know enough about the 5th seal to comment but I do find all interesting to ponder, thanks! Glad this author does know about some of the scams too. Today is the 19th so perhaps conjob19 will further reveal itself...
Delete"Addendum to Fifth Seal: The Charlie Kirk Shooting (Sept. 18, 2025)
The Fifth Seal was figured to be the 'conjob19' which came to prominence in March 2020. The reasons are given above; but the Charlie Kirk shooting bears examination in that light, as there are obvious correlations with the Fifth Seal.
From the start it should be noted that, given the depths of the 'mystery of iniquity' and its 'operation of error' (2 Thess. 2:7, 10-11), nothing is off the table in regards to what may be real or false.
By this point many things have been said about the event, including that the apparent shooter is a patsy and someone (or some others) are responsible; and even that the event itself was staged in that Kirk was 'written out of the script' and not actually shot. Here we are not interested in answering those questions but we are interested in its possible application to the Fifth Seal.
One of the things to keep in mind is the polarizing effect it has had on many; on one side, people are shocked and sympathetic; on the other, they celebrate and are nasty. It is perhaps more accurate to say that the event is not so much polarizing as it is revealing. What it revealed is the depths of spiritual darkness of many; but it did not add to it.
There are three possibilities: Either they are both the 5th Seal (unlikely); or conjob19 prefigured Charlie Kirk as the locus of the 5th Seal's opening (unlikely); or this event is the 'sign' of when the martyrs' "fellow servants and their brethren...should be filled up". (The second possibility means that as the 'vaccine' is a 'type' of the mark of the beast, this shooting is a 'type' of martyrdom of those who are for the truth, however imperfectly).
The thing is, even if, for arguments' sake, the whole thing was a staged psyop (and for what reason that might be is not our consideration) the three possibilities still hold equally true..."
Yes, we know who writes it.
DeleteWho? You?
DeleteWho else ? I'm quite sure no one has that name, which I made up in '98. Anyway, about Garabandal, the point I always try to make is that it is a false prophecy that will actually be fulfilled. The devil set that up in 1961-65, and will use it to call attention to Rome and the antipapacy, and will be allowed to do it. Then the true Church has to show the world that the one in Rome cannot make claim to the papacy while contradicting those dogmas made by the true papacy. (Defined dogma has no changes or nuances so it is more effective than comparing tradition with V2 although that is part of the greater picture). Then people have to decide; if they are logical, which means having a priority for the truth, they will see. The last 10-15 years in particular have seen a plethora of illogical things, as if training people in contradiction.
DeleteI think the false prophecy fulfilled is the sixth seal, partly because having an explanation for the first five means the sixth is next; and also, way back, it was noted that, whatever else might have happened by the early 2000's, the sixth seal definitely did not happen yet, as it looks to be quite obvious when it does.
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ReplyDeleteDear Introibo,
Thank you for covering the "Death Penalty".
I still have some questions regarding this subject, that I hope you can help with with.
Some time ago I watched the movie "Trial by Fire" (2018) starring Jack O'Connell and Laura Dern in lead roles, which depicts the case of Cameron Todd Willingham (1968-2004), who was convicted and executed for the murder of his three young children by arson at the family home on December 23, 1991.
Undeniable proof provided by well-regarded scientists and experts – specifically Dr Hurst who is considered one of the foremost experts on arson in the world, show that Willingham was innocent.
Hurst said, "The whole case was based on the purest form of junk science. There was no item of evidence that indicated arson."
Just this one story of an innocent man being put to death for a crime he didn’t commit is really sad and outrageous (considering all the information put forth in the movie and articles on this case).
Since 1973 at least 200 individuals sentenced to death in the United States have been exonerated, while over 1,630 have been executed. This means that for every eight people executed in the modern era, one person has been proven innocent and released from death row.
So there is a significant risk of executing innocent individuals.
That is why I have a problem with the Death Penalty. Not because I believe that very evil people (for example mass murderers like Lenin or Stalin; or serial murderers – where there is not a shadow of a doubt that they have committed the crimes; some even boast about their evil deeds, so there is no doubt about their guilt), don’t deserve the Death Penalty, but because of innocent people receiving the Death Penalty (one cannot even begin to imagine what these pour souls, sometimes spending years on death row just to finally be put to death, must be going through!).
Even Jesus Christ, the founder of our Holy Religion, was innocently sentenced to death and executed. Examples such as that of St. Joan of Orleans also show that even an ecclesiastical court (the ecclesiastical court that tried her was stacked with clerics sympathetic to the English) can be "mistaken" and condemn innocent people to death. She was convicted of heresy, including charges related to wearing men's clothes and defying church authority, and burned at the stake in Rouen in 1431.
My personal opinion: As long as innocently convicted people are "only" imprisoned, there is still the possibility of proving their innocence, which means getting them released. However, once innocent people have been executed, this possibility, of course, no longer exists.
So, what – from a Catholic perspective – is to be said about the opinion that, while one approves of the Death Penalty for certain very evil crimes (for example mass murder), one nevertheless opposes the Death Penalty simply because innocent people are repeatedly executed (judges make errors, sometimes even intentional "mistakes"; in general, every human being is fallible – think of Original Sin in this regard).
If "the whole world lieth in wickedness" (1 John 5:19), how can we expect justice from the court system?
This is a good question however you do know people are executed without even knowing they are, such as through the medical industry with euthanasia, drugs, surgery etc. 3rd leading cause of death...medical "errors"...it is all intentional as this was the Rockefeller goal.
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ReplyDeleteThere have been several well-known cases of judicial scandals in the recent history of the Federal Republic of Germany, for example the case of "Gustl Mollath", who was placed in a "psychiatric hospital" by the judiciary in 2006. His true "crime"? He exposed money laundering dealings of influential people (the district judge even prohibited Mollath from speaking about money laundering during the trial!) – he accused his wife, who was working as a financial advisor for a large bank at the time, of being involved too.
Mollath was said to have "beaten and choked his wife" in 2003, but considering all the facts it seems to have been lies to silence his voice – his wife had even been heard saying: „If Gustl reports me or my bank, I'll take him down.“. After all, no one would take criminal charges from a "mentally ill person" seriously.
After hearing about this case, a well-known Attorney, Gerhard Strate (who has been a lawyer and expert in criminal law since 1979), decided to defend Mollath and finally got him released. Strate even wrote a book about this case („Der Fall Mollath: Vom Versagen der Justiz und Psychiatrie“ [„The Mollath case: The failure of the justice system and psychiatry“]), which was released on the market in 2015.
Another book about this case is „Staatsverbrechen – der Fall Mollath: Das vorsätzliche Verbrechen an Gustl Mollath zwischen Schwarzgeld-Millionen, Vertuschung und der Rolle der CSU“ („State crimes – the Mollath case: The deliberate crime against Gustl Mollath between millions in undeclared money, cover-up and the role of the CSU“), released in 2021.
So, I wonder what would have happened if Germany would have the Death Penalty and the courts would be presented with a case such as "Gustl Mollath", where a decent person tries to expose the corruption of powerful, well-connected people. Would it be out of the question, that these influential people would perhaps try to get someone like Mollath to receive the Death Penalty just to silence his voice? I am happy that Germany does not have the Death Penalty and Gustl Mollath had the chance to be released to freedom (after seven long years).
Consider also the following story: „Bishop Dolan and Fr Joseph Collins were instrumental in converting Ohio State Death Row inmate Joseph Murphy to Catholicism. Dolan baptized and confirmed Murphy after a period of religious instruction and corresponded and regularly conferred sacraments upon Joseph Murphy.“
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Dolan)
Here is more to this story:
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=3772212859735450&set=pcb.1007605330786047
If somebody (let’s say a person, who really did commit an evil crime) has already been executed, there is no chance of him converting to Catholicism anymore, because he is dead.
Don't you think God's Justice rules, regardless. Perhaps these people suffer to save their souls?
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ReplyDeleteEditor’s Note: This video, above, was made 5 years ago, so no one can say the speaker has a bias regarding the Kirk Assassination. Everything the Government is telling us about this act of terrorism is a lie. — The model being used is scientifically designed to replicate a real human injury when hit by a bullet.
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ReplyDeleteAs long as someone is still alive he also still has time to do good (for example, by writing a book from jail to educate other people and prevent them from making the same "mistakes" as he did).
To summarize: Because of all this (innocent people being put to death [even the Son of God Himself – I sometimes ask myself how the Catholic Church can be in favor of the Death Penalty, if even Christ Himself, the founder of the Catholic Religion/Church, was innocently put to death by a kangeroo court – and people like St. Joan of Orleans], giving guilty people a chance to convert to the true faith (as was the case of Death Row inmate Joseph Murphy), giving guilty people a chance to still do good in this life) I am against the Death Penalty.
Again, not because I am against the death penalty for (very) evil people regarding terrible crimes they have committed per se (for example mass murderers, when there is not a shadow of a doubt that they have committed their hideous crimes), but because of the reasons I just mentioned.
So what is your opinion on these matters; do Christians simply have to accept innocent people being murdered by the state for crimes they didn’t commit? Are these deaths simply "collateral damage" that must be accepted by Catholics?
Your answers are very much appreciated.
And thank you very much for taking the time to answer them (I really hope, you find the time).
God bless you,
- Frank (Germany)
I like your questions Frank. I am not the one to answer but.... I often think of an NO priest who is in jail for 2 decades now. He writes a blog. I still wonder with all his confinement why he hasn't found the True Church yet. His name is Gordon MacRae, Beyond these stone walls is name of blog fyi.
DeleteFrom what I have read that true popes wrote on death penalty makes perfect sense.
Frank,
DeleteI'll give you the basic principles. Christ was an innocent victim of capital punishment, but never condemned it. Indeed, St. Dismas (the Good Thief) stated, "We [himself and the unrepentant thief] are punished justly, for we are getting what our deeds deserve. But this Man has done nothing wrong." (St. Luke 23:41). Christ would have corrected him had capital punishment been intrinsically evil.
The State has the right to remove someone from "the body politic" by death so as to prevent further serious problems against law-abiding citizens. Moreover, the criminal, now faced with death, has time to repent and gain salvation.
A good law in principle is not vitiated by possible bad consequences anymore than a basically evil law is not made good by possible good consequences.
Abortion is intrinsically evil--the murder of an innocent unborn baby. It cannot be justified because the family would be more financially well off with one less child.
Capital punishment is intrinsically moral, but sometimes innocent people are killed who didn't commit the crime.
There are many cases of wrongly convicted people who spent years in jail and died there, only to be found innocent posthumously. Does that mean we should abolish prison because of these tragedies?
I hope that helps!
God Bless,
---Introibo
Dear Introibo,
DeleteYes, thank you. That makes sense what you stated.
Again, thank you very much for this understandable answer and God bless you!
- Frank (Germany)
Here is a video for anyone to take or leave. Did anyone know Charlie K and George Floyd have same birthday? So many coincidences in the freemasonic shows. JPII said there are no coincidences...🙃
ReplyDeletePeople pointing out obvious inconsistencies are not kooks in my humble opinion. They are taking images and info directly from MSM and even the people involved. So no one thinks odd how CK wife could give such long speech and speak about dead husband in present tense?
https://www.youtube.com/live/tDgsyjWC144?si=gL7bVziZN7fKiyD1
This sede priest says opposite of Fr Jenkins re CharLIE K
ReplyDeleteI learned things I never knew about St Matthew
https://youtu.be/YIocThIuuSc?si=FzDBq-H7HTUak5fV
Sounds good Poni! The CK incident is a psyop to move the New World Order Govt and religion forward.
ReplyDeleteThe Kirk memorial is so orchestrated and mocks God! They are painting him as the new Jesus. All the speakers are so polished, how perfect to keep spoon feeding the sheep! His name is Charlie James Kirk supposedly, and one person did a star trek pose. What nonsense. And the official pic they chose mimics a famous pic of Hitler! This is Joel Osteen on steroids.
ReplyDeleteThe CONSERVATIVE NOers are drooling over this circus of CharLIE. They are mocking God on SUNDAY over and over. Oh my! Lord please forgive us, for we know not what we do.
ReplyDeleteNo tears and all actors suddenly love Christ. And keep comparing him to the first martyr...they are saying Steven, not St Stephen.. Amazing Grace for all these freemason Bible thumpers!
The freemasons picked this day the feast of St Matthew, who wrote the first Gospel and is the only Gospel which proclaims this...
Matthew 16:18
"And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church"
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone know about this? This was a meme so I had to copy the text to post. This post contains many bits of info which seem scary.
MITHRAS
APOLLO LIBERTAS
CONSTANTINE COINS WITH HIS DEITY APOLLO
ASCORS DE BOY
OKER
EDICT OF CONSTANTINE
@The Besorah In 321 the Edict of Constantine enforced the day of the sun on the entire Roman Empire: "Let all the judges and town people, and the occupation of all trades, rest on the venerable day of the sun, but let those who are situated in the country, freely and at full liberty, attend to the business of
agriculture; because it often happens that no other day is so fit for sowing corn and planting vines; lest the critical moment being let slip, men should lose the commodities granted by heaven."
This edict produced the Christian practice of resting on Sunday, or dies solis. In 325 more paganism was adopted by setting a uniform date for Easter, a fertility festival common to all pagan cultures. Easter is the Great Mother Ishtar, called the "mother of harlots" by the book of Revelation.
The message of AliYahu for the last days is to remember the Torah of Mosheh (Malaki 4:1-6). He confronted Izebel over the worship of Baal and Asherah, and her teachings still persist to the end (Rev. 2:20). Constantine wanted nothing in common with the people of Yahusha, including their Covenant. His words are quoted by Eusebius in his Ecclesiastical History:
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DeleteIt’s all nonsense. See my post:
http://introiboadaltaredei2.blogspot.com/2018/08/should-traditionalists-celebrate.html?m=0
God Bless,
—-Introibo
Thank you. Helps alot! I like the part about Santa too. I told my sister 15 years ago we cannot tell her newborn son that Santa is a thing...she disagreed and "can't live like amish" so things have been tough since. She like many are defending CK as the the new Christ...he loved God and brought many to Christ ya know...just like Luther did.
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DeleteSanta Claus is Masonic and grotesque. You are lying to children about a god-like being. This will undermine belief in God and trust in parents. It did for me. Thankfully, I overcame my disillusionment. You are correct. Your sister did a disservice to her child.
God Bless,
—-Introibo
Wow, wish I knew anyone who would back me up back then or now. No such luck. All is sad and dark. Thanks for answer!
DeleteSeeing some commentary about the CK murder and the word 'psyop'.
ReplyDeleteDidn't see the memorial but it seems some thinks it is part of a psyop. First, it wasn't faked; second, it wasn't the patsy; third everything afterwards is damage control to very deliberately and even desperately deflect suspicions from the people who are really behind it. Anything that may be classified as 'psyop' is subordinate to that goal.
But it seems to me they won't be stopping those suspicions from growing and growing.
The 'mystery of iniquity' is close to certain goals in the mid-east; they won't let anyone get in their way. The thing is they don't realize that the devil never intended for their plans to be fulfilled anyway.
Interesting considering you wrote the text above re all the fakery...so this comment makes no sense. How do you know nothing is faked? "Everything afterwards is damage control"? Why if nothing is faked? You should glimpse just 5 minutes of the CharLIE Show...it was NO insanity like I have never seen. All masonic acting was perfecto!
DeleteDid you read henrymakow.com of Sept. 19? The shooter is on film. That wasn't faked. I didn't say nothing was faked; the narrative is false, but the event wasn't a fake.
DeleteEverything afterwards is to divert from CK's beginning to turn from supporting 'isreal'. To do this includes all NO insanity, religious indiffentism in that regard, etc. 'They' will never let anything get in the way of their middle east plans esp. as it is so close now. Everything is subordinate to that. Even the antichurch, until the devil's double cross arrives which they're not seeing coming.(6th seal event).
Also this story is on his site...
ReplyDeleteCharlie Kirk was murdered by a member of his staff.
Mike Stone gives nine reasons the prevailing narrative is bogus.
Introibo:
ReplyDeleteI would be very interested in your response to this brief excerpt of a new book on the liturgy appended on Mr. Z's website, particularly regarding the claim that Roncalli, as 'pope', adhered to the pre-1955 Holy Week. I recall a most lively discussion re the Pian liturgical reforms during Holy Week:
https://wdtprs.com/2025/09/review-lumen-christi-defending-the-use-of-the-pre-1955-roman-rite/