The Vatican II sect parish of St. Mary's in New Jersey advertises the following:
Tai Chi is an art,
and slow-moving meditative exercise from China to improve health and well-being,
and is based on the ‘Law of Nature’ which integrates body and mind.
The flowing by movements unlock powerful inner strength, the power for healing and wellness.
Barbara Schaflin is a Certified Instructor and member of the Tai Chi for Health Institute, specializing in Tai Chi for Arthritis for Fall Prevention; Tai Chi for Diabetes; Tai Chi for Memory; and Tai Chi for Rehabilitation.
Developed by Dr. Paul Lam, a world leader in the field of Tai Chi for Health improvement, his Tai Chi for Health programs are supported by organizations and government bodies around the world including the Arthritis Foundation, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC.gov), and the National Council on Aging (NCOA.org).
Over 500 medical studies show that Tai Chi improves many aspects of health, from calming the mind to reducing high blood pressure, improving balance to prevent falls, relieving arthritis pain, helping people with heart conditions and diabetes, and much more. More importantly, Tai Chi brings a general sense of well-being.
Would you like to learn a low impact exercise to improve your overall health and well-being? Why not give it a try! Participants can choose to stand or sit during class.
Classes are held at the PARISH OF SAINT MARY, One Phalanx Road, Colts Neck, N.J.
(See stmaryscoltsneck.org/tai-chi-for-health).
Tai Chi is occult. Yet some, like Paul Lam, are making it out to be "different" and acceptable to the Catholic religion in his "revised form." Many in the Vatican II sect are falling for it, and some parishes (like St. Mary) are leading unsuspecting souls into danger. This post will expose the dangers of Tai Chi--equally present in both its "pure" and "revised" forms.
(N.B., I take no credit for the information presented. All I did was compile sources, both online and in print, and put it into a terse, readable post to warn of the occult danger of Tai Chi---Introibo).
What is Tai Chi?
Tai Chi (pronounced “tie chee”) is a mind-body practice that originated in China as a martial art. Also known as “moving meditation,” a person doing Tai Chi moves his body slowly and gently, while breathing deeply and meditating. Practitioners believe Tai Chi helps the flow of an alleged vital energy or life force called “chi” (pronounced as "key" or "chee" and sometimes spelled "ki" or "qi") that supposedly regulates a person’s body, mind and spirit. Chi must be able to move freely for good health. Tai Chi also aims to harmonize "yin/yang," which are believed to be two opposite and complementary forces in the universe.
The motions of Tai Chi are designed to imitate motions found in nature, such as the movements of animals, thereby uniting human beings with the natural world.
The National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine (NCCAM) at the National Institutes for Health say that while accounts of the origin of Tai Chi differ, the most consistent explanation concerns a 12th century Taoist monk (the pagan religion Taoism--pronounced "Dow-ism") named Chang San-Feng (or Zan Sanfeng) who observed the movements of five animals – a tiger, dragon (!), leopard, snake and crane. He concluded that the snake and the crane, through their movements, were the most able to overcome strong, unyielding opponents. Chang developed an initial set of exercises that imitated the movements of these animals. This form of movement has been practiced in China for centuries and is still a daily routine for tens of thousands of people there, especially the elderly.
It was first introduced to the United States in the early 1970s and has since grown in popularity. Tai Chi proponents are trying to make it the new Yoga — an “exercise” that will draw many people because it seems exotic and healthy. Tai Chi sessions are usually group classes that last about an hour. Typically, an instructor guides the class through a series of 20 to 100 Tai Chi movements that together comprise a "form." A form can take up to 20 minutes to complete. Each form has a nature-based name that describes its overall action—such as "wave hands like clouds" or "grasp the bird's tail."
While performing these movements, students are asked to focus on the point just below their navels, believed to be the center from which chi flows. The teacher encourages the class to perform all movements in a slow, meditative manner and to focus on deep breathing. At the end of the class, there is usually a wind-down exercise, relaxation, and meditation
Practitioners recommend practicing Tai Chi for about 15 to 20 minutes twice daily at home, since it is claimed that regular practice is essential for mastering the forms and achieving lasting results.
People practice Tai Chi for a variety of reasons; to improve their physical condition and sense of balance, ease pain and stiffness (particularly from arthritis) and improve sleep. Like yoga, Tai Chi is pagan in origin and occult.
Tai Chi and the TAO
Tai Chi is based on belief in the Tao, which is the religion of Taoism, a religion that arose from early Chinese shamanism. In the ancient Chinese religion of Taoism, the impersonal Tao is the source of all that exists. However, the Tao supposedly cannot be described in words. In the famed Taoist text from the 3rd/4th centuries B.C., the Tao Te Ching, it states “the Tao that can be spoken of is not the Tao”. (Logic has no place in Eastern pagan religions. Saying anything about the Tao, even claiming it cannot be described, is, in fact, describing it).
The Tao is defined as literally ‘the path’ or ‘the way.’ It is a universal principle that underlies everything from the creation of galaxies to the interaction of human beings:
The Tao (or Dao) is hard to define but is sometimes understood as the way of the universe. Taoism teaches that all living creatures ought to live in a state of harmony with the universe, and the energy found in it. Ch’i, or qi, is the energy present in and guiding everything in the universe.
(See education.nationalgeographic.org/resource/taoism/).
Following the Tao involves the principle of Wu-Wei:
Wu Wei means living by or going along with the true nature of the world – or at least without obstructing the Tao – letting things take their natural course.
(See bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/taoism/beliefs/concepts.shtml).
According to Taoist teachings, the truth of the Tao can only be understood indirectly, through experiences, or through a process of enlightened living. Happiness is gained by living in the flow of the Tao, which is the flow of the universe. This belief has no personal God (though Taoism has non-eternal deities and divine beings, which may come from the blending of Taoist teachings with indigenous animistic religions).
Referring to the Tao, Taoist teacher Wen-Tzu states that:
The Way has no front or back, no left or right: all things are mysteriously the same, with no right and no wrong.
(See Further Teachings of Lao-Tzu, [1992], pg. 109).
There is no life and death because “Life and death are one, right and wrong are the same,” (from the Chuang Tzu as quoted in World Religions, Geoffrey Parrinder, pg. 333).
From this and other sources, we see that the Tao is impersonal, cannot be described, is a principle, is amoral, and is part of the created universe that guides and unites all. It is the heresy of pantheism condemned at the Vatican Council of 1870:
1. If anyone shall deny One true God, Creator and Lord of things visible and invisible; let him be anathema.
2. If anyone shall not be ashamed to affirm that, except matter, nothing exists; let him be anathema.
3. If anyone shall say that the substance and essence of God and of all things is one and the same; let him be anathema.
4. If anyone shall say that finite things, both corporeal and spiritual, or at least spiritual, have emanated from the Divine substance; or that the Divine essence, by the manifestation and evolution of itself, becomes all things; or, lastly, that God is a universal or indefinite being, which by determining itself constitutes the universality of things, distinct according to genera, species and individuals; let him be anathema.
Yin and Yang
In pagan Taoism, Yin is the female principle and Yang is male. Each is associated with nature as specified through Taoist teachings: Yin is darkness, watery, receptive, the moon; while Yang is light, dryness, active, the sun, and so forth. The Yin and Yang forces are the substance of creation and the matrix of every aspect of life, including a person’s physical organs and the unseen forces within the person.
In such a view, balance is the ideal:
Central to the historical context of chi in TCM is the idea of balance and harmony. Ancient Chinese physicians sought to understand the dynamics of yin and yang, the complementary forces that exist in all aspects of life. Chi was seen as the mediator between yin and yang, and balance in chi was essential for overall health.
(See polltopastern.com/post/the-world-of-chi#:~:text=Balance%20and%20Harmony&text=Ancient%20Chinese%20physicians%20sought%20to,was%20essential%20for%20overall%20health.).
To achieve balance is also seen in the popular Star Wars movie franchise from George Lucas, who was influenced by pagan Eastern religions, particularly Taoism and Buddhism. The Force in the movie is like chi, and the dark and light sides of the Force correspond in many ways to Yin and Yang.
Balance between yin and yang is continually sought through various techniques in order to bring about harmony between heaven and humanity, and humanity and earth. This is also true of Eastern pagan/occult "energy healing" like Reiki and Tai Chi.
The Dark Force of Tai Chi
The movements in Tai Chi are meant to manipulate both outer and inner chi in order to attain a harmony between self, nature, and the heavens, as well as to balance Yin-Yang. This information is easy to find on the Internet:
The practice of Tai Chi is the physical interpretation of the Tao philosophy — a teaching built upon the belief in unity of all things found in the universe.
In this opening session, you’ll learn the pivotal, spiraling, coiling force of Tai Chi as it first emerges in form. You’ll learn how this opening Tai Chi movement activates the Yin and Yang energies of the body and moves Qi throughout your being… and dive deep to discover the role of the mind in harmonizing the Yin and Yang polarities. (See theshiftnetwork.com/course/01HLiang02_23).
Taoism spawned a set of deeply occult practices (sorcery) that involve the manipulation of chi, and the line between what appears to be the uplifting side of Taoism and the darker side is very thin. On a page offering a video on “Taoism sorcery and its Cultural Practices,” the author writes:
The practice of Taoist magic will be presented through its two branches: outer alchemy (waidan) and inner alchemy (neidan). We’ll talk about the greater spiritual objectives of practicing Taoist magic and what thousands of years of experience and wisdom have to say about how to achieve those objectives.
Starter tips will be offered, such as beginning work with Jiu Tian Xuan Nu, the Lady of the Ninth Heaven, recitation of Kuan Yin’s Great Compassion Mantra, and other thoughts for branching out in a direction that’s going to make the most sense for you. (See benebellwen.com/2019/01/10/taoist-sorcery-and-its-cultural-practice).
Taoist sorcery has been around a long time and is based on the same pagan/occult beliefs and principles as Tai Chi. Tai Chi incorporates pagan/occult meditation, and is sometimes called "meditation in motion," because you must use "mindfulness" to become aware of your movements and "inner self."
Tai Chi, like yoga, uses Eastern meditation and is based in pantheism, the heretical idea that reality is identical with Divinity, and that all-things compose an all-encompassing, immanent "god." The goal of the Tai Chi/yoga practitioner is to unify himself/herself with the "Divine-self" or "God-Self." Through Tai Chi meditation, the person tries to lose contact with the conscious mind for an altered state of consciousness. This disassociation is meant to allow a person to become "one" with "the Divine." Even those who do not get to such altered states, have unwittingly opened themselves up to a decidedly pagan worldview and possible demon possession. The idea of being "divine" is the opposite of Christianity which tells us we are sinners in need of Redemption by the God-Man Jesus Christ.
When Tai Chi techniques are labeled as "relaxation techniques" or "ways to reduce stress and exercise for health," it is misleading. Traditionalist Catholic meditation is the conscious, focused, reflective, cognitive attention to God, such as when one meditates on the mysteries of the Most Holy Rosary. Tai Chi meditation results in an altered state of consciousness.
According to the Tai Chi Foundation:
Tai chi, a centuries-old Chinese martial art and mind-body exercise, with its slow, deliberate movements and emphasis on relaxation and balance, is often seen as a form of gentle exercise or method of stress relief. However, for some practitioners, it can also be a gateway to mystical experiences.
Mystical experiences are often described as moments of unity with something greater than oneself, a sense of oneness with the universe, or a connection to a divine or spiritual realm. These experiences can be profound and transformative, leaving lasting changes in one’s perspective on life and the world. So, how can tai chi help one approach mystical realms of consciousness? There are a number of factors that may help:
The Harmony of Body and Mind
In addition to being a martial art, tai chi can be thought of as a graceful practice that harmonizes movement and awareness. Practitioners often describe a sense of flowing meditation, where each movement seamlessly connects with the next. This synchronization of body and mind creates a conducive environment for transcendent experiences.
Mindfulness in Motion
The slow, deliberate movements of tai chi encourage practitioners to be fully present in the moment. This heightened state of awareness becomes a gateway to mystical experiences, allowing individuals to go beyond the ordinary and connect with deeper aspects of themselves.
Energetic Flow and Qi
Tai chi is rooted in the concept of Qi, the universal life force energy that flows through the body. By engaging in the gentle, rhythmic movements of tai chi, practitioners aim to cultivate and balance their Qi. This balanced flow of energy can help open pathways to a heightened sense of awareness and interconnectedness with the universe.
Stillness Within Movement
Despite the dynamic nature of tai chi, a unique stillness is embedded within each movement. This paradoxical combination of movement and stillness is a metaphor for life itself, encouraging practitioners to find tranquility amid the chaos—a key element in pursuing mystical experiences.
Connecting with Nature
Tai chi incorporates postures and movements inspired by nature, mimicking the ebb and flow of the elements. As practitioners move in harmony with these natural patterns, a deep sense of connection with nature emerges. This communion with nature becomes a conduit for mystical experiences as individuals tap into a larger, universal energy.
The Journey Inward
Beyond the physical postures, tai chi is a journey inward. Through consistent practice, individuals may find themselves peeling away the layers of the ego and becoming more aware of different dimensions of their consciousness. This introspective aspect of tai chi invites practitioners to explore the less ego-filled depths of their being and connect with the universal essence that transcends individual identity.
(See taichifoundation.org/unveiling-the-mystical-tai-chi-as-a-gateway-to-profound-experiences; Emphasis mine).
Therefore:
- Tai Chi is based on a pagan, pantheistic worldview that is heretical
- The movements of Tai Chi are incorporated with pagan/occult meditation intended to induce altered states of consciousness and promote false "mystical experiences"
- Tai Chi is an occult/pagan doorway to accepting a false, heretical worldview and opening up oneself to demonic forces--even to possession
- What is sold as "healing" and "health" is really occult practices
When it comes to spirituality, people also think of healing – they’re right. Part of spirituality is that it’s a healing tradition. Medicine and spirituality have been interconnected for a long time. There are other healing traditions that came from the Greek physicians, the shamans*, as well as the traditional Chinese medicine practitioners. These healing traditions do not serve to cure disease, but they serve as a means to actually release and enhance the spirit.
Shamanism is an ancient healing tradition and moreover, a way of life. It is a way to connect with nature and all of creation.
Let’s take a look at breathing because breathing is associated with spiritual growth. If we exhale and we put our mind and thought to consciously exhale deeply, that’s a release, you’re releasing your spirit. And when you release the spirit, it’s no longer bound. When we inhale consciously, you actually then begin to expand and enhance your spirit.
(See artoftaichi.com/blog/how-tai-chi-contributes-to-your-spiritual-growth; Emphasis mine).
Is The Tai Chi of Dr. Paul Lam Non-Occult and Safe for Traditionalist Catholics to Use?
In a word, NO.
According to Dr. Paul Lam of the Tai Chi Association of Australia, correct breathing techniques are an important part of Tai Chi meditation and should focus on the giving and taking of energy. The premise of this meditation technique is very easy: Lam recommends that when inhaling, you should think of taking life energy into your body. When you exhale, release that energy. This breathing technique can be applied to almost all tai chi meditations and movements, according to Lam.
(See gaiam.com/blogs/discover/4-tai-chi-meditation-techniques; Emphasis mine).
From Lam's own website:
Tai Chi is a mind-body exercise originating from ancient China, where it started as a famous martial art. These days, it’s practised around the world as an effective exercise for health.
It’s impossible to describe this complex art in one sentence. Tai Chi can be many things for different people, but regular practice will improve your wellbeing.
At the heart of it, Tai Chi is a moving meditation in the form of a series of gentle exercises that create harmony between the mind and body. The ultimate purpose is to cultivate our inner life energy (qi) to flow smoothly and powerfully through the body. This is a spiritual experience, as much as a physical one. (See taichiforhealthinstitute.org/what-is-tai-chi; Emphasis mine).
Health Benefits?
Yes, there are peer reviewed studies that show Tai Chi improves balance and lessens joint pain, yet there are exaggerated claims, such as the ability to lose large amounts of weight in a short time. There are two serious considerations: (1) the basis of Tai Chi is a "life energy force" that has never been scientifically proven. Many of the effects from Tai Chi can be replicated or even exceeded by brisk walking, stretching, and resistance training. Studies show that standard aerobic and strength workouts offer comparable improvements in fitness, blood pressure, and weight control.
(2) Your soul is more important than your body. "For what shall it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his soul?" (St. Mark 8:36). Why use a method of movement seeped in occult/pagan ideology and practice (thereby opening yourself up to demonic forces) when you can get benefits as good or better from regular forms of exercise?
Conclusion
There are clergy in the Vatican II sect that support and promote the practice of Tai Chi, an inherently pagan and occult practice. It cannot be divorced from its origin and is a real spiritual danger. Just as the sacrament of Extreme Unction with its primary effect of saving the soul has been replaced by the invalid "Anointing of the Sick" with a primary focus of bodily health, so too does the Vatican II sect elevate false and evil teachings and practices for the promise of health. Don't fall for it.
Yoga for middle aged bros.
ReplyDeleteTom
DeleteBasically, yes---and just as occult as yoga!
God Bless
---Introibo
No doubt people find these things fascinating because they are not anchored in the Faith. Why can't they just do exercises while meditating on the Mysteries of the Faith or saying any number of prayers or something which doesn't give themselves over to false doctrines and/or religions ?
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cairsahr_stjoseph
DeleteYes, I agree. Regular exercise done well and consistently has the same health benefits as Tai Chi. I like your idea of incorporating prayers and such during a regular exercise regimen.
God Bless
---Introibo
When an entity claiming to be the Catholic Church promotes false religions and occult practices, then that entity is not the Catholic Church, which cannot promote evil or teach error. Unfortunately, the followers of Novus Ordo are falling into this trap, convinced that they are part of the Catholic Church. May God deliver them from it, as He delivered me and so many others.
ReplyDeleteSimon
DeleteMay God and the Blessed Mother lead all members of the Vatican II sect into the One True Church as They did with you!!
God Bless
---Introibo
Have you Introibo or any folk knew or had friends who got misled by Richard Ibranyi and joined his cult in NM? We have heard from someone saying he demands complete and utter obedience. He uses mind control ideas and even told a devoted follower if he demanded this person to eat rotting meat or drink urine they have to do this. We are in shock.
Delete@anon11:06
DeleteI have no friends who got involved in his cult (Deo gratias), but it is easy to see that Ibranyi is a very mentally ill individual. It doesn't shock me that he would say such sick things to people. It's sad that anyone would get taken in by him.
God Bless,
---Introibo
As a Mandarin learner, I would like to point out that the "chi" in Tai Chi is the character 极 (traditional: 極), which is pronounced jí and means "too [much]" or "supreme", so the word 太极 (tàijí) would mean "supreme pole". But the "chi" which means "life force" is actually the character 气 (traditional: 氣), which is pronounced qì and usually means "air" or "gas". They are not the same character.
ReplyDeleteBy the way, "Tao" is the character 道 dào, meaning "way", 阴 (陰) yīn means "cloudy" and 阳 (陽) yáng "the Sun".
@anon1:23
DeleteThank you for the interesting language facts!
God Bless,
---Introibo
Over the years, I have known many people who have been involved in the martial arts. They can be an effective method of exercise, sports, and self-defense. They can also open up one to the occult. Introibo wrote on this topic a while back.
ReplyDeleteThis post is interesting in that it brings up several things that I have often wondered about.
Tai Chi is something that never fascinated me and I never really saw the point to this practice. I knew an individual years ago who was a Tai Chi instructor. He was a kind man and I think he meant very well. In saying this, one cannot minimalize the dangers of Tai Chi as a whole. This reminded me though of a situation that occurred years ago. I know an individual who was afflicted with a particular illness that was chronic and never went away after many, many years. The Tai Chi instructor was also very much into Eastern medicine. I have always taken a very well balanced approach to Eastern medicine and I believe that it has much to offer. Western medicine has made great advancements throughout the last several decades, which has been wonderful in many respects. I do feel that Eastern medicine has much to offer and can be extremely useful too. I would never choose only one to the complete detriment of the other. I say this as an individual that uses primarily Western medicine. I think that they can complement each other very well. I wouldn’t reject all Western medicine (though it definitely isn’t perfect) and likewise, I wouldn’t reject all Eastern medicine (which isn’t perfect either). Western medicine seems to have made greater leaps in terms of technological advances; whereas Eastern medicine seems more primitive in many areas.
Going back to my story, the individual I knew suffered with this ailment for years and every Western doctor that prescribed or recommended something to this individual to make the ailment go away never worked. This particular Tai Chi instructor told the individual that he could rid this person of the ailment. It was in the form of a drink (with herbs, spices, etc.) and not only did it cure this individual of the ailment, but the ailment never returned and this person went on to lead an even better life from a physical standpoint.
Another story I just recently came across a few weeks ago. There was a Chinese man who practiced Qi Gong (I am not advocating that this works or not). There was a man who had a serious type of cancer that most likely was going to take his life. The Chinese man changed his diet and gave him treatment three times per week. After three months, the Chinese man told this individual that the cancer was gone. The man went to his physician and the physician took a biopsy, which revealed that the cancer was indeed gone. The Western doctor was still extremely skeptical and ran more biopsies over the next year. All of the results came back negative – there was no cancer left. There were other people under this Chinese man who said that they too were cured of whatever ailments were afflicting them.
These two individuals are just some of MANY that I have heard and read about. This can be perplexing. We know that if anything contradicts a matter of theology against the Traditional Catholic Faith, then what is going against the Faith is obviously wrong. Matters of Eastern medicine that do not contradict matters against the Faith not only can work, but often times do work, as there have been numerous testimonies of people cured of so many different ailments. To lump them all together and say that these cures came from demons seems like a bit of a stretch. In between matters of theology and medicine (Western and Eastern) would be philosophy. Introibo has rightly pointed out that many things in the East do contain philosophies that are attached to them. Some of these Eastern medicine practices are not attached to Eastern philosophies, but some are, and it can be murky trying to decipher the difference.
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ReplyDeleteThere are a few other examples that came to mind. For many years, police and criminologists have employed the use of astrologers and psychics. There are some psychics who definitely could get their “supernatural gifts” from the demons, but then there are some who could just be “gifted individuals.” Many times, the psychics are the only people the police departments have to go on, and sometimes, their so called “gifts” prove to be extremely accurate and advantageous to the police, as they help them to solve mysteries that went unsolved for a long time. But what about astrologers? Astrology is condemned by the Catholic Church, yet according to many sources, many popes relied on astrologers when they were trying to ascertain something. Popes Julius II, Sixtus IV, Leo X, and Urban VIII are popes who get mentioned in many resources, as popes who were on record consulting astrologers. Why would this be the case if astrology was strictly condemned? In relationships (whether among friends or lovers), certain astrological signs seem to be drawn together far more closely and others are repelled and do not mix well at all. Many times, they seem to be quite accurate. Why is this? St. Thomas Aquinas in his “Summa Theologica” mentions very clearly that the heavenly bodies can directly and of themselves act on human bodies. Aquinas mentions that these forces cannot conform the will, but he believed that they act on human bodies. He talks about this issue over a few different articles in “Prima Pars, Question 115.” He also notes in “Article 6”, the following: “…the action of heavenly bodies produces certain inclinations in corporeal nature, the will nevertheless does not of necessity follow these inclinations. Therefore there is nothing to prevent the effect of heavenly bodies being hindered by the action of the will, not only in man himself, but also in other things to which human action extends.” From a few articles that he addresses in “Question 115,” he seems convinced that celestial bodies do have a great influence over the human body, though our wills still have the ultimate choice to choose to go this way or that way when it comes to a particular choice.
This reminded me of one final story. Years ago, police and criminologists employed the help of an astrologer to see if this woman could correctly point out the charts of various serial killers. There were 19 charts that they presented her with. To make it very difficult on her, they gave her the most basic information and almost no real information to work with at all. Among the 19 charts, there were 4 charts that were the charts of serial killers. She correctly zeroed in and selected those 4 charts out of the 19 that were presented to her. The odds of doing this is 1 out of 3,876 or 0.0258%. This was quite remarkable. A criminal psychologist worked in conjunction with her. She was neither pro nor against astrology, yet she concluded that this woman was “right on the money.” Again I ask, was this attributed to the demons, or could planetary and star alignments, like Aquinas seemed to argue, be legitimate? Furthermore, what about the case of the aforementioned popes who seemed to consult astrologers? Why would they do this? After all, isn’t this a condemned practice, or does the Catholic Church condemn astrology to a certain extent, all the while leaving open the question of whether celestial bodies can influence our behavior, as Aquinas seemed to think so?
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ReplyDeleteIntroibo – I would like to get your take on all of this – the Tai Chi example, the Qi Gong man, Western vs. Eastern medicine as a whole, the use of astrologers and psychics that police and criminologists have employed many, many times, and most importantly the position of St. Thomas Aquinas and other theologians on the celestial bodies affecting human behavior (even if not contradicting or impairing the human will), as well as the claim from many sources that certain popes consulted astrologers. We could also add the Magi - Melchior, Caspar (Gaspar), and Balthazar in trying to ascertain the position of the star over Bethlehem when Christ was born. An astrological event was right at the heart of The Incarnation. This cannot be ignored. This is also reminiscent of what took place in 2017 with the celestial alignment of The Woman (Virgo), The Feet (Moon), The Crown (12 Stars), and The Child (Jupiter). This was a rare alignment that seemed to match much in the Apocalypse (Book of Revelation). This celestial event was talked about in Catholic publications all around the world, including the Vatican Observatory. Again, we realize that the Novus Ordo establishment is not the church, but nevertheless, this event was talked about around the globe when it happened among Sedevacantists, R & R’s, and Novus Ordites alike. I would love to hear you expound on all of this Introibo as these topics are fascinating and naturally we look for answers. As Aristotle said, “All men by nature desire to know.”
Thanks,
-TradWarrior
By way of intro – I have a doctorate in a heath related field, and have been a sedevacantist believer for 40 years, even though in the first 25-30 of those years my thinking was evolving to a complete belief.
DeleteIn reading about the miracle at Fatima and the secular world trying to prove that the events did not come from God, I remember a small reference defending the reality of the visions and miracle, to the nature of a possible physical “presence” of St. Mary. How can a spirit (angel, Saint, or God Himself) appear in a physical human form?
Basically the statements were that there is a possibility that there are physical realities, or physics (science), that humans do not yet understand. God doesn’t suspend science, but works “mysteriously” in a manner that humans have not yet (and probably never will) been able to figure out. This attempt to explain did not negate God’s ability to suspend any of nature’s laws.
This same reasoning can apply to many of our current scientific health-related knowledge today. Germ theory, viruses, the circulatory system, x-rays, MRIs, washing hands before surgery, etc. etc. were not underdstood, discovered, or believed years ago. Yes, there can be many scientific realties yet to be discovered that may answer Trad Warrior’s questions.
Nasal passages can release nitric oxide when deep breathing through the nose is practiced. Nitric oxide relaxes cardiac epithelium (heart blood vessels) resulting in better blood flow and potentially decreasing blood pressure. This effect can lead to a calmness or improved relaxed state. It is not a mystical, spiritual joining a person with the universe and sought with tai chi or yoga.
Peace comes from belief, trust, hope, love and faith in the One True God through His One True Church. Prayer, the Rosary, the Mass can all be called “meditation”, but meditation without directing one’s thoughts to God will never answer the soul’s longing for peace.
The following quotes are not meant as a correction, admonition, or attempt to preach to anyone – they are readings that have helped me stay humble.
“My Imitation of Christ” Thomas à Kempis – Book One, Chapter 3.
“I am wearied with often reading and hearing many things; in Thee is all that I will or desire.”
“The humble knowledge of thyself is a surer way to God than the deepest search after science.”
“Learning is not to be blamed, nor the mere knowledge of anything which is good in itself and ordained by God; but a good conscience and a virtuous life are always to be preferred before it.”
“But because many make it more their study to know than to live well, therefore are they often deceived, and bring forth none, or very little fruit.”
Doc
TradWarrior had the proper perspective regarding these Eastern things, I think. Perhaps it can be utilized in a way analogous to St. Thomas Aquinas' rehabilitation of Aristotle.
DeleteThanks for the reminder of the celestial event of 2017 {the alignment of alignment of The Woman (Virgo), The Feet (Moon), The Crown (12 Stars), and The Child (Jupiter)}. The descriptions assigned to these astrological signs, such as Virgo, are so that such an alignment would mean nothing if known by any other names. Therefore God knew this alignment would come about 100 years after Fatima, and allowed the names to be assigned as they are.
As for the meaning of this event, I would not say it signifies any particular event, but is a reminder that we are still in the midst of unfolding Fatima prophecy linked to the Apocalypse, and that further unfolding was then imminent.
Doc,
DeleteThank you very much for your insights. I appreciate them. There is much that remains a mystery.
God bless you,
-TradWarrior
cairsahr_stjoseph,
DeleteThank you for commenting. Yes, I was going to reference that 2017 was the 100 year anniversary of the Fatima apparitions. Thank you for mentioning that.
I try to take a well balanced approach to many of these things and to not go to extremes. I am just trying to dig deeper to see why certain things are the way they are.
I think that Eastern medicine can definitely be a complement to Western medicine. As Introibo has pointed out several times, there are often times Eastern philosophies that are attached to Eastern medicine and when this is the case, it becomes very problematic. But in some cases, it could just be Eastern medicine that in many cases just simply works to treat or cure someone of an illness. Western medicine has excelled in so many areas, but not in everything. I think West and East could learn a lot from each other in many respects.
Regarding my other points about the popes who sought the counsel of astrologers (and there were a few other popes whose names I found besides the ones I mentioned), the psychics and astrologer examples I mentioned with the serial killer, the celestial alignment in 2017, St. Thomas Aquinas on the influence of heavenly bodies on man, and everything else I mentioned – a lot of this is intriguing and still very puzzling.
Introibo has done a great job in so many articles pointing out the occult and he has mentioned several times how the Catholic Church has condemned astrology. This is biblical too as it goes back to Deuteronomy. But everything that I mentioned is still puzzling on many levels. Are we going to assume that every psychic that police departments employ get their “special abilities” from the demons? Are we going to assume that every astrologer that has helped criminologists is getting their “special abilities” from the demons? That could be the case, but perhaps it is not. We cannot minimize that the occult is everywhere around us today and the demons attack us in so many different ways. This is why I wrote my article on that very topic last week. But much of this could have other explanations. What they are, I have no idea? Why would popes consult astrologers when the Catholic Church condemns the practice of astrology? What are we to make of Aquinas (and other theologians) who mention how celestial bodies can influence human behavior (even though our will is still ours to make the final decision)? Is it overly harsh to automatically reject every form of Eastern medicine? Certainly, many Eastern medicinal practices could be tied to an Eastern pagan belief philosophy and in these cases we have to be VERY leery of this! Introibo has always sounded the alarm on this.
CONTINUED…
DeleteThis leads to more questions. Some would correctly point out that Aquinas was not infallible and made some errors. He often gets attacked over the Immaculate Conception, yet this man is THE Theologian of the Catholic Church. If we could summarize all of his teachings in not only his “Summa Theologica” but all of his other works, he probably was correct on 98-99% of everything he said and wrote, with very little errors in his thinking. I suppose the same could be said for Liguori on everything that he wrote. Doctors of the church have to have their writings examined very carefully to make sure that there is no error or heresies contained within them, and saints are not infallible. Doctors of the church have disagreed on things where the Magisterium has not made a pronouncement or did not make a pronouncement until much later in time. They held to different opinions on things and are not infallible, yet their teachings carry tremendous weight. Others like Augustine and Bellarmine are theological giants in their own right too.
There are so many puzzling things that do not add up and when we need a Magisterium more than ever, we do not have one and haven’t had one in decades with a pope to guide us in these matters. The Catholic Church’s governance goes beyond theology and philosophy. It touches upon economics, law, medicine, science, education, and so many other facets of life. As I mentioned several months ago in a comment, in some areas we are even more handicapped now. Science and technology would be one area where this rings true. The Catholic Church has been without a visible leader and ruler since the 1950’s and yet since that time, science, medicine, and technology have exploded in making tremendous leaps and strides. We have no answer to many ethical questions in these arenas. I will not reiterate the examples I listed a few months ago, but they were numerous. When we have one individual Sede bishop opposing another Sede bishop or one Sede priest going against another Sede priest on a given topic that is not “cut and dry,” it truly shows how alone we are and how in many areas of life, all we have to rely upon is ourselves, especially on topics where the Magisterium was silent before, and now is continuously silent without a pope. It’s like we are stranded out in the middle of the ocean and we only have ourselves to rely on to sink or swim with no raft or life jacket to help us.
I am indebted to Introibo for providing so many answers to so many questions. In these trying times, there are very few resources and people that we can turn to for answers to questions that we have. My list of questions seems to just increase more and more all the time on so many different topics and I guess this is just part of this chastisement that we all are in – the uncertainty that looms large with so many matters in life in what has become a godless world.
Hopefully and eventually, Our Lord and Our Lady give us a pope to “right the ship” so to speak. I do not see this happening anytime soon. All we can do is pray and persevere as best we can.
God bless,
-TradWarrior
TradWarrior
DeleteThe anon at 6:29 gave an excellent answer to which I will add.
1. Eastern medicine can have good aspects that are not occult. (e.g., the use of certain roots, etc). It is the alleged "energy healing" that must be avoided.
Now, can something evil effectuate something beneficial? Answer: In the short term yes, in the long term, no. If someone is using the occult, it can produce good results--and why wouldn't Satan and his demons want someone to believe it is good and keep using it?
Someone can also be honestly affable and well-intentioned yet be deceived. There are also NON-occult practices of the East which can be beneficial and I'm certainly open to them.
2. There was a very blurred like between ASTRONOMY and ASTROLOGY. Renaissance popes were caught up in a mainstream practice among elites. There is proof of the heavens affecting Earth (e.g., the moon makes the tides). However, the Church always CONDEMNED "judicial astrology"---casting charts to predict human destinies.
The 1913 Catholic Encyclopedia openly admits that Popes Sixtus IV, Julius II, Leo X, and Paul III were "votaries of astrology." These popes sometimes used or patronized astrological techniques in an age when the boundaries between astronomy, natural philosophy, medicine, and occult practices were fluid.
Of note, Pope Urban VIII (1623-1644) was personally interested in astrology and was alleged to have consulted astrology charts. Yet, in 1631, he issued the Apostolic Constitution Inscutabilis Iudiciorum Dei which strengthened penalties against judicial astrology. The Holy Ghost at work protecting the Church from evil and error!
Had a pope participated knowingly in the occult, he would be guilty of mortal sin; and there have been very evil popes. The Holy Ghost doesn't make popes impeccable.
Except for the sin of heresy, the pope retains his office. No pope, even the ones mentioned here ever TAUGHT astrology to be good or practiced--it was ever condemned.
Hope this helped!
God Bless,
---Introibo
TradWarrior
DeleteAs to police using astrologers/psychics, I know of no such professionally employed psychics (so called). There are studies that show the opposite about astrologers! Please see my post:
https://introiboadaltaredei2.blogspot.com/2022/02/one-peter-five-and-catholic-astrology.html
God Bless,
---Introibo
Introibo,
DeleteThank you very much for both of your answers. I appreciate them and I will check out that link. I remember reading that article that you cited before but I will revisit that material. I appreciate you!
Regarding one of the topics that I brought up in my last post. We know that popes have the ability to teach infallibly under certain conditions and the papacy is safeguarded by The Holy Ghost with the charisms of infallibility and indefectibility. This does not extend to individual theologians. Now when we look at the greatest minds the church produced e.g. Aquinas and Liguori, their teachings would have to be carefully examined before they were declared doctors of the church. Would all of their teachings have to be free not only from heresy but from ALL errors? If so, how do we reconcile Aquinas with the Immaculate Conception? I think I know the answer to this, but I still want to ask. This matter wasn’t defined yet by the Magisterium so although he was wrong and in error, it didn’t hinder him from becoming a doctor of the church. Would this be correct? I am actually referencing your recent “Hyperpapalism” article where you cite theologian Scheeben where he mentions a dogma may pass through three stages, 1) implicit belief, 2) controversy, and 3) explicit definition. This was in regards to the objection that Aquinas, Bonaventure, Albert the Great, and Bernard were all in error on the Immaculate Conception. So these men obviously could be in error about something not yet defined, yet still be declared doctors of the church and all of their teachings declared “safe” and “free from error” because certain matters were not yet declared dogmatically by the church? Is this correct?
What about other errors? For example, didn’t St. Jerome believe that every baptized person would eventually go to Heaven and not stay in Hell forever? St. Gregory of Nyssa believed Hell was not forever and even the devil would eventually be saved. This is apokatastasis, which Origen also erroneously held to, although Origen had other theological problems.
When the Magisterium decides something, it is final. Your example of Pope Urban VIII and his writing “Inscutabilis Iudiciorum Dei” was a great example. But what if the Magisterium doesn’t settle something? If it comes down to St. Jerome vs. St. Augustine or Suarez vs. Bellarmine, etc., are approved theologians free to side with either side? It would appear so. Can you cite some examples where there are theological matters that the church has never decided and to this day, it remains an open question if Side A or Side B is correct? Even among the doctors of the church, some hold more weight than others. The 4 Latin Doctors Ambrose, Augustine, Jerome, and Gregory and the 4 Eastern Doctors John Chrysostom, Basil the Great, Gregory of Nazianzus, and Athanasius would hold greater theological weight. Can you cite any theological topics where there was disagreement between some of these men where the Magisterium never settled the question definitively? Can you cite some examples where there was disagreement but a future pope did decide a matter definitively? The Immaculate Conception is an obvious one, but there seems like there would be several other examples.
Where would saints and doctors and early church fathers fall in the hierarchy with approved theologians and authors? Is there overlap with these groupings? How much power did the Holy Office have pre-Vatican II? If a topic was up for debate, for example, in the 1950’s between two very strong opposing sides of theologians, wouldn’t Cardinal Ottaviani the Secretary of the Holy Office have the final verdict, other than Pope Pius XII, who was the prefect of the Holy Office (as all popes were prefects of the Holy Office)?
Thank you again for any answers that you can provide.
God bless,
-TradWarrior
TradWarrior
DeleteThanks for the reply. Speaking of THE theologian of the Church, St. Thomas Aquinas, that even he made a few errors shows, like you said, that he is not infallible either. This makes me wish to speculate somewhat on the nature of papal infallibility and its relationship to the Church. We notice that theologians like St. Thomas are allowed to speculate on things, using Tradition, Scripture, and defined dogma as a guide; but we also notice that we are not given all the answers, complete, on everything as though from a Catholic Doctrine Encyclopaedia on all things. No, the Holy Father intervenes on matters of doctrine when there is division and possible heresy. But that the Immaculate Conception was not yet defined at the time, to not affirm it or even to deny it was not then a heretical act. I suppose the question of when life begins brought this doctrine to the fore (due to the advancements of science in the 19th century - not evolution, but micro-biology). And connected to this question is when Original Sin is contracted by the conception. So then it became necessary to establish that Our Lady was sinless *from conception*. At least, I believe it came about partly in that way.
I might further speculate that not all answers are immediately given because then the devil would have time to spin a counter or some strategem designed to induce people to contradict them. In this way especially I believe it was necessary for the Apocalypse to remain shrouded. God bless.
+JMJ+
TradWarrior
Delete1. You ask, "So these men obviously could be in error about something not yet defined, yet still be declared doctors of the church and all of their teachings declared “safe” and “free from error” because certain matters were not yet declared dogmatically by the church? Is this correct?"
Reply: You are correct. When teaching from their works, seminary professors must tell their students that the Doctor in question was wrong yet not heretical at that time in a matter open to theological debate. The incorrect sections are kept to show the reasoning behind the opinion and why it was wrong.
2. You ask, "For example, didn’t St. Jerome believe that every baptized person would eventually go to Heaven and not stay in Hell forever?"
Reply: St. Jerome taught Catholics would eventually go to Heaven, not everyone. He retracted anything he ever wrote on that point, having been influenced by Origen.
You ask, "St. Gregory of Nyssa believed Hell was not forever and even the devil would eventually be saved. "
Reply: Yes. It was still open to theological debate when he died in 395AD. The eternity of Hell was formally defined in 553 AD.
You write, "But what if the Magisterium doesn’t settle something? If it comes down to St. Jerome vs. St. Augustine or Suarez vs. Bellarmine, etc., are approved theologians free to side with either side? It would appear so."
Reply: Yes, it is so.
You write: " Can you cite some examples where there are theological matters that the church has never decided and to this day, it remains an open question if Side A or Side B is correct?"
Reply: One comes to mind: Whether or not the Blessed Virgin Mary died prior to her Assumption has never been decided.
You ask about Church Fathers disagreement that has never been settled. One is the relationship between divine grace, predestination, and human free will.
You ask examples where there was disagreement but a future pope did decide a matter definitively. The exact matter and form for Holy Orders was decided by Pope Pius XII in 1947.
You ask Where would saints and doctors and early church fathers fall in the hierarchy with approved theologians and authors?
Reply: The order is
1. Church Fathers
2. Doctors of the Church (esp. Aquinas in Dogmatic Theology and Liguori in Moral Theology)
3. Authors
4. Approved theologians/canonists who are not authors
You ask How much power did the Holy Office have pre-Vatican II?
Reply: It was the most powerful Roman Congregation. Ottaviani's power was in his influence, not in himself. Nothing the Holy Office decrees has binding force unless personally approved by the pope.
God Bless
---Introibo
Introibo,
DeleteThank you very much for all of the responses. They are extremely helpful!
God bless you,
-TradWarrior
Nothing would surprise me about Richard Ibranyi. He has rewritten his version of the Holy Scriptures among other things. Just looking at him one can tell he has severe mental issues. I am convinced he is under the control of the evil one. Keep well away and don't listen to his garbage.
ReplyDelete@anon3:31
DeleteI agree 100%
God Bless
---Introibo
Hello Introibo
ReplyDeleteThis is off the subject but have you heard the Monfort Spiritual Center in Bay Shore, NY has been sold to the American Muslim Association for 5.2 million?
God bless
@anon8:54
DeleteNo, I have not heard of this, but it does not surprise me. Moslems have been growing in NY at an incredible pace. We have a Mohammedan/Socialist Mayor in NYC. The Vatican II sect declared in "Nostra Aetate" that they "esteem" the Mohammedans. When an organization is that decadent, so as to describe the false religion of a demonic "prophet" to be worthy of esteem, they will have no problem with handing their property over to them. It will also help pay for the legal costs of the sodomites they let in and condone.
God Bless
---Introibo
"The flowing by movements unlock powerful inner strength, the power for healing and wellness." Unlock, inner strength, power, healing, wellness" -- all dangerous buzz words, a dead giveaway that this is wrong. But when the "Church" gives its people junk, they look elsewhere. And "slow body movements"? I am 76 and haven't done anything slowly yet, and I ain't gonna start now.
ReplyDelete@anon7:09
DeleteLol! Yes, I agree--don't slow down now for Tai Chi!
God Bless
---Introibo
Introibo,
ReplyDeleteCould you please give a refutation of the following, quoting approved theologians:
"Vatican I’s Pastor Aeternus holds infallibly that the Roman Catholic Church must have “perpetual successors in the Primacy” to St. Peter as Supreme Pontiff. And yet, 58-sedes say we have not had a valid Pope since 1958. Thus, they apparently reject Vatican I. Of course, they all have numerous legalistic-loopholes to work around this accusation. But all sede arguments practically fail at explaining a whopping 70 years of an ostensible-absence of the promise of Christ Himself to St. Peter in Mt 16 on the papacy being the unshakable rock of the Church. (I once had a sede priest tell me if we had no Pope for 300 years, it would still not challenge his position!)"
The full article is to be found here:
www.padreperegrino.org/2026
Thank you in advance.
@anon1:18
DeleteI've seen this argument many times. Sheer ignorance. The Fathers of the Vatican Council of 1870 never defined that "perpetual successors" means there must be a living pope to fill the papacy every moment in time. The theologians immediately after the Council new this; indeed, that very argument was used by Protestants AGAINST the papacy because an interregnum means there is no line of perpetual successors in the papacy.
According to theologian Dorsch: "The Church therefore is a society that is essentially monarchical. But this does not prevent the Church, for a short time after the death of a pope, OR EVEN FOR MANY YEARS, from remaining deprived of her head. [vel etiam per plures annos capite suo destituta manet]. Her monarchical form also remains intact in this state.…
Thus the Church is then indeed a headless body.… Her monarchical form of government remains, though then in a different way — that is, it remains incomplete and to be completed. The ordering of the whole to submission to her Primate is present, even though actual submission is not…For this reason, the See of Rome is rightly said to remain after the person sitting in it has died — for the See of Rome consists essentially in the rights of the Primate. These rights are an essential and necessary element of the Church. With them, moreover, the Primacy then continues, at least morally. The perennial physical presence of the person of the head, however, [perennitas autem physica personis principis] is not so strictly necessary." (de Ecclesia 2:196–7; Emphasis mine).
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It has been established at the Vatican Council of 1870 that the papacy must last until the end but not that there must always be a living pontiff on the Throne of St. Peter. Furthermore, having a long interregnum is not inconsistent with having perpetual successors. There is a possibility of an end of the papal interregnum before the end of the world. According to theologian O'Reilly, one of the most orthodox and erudite theologians of the 19th century, in his 1882 book (written a scant twelve years after the Vatican Council), entitled The Relations of the Church to Society — Theological Essays, he brings home this important point. On page 287, he writes in reference to the Great Western Schism:
Delete"There had been anti-popes before from time to time, but never for such a continuance... nor ever with such a following...
The great schism of the West suggests to me a reflection which I take the liberty of expressing here. If this schism had not occurred, the hypothesis of such a thing happening would appear to many chimerical. They would say it could not be; God would not permit the Church to come into so unhappy a situation. Heresies might spring up and spread and last painfully long, through the fault and to the perdition of their authors and abettors, to the great distress too of the faithful, increased by actual persecution in many places where the heretics were dominant. But that the true Church should remain between thirty and forty years without a thoroughly ascertained Head, and representative of Christ on earth, this would not be.
Yet it has been; and we have no guarantee that it will not be again, though we may fervently hope otherwise. What I would infer is, that we must not be too ready to pronounce on what God may permit. We know with absolute certainty that He will fulfill His promises; not allow anything to occur at variance with them; that He will sustain His Church and enable her to triumph over all enemies and difficulties; that He will give to each of the faithful those graces which are needed for each one’s service of Him and attainment of salvation, as He did during the great schism we have been considering, and in all the sufferings and trials which the Church has passed through from the beginning.
We may also trust He will do a great deal more than what He has bound Himself to by His promises. We may look forward with a cheering probability to exemption for the future from some of the troubles and misfortunes that have befallen in the past. But we, or our successors in future generations of Christians, shall perhaps see stranger evils than have yet been experienced, even before the immediate approach of that great winding up of all things on earth that will precede the day of judgment. I am not setting up for a prophet, nor pretending to see unhappy wonders, of which I have no knowledge whatever. All I mean to convey is that contingencies regarding the Church, not excluded by the Divine promises, cannot be regarded as practically impossible, just because they would be terrible and distressing in a very high degree."
So an interregnum of a long duration does nothing to affect the monarchial constitution of the One True Church, nor does it contradict the Vatican Council of 1870.
Hope this helped!
God Bless,
---Introibo
Thank you so very much Introibo!
DeleteIntroibo
DeleteDo you have the six volume set of Dogmatic Theology by Pohle? Do you recommend it .
@anon6:07
DeleteThe original is a 12-volume set, and I have an original printing. I highly recommend it. Anyone who reads through those volumes with care will walk away with a solid foundation in the Catholic Faith. Pohle was a top-notch theologian---an author as they are called.
God Bless,
---Introibo
Okay thanks Introibo. I have ordered a set in excellent condition from a second hand bookshop. They should arrive within a week. What other advanced works do you recommend.
DeleteGod bless and thank you for your quick reply
Introibo
DeleteOn the matters of books, have you read any about how Islam is trying to take over the West and their sharia law. Are you aware here in the United Kingdom there are over 1000 mosques. Is it correct Islam is growing in your country and Canada.
God bless,Paul
@anon5:17
DeleteRecommended in Dogmatic Theology:
Theologian Gerard Van Noort---3 Volume set
Theologian Matthias Scheeben ---2 volumes (English)
Theologian Ludwig Ott---"Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma"--One Volume
Recommended in Moral Theology:
Theologian Heribert Jone--One Volume
Theologian Dominic Prummer---One Volume
Theologians McHugh and Callan---Two Volumes
That's a great reading list!!
God Bless
---Introibo
Paul
DeleteNot books per se, but it is evident from many sources. We are Victims of Vatican II as the Mohammedan hoards conquer.
God Bless
---Introibo
Introibo:
ReplyDeleteHave you had a chance to visit the CMRI affiliated chapel in NYC? If so, what do you think of it?
@anon10:50
DeleteI have not yet done so!
God Bless
---Introibo
Saint John Bosco on Islam and it’s Jewish creators:
ReplyDeleteIt comes from a book where a youngster asks questions about the religion and the reply is given by the youngster’s father or another authority figure if I remember correctly. It’s attributed to the writings of Saint John Bosco, source below.
S. What exactly does the Mohammedan religion consist of?
F. Mohamed’s religion consists of a monstrous mixture of Judaism, Paganism and Christianity. The book of Mohamed’s laws is called the Qur’an i.e. the book par excellence. This religion is also called Turkish (Ottoman) since it is widely diffused in Turkey; Muslim [Musulmana] derives from Mosul, the name that the Mohammedans give to their prayer director; Islamism, from the name of some of its reformers; at any rate, it is still the same religion Mohamed established.
S. Why did Mohamed put together this mixture of various religions?
F. Since the peoples of Arabia were in part Jews, Christians and Pagans, he consequently selected a part of the religion they professed in order to induce them to follow him, choosing in particular, those points that would favor sensual pleasures the most.
S. Mohamed must have been an erudite man?
F. Absolutely not, he couldn’t even write; and in composing his Qur’an he was assisted by a Jew and an apostate monk. When discussing things contained in Holy Scripture he confused the facts; for example, he attributes to Mary, Moses’ sister, many facts that regard Mary, the Mother of Jesus Christ, in addition to many, many other frightful errors.
Taken from: On Islam from “IL CATTOLICO, ISTRUITO NELLA SUA RELIGIONE, TRATTENIMENTI ( Torino 1853). [The Catholic educated in his religion. Conversations with the Father of a Family and his beloved sons, in relation to the needs of the present day. Summarized by Giovanni Bosco, priest. (Turin, 1853)].
Canada and The West are controlled by perfidious Jews. The Zionists and The Internationalists, two sides of the same subversive Jewish coin. Almost all revolutionary movements in The West, if not all, have all been instigated, funded, and supported by these groups. Zionists and Internationalist leftist Jews have supported flooding the West with Muslims and other hostile groups into The West for decades as a way to destroy these white societies. It’s revenge for 70 AD, and they see European Christian Civilization and any thing resembling western culture as threats to their hegemony.
Those of us who are racially conscious and are ofEuropean descent are well aware of what is going on throughout Europe and in America with immigration and who is behind these wicked trends. We know the purpose. It’s to destabilize these societies, to implement white erasure and bring in primitive migrants that can be unleashed on western societies. They also have run campaigns to make societies morally depraved and individualized and materialistic. The West has abandoned The Catholic Church and that’s the only way to fight back against these evils. The men are weak and the women are deranged feminists, and so this is what you get. Chaos and disorder and Rotherham rape gangs, and legalized suicide, Pride Parades, Wars for Israel, divorce, marauding gangs of looters and the same “teens”, all aspiring astrophysicists and heart surgeons by the way, playing the knockout game, celebrating Juneteenth with mayhem and murder, committing home invasions, and targeting the most innocent among us while being called “just kids being kids” and getting 50 arrests and not being put behind bars for life. This is the world we will live in where many reject The Truth and reason.
This is happening because of the loss of Faith:
Delete"5:13. You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt lose its savour, wherewith shall it be salted? It is good for nothing anymore but to be cast out, and to be trodden on by men" (Matt. 5:13).
On the other hand, to be fair, the salt lost its flavour because of the utter Machiavellian deceptive tactics and lies and depredations of the "mystery of iniquity" and its "operation of error". I have faith that this is balanced out in Heaven's judgements and Their mercies, and that St. Joseph has a lot to say about this, being called "the just".
Anon 11:34 AM
DeleteWhat great info from Saint john Bosco about Islam. Everything you stated falls right into place what is happening now.
Have you noted the so-called "King" of England Charles is pushing Islam in every aspect of the British life. All school children now must visit a mosque. Rapes in some parts of the United Kingdom have gone up by 400 %. Frighting times
@anon11:44
DeleteMuch of what you write is true. Yet the greatest fault lies with the Catholics who went along with Vatican II.
God Bless
---Introibo
The ultimately satisfying answer to July 30 at 1:18 (above), about the "perpetual successors problem" (or conundrum), as we face it today, in my own opinion, can be boiled down to one word which is more accurate and illuminating than any other: Samson. Or, Judges 13-16 (deciphered). The answers Introibo gives at 3:35 & 3:36 (above) are, of course, correct, but "Padre Peregrino" and many others like him, shake their heads in dismay about how partial or purely theoretical-sounding, or oh-so abstract or academic-sounding, such "pious platitude" (?) answers seem nowadays. Most people viewing our current "perpetual successors" conundrum, are eager to know about the concrete actual manner by which God can and will "make it happen" by arranging to "bring things to fruition" = show us a real live successor. If us "58 sedes" are correct, exactly how (???) can God get us all to the "Habemus papam!" point, Padre P. is asking us all. Who wants to "mortify their curiousity" as concerns resolving this problem? Those who are or earnestly want to be, Catholics, want to know the answer to the apparent contradiction pointed at by Padre P., which answer decisively proves that there isn't a contradiction, in contrast to merely theorizing about why there isn't necessarily a contradiction. There is an old "proverb" among "58 sedes", which I think even Leo and Introibo would recall as going back into the 1990s (?), which states: "Sedevacantism may lead you into mystery [especially the very mystery posed by the conundrum], but it doesn't lead you into [any] contradiction." {777333 }
ReplyDeleteAs far as commentary about the "perpetual successors" subject is concerned, there isn't exactly any need to reinvent the wheel, so to speak, as much has been said about that subject before. For example, one can type the words "perpetual successors" into the search boxes of websites such as:
Delete(1) www.christorchaos.com , or
(2) https://novusordowatch.org/wire/ , or
(3) https://www.wmreview.org
and click on the magnifying glass search icon. The top result for the first website listed, is T.D.'s March 15, 2024 blog post "Reviewing Jorge's Eleventh Year of Apostasy". Enough said. May God bless you all.