- The existence and attributes of God
- The truth of the One True Church established by Christ for the salvation of all
- The truth of a particular dogma or doctrine of the Church
- The truth of Catholic moral teaching
- The truth of the sedevacantist position as the only Catholic solution to what has happened since Vatican II
The Titles of the Blessed Mother
Christ's Mother is constantly under attack in the godless world and in the Counterfeit Catholicism of the Vatican II sect. On the Feast of the Most Holy Rosary, Robert Prevost ("Pope" Leo XIV), signed the document Mater Populi Fidelis ("The Mother of the Faithful People of God"). It was a direct attack on the Mother of God's titles as Co-Redemptrix and Mediatrix of All Grace. The lies of the Vatican II sect and the truth about the Blessed Mother's titles shall be the subject of this post.
The Lies of the Vatican II Sect
Mater Populi Fidelis (MPF) has this to say about Mary's title as Co-Redemptrix:
The Second Vatican Council refrained from using the title for dogmatic, pastoral, and ecumenical reasons. Saint John Paul II referred to Mary as “Co-redemptrix” on at least seven occasions, particularly relating this title to the salvific value of our sufferings when they are offered together with the sufferings of Christ, to whom Mary is united especially at the Cross. (See para. #18; Emphasis mine).
On at least three occasions, Pope Francis expressed his clear opposition to using the title “Co-redemptrix,” arguing that Mary “never wished to appropriate anything of her Son for herself. She never presented herself as a co-Savior. No, a disciple.” Christ’s redemptive work was perfect and needs no addition; therefore, “Our Lady did not want to take away any title from Jesus… She did not ask for herself to be a quasi-redeemer or a co-redeemer: no. There is only one Redeemer, and this title cannot be duplicated.” Christ “is the only Redeemer; there are no co-redeemers with Christ.” For “the sacrifice of the Cross, offered in a spirit of love and obedience, presents the most abundant and infinite satisfaction.” While we are able to extend its effects in the world (cf. Col 1:24), neither the Church nor Mary can replace or perfect the redemptive work of the incarnate Son of God, which was perfect and needs no additions. (See para. #21).
Given the necessity of explaining Mary’s subordinate role to Christ in the work of Redemption, it is always inappropriate to use the title “Co-redemptrix” to define Mary’s cooperation. (See para. #22).
MFP has this to say about the venerable title "Mediatrix of All Grace:"
In 1921, Cardinal Mercier, Archbishop of Mechelen — with the scholarly collaboration of the Catholic University of Louvain and the support of the bishops, clergy, and laity of Belgium — petitioned Pope Benedict XV to issue a dogmatic definition of Mary’s universal mediation. However, the Holy Father did not grant this request; he only approved a feast with its own Mass and the Office of Mary Mediatrix. From then until 1950, theological research on this question continued to develop up to the preparatory phase of the Second Vatican Council. The Council did not enter into dogmatic declarations but preferred to present an extensive synthesis “of Catholic doctrine on the place to attribute to the Blessed Virgin Mary in the mystery of Christ and the Church.” (See para. #23).
The Second Vatican Council’s terminology regarding mediation primarily refers to Christ; it sometimes also refers to Mary, but in a clearly subordinate manner. In fact, the Council preferred to use a different terminology for her: one centered on cooperLumen Gentiumation or maternal assistance. (See para. #27).
The Elephant in the Room: Ecumenism
The "Dicastery for the Doctrine [Destruction] of the Faith" put out this document (and signed by Prevost) for one reason only: to denigrate the Mother of God in the name of ecumenism. The sect is founded on the false ecclesiology that the Church of Christ is distinct from the Roman Catholic Church. The Church of Christ resides there in its fullness because the Catholic Church has all the "elements" of the Church of Christ, however it can reside in other sects (more or less) according to how many "elements" they possess. To have all the elements is best, but to have only some is just as good and leads to salvation. (See Lumen Gentium, para. #8: This is the one Church of Christ which in the Creed is professed as one, holy, catholic and apostolic, which our Savior, after His Resurrection, commissioned Peter to shepherd, and him and the other apostles to extend and direct with authority, which He erected for all ages as "the pillar and mainstay of the truth." This Church constituted and organized in the world as a society, subsists in the Catholic Church, which is governed by the successor of Peter and by the Bishops in communion with him, although many elements of sanctification and of truth are found outside of its visible structure.).
From a Protestant commenting on MPF:
While I am not Roman Catholic, in recent years I have held a growing conviction that Roman Catholicism is a great gift to the body of Christ. Wesleyans and Catholics share a theological confluence on sanctification that deserves more attention at popular and congregational levels than it receives. The Second Vatican Council's statement on sanctification in Lumen Gentium stands as one of modern theology's most profound and pastoral reflections on holiness. Surprisingly, Rome's new clarification on Mary offers Wesleyans an unexpected entry point for continuing conversation on holiness. This essay argues that while significant dogmatic differences remain, Mater Populi Fidelis articulates a Mariology that resonates with core Wesleyan theological commitments, particularly Wesley's understanding of cooperation with grace and the social nature of sanctification. (See https://firebrandmag.com/articles/mother-of-the-faithful-a-wesleyan-reading-of-mater-populi-fidelis).
Protestantism hasn't changed. If MPF "resonates with core Wesleyan [Methodist] theological commitments" especially cooperation with grace and the social nature of sanctification, than the Vatican II sect's document is heretical (no surprise there).
Weighty Theological Arguments for "Co-Redemptrix"
While the title had theological opposition pre-Vatican II, MPF simply glosses over the compelling reasons advanced in favor of the title Co-Redemptrix:
(See theologian Carol's Mariology, [1956] pgs. 56-65)
Seems very Catholic, does it not? However, even more importantly, the title Mediatrix of All Grace was going to be defined by Pope Pius XII.
Mary is the Mediatrix of All Grace
During the days of the last true pope, His Holiness Pope Pius XII, the pontiff had requested some theologians to become part of a commission to survey the world's bishops regarding their opinion on a dogmatic definition of the Blessed Virgin Mary as Mediatrix of All Grace. Anticipating a positive outcome of the poll, the Holy Father also instructed them to prepare a draft of an Apostolic Constitution defining the dogma. Fr. DePauw knew at least two theologians appointed to that commission, and he too, believed that Mary's role as Mediatrix could (and should) be formally defined ex cathedra as a dogma of Divine and Catholic Faith.
Less than a year later, Pope Pius XII died, and Roncalli ("Pope" John XXIII) scrapped the entire project as being "offensive to Protestants." Then there was to be an entire document on the Mother of God at Vatican II. The orthodox theologians in the Preparatory Commission drew up the schemata to be named DOGMATIC CONSTITUTION ON THE BLESSED VIRGIN MARY, MOTHER OF GOD, AND MOTHER OF MEN. Within it, Mary was defined as Mediatrix of All Grace and Co-Redemptrix. It, too, was relegated to the trash bin by a slim majority of stalwart Modernist bishops. The final vote to retain the Constitution failed; 1,097 bishops voted to keep the Constitution on the Blessed Virgin Mary, and 1,114 bishops voted to completely eliminate the Constitution altogether.
(N.B. Below, I have compiled and condensed the Mariology works of theologians Garrigou-Lagrange, Pohle, O'Connell, Neubert, and Carol. I take credit only for condensing the information from these sources. Furthermore, I have avoided, as much as possible, technical theological terminology that would need elaboration. In this way, I hope to make the explanations as easy to understand as possible for the average Traditionalist who has no advanced study in philosophy or theology.---Introibo).
1. The Meaning of the Prerogative
Mary is the one through whom all graces are bestowed upon humanity. Just as no one goes to the Father, except through Jesus Christ, so too, no one goes to Jesus except through His Immaculate Mother. By the term "all grace" it is meant just that: all sanctifying grace, actual grace, infused virtues, the Gifts of the Holy Ghost, and all favors in the natural order (insofar as they may help attain eternal life) come to us through Mary. Why do all graces come through Mary? Primarily, because she gave us the author of grace, the God-Man Jesus Christ through her virginal womb. Secondarily, through her participation in her Divine Son's Passion as Co-Redemptrix, she subordinately to Christ and in virtue of His power, cooperated in His redemptive work, and she should therefore have a certain right to cooperate with Him in the distribution of the graces He so merited.
Protestants will object that the Bible teaches there is but one Mediator between God and humanity; Jesus Christ (See, e.g., 1 Timothy 2:5). However, while this is true, Mary, as Mother of God and Mother of Men, serves as a bond between people and her Son. Her mediation, far from diminishing or replacing that of Christ, results from His mediation and seems to complete it: it is carried out under Christ and in union with Christ from Whom it receives all its efficacy.
Mary, by her intersession, allows all graces to flow to humanity throughout all space and time. Those prior to Mary's Assumption received grace in view of the future merits of Our Lady, and since her Assumption, all receive grace through her intercession. This does not mean we must ask for God's grace in Mary's name, but rather, whether she is invoked or not, we get the graces through her intercession.
2. Holy Scripture indicates this prerogative
In Genesis 3:15 we read, "I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; They will strike at your head, while you strike at their heel." Our Lady is shown as intimately united with Christ in the whole process of redemption. Since the actual dispensation of grace is but an aspect of that whole process, it follows that Mary should be part of it. Mary's intercessory power is seen at the first miracle of Christ wrought at Cana (St. John 2:1-11), and in the sanctification of St. John the Baptist while in the womb of St. Elizabeth (St. Luke 1:41).
3. Sacred Tradition indicates this prerogative
There is no exact explicit mention of Mary as the "Mediatrix" in the first few centuries. but the root of the teaching was definitely with the Church Fathers:
St. Ambrose of Milan (c. 339-397) wrote:
Mary was alone when the Holy Spirit came upon her and overshadowed her. She was alone when she saved the world — operata est mundi salutem – and when she conceived the redemption of all — concepit redemptionem universorum.
St. Ephraem of Syria (c. 306-373) called Mary the “dispensatrix of all goods.”
St. Cyril of Alexandria (d. 444) wrote:
Hail, Mary, Mother of God, by whom all faithful souls are saved.
Mary, as Mediatrix of All Grace, is implicitly revealed in the different titles which Tradition gives Mary—that of Mother of God, most powerful in intercession with her Son, that of the new Eve intimately associated with the Redeemer, that of Mother of all men. Besides, it is a doctrine explicitly and formally affirmed by the morally unanimous consent of Fathers and Doctors of the Church, of preaching throughout the Church, and of the Liturgy.
4. The Magisterium positively teaches the prerogative through papal pronouncements
We judge nothing more powerful and better for this purpose than by religion and devotion to deserve well of the great Mother of God, the Virgin Mary, who is the treasurer of our peace with God, and the mediatrix of graces....(Pope Leo XIII, Supremi Apostolatus officio; Emphasis mine).
... it is right to say, that nothing at all of that very great treasury of all grace which the Lord brought us--for 'grace and truth came through Jesus Christ' (Jn 1.17)--nothing is imparted to us except through Mary, since God so wills, so that just as no one can come to the Father except through the Son, so in general, no one can come to Christ except through His Mother. (Pope Leo XIII, Octobri mense; Emphasis mine).
Hence that never dissociated manner of life and labors of the Mother and the Son... . there stood by the Cross of Jesus His Mother, not merely occupied in looking at the dreadful sight, but even rejoicing that 'her only Son was being offered for the salvation of the human race; and so did she suffer, with Him, that if it had been possible, she would have much more gladly suffered herself all the torments that her Son underwent' (St. Bonaventure I. Sent. d, 48, ad Litt. dub. 4). Now from this common sharing of will and suffering between Christ and Mary, she 'merited to become most worthily the Reparatrix of the lost world' (Eadmer, De Excellentia Virginis Mariae, 9) and therefore Dispensatrix of all the gifts which Jesus gained for us by His Death and by His Blood.... But Mary as St. Bernard fittingly remarks (De Aquaeductu 4) is the 'channel' or, even, the neck, through which the body is joined to the head, and likewise through which the head exerts its power and strength on the body. 'For she is the neck of our Head, by which all spiritual gifts are communicated to His Mystical Body.' (Pope St. Pius X, Ad diem illum; Emphasis mine).
For he [St. Dominic] knew well that Mary ... has such influence with her divine Son, that He confers whatever of graces He confers on humans, does so always with her as minister and decision-maker. (Pope Benedict XV, Fausto appetente die; Emphasis mine).
... we know also that all things are imparted to us from God the Greatest and Best, through the hands of the Mother of God. (Pope Pius XI, Ingravescentibus malis; Emphasis mine).
... having been associated, as Mother and Minister, with the King of martyrs in the ineffable work of human Redemption, she is always associated, with a practically measureless power, in the distribution of the graces that derive from the Redemption.... And her kingdom is as vast as that of her Son and God, since nothing is excluded from her dominion. (Pope Pius XII, Radio Address to Fatima, May 13, 1946; Emphasis mine).
Objection: Sacramental graces are effectuated ex opere operato ("by the work worked [done]"). As long as the proper administer uses the correct matter and form, with the intention to do what the Church does, the sacrament will confer grace to any recipient who does not place an obstacle (obex) in the way. Therefore, Mary is not needed, and does not dispense sacramental graces.
Reply: Mary mediates sacramental grace in two ways. Remotely, she gave us Christ, Who as True God and True Man instituted the sacraments; and sacramental grace was merited by her together with, and subordinately to, Jesus Christ as Co-Redemptrix. Proximately, to have the very desire to receive the sacraments, and the proper dispositions to do so worthily, are the effects of actual graces which come about only through the intercession of Mary Immaculate.
Did Vatican II Really Refrain from Using Mary's Titles?
Yes, but for pastoral/ecumenical reasons that were heretical, not for dogmatic reasons as falsely stated by MPF. What really gives the lie to all this Modernist claptrap is the original schema proposed by the orthodox theologians under Cardinal Ottavianni.

The V2 sect is the center of the ecumenical world religion created by the Robber Council. It rejects Marian titles so as not to offend Protestants, but it offends the Blessed Virgin and Almighty God. The wrath of God weighs heavily on the apostate Vatican as a result of all the heresies, blasphemies, sacrileges, and public acts of apostasy committed by the modernist entity. It will not be a pretty sight when Heaven unleashes its fury upon it ! I try to pray the Rosary every day during Lent; it is a good way to earn divine graces.
ReplyDeleteSimon,
DeletePraying the Rosary every day is something we all should be doing!
God Bless,
---Introibo
Thank you Intriobo! For this most needed post!!!
ReplyDeleteJohn,
DeleteThank you my friend! Continued prayers for your health and your family.
God Bless,
---Introibo
A very important post indeed! I already sent to Novus Ordites hoping they will open their eyes!
ReplyDeleteThank you!
@anon6:38
DeleteGlad you found it helpful, my friend!
God Bless,
---Introibo
It is somewhat ironic that the Magisterium (Dimond brothers) located at Fillmore, NY, has been attacking Our Lady's Co-Redemptrix title for more years than I can remember - thus aligning themselves with Nope Leo 14 (Sideshow Bob) and his anti-Catholic cult, not to mention other enemies of the Faith. The Popes who used it were obviously in error, so one can thank God that He sent us the Dimonds to save us from Papal heterodoxy [sarcasm]!
ReplyDeleteLeo
Leo.
DeleteHeresy makes strange bedfellows, doesn't it? LOL
Fred, Bobby, and Rob!
God Bless,
---Introibo
The Co-Redemptrix subject of this post, is almost sure to get at least some Dimondites, all riled up with indignation. About this subject, isn't the Dimwit Duo allied with Pope Prevost?
ReplyDeleteDear Anonymous at 11:59 PM,
DeleteShouldn't that be NOPE (= Non-pope) Prevost? Yes, the DD's are most definitely allied with him: a "marriage" made in Heaven! 🤮 🤣
Leo
@anon11:59
DeleteYes, the Dimwits and Prevost! The Dimondites seem to be taking a break--for how much longer, who knows?
God Bless,
---Introibo
A great writing as always. I have a deep devotion to our Lady and it was through her that I came to the True Faith. I was raised High Church of England and as a teenager starting praying the Rosary. One day I might do a detailed writing here of my conversion story. Much pain , loss of friends and many other trials. Having said that , I have also faced trials and many disappointments in the Traditional Catholic world .
ReplyDeleteDear Anonymous at 7:50 PM,
DeleteAs I know/knew some "High Church" Anglicans who converted to the Faith, your comments resonate with me. I, for one, would be very interested in reading an account of your conversion. As for the problems and other issues you have faced in the "Traditional Catholic world", believe you me, we cradle Catholics have experienced just the same, so we know where you are coming from. A very sad thing that I have witnessed is converts from Anglicanism falling for the vomit that is "Novus Bogusism" - jumping from the frying pan into the fire, as it were. Some embraced it enthusiastically! On the other hand, I had a pious Anglican friend who recognised the Great Apostasy for what it was, even before becoming a Catholic. His faith never wavered, not even as a so-called "Home Aloner", and his strong devotion to Our Blessed Lady put me to shame.
Hang in there! Remain fortes in fide!
Leo
@anon7:50
DeleteCongratulations o finding the One True Church through the intercession of the BVM! Continue to pray her Rosary, and you are in my prayers to persevere in the Faith! Don't let the disappointments get you down; its the truth that matters.
God Bless,
---Introibo
@anon7:50pm,
DeleteYour comment resonated with me. I empathize with you in what you wrote. I too lost several people in my life when I became a traditional Catholic. They are Novus Ordo. I have also had some very bad experiences with some traditional Catholics too (clergy and lay people alike), so I do understand where you are coming from. Stay strong and keep your eyes focused on the Faith. People are fickle and change a lot. It is human nature. I have seen and experienced it myself many times. I actually was meditating on this recently. Think about Jesus. He didn’t have to come to Earth at all to suffer and die for us. At one moment, the people are laying palm branches before Him saying, “Hosanna to the Son of David,” and shortly after that, they are shouting “Crucify Him! Crucify Him!” You cannot put your complete trust in people. We are fallen creatures and you will be let down time after time. This does not mean that you should not trust people on some level, only that God is the only one that you can completely trust.
I will keep you in my prayers.
God bless you,
-TradWarrior
Hello Anon 7.50PM
ReplyDeleteThank you for your comment and how our Lady brought you to the True Faith. We agree with Leo- Hang in there. We too have faced many trials and disappointments including having to go through a bad and very sad time with a bad and evil sede priest who did untold damage to souls.
You are in our prayers
J and S
Introibo,
ReplyDeleteVery nice article (as always)! There were several prophecies in the 20th century that stated that true peace would reign on Earth when the 5th (and final) Marian dogma would be proclaimed – Mary as ‘Mediatrix of all Grace’ and as ‘Co-Redemptrix’. This may or may never occur, as there may never be a 5th Marian dogma proclaimed, let alone another true pope.
Speaking of peace, this last week in the geopolitical sphere has been very interesting. The US and Israel have waged war against Iran. The last few years has already seen wars between the Ukraine and Russia and the constant wars in the Middle East have escalated between the Israelis and Palestinians. The amount of nations that instantly became affected this last week by this war increased substantially as soon as these bombings started. Nations such as China, Russia, England, Qatar, Bahrain, Iraq, Dubai, Kuwait, and several others were directly affected whether economically, militarily, politically, or otherwise. Some major nations and some minor nations were quickly affected. This reminded me of World War I where several nations entered the fray very quickly. Within a week, things escalated very quickly. And then following that, things continued to escalate and spread far-reaching over the globe. Archduke Franz Ferdinand was assassinated. Austria-Hungary declared war on Serbia. Germany declared war on Russia. Germany declared war on France. Germany invaded Belgium. Britain declared war on Germany. Austria-Hungary declared war on Russia. Serbia declared war on Germany. Montenegro entered against Austria-Hungary and Germany. France and Britain declared war on Austria-Hungary. Japan declared war on Germany. The Ottoman Empire joined the Central Powers against Russia/Britain/France. Italy broke from the Triple Alliance and joined the Allies. Bulgaria joined the Central Powers. Romania and Greece joined the Allies. The United States declared war on Germany. Before you knew it, the Allied Powers (Entende) and the Central Powers had so many nations on each side and the bloodshed was massive. I watched at what transpired over this last week or so, and it was reminiscent of World War I and what could easily be the start of World War III. But then again, many experts have claimed that WWIII has already begun with those other conflicts I mentioned. Perhaps this is the spark that ignites WWIII or perhaps this is just another horrible battle but it has not officially started yet, though it certainly seems to be like it has. It is hard to tell with so much disinformation and misinformation floating around and not knowing who to trust?
One thing that WWI brought about was the dissolving of monarchies and the rise of republics/democracies (freemasonic). There was a dramatic shift that took place here, especially with what happened over 100 years ago to the Catholic Austria-Hungarian Empire. Today, Viktor Orbán seems to be the strongest morally of the European leaders with what he has tried to do with Hungary and resisting the global elites. Almost everyone else seems to be on board with their agenda.
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ReplyDeleteI have read many times that there are only a handful of countries whose banks are not directly controlled by the Rothschilds e.g. Cuba, North Korea, Iran, Russia, etc. These are the “rogue” nations that are always painted by the mass secular media in the West as “the bad guys.” But are they? Look at what Putin has done in the last couple years. He has intensified restricting abortion to increase fertility rates (which were decimated for years by the Soviets with the rampant abortions), as well as enacting laws against so-called “gay marriage.” What used to be “the good guy” United States vs. “the bad guy” Soviet Union has reversed with the US/Israel (Jewish-Freemasonic elites) painting the (sort of) Christian nation of Russia as the bad guy. Not long ago, this role reversal was completely unthinkable! I am not trying to portray Putin as the good guy here, nor saying the few countries left on Earth that are not Rothschild controlled are good nations. I still wouldn’t trust them because you can’t. Again, the amount of disinformation and misinformation that floats around on a daily basis is impossible to completely sift through. We do not have “good guys” vs. “bad guys” here anymore. There are so many shades and layers of gray that it makes it difficult to know who is to be trusted, if anyone? The global elites maneuver the chess pieces on the chessboard to suit their own evil agenda. It happened during WWI. It happened again during WWII. It continues to happen as we seem to be in WWIII. Only God knows where this all ends.
I wanted to ask you Introibo, where do you see all of this heading on a geopolitical level? There is one divine institution on Earth, Our Lord’s Catholic Church, which has had no visible ruler on the throne since 1958. As the world sinks more and more into chaos, where do you see this all going with all of these nations involved? Certainly, the United States, Israel, China, and Russia yield WAY more power than the others and the amount of oil that China buys from Iran is extremely alarming, not to mention the economic, political, and military unrest and unease that continues to increase across the world. Do you see this as us being in the start of WWIII? Do you see a “good side” and a “bad side” here or just massive shades of gray, as everyone has their own interests to protect and will commit any amount of genocide to protect themselves, no matter what?
I would very much like to hear your thoughts in detail on what we have seen transpire, especially in the last 1-2 weeks on a global scale and where you see us headed. It’s not going in a good direction, that is for sure!
I wish you and everyone a Happy Feast of St. Thomas Aquinas!
God bless you,
-TradWarrior
TradWarrior,
DeleteThere are no "good guys" here. All are corrupt to one degree or another. The days of King St. Louis IX are long gone, I'm afraid.
Personally, I don't think this is "it" in the sense of Armageddon has arrived. I think worse must transpire first, and the appearance of Antichrist. AI will play a role; I'm convinced of it. That's really all I've considered. I leave it all in God's Hands and do the best I can as a Traditionalist Catholic each day. What else can we do?
God Bless you, my friend,
---Introibo
Dear Introibo,
DeleteOr, closer to our time, the days of the martyred President of Ecuador, Gabriel García Moreno.
In Our Lady of Good Success (who prophesied him),
Leo
Leo,
DeleteI concur on Moreno.
God Bless,
---Introibo
Introibo,
ReplyDeleteTowards the end of your article, you quote parts of the original schema, as proposed by Cardinal Ottaviani and the other orthodox theologians at Vatican II. They state, “…however, the mystery of human redemption was not completed until the Holy Ghost Christ has promised came on the day of Pentecost…” I thought that the work of redemption was accomplished when Christ ascended into Heaven and showed His wounds to His Father, thereby completing the sacrifice. It didn’t end with His death obviously, nor His resurrection, for He told Mary Magdalene “Do not cling to me…” because He had yet to ascend to His Heavenly Father. Just as in Leviticus, the high priest had to offer the blood of the bull and the two goats for the Jewish atonement, whereby on the Day of Atonement, he offered the blood before the Mercy Seat of God of the bull and the one goat (the other goat was the scapegoat that ran through the wilderness). So likewise, Jesus offers His perfect sacrifice (and wounds) to God the Father for the atonement of man, thereby completing the Old Covenant. But did this not complete the atonement for man? Was it the descent of The Holy Ghost on Pentecost that completes the sacrifice? That seems to be what Cardinal Ottaviani and the other orthodox theologians were saying here. So the 3rd Person of the Blessed Trinity must come, which thereby completes Christ’s sacrifice. Is this correct?
God bless,
-TradWarrior
If I may...
DeleteThe Merits were accomplished/acquiredwith Christ's Sacrifice but not perhaps 'implemented' until Pentecost, as the Church was established only then. But it would be incorrect to say that the -sacrifice- was completed only then.
TradWarrior,
Deletecairsahr__stjoseph is correct. It's only with the "birthday of the One True Church" (Pentecost) that the work of redemption could be applied to the souls of humans by means of true doctrine, true moral teaching, perpetuating the Sacrifice of the Cross in an unbloody manner in the Mass, and the sacraments--thereby completed.
God Bless,
---Introibo
Does anyone know the answer to this...I hear many priests speaking in their sermons of stories that saints never told anyone, yet apparently the world knows now these untold stories? Here is an example today. Priest tells story re St Thomas Aquinas, which he told no one. If he told no one, why is it known now? They never say there was some revelation etc after the fact, which we would not have to believe anyway, right? I find it hard to trust or believe anyone in this Great Apostasy with unsubstantiated stories.
ReplyDeletehttps://youtu.be/A-DCyIq17Z0?si=rR9sSKi8k2MBLFtp
@anon5:56
DeleteI watched some parts of it, and he told the story of Aquinas being tempted against holy purity. I read this in several accounts of his life. If it was some other event, maybe "he told no one" means perhaps, he wrote it down and it was only read after his death. Some of these stories are mere pious legends, and need not be believed.
Giving the benefit of the doubt, I don't think Fr meant it was really told to no one or never communicated/recorded in any way.
God Bless,
---Introibo
Ok thanks. This was one example, there are other stories similar, not about saints, which led to same conclusion. One was about a man who was alone and ignored his dog barking. He then shot his dog only to be murdered himself after doing so, as the dog was trying to alert him to the unseen intruder. Maybe he was just making a point but it seems there is no way to verify a story such as this. Stories like this just chip away at trust.
DeleteGood comments TW! I see all world conflict as NWO marching forward at warp speed. All is horrendous. Let us cling to Him in these dire times...if He let's us. So many I know are dropping dead(likely from vaxx)...stopped counting at 500 and now it has increased to many per week. Dire scary days ahead!
ReplyDeleteThanks for the additional details regarding Pius XII's intentions regarding Mediatrix and Co-Redemptrix. Also note (h) above is a good point to emphasize: It already reinforces the Immaculate Conception and works together with it.
ReplyDeleteSo between Pius XII, the good bishops at the time, and the beliefs of many sede Catholics today (and perhaps many trads not yet sede), there seems to be a growing consensus in the real, actual Church (as a remnant) that these two dogmas be defined.
The question is, when ? And until then it is permissible to use these titles (though not yet defined) because of the various statements of past true Popes indicating their favour.
When all is said and done, will these be defined first or is there other things to be taken care of first ? Or would the ordering matter ?
cairsahr__stjoseph,
DeleteBoth titles can be used without fear of heresy. Both were used by the Holy Pontiffs and Mediatrix of All Grace was about to be defined even before Vatican II by Pope Pius XII.
When will they be defined? Only if/when we get a true pope again. I have no idea if or when that would happen.
Hypothetically, if a true pope were restored, in my opinion (that's all it is, a layman's opinion), I think Mary's titles would be proclaimed right after the basic functioning of the Church was restored--which would take some time.
God Bless,
---Introibo
https://www.youtube.com/live/sByImDBjqrE?si=Hm-42FYGlBMRTf11
ReplyDeleteAt 42 min mark Bp Sanborn quotes from a 1968 book and names 3 bishops who dissented (in relation to the Jews) re Nostra Aetate. Bp Kurtz wasn't on list but Abp Lefebvre was? Not sure if I characterized correctly but was somewhat surprised. Was this after Lefebvre signed off on V2 docs? Guessing it was. Or is this just more confusion from Sanborn?
According to this, Archbishop Lefebvre had a positive view of "Vatican 2" before setting up the SSPX:
Deletehttps://traditioninaction.org/Questions/Q-2/B999_M753_Lef.html
Will the real Marcel Lefebvre please stand up?
Leo
@anon2:35
DeleteUnfortunately, these days I wouldn't believe anything Bp. Sanborn has to say even if his tongue came notarized.
You can believe Bp. Kurz did all he could to stop the Modernist onslaught. He was PUBLICLY defending the Faith since 1966. The names Lefebvre, Thuc and Mendez were not heard until later.
God Bless,
---Introibo
Dear Introibo,
DeleteI couldn't agree with you more about Bishop Sanborn. Among other nonsense, he is appealing to the SSPX to adopt his Thesis.
Of the three bishops you lumped together, in 1966 Lefebvre was wishy-washy, zigzagging all over the place, Méndez was promoting a married diaconate and Thuc was a liberal. All very sad!
God bless you,
Leo
I have been seeing more and more re the same. Perhaps Bugnolo right about Sspx being cia operation...he is just wrong about much else.
ReplyDelete@anon5:15
DeleteCIA? More like theology that's DOA.
God Bless,
---Introibo
https://www.fromrome.info/2023/08/28/how-the-cia-controls-the-minds-of-nearly-everyone-in-the-catholic-church-right-now/
DeleteYes his blog filled with it. I think he onto something as sspx has been nothing but a trap for traditionalists and keeping those who have true faith in a false religion! Unfortunately he is a victim as well!