Monday, January 11, 2021

The Wisdom Of Fr. Ronald Knox

 

To My Readers: This past week saw an incredible demand on my time from both professional and personal obligations. To finish my post, I would have had to work into the late night getting maybe an hour or so of sleep before going to work today (1/11/21) for a twelve hour workday. Normally, that's what I would have done and it would have taken quite a toll on me. Thanks to A Simple Man, I am putting up one of his fine posts; the post I was planning for today will be finished up and published next Monday.

After all the disturbing and horrific events perpetrated by the forces of evil, I'm most happy to publish this edifying post on the life of the good and holy priest, Fr. Ronald Knox (1888-1957). Please feel free to comment to Simple Man, and I will respond as well in the evenings when I get the chance. I always respond to comments and queries, especially when addressed to me. Simple Man, thank you for another wonderful post and allowing me to get the sleep I needed! Be assured of my continual prayers for you, my dear readers---Introibo

The Wisdom Of Fr. Ronald Knox

by A Simple Man

In times where the One True Church has been eclipsed by the ecumenical farce known on this blog as the Vatican II Sect (mistakenly identified as the Roman Catholic Church by the world at large), the task of handing on the true teaching of the Church has been carried out diligently by Traditionalists scattered throughout the world. Although it is a great blessing to have been raised within the true Catholic religion in these times, it must be said that many Traditionalists were once strangers to Holy Mother Church (yours truly included). Whatever flavor of non-Catholic one may have been (including those who were temporarily “fallen away Catholics”, i.e. those who apostatized from the faith only to later return to it), there is a certain edification to be found in reading the writings of those who underwent similar struggles and difficulties in the past.

On the list of those who converted to Catholicism, famous names from recent centuries include (in no particular order, from both laity and clergy) G.K. Chesterton, John Henry Newman, Henry James Coleridge, Frederick Faber, Leonid Feodorov, Orestes Brownson, William Lockhart, Francis Paul Libermann, and Henry Edward Manning. One such convert whose words we shall turn to today was a man who went by the name of Ronald Arbuthnott Knox.

The following sources have been consulted for this post:

A Spiritual Aeneid (By R. A. Knox, it was written in 1918 and is an autobiographical depiction of his life leading up to his conversion. It is available online as a public domain work.)

Encyclopedia Britannica (Online edition, biographical entry on Ronald Knox.)

The Book of Catholic Authors (By Walter Romig, Sixth Series, published in 1960; online edition hosted by CatholicAuthors.com.)

Monsignor Knox, A Reluctant Legend (By Wilfrid Sheed, from the February 1957 issue of “The Catholic World”, published by the Missionary Society of St. Paul the Apostle, New York; online transcript hosted by EWTN.)

In Soft Garments (A collection of conferences held by R. A. Knox when he was the Chaplain serving Catholics attending Trinity College at the University of Oxford. Version cited is the 2010 edition by Ignatius Press.)

The Priestly Life (A retreat by Ronald Knox, online edition hosted by EWTN.)

The Essentials of Spiritual Unity (A companion work of sorts to his autobiography, written by R. A. Knox in fits and starts from August 1915 through September 1917. Online edition hosted by EWTN.)

The Mass in Slow Motion (By R.A. Knox, published in 1948 by Sheed & Ward, New York; online edition hosted by Corpus Christi Watershed. It is a collection of sermons for a convent school run by the Assumption Sisters.)

To summarize Fr. Knox’s life, he was born on February 17, 1888 as the youngest of six children. He spent much of his youth within a country rectory under the care of his father’s mother and siblings, immersed in a rural Protestantism that bore more similarities to the simple affectations of Evangelical devotion than to the codified doctrine and liturgical rituals of Anglicanism. However, Knox spoke fondly of the placid, God-fearing atmosphere of his Victorian home; with an Anglican bishop as a father and Anglican bishops as grandfathers (indeed, on both sides of his family!), this combination and pedigree seemed ill-suited to produce a “rebel”, as Ronald would sometimes refer to himself in retrospect.

A student of exceptional brilliance, he began writing hymns from the age of six, progressing to plays and verse in Greek and Latin by the age of twelve. From the boarding school of Eton College to the Balliol College of Oxford University, he seemed to shine wherever he went. At the age of seventeen, driven by his ascetic impulses and an inward recognition of how much his nature would crave the helps of a happy marriage, he made a vow of celibacy; after graduation, he became an Anglican priest in 1912 and was appointed Chaplain at Oxford’s Trinity College. Even so, his literary output continued in the form of poems and satirical works, to the point his humor was recognizable by much of the English public (even though he himself did not purposefully seek notoriety or self-aggrandizement). As such, his conversion to Roman Catholicism came as a shock to his Anglican brethren.

To those close to him, it might not have been so. Ronald Knox’s attachment to the Oxford Movement (known also as Tractarianism, it was a movement within “High Church” Anglicanism to restore older Christian traditions into the Church of England’s liturgy and theology that had fallen out of practice; John Henry Newman was a particularly famous proponent of this movement prior to his conversion to Catholicism) within the Anglican Church (which Knox’s father was opposed to as part of the Church of England’s Evangelical Party) was driven by his opposition to not only the popular skeptics and agnostics of that day, but also Anglicans who pursued ecumenism at the expense of doctrine and theology (sound familiar?). Among the many influences which drove him towards the One True Church included: two trips to Catholic Belgium (wherein he found himself desiring to transplant their religious practices to the Church of England); the deaths during the early years of World War I of Pope Pius X (whom he had never met), Monsignor Robert Hugh Benson (a convert from Anglicanism that he had met but once), and Father Maturin (a friend who perished when the Lusitania was sunk by a German U-boat); the Jesuit Fr. C. C. Martindale (Monsignor Benson’s biographer); Eusebius’s history of the Catholic Church in Greek (which enhanced his understanding of the Papacy’s importance to the early Church); the outbreak of the Great War, which drove many of his friends and pupils to becoming Catholic before they entered military service; and finally, a “spiritual exile” from Trinity College that lasted for over two years, during which he resided at Shrewsbury, worked for the British War Office in military intelligence, and then (at the suggestion of the Oratorian Fr. John Talbot, another convert from Anglicanism) underwent a retreat to the Benedictine abbey in Farnborough at Hampshire. It was there where Ronald Knox was received into the Church on September 22, 1917.

After his conversion, Ronald Knox was shortly thereafter ordained as a Catholic priest at Westminster; he was appointed as Chaplain for the Knights of Malta in 1922; from 1926 to 1939 he served as Chaplain to Catholic students at Oxford. Such was his reputation that he paved the way for other learned Englishmen to realize that Catholicism was not a religion to be ashamed of. (In an interesting turn of events, Knox referred to G. K. Chesterton as an “oracle” and his “earliest master and model”; in turn, Chesterton would credit Fr. Knox, to some degree, for his eventual conversion in 1922. Fr. Knox would return the favor by delivering a famous eulogy at Chesterton’s Requiem Mass in 1936.) He continued with his prolific literary output, which included not only collections of sermons and apologetical works, but also detective novels of great renown.

After retiring from the Oxford Chaplaincy in 1939, he began his work on a new English translation of Sacred Scripture at the request of the bishops of England and Wales. He would be the first Catholic since St. Jerome to not only attempt such a gargantuan task as a solitary effort (for even the Douay-Rheims and the majority of Protestant translations were due to the work of many hands and many minds), but to complete it; his translation of the New Testament was completed in 1945, and the Old Testament would follow four years later. His approved translation was so popular and widespread that it now simply goes by “the Knox Bible”. After completing this monumental work, he would go on to produce exemplary translations of both Thomas à Kempis’s Imitation of Christ and St. Therese of Lisieux’s autobiography. The latter would prove to be his last completed work (even though several of his books were published posthumously); after coming down with a sudden illness in 1957, he was diagnosed with an incurable cancer.

On August 24, 1957, Fr. Ronald Knox passed away at the age of sixty-nine.

Not a bad life, all things considered! He would probably feel quite chagrined at all the fuss being made about him and his catalog.

A scant excerpt of his many words follows: all spelling, italics, and punctuation are as cited. Bolded words are my emphasis.

“In order to preach the Gospel well, the ministers of Christ want to have pure hearts and pure lips. Pure hearts, because in proportion as their consciences reproach them with the kind of life they are living, the kind of thoughts they are thinking, in that proportion they will feel false inside, and to feel false inside means a want of conviction about the handing on of your message. Pure lips, because it is on the whole by what we say, and the way in which we say it, that other people judge our characters; and if the priest is given to backbiting, to outbursts of anger in his speech, to boasting, to flattery, to grousing, to lying, to blasphemy, to unseemly talk, he is not likely to impress the people who listen to his sermons. That does not apply only to the clergy. Every Christian is preaching Christ, every day, by the life he or she lives, by the words he or she utters, from day to day; you are all the time unconsciously influencing other people. Don't try to influence other people CONSCIOUSLY, to talk good and put on airs of goodness; it will only turn you into a prig, and your friends will see through it. Try to live near to our Lord; get inside the thought of what his words mean, live on that model, so that you may be a friend of his, so that you may be the kind of person he feels at home with. Then, unconsciously, you will influence other people. In this nasty, wind-swept world, in which charity has gone cold and there is a frost of winter all about us, your life will be a glow of love; a faint glow, perhaps, but one at which other people can just warm their hands.” – The Mass in Slow Motion, p. 41-42

“Why do Christian sects insist on monogamy? Not on any purely ethical ground, for such ground is lacking. Let us take monogamy as a case in point. On what ground is a Church which claims divine institution to deny access to her privileges to the bigamist? It is very hard to say that the principle is part of the common delivery of the conscience of mankind; the Mahomedans sanction other practices, so did the ancient Jews—communities where we find clear recognition of the intimate tie between morality and religion. The utilitarian test, always doubtful in this connection, breaks down absolutely in face of a great war [World War I] that stamps out a large part of the male population. We might say that in Europe it has become part of the recognized principles of society and could not therefore be abrogated without infinite confusions, but even this return to the practical appeal would be nugatory in those African countries where society at large tolerates the principle of the harem and those who desire to become Christians find great social difficulties in consequence. We must have a divine utterance to support us if we are to incur the odium of insisting on this particular taboo. In this ease [recte case], it appears, we are bound to invoke a supernatural authority, and, if we have once invoked it, we are henceforward its servants, wherever it chooses to lead us. That is to say, we must invoke an authority. In doing so, we must see clearly what we are doing. In order to plead an authority here, we are submitting to the dictation of our authority (whatever it may be) on all subjects on which it may choose to dictate-not merely on all matters on which we find it convenient to appeal to it, for this is clearly destructive of the very essence of authority. It must be such that we cannot say "I do not agree with it here"—for, if not, our friend with the four wives will ask us to take no notice of it in his case either. In emancipating ourselves from the indecisive rule of King Log—practical convenience, etc.—we are electing King Stork. In appealing to the bramble for a ruling, we are making it king of all the trees-not for this or that occasion, over this or that issue, but at all times and everywhere alike: With it, not with us, rests the decision as to how far it will carry us.” – The Essentials of Spiritual Unity, paragraphs 17-18

“For the theologians teach us that Our Lord, as Man, was "simul viator et comprehensor:" he lived in our world, and at the same time he enjoyed, even as man, that full and open vision of God which is to be man's reward in heaven. We cannot begin to understand such a conception; but it is theologically certain that while he lay in the manger at Bethlehem, stretching out his hands in helpless infancy to his Virgin Mother, while he hung upon the Cross, every muscle wearied out with the strain of his agony and every joint racked with suffering, he was even then enjoying in that secret fastness the open vision of God. Our Lord was, all his life, at one with the Church Militant and simultaneously at one with the Church Triumphant. "Semper agens"--there was no incident of mortality, sin only excepted, that he would not experience. "Semper quietus"--he achieved that experience without ceasing to enjoy, even in his human nature, the rest which is the supreme recompense for all human endeavor. And if we expect to find the Life of God mirrored in the human Nature of Our Lord, so we expect to find his human Nature mirrored in the Blessed Sacrament. Here, too, he is always active, yet always at rest. Always active; from day to day, through the hands of his priests, he offers himself upon a million altars for the world's salvation. Not, indeed, that he can labor or suffer or sorrow any more; that is all over; only once the Agony and the scourging, only once the nails and the lance and the Crown of Thorn. But the force which was generated, if we may so crudely describe it, by the Sacrifice made once for all on Calvary still pulsates and energizes in the Holy Sacrifice of the Altar. The Divine Victim is still at work, fresh graces to be won, fresh needs to be met, fresh sins to be atoned for. Think of a piece of music, that is finished, you might say, once for all when the composer's hand makes the last scratch upon the paper. In a sense, yes, but in a sense it has only just begun; the same piece of music will be played again and again all the world over; the echoes of the original composition will not die, it may be, as long as mankind lasts. So it is with our Lord's sacrifice; in a sense the stab of the lance put the final stroke to it, yet in a sense it has never ceased and never can cease while the world stands. Christ still lives among us, his fellow-men, and because he so lives, he is still at work. We go up to the altar with our hearts full of desires and longings which our conscious thoughts can hardly express; and all these desires and longings of ours are caught up and whirled away from us by the continuous stream of intercession which goes up from the Sacred Heart. It is a great furnace, this Sacrament of the altar, a great work-shop of prayer; never idle for a moment, while there are human needs to be met, and human tears to be wiped away.” – The Priestly Life, Chapter 1

“LET ME SUGGEST this point to you—that God, not man, must be the measure of the universe, must be the standard by which we are to judge all our experience. If we make man the centre of all our experience, then the riddle of existence becomes insoluble, and we had far better give it up. […] Now if you deny the existence of God, or if you deny it for practical purposes by treating it as a fifty-fifty probability, or if you use the word "God" in an insincere way, meaning a mere abstraction or a mere ideal when you use it, then you have to say that man is the measure of all things; that his thought is the highest form of wisdom which exists, that his conscience is the standard by which good and evil must be determined, that his intuitions are the only test of beauty. And indeed more than that; if you are to attain any kind of intellectual satisfaction, you must say that man’s thought is the source of all truth, makes things true; that his conscience is the arbiter of good, makes things right and wrong; that his intuitions are the origin of all beauty, make things beautiful or ugly. And that notion, if you press it, leads to mere intellectual despair.” – In Soft Garments, p. 19-20

“I’ve been trying to show that our Lord did claim to bring with him a unique revelation from God—not merely a new moral code, but the foundations of a theological certitude which previous ages had never even aspired to. And that is the conclusion which would, I think, be reached by any impartial critic approaching the documents for the first time. The reason why many non-Catholic writers, especially of the older generation, are blind to all that, don’t recognize the far-reaching nature of our Lord’s claims, is because they shrink from the corollaries which such a recognition would involve. They shrink, through a kind of rationalist prejudice, from having to admit that our Lord was, in a unique sense, the Son of God. They shrink, through a kind of sentimental reverence, from having to admit that one whose career has had so profound an influence on history was an impostor or a madman. But it is a mark of intellectual cowardice, to shrink from corollaries. God wouldn’t have given us an intellect, if he didn’t want us to think straight.” – In Soft Garments, p. 54-55

“The divine miracles, as we understand them are exceptional favours, bestowed here and there, now and then—birthday presents, as it were, to remind us that we are after all his children. He does not perform them as a rule to order, unfailingly, in answer to some special effort on our part…in the ordinary way he does mean miracles to be the exception, not the rule. We are not to pension off the doctors and neglect to have the drains seen to because, sometimes, there may have been a miraculous cure of typhoid. We are not to neglect prayers for the dead because, now and again, we have supernatural proof that a soul has missed its Purgatory. That is what is the trouble with these modern devotees of miracle; they overdo it, they make it the rule, not the exception. They want us to believe that there is no such thing as pain, that it cannot be God’s will for a human being to suffer. They want us to believe that there is no such thing as death, no plunge into the mysteries of the unknown. And that is not our philosophy, nor is it a human philosophy at all; we cannot believe that God countenances it, whatever manifestations may accompany it.” – In Soft Garments, p. 75

You must join the Church as a religion, not as a party or as a clan. But if I am asked where I find peace in being a Catholic—does It look like it? Rather it seems to me that in the disintegration of the world, and of Europe in particular (far greater, perhaps, than we yet realize) which must follow [World War I], men will look for guidance to the two institutions which override the boundaries of country—International Socialism and the Catholic Church. And the forces of disintegration which will be at work will be in conflict most of all with the latter institution, because, being more centralized, it will be at once more formidable and more vulnerable. To feel every stab the Church feels, to rejoice in the triumph she celebrates, that should be enough to keep a man’s interests active, and his heart awake.” – A Spiritual Aeneid, p. 254

It would go far beyond the length of this blog to document all the words of Fr. Ronald Knox, that distinguished son of England; I will leave you with a particularly insightful excerpt regarding the year 1914, when Ronald Knox was still an Anglican priest, writing his satirical pieces to point out the issues affecting the Church of England as he saw them. To those of us suffering through a Post-Vatican II world, some of his words will seem quite awfully prescient:

“The argument of [Reunion All Round] was a simple reductio ad absurdum. If (as the British public seemed to think) it was the duty of all Christian bodies to unite for worship, sinking their differences on each side, why should the movement be confined to Christians? What about the Jews, from whom we were only separated by the Council of Jerusalem? And if the Jews, why not the Mohammedans? We could always split the difference between monogamy and tetragamy by having two wives all round. The Brahmins presented few difficulties: the worshippers of Mumbo-jumbo only needed a passing reference. At this point the spirit of satire carried me away, and I suggested with every appearance of misgiving that perhaps after all, given proper precautions, charity should demand of us that we should accept the submission of the Pope. After making arrangements for the suitable degradation of the Roman hierarchy, I went boldly forward to the case of the atheists, and suggested that we might join with them in a common definition of the Divine Nature, which should assert it to be such as to involve Existence and Non-existence simultaneously. Here, with a few exhortations to the public, I left my argument to my readers. Now, a reductio ad absurdum argument may be used merely for fun, and without any serious purpose of satire behind it. But I did not write in this vein of good-tempered exaggeration: I meant what I said—or rather, of course, I meant the opposite of what I said. If you are to do this, your logical developments must depend upon a valid reasoning process in satire, no less than in a mathematical treatise. Thus, although it was possible to regard Reunion All Round as merely a graceful jeu d'esprit, I meant it for much more than this: I meant that, if the principles of Kikuyu [Author’s note: Knox is referring to a 1913 missionary conference that had occurred in Kikuyu, Kenya – then known as British East Africa – where the matter of admitting non-Anglicans to the Anglican Communion was suggested, among other “heretical” proceedings.] were right, something like this (discounting, of course, the casual absurdities) did really follow as a logical consequence. If, in the name of charity, it was the duty of the Church to aim at the inclusion of all good men who were professing Christians, and herself make sacrifices in order to do so, why should she not have the same duty in connection with all good men simply because they were good? Why should a belief, often of the shadowiest, in the undefined "Divinity" of Christ be a touchstone of Church membership? For the life of me I could never see why we had to regret being out of communion with a good man like Dr. Horton, more than being out of communion with a good man like Professor Gilbert Murray, who repudiates Theism. If the Church, without being called "uncharitable," is to have tests and definitions at all, why should you draw the line at this test or that definition, and cry out in horror, "No, no, that would be uncharitable?" I know that some of my Anglican readers think all this very preposterous; but we must wait till Theosophy [Author’s note: Theosophy is an occult religion that originated in late 19th century America, which has – among its many aims – an intent to eclipse all religions in pursuit of an “ancient, universal religion.” Naturally, it is rife with many elements common to Freemasonry.] has come out a little more into the light of day. I have read a manual of theosophical belief which declares confidently that the religion of the future lies in a combination of all that is best in Christianity and Brahminism—that very combination that tickled us so when we read it in Reunion All Round. And Mr. Wells, who is an adept at the logical carrying out of implied principles, has already provided us with a religion in which a personal God, not an Incarnate God, is asserted as a basis of doctrine.” – A Spiritual Aeneid, p.166-168

I can only wonder what Fr. Knox would have said if he had lived long enough to witness Vatican II promulgating the same ideas that he had satirically mocked decades prior!

In conclusion, Fr. Ronald A. Knox was a master of the literary craft, a tireless worker, and a humble man. In my personal opinion, his works are incredibly edifying, and would make wonderful gifts for anyone, be they non-Catholics ripe for conversion, or Catholics seeking to increase their understanding of the faith they profess. It is my sincerest hope that such a resolute and learned defender of the Catholic Faith is now among the saints of Heaven. Alas, lacking a true Pope to beatify or canonize, we can only pray for the repose of his soul: eternal rest grant unto Fr. Ronald Knox, O Lord, and let perpetual light shine upon him. May he rest in peace.

Amen!

57 comments:

  1. It is refreshing to read these conversion stories as the Vatican 2 sect discourages any conversion to Catholicism because it is allegedly a nonsense. It's a proof that it is not the Catholic Church.

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    1. Simon,
      Remember Bergoglio, "Proselytism is solemn nonsense." The Vatican II sect never was nor will be the Catholic Church!

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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  2. Knox translation: https://www.newadvent.org/bible/gen001.htm

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  3. Over the course of this week, as a post-addendum, I will be commenting with interesting tidbits from Fr. Ronald Knox's biography, "The Life of Right Reverend Ronald Knox", written by Evelyn Waugh and first published in 1959. The version cited is the 2011 edition, republished in 2019 in the Penguin Classics line by Penguin Random House UK.

    - (From page 442) On June 27, 1957: Pope Pius XII (who had given Fr. Knox the dignity and title of "Protonotary Apostolic"), after learning of the monsignor's declining health, sent him a relic of Pope Blessed Innocent XI (whom Pius XII had just beatified the prior year). His message included a "warm commendation" for Fr. Knox's "praiseworthy achievement" in translating the Latin Vulgate into a new English edition, and described the Knox Bible as "a monument of many years of patient study and toil."

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    1. Simple Man,
      Thank you for your outstanding work, as always!

      ---Introibo

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    2. Continuing:

      - (From pages 42-44): In the latter half of the 1890s, Edmund George Valpy Knox (Ronald's eldest brother, and the future editor of the satirical magazine Punch from 1932-1949) produced a family magazine called "Bolliday Bingo" (a parody of certain weeklies at the time), which all of the Knox siblings contributed to. Ronald's contributions included 'Publius et Amilla', a serial drama written in Latin. Ronald would letter set up his own in-house paper, "The Gluttonous Grampoid", where he would continue his Latin serial. (Please note that he's not even ten years of age at this time these household magazines began.)

      - (From page 45) Attending the Summer Fields boarding school from 1896 to 1900, Ronald Knox's time was generally happy and uneventful. As it was, he's on record for complaining about only two things: a fellow student by the name of Hugh Dalton (who would be a future Chancellor of the Exchequer - the UK equivalent of the US Secretary of the Treasury - from 1945-1947, and was known for being peevish and irascible by his own biographer, as well as a socialist in his college days. The presence of a socialist among Cambridge undergraduates was actually a rarity back then), and about the fact that the school matron only distributed **three** sheets of toilet paper to each boy per day.

      A quote to cap off this portion, but first some background: Sir Arnold Lunn, whose father was a lay Methodist minister, was an agnostic and notable critic of the Catholic Church, and wrote critiques of five eminent converts to Catholicism, of which Ronald Knox was one. In 1930, Lunn proposed to Knox an exchange of letters for subsequent publication in which Lunn would advance all of his conceivable objections to the Church and to which Knox would reply; the latter agreed, and these letters continued for over a year, after which in 1932 were published in a book titled "Difficulties". These exchanges laid the groundwork for Lunn's conversion, and he was received by none other than Fr. Knox into the Church on July 13, 1933. Lunn would go on to become a notable Catholic apologist, "the most tireless...of his generation", according to Knox's biographer Evelyn Waugh.

      With all that being said, the following excerpt is from a letter written to Arnold Lunn (as cited on page 55): "I am not going to decide whether the average Catholic Mexican is what you call 'a better man' than the average Protestant Englishman. I do not know - I know which I would rather go for a walking tour with, but that is not the same thing. I prefer Englishmen to the natives of any other country in the world, but that is not going to do them much good, poor dears, at the Day of Judgment."

      A very telling line: even though Fr. Knox preferred his fellow countrymen to those of any other nationality or ethnic group in the world (a most natural and commonplace sentiment, to prefer your own kin over others), he recognized that such would have no bearing on his eternal salvation or theirs.

      Sincerely,

      A Simple Man

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    3. Continuing:

      - Another quote, from the beginning of the book on page 4, taken from a 1944 exchange from Ronald Knox to a convert by the name of Miss Joyce Lambert: "I doubt if we do laugh at anything in this sublunary world except when we think we see imperfection in it. Are we, then, to think of Heaven as quite humourless, St Philip Neri and St Thomas More never smiling again?"

      (Even our sense of humor will be sanctified in Heaven.)

      - (From pages 73-74): It can be said that Ronald's first inclination towards Catholicism was due to a book by R. H. Benson called "The Light Invisible". Although a convert to the Church by the time Knox read it, Benson had written this book while he had still been an Anglican. Although Evelyn Waugh characterizes the book's tone as "occult rather than genuinely mystical", he nonetheless states that "[The Light Invisible] presented to Ronald for the first time with the ideas of the Virgin Mary as a central figure of devotion and of the priesthood as a peculiar state whose function was not primarily administrative, exhortatory or exemplary, but sacramental. The ideas came to him in picturesque trappings and (he was not yet sixteen) fired his imagination."

      Sincerely,

      A Simple Man

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    4. Continuing:

      - (From pages 107-108): Remarking on Ronald Konx's general lack of enthusiasm for politics in general, Eveyln Waugh writes the following regarding Ronald's time spent around various political clubs at Oxford's Balliol College: "[Ronald] was later rather doubtful of the value of those debates. They trained a man, he thought, to leave the obvious unsaid even to the detriment of truth; to prefer the ingenious and extravagant to the sound argument; to compromise with reason. They removed rhetoric from its true function as the art of persuasion, and made it the art of entertaining conversation. Ronald said of his brother Wilfred that he 'was too clever to find his way easily into the Church and too simple to feel the need of it' and of himself that his submission to Rome was delayed, partly, because 'it seemed so obvious'."

      A bit of an interesting postscript on Ronald's brother Wilfred Knox: like Ronald, he would also go on to become an Anglican priest; unlike Ronald, he would remain with the Church of England despite his strong emphasis and support of the Anglo-Catholic tradition (namely, the school of thought that defends and acknowledges the Catholic origins of Anglicanism without necessarily asserting the need to be in union with Rome). On page 104, Evelyn writes that it was chiefly due to Wilfred that Ronald "caught his slight and transient infection of Socialism", as - during those college years - Ronald would describe himself as a "Tory-Socialist", by which [Evelyn writes] "[Ronald] meant primarily that he abhorred equally the materialist Liberalism dominant in the country and the Jingoism professed by the thrusting young Conservatives who were typified by F.E. Smith and [Sir Edward] Carson."

      Given that these shortly-lived views were held many years before Marx's ideas flourished into bloody flowers - before the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia; before the rise of National Socialism in Germany; before the Soviet Union and Maoist China took his ideas to their logical extreme with Communism - I don't feel inclined to be all that sore about this brief flirtation, for hindsight tends to bring a lot of clarity to youthful exuberance. (After all, how many can say that their college years were completely devoid of bad ideas?)

      Sincerely,

      A Simple Man

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    5. One more post to cap off the week, this time from "Ronald Knox: A Man for All Seasons" (published in 2016, which includes not only a selection of published and unpublished writings by R.A. Knox, but also various essays about him from other individuals); the essay in question is "Twenty Years Later", written by Knox in 1937, and it concerns some of his thoughts and reflections two decades after his conversion. (Cited essay covers pages 331-336)

      Some particular excerpts:

      "To have been brought up in the Faith from childhood is perhaps an even greater grace than the grace of conversion; it is good for a man if he has born the yoke in his youth. But the cradle Catholic has grown up with, and into, his religion; it has cost him no tears, made no great laceration in his feelings. For us, grace has blazed its trail unforgettably over the course of our lives, set its stamp upon us."

      "The Catholic Church is a perfect society, but she is not a society of perfect individuals; Catholics are men and women, with imperfections of humanity. And closer experience of the Church...does mean coming across plenty of Catholics...who realize so little the proud position they hold, who avail themselves so little of the spiritual advantages they enjoy. [...] But to be disappointed in Catholics - some Catholics - is not to be disappointed in the Catholic Church. What of the Church herself, her system, her doctrines, her code of morals, her approach to God, her traditions of holiness? Do these, as time goes on, and they become familiarized to you, and you see them with less freshness of vision, see something other and something less than they did at first? Something other? I am speaking of my own experience - yes. Something less? No; something deeper, fuller, richer, more abiding."

      "...if your hopes of a speedy return of England to the Faith, of spectacular movements and large-scale results, beat less high than they did formerly, that is not all loss. It means that you have learned a lesson of patience and confidence, learned to take the longer view of history and a calmer view of the immediate situation. You have learned to wait, dissatisfied only with yourself, on the unhurrying purposes of God."

      Sometimes, it can be hard to keep the big picture of Divine Providence in mind. May we always be mindful of this, and seek to bind our will to God's.

      Sincerely,

      A Simple Man

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  4. “When the tide of Knoxious eloquence has receded, Catholics who have left themselves exposed to it find their footing in the Faith less sure than it had been. They are amused — perhaps — but troubled. They are beset with doubts and indecisions. They are, ultimately, left in that confused state that the Masonic enemies of the Church (and their Jewish progenitors) rejoice to see: when they are ready to surrender the uniqueness and certitude of Catholic doctrine in favor of some anti-Christian inter-faith creed.”—The Problem of Monsignor Ronald Knox, https://fatherfeeney.wordpress.com/2009/08/23/the-point-july-1958/

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    1. @ 12:05 PM: You know, that's a pretty interesting read --- and very well written--- and it gives a more critical, rounded, nuanced view of Msgr. Knox. I think sometimes we Catholics don't offer a critical analyses of even good men or priests; we overemphasize their good, to the neglect of possible shortcomings---which we all have.

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    2. To anon@12:05 PM,

      First of all, given that Monsignor Knox *explicitly* argued against the sort of inter-faith ecumenism (and was one of the reasons he left Anglicanism to begin with) that Fr. Feeney raises as an argument, it rings hollow.

      Secondly, relying on Fr. Feeney for your argumentation does you no credit, given his own problems. (As seen here, as but one example: https://introiboadaltaredei2.blogspot.com/2020/03/a-sickness-of-soul.html)

      Thirdly, just to speak on one point of Fr. Feeney's argument against Mgr. Knox, let's take the Knox translation of Isaiah 7:14 as "Sign you ask none, but sign the Lord will give you. Maid shall be with child, and shall bear a son, that shall be called Emmanuel." Feeney takes this as an implicit derogation and denial of the Virgin Birth entirely; notwithstanding that the English vernacular ties "maid" with "maiden" - especially a young one, and SPECIFICALLY a virgin, and had for centuries at time of translation - the very footnote for this verse (at least going by New Advent's online edition; I don't know if the hardback Knox Bible originally had them) specifically notes that this verse points to the Virgin Birth, and that it could not refer to any contemporary event. Fr. Feeney, being an American by birth, seems to have missed this understanding about 'maid' that would have come instantly to the average Englishman.

      From what I recall, Knox was fairly open in that he set out to create a translation that would not only maintain doctrinal fidelity, but would also reflect and convey how an Englishman would speak and think of things (which is not an easy task, and is likely why many - Pope Pius XII included - lauded the fruit of his efforts).

      Also, for Fr. Feeney to criticize Mgr. Knox on his alleged attitude towards papal pronouncements (I lack the "Off the Record" book published in 1953 to check against, but given that it was a selection of letters addressed to individual inquirers on general religious topics, I have no idea what the context is) strikes me as highly hypocritical in light of Feeney's excommunication by Pius XII (and not merely because of disobedience, but also because of his erroneous teachings).

      The overall tone is seemingly obsessed at taking the most uncharitable possible viewpoint for everything that Mgr. Knox did, even to the point of criticizing his general demeanor for being insufficiently pious and ardorous (there's a reason that the British stereotype of having a "stiff upper lip" exists, and itself doesn't count as a theological argument at all; it is simply an ad hominem). He offers no evidence that people are generally left doubtful and less sure of the Catholic Faith as a result of Knox's writings. In light of those who converted to Catholicism BECAUSE of Knox's influence, I find Fr. Feeney's argument less than credible.

      (Not to say that this post elevated Mgr. Knox's teachings to the equivalent of magisterial teachings; nor have I attributed to him the status of "theologian", which he simply lacked the academic degrees to possess, notwithstanding lay people who called him one in popular parlance and simply didn't know any better. I'm sure if you pored over Ronald Knox's writings with a finely toothed comb, it would be possible that you could find one or two things that may be objectionable. Would they be at the level explicit errors or heresies? I certainly doubt it.)

      Sincerely,

      A Simple Man

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    3. Yay, Child abusing psychopathic Feeney

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    4. As a brief addendum to my prior reply: the whole thrust of this post was simply to provide a chronicle of a rather well-known convert's journey, and to give examples of his writings that I found to be edifying. It was not intended to say that "every single one of this man's words are sacrosanct and deserve to be our model", since that's not how the Church teaches her faithful. (Furthermore, since he's not beatified or canonized, I can't rank him up to the level of say, St. Alphonsus or St. Thomas or St. Robert Bellarmine. But that wasn't the point of the post at all.)

      Was Ronald Knox a moral theologian like McHugh, Callan, Van Noort, Pohle, Fenton, et al? Not at all, for he lacked the academic pedigree to be such (and this is just objective reality). Given his particular track in life (which focused mostly on popular apologetics within the British Empire, specifically geared against agnostics, atheists, and false ecumenists based on what I've read), pursuing that particular station simply wasn't in his interest. Given his position as chaplain at Oxford, he also technically wasn't a parish or diocesan priest IIRC, so he was already on a different "ecclesial career path" as it was compared to most, so to speak.

      Does Mgr. Knox's work seem edifying in general? Based on what I've read, yes. (I'm currently reading through his apologetics work "The Belief of Catholics" right now, which I did not have on hand at the time I wrote this post in early December; so far, it's been quite good.)

      At any rate, given that Fr. Knox **is on the record** for satirizing false ecumenism (with an entire play, no less!), I'm far more inclined to weigh in favor of Fr. Knox rather than against him, if his only detractor of note is Fr. Feeney.

      If there are records to be found of ecclesial reprimanding of Mgr. Knox for going too far in his teaching, or for spreading error, then I will revise my opinion accordingly.

      Sincerely,

      A Simple Man

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    5. Father Feeney was disobedient to the lawful authority of the Church (when it had a true Pope at the helm)---but in all fairness to him, he was not the personal author of The Point. It was written under his auspices and encouragement, but the articles were written by members of the Center --- two of whom, at least, eventually left and went on to VERY lucrative careers on Wall Street!

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    6. To anon@3:30 PM,

      That is a fair point to make. The cited transcript provides no specific authorship of the article in question; nonetheless, given that Leonard Feeney was nonetheless the apparent editor of The Point, that article would have to have received his proverbial blessing before being published. As such, I think my criticism still stands to some degree.

      Sincerely,

      A Simple Man

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    7. Brief correction to my prior post: Knox's "Reunion All Round" was a satirical essay, not a play.

      Sincerely,

      A Simple Man

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    8. Simple Man,
      Your criticism stands in its entirety. Feeney was the editor, and--to borrow a phrase from Masonic Harry Truman--the buck stops here. Feeney was the leader of his cult "St Benedict Center" and I do not hesitate to call it such. He and the make-believe "nun" "Sr" or "Mother" Catherine Clarke. Contrary to anon3:30, Feeney was not excommunicated for disobedience but HERESY.

      The fact that two members of his cult had lucrative careers on Wall Street does nothing to vitiate the fact that they had no competence to stand in judgement over Fr. Knox as heretical followers of excommunicated heretic Feeney. I guess there's more than one "Wolf of Wall Street."

      ---Introibo

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    9. Introibo: the mention of the writers was not to say, one way or the other, that their criticisms of Fr. Knox were justifiable or not justifiable; rather, the mention of the writers was ONLY to point out that Fr. Feeney was NOT personally the author.

      And maybe they left Feeney because they didn't agree with him....they did leave...well before they moved to Still River and before the excommunocation.

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    10. @anon6:19
      Your point is well-taken. Thank you for the clarification.

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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    11. Just to make one particular point that's parallel to a comment from the anon@ January 11, 2021 at 1:31 PM: to give a contemporary example, Introibo disagrees with Bp. Sanborn, Bp. Dolan, and the late Fr. Cekada on the matter of "una cum" Masses.

      Likewise, Introibo thinks that the SSPV are wrong when it comes to the validity of the Thuc consecrations (in that, as far as I'm aware, the SSPV still maintains that they are invalid).

      But when it comes to edifying material to strengthen one's Catholic faith, I'm pretty sure that Introibo would heartily endorse the vast majority of material provided over the years by Sanborn, Dolan, Cekada, and the clergy of the SSPV (including Fr. William Jenkins, etc).

      It is in that light that I view the words and teachings of Mgr. Ronald Knox: although he was not a theologian or a canonist or a bishop, I would wager (if I were a betting man) a hefty sum that his words would more likely help deepen and strengthen my faith instead of weakening it.

      Thus far, I've yet to encounter anything indicating that Fr. Knox was a Modernist, or that he clung to heresy pertinaciously.

      (And as John Daly has demonstrated elsewhere, the Church's threshold for declaring pertinacity is much higher than one might expect: https://romeward.com/articles/239752007/heresy-in-history)

      Sincerely,

      A Simple Man

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  5. I am asking for prayers for my grandmother, who is in the hospital and undergoing heart treatment.

    Paweł

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    1. Glorious Archangel St. Raphael, great prince of the heavenly court, you are illustrious for your gifts of
      wisdom and grace. You are a guide of those who journey by land or sea or air, consoler of the afflicted, and refuge of sinners.

      We beg you, assist us in all our needs and in all the sufferings of this life, as once you helped the young Tobias on his travels. Because you are the "medicine of God," we humbly pray you to heal the many infirmities of our souls and the ills that afflict our bodies.

      We especially ask of you the favor of interceding for Paweł's grandmother - that her heart treatment may be successful and efficacious - and for the great grace of
      purity to prepare us to be temples of the Holy Ghost.

      Amen.

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    2. Pawel,
      I join in the prayer of Simple Man and ask all my readers to pray for your grandmother.

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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    3. Paweł,
      rest assured of my prayers for your dear grandmother!

      God Bless,
      Joanna S.

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  6. Thank you, ASM!
    I was not at all familiar with Fr. Knox but he seems to have had a life that saints live, and his writings read like the great Fr. Frederick Faber addressing a later generation.
    I very much like the 19th and early 20th century English school of Catholic thought: it has clarified many points of Theology for me. (Maybe that is just because of a better understanding that English speakers have with one another without translations getting in the way...I dont know.)
    Cardinal Manning, the writings of GK Chesterton and others made a big impact on my "conversion" away from the NO to Tradition. Maybe you or Intro might delve into Chesterton or even Lewis sometime; although Lewis wasn't an official convert to Catholicism, I believe he had a very Catholic mind. The Screwtape Letters is one of my favorite books.
    At any rate, I'm interested in going into some of Fr Knox's writings now.
    Thank you again.
    Jannie

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    1. Jannie,
      I have some works of Fr Knox gather dust on my library shelf. After reading Simple Man's article, it's time to dust them off and read once more!

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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  7. Hello. I'm sorry for this unrelated question. As to what extent is it forbidden for Catholics to have relations with non-Catholics?

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    1. Bishop Hay has a chapter on it in Sincere Christian I think.

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    2. To anon@5:13 AM,

      Are you referring to marital relations, or just relationships in general (which would include friendships, acquaintances, etcetera)?

      Sincerely,

      A Simple Man

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    3. A Simple Man, I'm referring to simple friendships. That's allowed, correct?

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    4. Anon@5:18 PM,

      McHugh, O.P. and Callan, O.P. remark on such friendships in their "Moral Theology":

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      1145. Association with Sinners.—(a) It is never lawful to associate with sinners in their sins, for thus one becomes a sharer in their guilt. Hence, St. Paul says: "Go out from among them and be ye separate" (II Cor., vi. 17). (b) It is not lawful to associate with sinners even in matters indifferent or good, if one is weak and apt to be led away by them into sin (see 258 sqq.). (c) It is lawful to associate with sinners in things not forbidden, if one is not endangered, and if one aims to convert them to better ways. Thus, our Lord ate with sinners, because He came to call them to repentance (Matt., ix. 10-13).

      1146. Friendship with Sinners.-(a) If this means that we like and dislike the same things as the sinners, it is an evil friendship, and it should be discontinued; (b) if it means that we seek to bring the sinner to imitate our good likes and dislikes, the friendship pertains to charity (Jer, xv. 19).

      1147. Should one continue to show signs of special regard to a friend who has taken to ways of sin? (a) As long as there is hope of betterment, one should not deny the other the benefits of friendship. If it would be wrong to desert a friend because he was perishing from starvation, much more would it be wrong to desert him because he was perishing morally. (b) But if all hope of betterment has gone, one should give up a companionship which is not profitable to either party, and may prove harmful.

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      The matter of the particular friendship in question must have our final end in mind, as well as the circumstances regarding the relationship and how it arose. Speaking very tentatively (because not all friends are equal), I would keep the following general principles in mind:

      - Is your relationship contingent upon you approving or giving license to sinful behavior of their own?

      - Are you bound to associate with them on a regular basis because of duty or employment, or is it a relationship freely chosen?

      - Is there a chance for eventual conversion on their part to the Catholic faith?

      - Are you of sufficiently strong mental and spiritual dispositions to **resist** the natural inclination to accommodate then (or perhaps join them) in matters of faith and religion?

      Keep these in mind, and you should be able to determine whether a particular friendship with a non-Catholic is good or not. But strictly speaking, simple friendships with non-Catholics are not forbidden absolutely (because, if nothing else, this would make evangelization much more difficult).

      Sincerely,

      A Simple Man

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    5. @anon5:18
      Simple Man gave the exact Catholic response.

      ---Introibo

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    6. Thank you very much Simple Man and Introibo.

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    7. Simple Man;
      you unconsciously threw Fr Leonard "friends bad" Feeney and the palmarians under the bus

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    8. Anon@8:52 AM,

      Well, to paraphrase a bit of advice that my father often taught me while I was growing up: though we may be in the world, we are not called to be *of* the world.

      And that advice has a wide variety of applications, including our relationships with other people.

      Sincerely,

      A Simple Man

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    9. i don't understand you.

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    10. Anon@3:32 PM,

      How so?

      If you refer to my prior post, it means this: though we live in this fallen creation, surrounded by sinful influences on all sides, that does not mean we must live as though this world is all that there is.

      To use another metaphor, we are foreigners in this world (in a spiritual sense), for God desires that we attain to everlasting happiness with Him in Heaven.

      But if we decide to "become citizens" of the world (metaphorically speaking) by delighting in sin, despising virtue, and/or ignoring our faith, then we therefore lose our heavenly citizenship. Thus does one become *of* the world.

      Hope that makes it clearer.

      If you're referring to something else, then you'll have to elaborate.

      Sincerely,

      A Simple Man

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    11. I see, but what does it have to do with the palmarians?

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    12. Anon@5:54 PM,

      Nothing in particular. It was more to provide a cap on my comments regarding friendships with non-Catholics.

      Sincerely,

      A Simple Man

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    13. @anon5:54
      I don't understand how Feeney and Palmarians were "thrown under the bus." Feeney (who technically has no right to his ecclesiastical title having been solemnly excommunicated; hence we don't call Martin Luther "Fr. Luther") is vitandus and to be avoided. Palmarians are not allowed to have friendships with non-Palmarians and may only seek converts.

      The principles expressed by theologians McHugh and Callan are perennially true. However, the application may be a little more lax given our unique times. For example, it was easy to find many good Catholic friends in most places in America and elsewhere back in the 1950s. There are so few of us, the need to convert and the need to learn and grow in our Faith is never greater because it is hard to find Traditionalist friends. The Traditionalist clerics, such as SSPV realize this and, e.g., allow mixed marriages much more easily as long as the promises are signed and they are reasonably certain they will be kept.

      ---Introibo

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    14. Well it is true that Feeney and the palmarians are always under the bus by their own choice & ridiculous & anti catholic behavior, but i meant that Simple Man & Catholic theology prove this dudes wrong once more.

      Thank you for the information on the therm "Fr". I didn't know but now i do and will never call this monstruous heretic "Fr" again. We don't say "fr ratzinger" for example.
      Thank you and God bless you.

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    15. Simple man, i understand.

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    16. I refer to him as Fr.Ratzinger.
      He's a Priest forever according to the order of
      Melchiesedek.(1951)
      We'll never know but it's possible Bp.Fellay conditionally consecrated Fr.Ratzinger when they were doing P.R. photo ops together,2009-2012.
      It doesn't matter if he's a possible valid Bishop.
      He is Novus Ordo to the core.
      God bless -Andrew

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    17. Andrew,
      The difference is that Ratzinger was never formally excommunicated by a true pope. Leonard Feeney was so excommunicated a vitandus in 1953 and died "reconciled" to Montini, NEVER having abjured his heresy.

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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    18. i just found out that "throw under the bus" means betraying someone. I used the wrong idiom. Apologies, i am not American.

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  8. Is this edition of catechism "My Catholic Faith" (1963) is Catholic?
    https://archive.org/details/B-001-014-327/page/n7/mode/2up

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    1. Anon@10:23 AM,

      Having not read this particular work before, I see from the online copy that it was originally published in 1949, although the current version archived was published in 1963.

      Looking up the author in question - Bishop Louis La Ravoire Morrow, ordained in 1921 and consecrated a bishop in 1939 - gives me ground for concern. First, a cursory search shows he founded a religious institute known as the Sisters of Mary Immaculate (SMI). Per their biographical overview (www.smiofbpmorrow.org/founder.html), they state:

      - "[Morrow] was also an active and effective council Father at the Second Vatican Council. After retirement from the diocese, our Father continued guiding us, his children, along with his ministries of the printed word, updating his books and distributing copies of the Holy Bible in different languages. He was a staunch believer and supporter of the Human Rights Programme of the United Nations; and also an ardent advocate of women’s rights convinced that justice and peace cannot prevail until and unless women have an equal voice in legislative assemblies throughout the world. With much zeal he promoted the use of inclusive language in liturgy and in publications."

      - "1962-1965: Participated actively in the Second Ecumenical Vatican Council. Pioneer advocate of the “vernacular” in the liturgy. Influential in modifying the law of abstinence and of the Eucharistic fast."

      - Per the Acknowledgments of the 1963 edition, Morrow thanked Fr. Joseph Putz, SJ for his contributions. Putz (a peritus at V2) had this to say (smiofbpmorrow.org/otherssay2.html): "I remember especially two occasions when Bishop Morrow effectively intervened in the conciliar debate, [at Vatican Council II], in his own inimitable style - very bold, but with a smile or a joke. His first intervention took place during the discussion on the liturgy. After a lengthy debate on the use of the vernacular, most the bishops seemed to be satisfied with a restricted use - the restriction concerning the sacramental “forms”, which had to remain in Latin. At this psychological moment Bishop Morrow intervened and demanded a fully vernacular liturgy. Keeping the forms in Latin, he explained, would seem to attribute a kind of magical power to the Latin formula. The restriction was eventually removed. Another intervention concerned the distinction between venial and mortal sin. Bishop protested against the arbitrariness of moralists who have multiplied mortal sins by, for example, making it a grave matter for a Catholic to eat meat, however little, on a Friday - or a priest to omit even one “hour” of the prayers of breviary. “Can we seriously hold”, Bishop asked, “that such people will go to hell together with murderers and adulterers?” A day later the same matter was taken up by the Melchite Partiarch, Maximos IV. Today, even without any official declaration, the former strictness has disappeared from our textbooks."

      I know that the 1954 edition of Morrow's catechism is sold by various traditional publishers; however, in light of the author's sentiments, I would be **wary** of any edition published prior to the death of Pius XII.

      With regards to the 1963 edition, the Preface states: "If you are a non-Catholic, whether Orthodox or Protestant, this book will give you a clearer picture into what Catholics believe, and why. It will provide new insight into the discussions at the Ecumenical Council in Rome..." Given how we well know what came of Vatican II, **I cannot recommend this edition in good conscience.**

      Given Morrow's apparent disdain for Latin compared to the vernacular, and his criticism for the Church's approved moralists as being "arbitrary" when it came to distinctions of venial and mortal sin (as anyone who's looked at an approved moral theology manual would see, such distinctions are *hardly* arbitrary!), I can say with sufficient certitude that Bp. Morrow (as of Vatican II, at least) is "Suspect of Modernism".

      Sincerely,

      A Simple Man

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    2. Just to provide an example on what difference there is between editions: here is linked the original 1949 version of "My Catholic Faith": www.catholicbook.com/AgredaCD/MyCatholicFaith/MyCatholicFaith.htm (note that some of the sections appear to lost or not uploaded at this time)

      You'll note that the Acknowledgements originally list only one person: Dr. Francis J. Connell CSSR, the Dean of the School of Sacred Theology at Catholic University of America (an eminent moral theologian who wrote the well known book "Outlines of Moral Theology"). Compare that to the long list in the 1963 edition!

      Another substantial difference: in the 1949 edition, the topics go straight from "Protestant Churches" to "The Gates of Hell"; meanwhile, in the 1963 edition, inserted directly between the two is a section labelled "Ecumenism" (located on page 156), and reads like it was quoting verbatim from the decrees of Vatican II.

      Another slight change in verbiage: under the topic Schism and Heresy (number 71 in 1949 edition), it states that "After some time, separated as it is from the authority of the Pope, a schismatical church **is** led into errors in doctrine." Very clear cut.

      Contrast with the equivalent section of Schism and Heresy (number 72 in 1963 edition) on page 152: "After some time, separated as it is from the authority of the Pope, a schismatical church **is likely to be** led into errors in doctrine." In other words, this edition implicitly allows the possibility of a schismatical church existing which DOESN'T lead one into doctrinal error.

      This only solidifies my opinion that the 1963 edition of "My Catholic Faith" cannot be safely utilized as a catechism.

      Sincerely,

      A Simple Man

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    3. Simple Man,
      I totally agree with your analysis, and make it my own:
      **I cannot recommend this edition in good conscience.**

      ---Introibo

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    4. Simple Man, thank you for this thorough and very good analysis. I won't use "My Catholic Faith" for learning. In the 1963 edition, briefly reviewing the chapter on the Holy Mass, you can sense that Bishop Morrow didn't like Latin and had great hope for the "Council".

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    5. Anon@9:58 PM,

      If you're looking for an alternative catechism for learning, I would recommend Fr. Francis Spirago's "The Catechism Explained", originally published in 1899: https://archive.org/details/TheCatechismExplained1899/page/n5/mode/2up

      (A companion work of sorts is Anecdotes and Examples: Illustrating the Catholic Religion: https://archive.org/details/anecdotescatechi00spiruoft/page/n5/mode/2up)

      Sincerely,

      A Simple Man

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    6. Thanks Simple Man.
      I also have a question of how a Catholic should respond to what Hawking said: "Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing. Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing, why the universe exists, why we exist. It is not necessary to invoke God to light the blue touch paper and set the universe going."?

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    7. Anon@10:42 AM,

      The late Stephen Hawking's statement (pulled from his book titled "The Grand Design", co-authored with physicist Leonard Mlodinow) is nonsensical for at least two reasons:

      1) He presupposes that the "law of gravity" would exist in a state of nothingness. Given that the current Big Bang Cosmological model (accepted by the vast majority of physicists as the most accurate - at this point in time - empirical description of our universe, Dr. Hawking among them) can't claim to accurately describe what happened at the earliest moments of time, this is essentially an assertion without evidence. Given that neither general relativity nor quantum mechanics currently have the capability to even describe what happens beyond the event horizon of a black hole (much LESS the moment of the Big Bang), such a claim about the state of physical laws at the beginning of time is begging the question.

      2) Even more simply, a "law such as gravity" is not equivalent to "nothing", so Dr. Hawking's claim already falls flat before it can even be finished. This is notwithstanding the fact that metaphysically, philosophically, AND scientifically speaking, "spontaneous creation" is nonsensical when dealing with purely material objects, for no thing can be its own cause.

      The Novus Ordo Thomistic philosopher Ed Feser pretty much demolished "The Grand Design" in his book review over ten years ago in National Review, which can be read here: https://www.nationalreview.com/magazine/2010/11/29/mad-scientists/

      Needless to say, Feser's insight into Hawking's poor grasp of philosophical and metaphysical basics is right on the money.

      Sincerely,

      A Simple Man

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    8. @anon10:42
      You can also read my post:
      http://introiboadaltaredei2.blogspot.com/2017/07/a-theory-of-everything.html

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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