Monday, May 12, 2025

Can A True Pope Teach Heresy?

On May 8, 2025, heretic and layman Robert Prevost became the seventh leader of the Vatican II sect, taking the name "Pope" Leo XIV (if you hear grinding noise coming from the Vatican, it must be the saintly Pope Leo XIII turning over in his grave).  He will continue on the path of Bergoglio as he fully accepts Vatican II. Born in 1955, he was but seven years old when the Council began and ten when it ended. He will continue to teach heresy, and the "recognize and resist" (R&R) crowd will be there to try and exonerate him at every utterance of error and evil.

What really caught my eye was a R&R website called Catholic Candle (catholiccandle.org). It is dedicated to the fanciful ideas and false teachings of R&R theology (not to be confused with Catholic theology). The articles are all seriously flawed, but the one I wish to refute is entitled It is Possible for a Pope to Teach Heresy and Remain the Pope? Their answer is, of course, yes, but Catholic theology answers that question in the negative as I shall demonstrate. 

False Ideas About Heresy
For anyone who wants to read the whole article they may do so here: catholiccandle.org/2025/01/12/it-is-possible-for-a-pope-to-teach-heresy-and-remain-the-pope/#_ftnref8. I will only concern myself with the main points. Catholic Candle ("CC") launches into a meaningless distinction between material and formal heresy, and a false idea about infallibility. 

1. CC holds that a pope can teach heresy as a material heretic.

The bottom line of CC is: Pope Francis has taught many heresies but never has he taught them using his ex cathedra authority.  These heresies do not show that he is not the pope.(Emphasis mine). 

The idea of a heretical pope is an oxymoron the same as square circle. From CC:

Definitions – In summary:

 A person is a formal heretic if he denies the Catholic Faith in its formal aspect, i.e., if he denies any statement which he knows is revealed by the infallible teaching authority of the Church (God).  Such denial involves rejecting the Church’s (God’s) infallible authority itself.

 A person is only a material heretic, if he denies a part of the Catholic Faith in its material aspect only.  In other words, a material heretic is a person who denies a statement of the Catholic Faith without knowing that the Church (God) teaches that this statement is infallibly true.  A denial of the material of the Faith only, does not involve rejection of the Church’s (God’s) infallible authority, because the person errs (only) about what the Church (God) teaches. 

Thus, a material heretic can be a Catholic.  However, a formal heretic cannot be Catholic, because in order to be Catholic, one must submit to every single dogma of the Faith that one knows the Church teaches; and yet the formal heretic rejects the Church’s (God’s) authority by denying part of the Faith, knowing that the Church (God) teaches it...

Having seen what it means to be a material heretic and what it means to be a formal heretic, these are the questions presented:

1.    Can a pope ever become a material heretic? 
and
 2.    Can a pope ever become a formal heretic?

Let us first ask if a pope can become a material heretic and then after that, let us ask whether a pope can become a formal heretic.

1. Can the Pope become a Material Heretic?

It is a very superficial supposition to think that a pope cannot be a material heretic (that is, the supposition that a pope cannot hold, even internally, an opinion contradictory to the Catholic Faith).  Further, it is superficial to think the pope cannot then teach his heretical opinion (e.g., through the pope teaching while he is ignorant).  These (false) suppositions are superficial because they fail to take into account the basic truths of the catechism that even children know.

The Teaching of the Church
Theologian Berry nicely summarizes, "Manifest heretics and schismatics are excluded from membership in the Church. Heretics separate themselves from the unity of faith and worship; schismatics from the unity of government, and both reject the authority of the Church. So far as exclusion from the Church is concerned, it matters not whether the heresy or schism be formal or material. Those born and reared in heresy or schism may be sincere in their belief and practice yet they publicly and willingly reject the Church and attach themselves to sects opposed to her. They are not guilty of sin in the matter, but they are not members of the Church. For this reason, the Church makes no distinction between formal and material heresy when receiving converts into her fold." (See The Church of Christ [1927], pg. 226; Emphasis mine). 

CC may object that Bergoglio was not raised in a false sect, but was a material heretic because he doesn't know or realize that what he is teaching constitutes heresy. The objection fails miserably. Having shown that material heretics are not members of the Church, the alleged defense of ignorance falls flat. 

The Divine Law demands that the pope must, in the external forum (publicly), demonstrate that he knows and believes in the truths of the Catholic Faith. It is not required that he must have internal knowledge or intention to be heretical. If he denies even one dogma, he must be considered non-Catholic and a non-member of the Church, who can no longer be the head of the Church to which he does not belong. According to theologian MacKenzie, "The very commission of any act which signifies heresy...gives sufficient ground for juridical presumption of heretical depravity...Excusing circumstances have to be proven in the external forum, and the burden of proof is on the person whose action gave rise to the imputation of heresy. In the absence of such proof, all such excuses are presumed not to exist." (See, The Delict of Heresy in its Commission, Penalization, Absolution, [1932], pg. 35--Emphasis mine).  

Again, MacKenzie, "If the delinquent making this claim be a cleric, his plea for mitigation must be dismissed, either as untrue, or else as indicating ignorance which is affected, or at least crass and supine… His ecclesiastical training in the seminary, with its moral and dogmatic theology, its ecclesiastical history, not to mention its canon law, all insure that the Church’s attitude towards heresy was imparted to him." (Ibid, pg. 48; Emphasis mine).

Finally, let's use basic logic. Are we to presume that Bergoglio (or now Prevost with his Doctorate in Canon Law) doesn't understand theology as well as CC? CC is culpably ignorant of the correct theological principles and spouts falsehoods. It is shown that (1) material heretics are outside the Church, (2) heretical depravity is to be presumed by any acts which signify heresy, and (3) a plea of ignorance from a cleric regarding the faith is dismissed as untrue because of his training and education. 

2.  CC has an erroneous idea of infallibility and papal authority in teaching.
In their flawed teaching of infallibility, the R&R are like the Feeneyites insofar as they limit obedience to ex cathedra decisions and claim popes can teach heresy when not teaching infallibly. From CC:
 
 A.  To Say that the Pope Cannot Make a Heretical Statement Means that He is Always Infallible When Making Any Statement about the Faith.

If the pope were unable to make heretical statements, then everything he said about religious matters would be infallible.  In other words, Catholics would be sure that everything he said on religious matters was protected from error and must be true.  In other words, under this supposition, the pope would always be infallible when making any statement about the Catholic Faith.

B.  It is Basic Catechism that the Pope Can Indeed Teach Heresy (Error) When He Does Not Invoke His Special Ex Cathedra Authority.

But it is basic catechism (which even children know) that the pope only teaches infallibly under certain carefully-enumerated conditions. 

For example, here is the Catechism of Pope St. Pius X showing when the pope is infallible, viz., on matters of Faith and morals only under certain conditions:

57 Q. When is the Pope infallible?

A. The Pope is infallible when, as Pastor and Teacher of all Christians and in virtue of his supreme Apostolic authority, he defines a doctrine regarding faith or morals to be held by all the Church.

Notice the narrow conditions under which the pope is infallible.  All of these conditions must be fulfilled:  he must be teaching all Christians (not just a subset, such as his own diocese of Rome or a certain nation);  he must be using his full authority (not just partial authority); and he must be defining (not just commenting on or exploring) a doctrine regarding faith or morals (not Church discipline, Canon Law, or some other, lesser subject) to be held by all (not just some of) the Church.

Here, CC never mentions the secondary objects of infallibility. According to theologian Van Noort,

PROPOSITION 2: The secondary object of infallibility comprises all those matters which are so closely connected with the revealed deposit that revelation itself would be imperiled unless an absolutely certain decision could he made about them.

The charism of infallibility was bestowed upon the Church so that the latter could piously safeguard and confidently explain the deposit of Christian revelation, and thus could be in all ages the teacher of Christian truth and of the Christian way of life. But if the Church is to fulfill this purpose, it must be infallible in its judgment of doctrines and facts which, even though not revealed, are so intimately connected with revelation that any error or doubt about them would constitute a peril to the faith. Furthermore, the Church must be infallible not only when it issues a formal decree, but also when it performs some action which, for all practical purposes, is the equivalent of a doctrinal definition.

One can easily see why matters connected with revelation are called the secondary object of infallibility. Doctrinal authority and infallibility were given to the Church’s rulers that they might safeguard and confidently explain the deposit of Christian revelation. That is why the chief object of infallibility, that, namely, which by its very nature falls within the scope of infallibility, includes only the truths contained in the actual deposit of revelation. Allied matters, on the other hand, which are not in the actual deposit, but contribute to its safeguarding and security, come within the purview of infallibility not by their very nature, but rather by reason of the revealed truth to which they are annexed. As a result, infallibility embraces them only secondarily. It follows that when the Church passes judgment on matters of this sort, it is infallible only insofar as they are connected with revelation.

When theologians go on to break up the general statement of this thesis into its component parts, they teach that the following individual matters belong to the secondary object of infallibility: 1. theological conclusions; 2. dogmatic facts; 3. the general discipline of the Church; 4. approval of religious orders; 5. canonization of saints. (See Dogmatic Theology, 2:110; Emphasis mine).

The pope cannot give that which is evil or erroneous to the whole Church. According to theologian Herrmann:

"The Church is infallible in her general discipline. By the term general discipline is understood the laws and practices which belong to the external ordering of the whole Church. Such things would be those which concern either external worship, such as liturgy and rubrics, or the administration of the sacraments…. If she [the Church] were able to prescribe or command or tolerate in her discipline something against faith and morals, or something which tended to the detriment of the Church or to the harm of the faithful, she would turn away from her divine mission, which would be impossible."
(Institutiones Theologiae Dogmaticae, Vol. 1, p. 258)

Pope Gregory XVI, Mirari Vos, Para. #9:

"[T]he discipline sanctioned by the Church must never be rejected or be branded as contrary to certain principles of natural law. It must never be called crippled, or imperfect or subject to civil authority. In this discipline the administration of sacred rites, standards of morality, and the reckoning of the rights of the Church and her ministers are embraced."

Pope Pius XII, Mystici Corporis, Para. #66

"Certainly the loving Mother [the Church] is spotless in the Sacraments, by which she gives birth to and nourishes her children; in the faith which she has always preserved inviolate; in her sacred laws imposed on all; in the evangelical counsels which she recommends; in those heavenly gifts and extraordinary graces through which, with inexhaustible fecundity, she generates hosts of martyrs, virgins and confessors."

The pope's infallibility extends to universal disciplinary laws. The pope can give "opinionative" decisions, which by their very nature could be modified or abrogated. In that sense he could be "wrong," but not in promulgating universal disciplinary laws, or deciding upon doctrinal issues. CC demonstrates a misunderstanding of the 1870 Vatican Council's teaching on the papacy.

CC makes absurd claims, to wit: Contrary to fact, if it were true that a pope could never teach heresy, this would mean that the pope cannot err if he says something about the Faith or morals even at the dinner table or in a sermon or in private correspondence. False. The pope cannot give error or evil to the Church. It does not mean he cannot err as a private theologian "at the dinner table." 

Here's what the popes themselves have taught:

Pope Leo XIII:
In defining the limits of the obedience owed to the pastors of souls, but most of all to the authority of the Roman Pontiff, it must not be supposed that it is only to be yielded in relation to dogmas of which the obstinate denial cannot be disjoined from the crime of heresy. Nay, further, it is not enough sincerely and firmly to assent to doctrines which, though not defined by any solemn pronouncement of the Church, are by her proposed to belief, as divinely revealed, in her common and universal teaching, and which the [1870] Vatican Council declared are to be believed “with Catholic and divine faith.” But this likewise must be reckoned amongst the duties of Christians, that they allow themselves to be ruled and directed by the authority and leadership of bishops, and, above all, of the Apostolic See.
(See Sapientiae Christianae, para. #24; Emphasis mine). 

Pope Pius IX:
Nor can we pass over in silence the audacity of those who, not enduring sound doctrine, contend that “without sin and without any sacrifice of the Catholic profession assent and obedience may be refused to those judgments and decrees of the Apostolic See, whose object is declared to concern the Church’s general good and her rights and discipline, so only it does not touch the dogmata of faith and morals.” But no one can be found not clearly and distinctly to see and understand how grievously this is opposed to the Catholic dogma of the full power given from God by Christ our Lord Himself to the Roman Pontiff of feeding, ruling and guiding the Universal Church.
(See Quanta Cura, para. #5; Emphasis mine).

Pope Pius XI:
Wherefore, let the faithful also be on their guard against the overrated independence of private judgment and that false autonomy of human reason. For it is quite foreign to everyone bearing the name of a Christian to trust his own mental powers with such pride as to agree only with those things which he can examine from their inner nature, and to imagine that the Church, sent by God to teach and guide all nations, is not conversant with present affairs and circumstances; or even that they must obey only in those matters which she has decreed by solemn definition as though her other decisions might be presumed to be false or putting forward insufficient motive for truth and honesty. Quite to the contrary, a characteristic of all true followers of Christ, lettered or unlettered, is to suffer themselves to be guided and led in all things that touch upon faith or morals by the Holy Church of God through its Supreme Pastor the Roman Pontiff, who is himself guided by Jesus Christ Our Lord.
(See Casti Connubii, para. #104; Emphasis mine). 

In the face of all of the above, which R&R and Feeneyites deny, they will claim that in non-infallible teaching, a pope could introduce a heresy as an "innocent mistake." This is impossible because of the dogma of Indefectibility, which states that the Catholic Church must endure as an institution until the end of time, and must remain essentially the same until the end of time. This means that She must have perfect continuity of dogma and moral teaching, with no contradictions, perfect continuity of worship, and perfect continuity of all of its essential disciplines. It is based on the very words of Our Lord Jesus Christ: “Behold I am with you all days, even to the consummation of the world.” (St. Matthew 28:20).

Christ also said to the Apostles: “He that heareth you, heareth Me; and he that despiseth you, despiseth Me; and he that despiseth Me, despiseth Him that sent Me.” (St. Luke 10:16). This means that every Catholic can, and must, listen to the Church teaching as the teaching of Christ Himself. What if they are not teaching infallibly? Such teachings are nevertheless protected by the Holy Ghost from teaching any pernicious doctrine. This means the Church cannot teach anything which is contrary to Catholic doctrine or morals, and which would be a sin to embrace. The Church also cannot impose evil disciplines, and thereby prescribe something evil to the faithful, making it sinful to observe; nor can the Church give anything which would constitute an incentive to impiety. 

This completely rules out any possibility of the pope teaching heresy, for the protection of the Holy Ghost precludes it. Theologian Fenton teaches:

To the Holy Father’s responsibility of caring for the sheep of Christ’s fold, there corresponds, on the part of the Church’s membership, the basic obligation of following his directions, in doctrinal as well as disciplinary matters. In this field, God has given the Holy Father a kind of infallibility distinct from the charism of doctrinal infallibility in the strict sense. He has so constructed and ordered the Church that those who follow the directives given to the entire kingdom of God on earth will never be brought into the position of ruining themselves spiritually through this obedience. Our Lord dwells within His Church in such a way that those who obey disciplinary and doctrinal directives of this society can never find themselves displeasing God through their adherence to the teachings and the commands given to the universal Church militant. Hence there can be no valid reason to discountenance even the non-infallible teaching authority of Christ’s vicar on earth.

(See "The American Ecclesiastical Review;" [August 1949], “The Doctrinal Authority of Papal Encyclicals, Part I”, pgs. 144-145). 

Hence, the protection of the Holy Ghost precludes the pope from teaching heresy to the Church. Only in his capacity as a private theologian could he teach heresy.

Did the Church Have Popes Who Were "Material Heretics"?
CC claims their thesis is true using two alleged "historical examples:"

We see that various popes have been material heretics.  Let us look at two examples that illustrate this: 

Pope John XXII (reigned 1316-1334) taught heresy insistently both before and during his papal reign.  He was a material heretic and refused to be corrected until shortly before his death.[14]

Pope Nicholas I wrote a letter to the Bulgarians, in which he spoke as if baptism were valid when administered simply in our Lord’s Name, without mention of the Three Persons of the Blessed Trinity.  But he was not teaching ex cathedra.  The question asked of Pope Nicholas was actually a different one: viz., concerning the minister of baptism, viz., whether a Jew or Pagan could validly baptize.  He correctly answered in the affirmative.  But Pope Nicholas then answered “that the baptism was valid, whether administered in the name of the three Persons or in the name of Christ only.”  This is heresy!  Cardinal Newman cites this example quoting St. Robert Bellarmine in De Rom. Pont., iv. 12. (Emphasis mine).

Fact: Neither Pope John XXII nor Pope Nicholas I were guilty of any heresy. Pope John XXII  preached a series of sermons in Avignon, France in which he taught that the souls of the blessed departed do not see God (Beatific Vision) until after the Last Judgement. It was open to debate among the theologians and had not yet been a made a dogma, so its denial is not heresy. Finally, he expressed his opinion as a "private theologian who expressed an opinion, hanc opinionem, and who, while seeking to prove it, recognized that it was open to debate." (Le Bachlet, "Benoit XII," in Dictionnaire de Théologie Catholique, 2:662.). Therefore, he lacked the pertinacity required for loss of office as he declared himself expressing an opinion, and was willing to submit his judgement to the Church.

What about Pope Nicholas I? Ironically, Doctor of the Church St. Robert Bellarmine proves Pope Nicholas not guilty of heresy. In Papal Error? A Defense of Popes said to have Erred in Faith, the great Bellarmine sets out to defeat the calumnies of the enemies of the Church who leveled charges of heresy at several popes. The same calumnies are now repeated by CC. In defense of Pope Nicholas, the Doctor of the Church writes:

The Twenty-Sixth [pope falsely accused of heresy] is Nicholas I, whom several condemn, because he taught that baptism conferred in the name of Christ, without expression of the three persons, was valid.  That is contrary not only to the Evangelical institution, but even to the decrees of other Popes, namely, of Pelagius and Zachary, who condemned the baptism of those who are only baptized in the name of Christ and not expressly in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit; as is clear in the same place.  Nor can the response be given that, in the time of Nicholas, it was still not defined whether baptism was invalid if conferred in the name of Christ, for that was defined in the English Council, confirmed by Pope Zachary who preceded Nicholas. 

I respond: Nicholas was not defining a question on faith when he spoke, rather, he only expressed his opinion in passing as a particular doctor. For, what he intended to teach in that canon was not on the form of baptism, but only on the minister concerning which he had been asked. Therefore, after he responded and defined that baptism was valid, even if given by a Jew or a pagan, which the question was especially about, he added in passing that baptism is valid whether it is given in the name of the three persons or in the name of Christ alone. 

In this he followed the opinion of Ambrose as he says himself. Still, in my judgment, this opinion is false, but not heretical. There is no certain definition of the Church that is discovered on this affair, and various opinions are discovered among the Fathers. Now those canons of Pelagius and Zachary also do not obstruct the case. In the first place, Pelagius did not define anything, but only as a teacher in his epistle to Gaudentius explains his opinion. Moreover, the canon of Zachary is exceedingly suspect. In the first place, Gratian cites the epistle of Zachary to Boniface, when he places this canon, but such an opinion is not discovered in the epistles of Zachary to Boniface, which are extant in the volumes of Councils. 

Next, Bede makes no mention of this English council in his history, where he always makes mention of other English Councils. Nay more, Bede himself follows the contrary opinion, as he approves the opinion of Ambrose on baptism in the name of Christ. Still, one could not ignore a decree of an English Council, if it were real, which Zachary mentions, since he lived in the same time and still outlived Zachary. It does not seem at all believable that he would wish to contradict a Council celebrated in his own country and confirmed by the Apostolic See. Yet, if we admit the authority of this Council and Zachary, we can respond twofold. 

Firstly, with St. Peter Lombard: In that Council it was only defined that baptism was not valid without the invocation of the three persons. Still, it was not defined whether the three persons ought to be named explicitly, and hence this cannon is not opposed to the opinion of Ambrose and of Nicholas, who taught that it sufficed to implicitly name the three persons in the one name of Christ. St. Bernard also understood that canon of the Council in this manner as well as Hugh of St. Victor and all other teachers of that age who taught, not withstanding the canon of the English Council, that baptism in the name of Christ was valid.

It can be said secondly, that the English Council was not truly and properly approved by the Apostolic See, and therefore does not make the matter de fide. Zachary certainly praised the English Council, and cited its decrees for his proposition; still, he did not properly approve it as Pope and with the intention of confirming the acts of the Council. It is one thing for the Pope to confirm the decrees of Councils in earnest, and another to commend something that other [Councils] proposed.

 Bellarmine thus shows that (1) Pope Nicholas was not teaching the Church, but expressing an opinion as a private doctor. However, wouldn't that be professing heresy and cause loss of office? NO, because (2) it was not yet defined if the Three Persons of the Most Blessed Trinity need be named explicitly, or if it sufficed to implicitly name the Three Persons in the one Name of Christ. Pope Nicholas was therefore not a heretic, just as Pope John XXII was not a heretic.  

Heresy and Authority
Having shown CC to be clueless on Church teaching regarding heresy, infallibility, and the alleged "historical examples" of popes teaching heresy, the final section of the article must be addressed. It is alleged that the pope can never be a formal heretic and teach heresy ex cathedra. While it is true that no pope can teach heresy ex cathedra, no sedevacantist claims that such could ever happen or is necessary for a pope to lose his authority. The Church makes no distinction between formal and material heresy and loss of Church membership. With loss of Church membership comes loss of authority. In the case of a heretic prior to election, no such heretic could ever attain the papacy as in the case of Prevost. Finally, the heresy must be manifest and done in his capacity as a private theologian.

The great saint, theologian, and Doctor of the Church Robert Bellarmine teaches, "A pope who is a manifest heretic automatically ceases to be pope and head of the Church, just as he ceases to be a Christian and a member of the Church. Wherefore, he can be judged and punished by the Church [precisely because he is no longer the pope!---IntroiboAll the early Fathers are unanimous in teaching that manifest heretics immediately lose all jurisdiction. St. Cyprian, in particular, laid great stress on this point." (See De Romano Pontifice, II:30)

 According to Doctor of the Church St. Alphonsus Liguori, "If ever a pope, as a private person, should fall into heresy, he would at once fall from the pontificate." (See Verita della Fede, Pt. III, Ch. VIII, 9-10).

Theologian Iragui: "...theologians commonly concede that the Roman Pontiff, if he should fall into manifest heresy, would no longer be a member of the Church, and therefore could neither be called its visible head."
(See Manuale Theologiae Dogmaticae. Madrid: Ediciones Studium [1959], pg. 371). 

Canonist Badii: "A publicly heretical pope would no longer be a member of the Church; for this reason, he could no longer be its head."( See Institutiones Iuris Canonici. Florence: Fiorentina [1921], pgs. 160, 165). 

Theologian Prummer: "Through notorious and openly divulged heresy, the Roman Pontiff, should he fall into heresy, by that very fact [ipso facto] is deemed to be deprived of the power of jurisdiction even before any declaratory judgement by the Church....A pope who falls into public heresy would cease ipso facto to be a member of the Church; therefore, he would also cease to be head of the Church."(See Ius Canonicum. Rome: Gregorian [1943],  2:453). 

1917 Code of Canon Law: Canon 188, section 4: "There are certain causes which effect the tacit (silent) resignation of an office, which resignation is accepted in advance by operation of the law, and hence is effective without any declaration. These causes are… (4) publicly defects from the Catholic faith.” 
N.B. Theologian McDevitt writes:
"The defection of faith must be public. It is to be noted immediately that adherence to or inscription in a non-Catholic sect is not required to constitute the publicity that the canon demands." (See The Renunciation of an Ecclesiastical Office, [1946], pg. 139).

The great canonist Ayrinhac taught in his General Legislation in the New Code of Canon Law,:
Loss of Ecclesiastical Offices. Canons 185-191 “...applies to all offices, the lowest and the highest, not excepting the Supreme Pontificate.” (p. 346). 

How is heresy made manifest? According to theologian MacKenzie, "Words are the ordinary, but not the only means of communication. Complete externalization of thought may exist in signs, acts, or omissions." (Delict, pg.35) Let's break it down:

(a) Words. A dogma may be denied by a contradictory or contrary statement. For example, it is a dogma that "The Roman Catholic Church is the One True Church, outside of which there is no salvation." The contradictory statement negates it--"The Roman Catholic Church is NOT the One True Church, outside of which there is no salvation." A contrary statement is not a direct negation, but it goes against the dogma. Hence, Vatican II was heretical when it stated in Unitatis Redintegratio, para.#3 that Christ uses non-Catholic sects as a "means of salvation." It is heretical because if you can obtain salvation by being a Lutheran, then there is salvation outside the Roman Catholic Church.

(b) Acts. Think of "Saint" John Paul II kissing the Koran which denies the Trinity and Divinity of Christ. Remember Bergoglio ("Pope" Francis) celebrating Hanukkah with the Jews in 2012 when still a "cardinal."

(c) Omissions. Think of Bergoglio hiding his crucifix from the Jews and failing to try and convert them.

Heretics are incapable of keeping or attaining to papal office. In the case of one validly elected pope, should he fall into heresy as a private theologian, he falls from office. In the case of a manifest heretic prior to "election," he fails to attain the office. According to theologian Baldii, "Barred as incapable of being validly elected [pope] are the following: women, children who have not reached the age of reason, those suffering from habitual insanity, the unbaptized, heretics and schismatics..." (See Institutiones Iuris Canonici [1921]; Emphasis mine).

Ergo, Robert Prevost (aka "Pope" Leo XIV) could not attain the papacy as he publicly professes the heresies of Vatican II and that of his predecessor Conciliar "popes." 

Conclusion
The first American false pope will begin to pile more heresy on top of Bergoglio's heap of errors and evils. Don't be fooled by the false R&R theology that seeks to keep people believing that a pope can teach heresy. If you want to make it through the Great Apostasy, better to put out the "R&R candle" and curse the darkness of the Vatican II sect.    

161 comments:

  1. Dear Introibo,
    I first learned about a heretic pope through Paul IV's bull Cum Ex Apostolatus Officio. Unfortunately the source was from the Dimond bros. Do you recommend the biblical cartoon Superbook for Trad Catholic children? Or do you prefer Pre-Vatican II Catholic children's books? Superbook was made by the Protestant Christian Broadcasting Network.

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    1. Ryan,
      Definitely pre-V2 children's books. BEWARE: Fred and Bobby will give 100 truths if they can get you to accept the Feeneyite heretical lies.

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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    2. Dear Introibo,
      Also you may want to check my blog post on how Disney funded a Catholic orphanage (Pre-Vatican II) in Italy. It is so sad the company that most Catholics cherished betrayed them and supported immorality like LGBT and abortion. I grew up with Alice and Snow White when I was 4 in 2010, one month before you started your blog. tradmasscebu.blogspot.com/2025/05/when-disney-was-catholic.html

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    3. Dear Introibo,
      Also you may want to check my blog post on how Disney funded a Catholic orphanage (Pre-Vatican II) in Italy. It is so sad the company that most Catholics cherished betrayed them and supported immorality like LGBT and abortion. I grew up with Alice and Snow White when I was 4 in 2010, one month before you started your blog. tradmasscebu.blogspot.com/2025/05/when-disney-was-catholic.html

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  2. This is so excellent, bravo Introibo!

    I also agree with past commenters that fromrome editor is unstable but he is posting some hilarious posts re pope Bob. The picture alone here made me laugh out loud!
    https://www.fromrome.info/2025/05/12/bishop-prevost-locked-down-diocese-confession-by-cellphone/

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    1. @anon5:17
      "Confession by phone"---what a sacrilegious and blasphemous act by Prevost.

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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  3. This is all very clear, and you don't need to be a theologian to understand that a Pope cannot teach heresy and remain Pope, since heretics (as modernists are) are not members of the Church. But the "recognize and resist" people cling desperately to this idea of a "heretical Pope" to avoid concluding that the Apostolic See has been vacant since 1958. They will do with Prevost what they did with Bergoglio and the other fake V2 popes, i.e. they will recognize him as "pope" but they will resist him if he teaches something they deem contrary to Tradition. You have to ask them who established people to determine whether the Pope teaches the true faith and resist him if he doesn't. I haven't read that in the Gospels. Like Novus Ordo "Catholics," they are victims of the great deception of the last days foretold by St. Paul in 2 Thessalonians.

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      Victims of deception---victims of Vatican II. May God open their eyes!

      God Bless,

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  4. To use a quote you cited above by Herman:

    The Church is infallible in her general discipline. By the term general discipline is understood the laws and practices which belong to the external ordering of the whole Church. Such things would be those which concern either external worship, such as liturgy and rubrics, or the administration of the sacraments…. If she [the Church] were able to prescribe or command or tolerate in her discipline something against faith and morals, or something which tended to the detriment of the Church or to the harm of the faithful, she would turn away from her divine mission, which would be impossible."
    (Institutiones Theologiae Dogmaticae, Vol. 1, p. 258)

    Does this apply to The Holy Week changes under Pope Pius XII? So to elaborate on the question. If these Holy Week changes carry the secondary object of infallibility, and he was the last true Pope, one would have to conclude that groups like the RCI, SSPV, etc. are denying this infallible change to The Holy Week liturgy. The CMRI priest Fr. Dominic Radecki has a video on this topic and he supports The Holy Week changes. They are changes which came from a legitimate Pope, but how can certain groups and priests say that they don’t have to follow them because hindsight is 20/20, or that we shouldn’t walk half way across the bridge to modernism if we don’t intend to cross to the other side. They don’t agree with the Holy Week changes because they say it led to the Novus Ordo abomination. But if it’s infallible, how can it be disobeyed? I don’t believe Popes can teach or promulgate heresy in their fallible capacity or their infallible capacity but there have been Popes who taught errors or made statements that were weak or incorrect in their fallible capacities. This doesn’t mean they are manifest heretics. It means they made statements that didn’t go against dogmatic pronouncements calling out a specific heresy. So for instance if a Pope denied the Immaculate Conception after 1854. He would be a manifest heretic. But if a Pope put forth the idea of theistic evolution, as I believe Pope Pius XII did, he wouldn’t be a manifest heretic since no dogmatic pronouncement condemns it by name outright. But theistic evolution contradicts Holy Scripture and Church Tradition. So this could be error in a fallible capacity. I think Pope Pius XII said theistic evolution could be taught. There are at least three or four historical examples besides the one I just gave where a Pope could be wrong in his fallible capacity without being a manifest heretic. But I’ll leave it there for now.

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    1. @anon6:23

      1. You write "Does this apply to The Holy Week changes under Pope Pius XII?"

      Ans. Yes.

      2. You write: "If these Holy Week changes carry the secondary object of infallibility, and he was the last true Pope, one would have to conclude that groups like the RCI, SSPV, etc. are denying this infallible change to The Holy Week liturgy."

      Ans. Not if you read their reasoning. All of them accept that the Pian Holy Week contains nothing heretical or evil. They argue that the law regarding its implementation ceases to bind, so they need not use it. Upon examination, this objection fails--but they admit that the Pain Rite is wholly Catholic, yet it "became noxious over time."

      3. You write, "But if a Pope put forth the idea of theistic evolution, as I believe Pope Pius XII did, he wouldn’t be a manifest heretic since no dogmatic pronouncement condemns it by name outright."

      Ans. It is open to theological debate. He permitted non-Darwinian evolution to be taught. Not at all heretical.

      4. You write, "But theistic evolution contradicts Holy Scripture and Church Tradition."

      Ans. No, it doesn't. Just as the Big Bang cosmology approved by Pope Pius XII does not contradict Genesis 1.
      If it openly conflicted with the Bible or Sacred Tradition, he would be guilty of heresy.

      Yes, a pope can be wrong when giving an "opinionative response." So, Pope Pius XII could be wrong about non-Darwinian evolution, but not because it is incompatible with the Bible or Sacred Tradition.

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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    2. So just to be clear the Holy Week Changes are infallible and Pope Pius XII was the last true Pope, but since many years have passed since these changes, groups like the RCI can just decide it no longer binds? You acknowledge this fails but then how can these groups be legitimate or not in serious error if they reject a liturgy which carries secondary object of infallibility? This is your argument according to the secondary object of infallibility. You are necessarily saying it binds.

      Also theistic evolution says that animals were living and dying millions of years before Adam’s fall but it wasn’t until Adam’s sin that death entered into the world.

      The earth is clearly not billions of years old. There is both theological and scientific evidence for that. The Big Bang theory is just as illogical as Darwinian evolution. The atheistic evolutionists, believe we evolved from mushrooms and squirrels, but started off as a a cell living in a pool of mud somewhere. How dark and unintelligent is this nonsense? The Big Bang Theory says something comes from nothing. Theistic evolution is absurd as well. I think there is enough scriptural proof to show that theistic evolution contradicts it. It would not be manifest heresy though to say what Pius XII said about theistic evolution since it was never dogmatically condemned by name.

      One last point, Pope Innocent III taught that circumcision, as part of The Mosaic Law remitted Original Sin. It did not. But this was stated in his fallible capacity.

      Pope John IV tried to defend the heretical teaching of Pope Honorius, which were condemned by the III Council of Constantinople.

      Vatican I found that approximately 40 Popes held wrong theological views.

      Pope John XXII was in error when he believed that the just of the Old Testament don’t receive the Beatific Vision until after the General Judgment. This view was held in his fallible capacity. There are at least half a dozen more examples. The Pope is infallible only in specific ways.

      Pope Pius IX, Vatican Council I, 1870, Session 4, Chap. 4:

      “…the Roman Pontiff, when he speaks ex cathedra, that is, when carrying out the duty of the pastor and teacher of all Christians in accord with his supreme apostolic authority he explains a doctrine of faith or morals to be held by the universal Church... operates with that infallibility with which the divine Redeemer wished that His Church be instructed in defining doctrine on faith and morals; and so such definitions of the Roman Pontiff from himself, but not from the consensus of the Church, are unalterable.”



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    3. Regarding the 1955 liturgical changes, both RCI and SSPV permit their faithful to end the Lenten fast at 12:00 PM on Holy Saturday. However, Pope Pius XII moved this to midnight, aligning the conclusion of the fast with the Easter Vigil.

      This raises a serious concern: how can these groups justify allowing practices that deviate from this reform, potentially leading the faithful into grave sin? I believe many, including myself in the past, have broken the fast early under this guidance—only later realizing the importance of adhering to the midnight conclusion.

      It’s difficult to understand how these organizations claim the authority to override this obligation and, in effect, relieve the consciences of their members.

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    4. @anon10:55

      1. You write: "This is your argument according to the secondary object of infallibility. You are necessarily saying it binds."

      Ans. You don't understand the distinction. An infallible dogmatic DEFINITION such as the Assumption must be held in the same sense for all time. When the Pope approves a liturgical rite, it infallibly means that it is 100% Catholic with no heresy, no evil practices, no incentives to impiety. BOTH the Pian and pre-Pian Holy Week Rites are EQUALLY INFALLIBLE in that sense. Is it possible for one to cease to bind so you must revert to the former? Possible, yes. However, given the facts, the law did NOT cease to bind.

      2. You write, "Also theistic evolution says that animals were living and dying millions of years before Adam’s fall but it wasn’t until Adam’s sin that death entered into the world."

      Ans. Death as it applies to HUMANS conceded; as it applies to plants and animals DENIED. There are many theologians that held death for plants and animals took place prior to the Fall.

      3. You write: "The earth is clearly not billions of years old. There is both theological and scientific evidence for that. The Big Bang theory is just as illogical as Darwinian evolution. "

      Ans. There's PLENTY of scientific proof for a billions of years old universe. It is (and has been) the scientific consensus for almost 100 years. As a former science teacher, I can tell you the evidence is great.

      Theologically, it is also tenable as the Pontifical Biblical Commission under Pope St. Pius X allows the "days" of Genesis to be interpreted as a very long time period.

      The Big Bang Theory is by no means like Darwinian evolution.

      4. You write, "The Big Bang Theory says something comes from nothing."

      Ans. Actually, it says nothing about what came before and points to God. That's why Communist countries refused to let it be taught in their schools! If everything came into existence 13.8 billion years ago, and something cannot come from nothing, something must have CREATED the universe! Your contention that it "contradicts Scripture" or sacred Tradition is without merit. Something need not be formally condemned to be heretical. If something implies a denial of a dogma such is heretical. Saying, "Jesus was an angel" although not directly condemned necessitates a denial of both His human and Divine Natures, ergo, it is heretical. Nothing about the Big Bang or non-Darwinian evolution is heretical.

      5. You attack the holy pontiffs just as the enemies of the Church. I wouldn't put myself in such company.

      * Circumcision may indeed remit Original Sin. Such was taught by the great Aquinas. The Pope was (literally) Innocent!

      *Pope John IV didn't defend heresy. He tried to explain an orthodox interpretation of a badly worded letter.

      *John XXII was wrong as a private theologian speaking as such, and you said as much. The point about the Beatific Vision was also OPEN FOR DEBATE--it could not be heresy at the time.

      There was a lot of nonsense circulating at Vatican Council of 1870. The Gallicans wanted to stop the definition of infallibility. There were no "heresies" of any pope that was produced and approved at the Vatican Council of 1870.

      God Bless,

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    5. 1). You are missing the point on the Pope Pius XII Holy Week. As sedevacantists we know that Pope Pius XII was the last true Pope. I agree that the liturgical change he made was in line with being Catholic. With that being said, how can groups like The RCI choose to use the pre-1955 Holy Week liturgy without being disobedient. Could a true Pope change those liturgical rubrics for Holy Week? Yes. But there hasn’t been a True Pope since 1958. For groups like the The RCI to pick and choose the liturgy they want to use simply because they assume it wouldn’t have remained the liturgy if we had a true Pope is disobedience especially since Pope Pius XII FORBADE the use of the former liturgy and obligated the new Holy Week liturgy to be used by the clergy. So who gets to decide to go back to the pre-1955 liturgy? Bishop Sanborn? On what grounds? I do understand some of the arguments that Fr. Cekada and Bishop Sanborn have made as being compelling, but they can’t just arbitrarily decide what liturgies they want to use.

      2). I’ll have to research that point further.

      3). Do you understand the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics. You want people to believe that all the matter and energy was condensed into an atom with a circumference of 10 to the minus 45th power, a singularity which defies the laws of nature and then it exploded and this chaos arranged itself into stars, galaxies, the planets and human life? Absurd. Order does not come from chaos. “In the beginning God created Heaven and Earth” we don’t read in the beginning there was a great explosion or Big Bang. The Big Bang was an atheistic materialist pseudo scientific theory used to attack God and Creation. Carbon 14 dating is highly inaccurate and the billions of year old universe has been debunked many times over by physicists, geologists, and other scientists who believe in Creation. Stephen C. Meyer and others have written extensively on these topics. Also, staunch atheists, like Lawrence Krauss, also a theoretical physicist, believe that something comes from nothing. He wrote a book “A Universe from Nothing”. The evidence which refutes The Big Bang Theory is overwhelming.

      Last point,

      Pope Innocent III was in error in his fallible capacity.

      Council of Trent defined as a dogma - Session 6 Chap. 1 on Justification, that “not even the Jews by the very letter of the law of Moses were able to be liberated or to rise” from original sin.

      What was in The Mosaic Law? CIRCUMCISION

      Pope Paul III, Council of Trent, Session 6, Chap. 1 on Justification: “… whereas all men had lost their innocence in the prevarication of Adam, ‘having become unclean’, and (as the Apostle says), ‘by nature children of wrath… but not even the Jews by the very letter of the law of Moses were able to be liberated or to rise therefrom…”

      Blessed Virgin Mary of course was exempt.

      The observance of The Mosaic Law, which includes, circumcision could not free then from Original sin. Pope Innocent III was innocent indeed but he did make an error in his fallible capacity. You don’t understand Vatican I or Papal Infallibility.

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    6. John XXII was certainly not a heretic but he made a substantial error on The Beatific Vision. Popes can make errors in their fallible capacity. It is your contention they can’t teach or utter erroneous words. You have to make proper distinctions between an error in The Pope’s fallible capacity and the conditions which make a Pope a manifest heretic.

      Pope John IV defended Honorius from any charge of heresy.

      Also, Stephen Hawking and Lawrence Krauss explicitly say that the Universe can come from nothing. Hawking uses gravity to explain this absurdity. Krauss wrote a whole book on it. These atheist physicists also get into ideas of the multiverse, Star Trek type civilizations, and other diabolical theories. These are the main figures in the Cosmology sphere that have shaped the pseudo scientific narrative on the Big Bang. You might point to Georges Lemaitre, but people know Hawking, Krauss, Stenger and the other atheists. These are the people who have shaped your views on The Big Bang. But you don’t even know that they claim that something can come from nothing. With friends like these who needs enemies?

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    7. @anon5:23

      1. No, I am not missing the point. YOU wrote: "This is your argument according to the secondary object of infallibility. You are necessarily saying it binds."

      Ans. Infallibility has NOTHING to do with this so I don't know why you even mentioned it. The solitary dispositive question is: "Can a law promulgated by a Pontiff cease to bind due to extrinsic causes?" Yes, it can and the SSPV and others offer arguments that it ceases to bind. Those arguments fail. However, they believe it doesn't bind and there is no pope to settle it. See my post on the topic: https://introiboadaltaredei2.blogspot.com/2021/03/a-bugnini-free-holy-week.html

      2. Unchallenged.

      3. Yes, I understand it better than most with a Masters Degree in science education and having worked as a science teacher. You misunderstand the entire theory. Which was developed by a brilliant and orthodox Catholic priest Fr. Georges Lemaitre. It was called the Big Bang to mock the fact it came from a priest and challenged the Steady State theory. Pope Pius XII praised Father's work. There is so much confirming evidence, almost all scientists accept the Big Bang Theory. To give but one example, one of the most compelling pieces of evidence for the Big Bang Theory is the cosmic microwave background (CMB) radiation. Discovered in 1965, the CMB is the afterglow of the Big Bang, providing a snapshot of the infant universe when it was just 380,000 years old. The uniformity and slight variations in the CMB's temperature support the idea of a hot, dense origin of the universe.

      Stephen meyer believes in the Big Bang: See https://evolutionnews.org/2022/09/stephen-meyer-no-the-big-bang-hasnt-been-disproven

      As to Krauss, I read "A Universe From Nothing: Why There Is Something Rather than Nothing." He doesn't mean "nothing" but attempts to redefine it. Krauss qualifies his definition of nothingness, though, to mean “empty space,” and then he fills that “empty space” with matter and antimatter ruled by the laws of quantum physics. The word “nothing” in English isn't the name of something. It's simply a term of universal negation. It means not anything. So when you say “I had nothing to eat for lunch” you mean “I did not have anything for lunch.” You don't mean that you did eat something and it was nothing. Even atheists have called out Kraus on his redefinition.

      There is NO disconfirming evidence of the Big Bang. Pope St. Pius X allowed an interpretation of Genesis being very long periods of time. I guess he didn't understand Genesis as well as you do!

      Last Point:
      I'm explaining why a Pope cannot teach heresy. None of your examples show this so why are you even writing this drivel? Innocent III was not guilty of heresy as he predated Trent and I referenced Aquinas--also prior to Trent. IT WAS OPEN TO DEBATE. Hence, no heresy.

      It is YOU who are culpably ignorant of both science and theology.

      ---Introibo

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      My views on the Big Bang come from the evidence found by Father as explained above. The atheists redefine “nothing” to mean “something” again as explained above, and you are woefully ignorant as to the evidence.

      If you knew how to read you see that I indeed wrote about the inability of the pope to teach HERESY. It’s in the title.

      The real enemy of the faith is ignorance and you’ve got that in spades.

      —-Introibo

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    9. You are a trained science teacher. Yea okay. Just like Freud was a psychologist and Dr. Fauci is a doctor. No one is impressed with your pseudo-scientific ideas. Maybe Jimmy Akin, but that’s about it. Hawking posited the idea that something comes from nothing, so did Krauss. You want to try and explain it away but you can’t. I don’t care what the consensus of scientists is since science is fallible, subject to human error, and is subject to limited human reasoning and the observable universe. The Big Bang Theory is a scam and one priest who came up with the theory in 1927 when modernism was rampant doesn’t prove anything. Pope Pius XII was a weak Pope, he was surrounded by modernists, made errors in his fallible capacity and believed in some outlandish ideas when it came to science. It doesn’t matter if he was on board with the theory. He also believed the earth was 4 billion years old which has been disproven by actual scientists studying the Grand Canyon and other geological formations showing a mountain of evidence for a young earth.

      Pope Pius XII FORBADE the pre-1955 Holy Week after the liturgical reforms were in place. The clergy were obligated to follow the new liturgical rubrics. The RCI can’t go around that without being disobedient. Period.

      Here are a few problems for your junk science theory:

      A rotating cloud of dust formed the sun and labels. Really? Is this true? The particles of dust could not stick together because the gravitational force would not be great enough for these size particles to form planets.

      Of the 31 moons in the solar system 20 orbit in the same direction, 11 orbit in the opposite direction. This doesn’t happen by chance or The Big Bang.

      Comets are relatively small and don’t last as long as we have been told. They lose their mass as they pass by the Sun. These comets couldn’t last for more than 10,000 years or so. This shows a young solar system.

      Dark matter? There needs to be much more matter and energy to have gravitational forces to form these galaxies. 95 percent of matter the pseudo physicists can’t find. They don’t know where 95 percent of the universe is. Don’t tell me you believe in multiverses and Star Trek civilizations too. Just because 8th graders you threatened with bad grades bought your bunkum doesn’t mean we have to.

      Over and out!

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    10. You cited Aquinas on The Pope Innocent III question? I cited The Council of Trent! Guess which one is infallible. Hint: It’s not Aquinas.

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    11. Popes can’t teach heresy but they can be in error in their fallible capacity.

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    12. “they limit obedience to ex cathedra decisions and claim popes can teach heresy when not teaching infallibly” This is your straw man. Your blog is filled with them. Popes can’t each heresy but they can be in error in their fallible capacity. Pope Innocent III on circumcision and John XXII on Beatific Vision.

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    13. The Big Bang Theory goes against Scripture and Tradition. The fact that you say it doesn’t or that this claim has no merit means nothing. Genesis is to be taken literally. It’s not an allegory where fallible scientists can come in many years later and interpret the meaning with naturalistic explanations. The Bible tells us Heaven and earth and everything that created was made by God in six days. This is why we rest on Sunday. There is no mention of billions of years, the earth being a fiery molten rock, a big bang, etc. It’s just preposterous.

      Here are some problems with the falsifiable and scientistic theory known as the Big Bang. When I say scientistic I’m referring to junk science of people like Darwin, Hawking, Modern Pyschology, etc.

      1). Missing monopoles: Particle physicists assert that the high temperature levels which would have been produced by the so called big bang would have gave rise to magnetic monopoles. They are stable, yet none exist today. The universe was never that hot.

      2). Your main argument was for CMB. This explanation is flawed. Read about the horizon problem and Guth’s theory of cosmic inflation that tries to explain thermal equilibrium. The problem is that cosmic inflation has never been proven and became just another far stretch theory we see in theoretical physics. Also, read about the Axis of Evil and the cold spot as it relates to CMB. It can’t be explained, and the theoretical physicist crowd tries to explain it by taking about other universes. There is also a problem with the amount of matter and antimatter in the universe. There is too little antimatter there should be equal amounts. I hope you didn’t frame that master’s degree.

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      You write: "You are a trained science teacher. Yea okay. Just like Freud was a psychologist and Dr. Fauci is a doctor. No one is impressed with your pseudo-scientific ideas."

      Reply: Yes, they were professionals but were evil. Should you need surgery (God forbid) don't go to a trained surgeon, go to some guy who reads some medical books and thinks he knows what he's doing (wouldn't recommend it). Pseudo-science? How would you know that? It doesn't comport with your preconceived notions of science? Literally, over 95% of all credentialed astronomers and cosmologist agree with the Big Bang and with many lines of evidence.

      You write: "Hawking posited the idea that something comes from nothing, so did Krauss. You want to try and explain it away but you can’t. "

      Reply: Hawking believes it all came from GRAVITY not nothing---just as did Krauss. He thinks space is "nothing." Read his book--the proof is in there.

      You write: "I don’t care what the consensus of scientists is since science is fallible, subject to human error, and is subject to limited human reasoning and the observable universe."

      Reply: True, science must always change when new facts are brought forth. Scientists didn't think being an autotroph was possible without light until chemosynthesis was discovered in 1977.

      Nevertheless, what is YOUR scientific proof that the Big Bang is false? Maybe just YOU are infallible, and all those scientists (including Fr. Lemaitre and Stephen Meyer) were trying to disprove God. (The BB Theory actually works as a proof FOR God).

      You write: "The Big Bang Theory is a scam and one priest who came up with the theory in 1927 when modernism was rampant doesn’t prove anything. Pope Pius XII was a weak Pope, he was surrounded by modernists, made errors in his fallible capacity and believed in some outlandish ideas when it came to science. It doesn’t matter if he was on board with the theory. He also believed the earth was 4 billion years old which has been disproven by actual scientists studying the Grand Canyon and other geological formations showing a mountain of evidence for a young earth."

      Reply: Fr. Lemaitre was anti-Modernist. So who are these "real scientists" who have DISPROVEN (!) an old Earth? Yet, science is "fallible, subject to human error, and is subject to limited human reasoning" as you stated so how do you know it is not your chosen scientists that are wrong? You have no problem believing what they allegedly say.

      You write: "Pope Pius XII FORBADE the pre-1955 Holy Week after the liturgical reforms were in place. The clergy were obligated to follow the new liturgical rubrics. The RCI can’t go around that without being disobedient. Period."

      Reply: Wow! Not only are you a real scientist, you also possess Magisterial authority! Again, the argument is that Pius XII's order NO LONGER BINDS because of EXTRINSIC Circumstances. Do I believe that? I used to, but upon further study, it doesn't hold up. Yet, I will not call the good priests of the SSPV to be disobedient when they honestly believe the law no longer binds. Only the Magisterium can call make that call.

      You write a list of alleged "failings" in the BB Theory without a single citation as to where these "facts" are derived.
      Every single objection has been answered, and confirming evidence is apparent. It is recognized by even the conservative Protestant scientists of the Discovery Institute.

      Finally, you are indeed OVER (your head) and OUT (of your league)

      ---Introibo

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      You write: "The Big Bang Theory goes against Scripture and Tradition. "

      Reply: So Pope Pius XII was a non-pope. But wait, there's more! On June 30, 1909, the Pontifical Biblical Commission issued a decree answering eight (8) questions about the Book of Genesis. The decree was approved by His Holiness, Pope St. Pius X, Foe of Modernism. The answers to the first three questions upholds the overall historical character of the first three chapters of Genesis, however the last two questions are instructive as to the mind of the Church in Biblical exegesis ("interpretation").

      Question # 7: "Whether, since it was not the intention of the sacred author, when writing the first chapter of Genesis, to teach us in a scientific manner the innermost nature of visible things, and to present the complete order of creation but rather to furnish his people with a popular account, such as the common parlance of that age allowed, one, namely, adopted to the senses and to man's intelligence, we are strictly and always bound, when interpreting these chapters to seek for scientific exactitude of expression?"

      Answer: In the negative.

      Question # 8: "Whether the word yom ('day'), which is used in the first chapter of Genesis to describe and distinguish the six days, may be taken in its strict sense as the natural day, or in a less strict sense as signifying a certain space of time; and whether free discussion of this question is permitted to interpreters?"

      Answer: In the affirmative.

      We see that in the response to question # 7, we are not bound to treat Genesis as some sort of science textbook. Question # 8 clearly shows that we are not bound to believe in six literal days of 24 hours each in the creation account. God created the universe in six yom, or time periods, the exact duration of which may be much more than 24 hours. Nor is it necessary to believe in a 6,000 year old Earth. Modern science and Genesis do not contradict each other.

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    16. The basic gist of Church teaching in this area is set forth by the eminent theologian Van Noort:

      "Furthermore, even in those truths which the Ordinary and Universal Magisterium unmistakably inculcates, there is sometimes room for questioning whether all the elements of that teaching are meant to be inculcated with equal force. For example, the following doctrines have always been unmistakably proposed by the Ordinary Magisterium: that God created our first parents by forming their bodies from the slime of the Earth and from the rib of the man; that Adam sinned in tasting the forbidden fruit at the urging of the serpent; that God in punishment for mankind's sins caused a deluge over the entire Earth; that Christ will come one day as the Judge upon the clouds of Heaven, etc.

      Do you think that the definitive intention of the Magisterium bears with equal force upon the mode of the bodily formation and on the very fact of creation? With equal force upon upon the external description of the sin of our first parents and upon the sin itself? With equal force upon the universality of the flood and upon the manifestation of Divine Justice? With equal force upon the circumstances of the heavenly spectacle and upon the actual return of the Judge? Even upon a priori grounds an affirmative answer would have little probability to it, seeing that the circumstances described contribute either nothing at all or very little to religion. Actually, if one checks history, he will find at least a number of the circumstances enumerated have been called into doubt by one or another of the Fathers of the Church, or by excellent theologians, without their teaching ever being considered in the slightest heretical." (See Dogmatic Theology, 3:223-224)

      WOW!! The great theologian Van Noort and Pope St. Pius X didn't realize "The Bible tells us Heaven and earth and everything that created was made by God in six days. This is why we rest on Sunday. There is no mention of billions of years, the earth being a fiery molten rock, a big bang, etc. It’s just preposterous." like YOU realize!!

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    17. You write: "Here are some problems with the falsifiable and scientistic (sic) theory known as the Big Bang."

      Reply: Seeing how little you know of theology, I don't even have to go there.

      You write: "I hope you didn’t frame that master’s degree."

      Reply: I did, but I'll make you a deal. I'll replace it with your peer reviewed work refuting the Big Bang!

      ---Introibo

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    18. @anon9:37
      No strawman. The R&R just like Feeneyites limit obedience to ex cathedra decisions and claim popes can teach heresy when not teaching infallibly. I cited such from CC: "Pope Francis has taught many heresies but never has he taught them using his ex cathedra authority. These heresies do not show that he is not the pope."

      The title of this post is about a pope teaching heresy.

      ---Introibo
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    19. @anon9:28
      Theologian Pohle: "...Circumcision did not, like Baptism, wipe out Original Sin causally, as a signum demonstrativum, but merely incidentally as a signum prognosticism. This theory which is held by St. Thomas... agrees with the universal teaching of the Fathers and THE CONCILLIARY DEFINITIONS OF FLORENCE AND TRENT." (See Dogmatic Theology, [1915], pg.26; Emphasis mine).

      ---Introibo

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  5. Dear Introibo...you did a post a few years ago re Catholic candles Against Sedevacantism. I cannot find it. Could you possibly post a link here and any other CC refutations you may have? Thanks so much!
    God bless you!

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      I am not aware of any other articles against CC. I'll search this week; I may have done so--I have 15 years worth of posts, so I can't remember them all!

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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  6. Hello Introibo. Can you explain the difference between suspicion of heresy and manifest heresy? I would think something would have to be manifest already in order for one to be suspicious? A good article on the distinctions and nuances of the two categories would be great to see. Thank you.

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    1. if you are suspected of heresy and dont defend yourself within six months you become a legally sentenced heretic

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  7. Robert Prevost's (A.K.A. Leo XIV) brother tells us all we need to know right here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JB-Y-wEx0I

    "I think he will be a second Pope Francis"

    Lee

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    1. Scary! They play Wordle. So did novus ordo indult fake priests I know. Of course the words/answers were always foreboding too. Is this brother homosexual?

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    2. Lee,
      Very informative! Thank you for the link!

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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  8. Prevost's false election to the false papacy was political. Given the fact that the false church is bankrupt and Prevost being American and Trump ending the catholic NGO's money laundering schemes.

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      It was political, Satanic, and a farce. God had nothing to do with it.

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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  9. Hello Introibo

    If there is one thing even more shocking than the apostasy of the Vatican Two sect of these false "clerics" is the reaction of the Vatican Two dupes including many so called Traditionalists.

    Imagine someone rejoicing after finding out that he or she was bitten by a poisonous snake that will be fatal in 2 days instead of 2 hours while not seeking an antidote.

    Many of these lunatics are hoping that,while Francis was driving their locomotive towards the abyss at the fifth march,this new Anti Pope will slow it down abit and proceed with the third or second march.They are adamant about not jumbing from the vehicle.They have a warped view of reality.

    Leo XIV is a carbon copy of Francis.Listen to his first speech.He will carry on the work of the direction of Francis.Another wolf in sheeps clothing.

    Also worth noting is he is being praised by his homo pervert apostate friends Cupich,McElroy and James Martin among many others.

    God bless you

    TradSedeCath,NZ

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      Exactly right. Prevost is Bergoglio wearing more traditional garb, and spouting the same heresies!

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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  10. Popes Pius XI and XII vindicated from being the first two heads of the beast confirmed 😎

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  11. Masterful post, Introibo, meticulously researched and presented.

    Alanna

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    1. Alana,
      Thank you! Hopefully, it will put to rest R&R nonsense about "heretical popes."

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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  12. ARGUMENT OF THE NON SEDEVACANTISTS
    - If the See of Peter has been vacant since 1958 (or 1963, depending on the position), and the entire visible hierarchy defected into heresy, where is the visible Church of Christ promised by Our Lord in Matthew 16:18 and Matthew 28:20?
    "Thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."
    "Behold, I am with you all days, even to the consummation of the world."
    If all the bishops and popes have defected, and only a tiny remnant holds the faith — mostly outside hierarchical structure — does this not contradict the indefectibility of the Church and the promises of Christ?
    That’s the heart of the non-sedevacantist argument: not appealing to authority, but appealing to indefectibility and visibility.

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  13. I Respond – A Prolonged period of Sedevacante in fact does NOT contradict the Indefectibility of the church for three reasons.
    1. The church has entered a into prolonged Sedevacante before - In fact every time a pope dies the church enters into this state, in the middle ages during the great western schism the church entered into a state of practical sedevacante for 3 years. As of today, if our argument is correct, the see has been vacant for 66 years to date since 1958, Never has it been proposed that it is impossible for the church to reach that amount of time in the state of sedevacante, in fact it has been prophesied by father berry that the false prophet may be a false pope. Indeed the theologians also recognize that the church is not granted immunity from a prolonged state of sedevacante, case in point - A. Dorsch (1928) “The Church therefore is a society that is essentially monarchical. But this does not prevent the Church, for a short time after the death of a pope, or even for many years, from remaining deprived of her head. Her monarchical form also remains intact in this state.… “Thus the Church is then indeed a headless body.… Her monarchical form of government remains, though then in a different way — that is, it remains incomplete and to be completed. The ordering of the whole to submission to her Primate is present, even though actual submission is not… “For this reason, the See of Rome is rightly said to remain after the person sitting in it has died — for the See of Rome consists essentially in the rights of the Primate. These rights are an essential and necessary element of the Church. With them, moreover, the Primacy then continues, at least morally. The perennial physical presence of the person of the head, however, is not so strictly necessary.” (de Ecclesia 2:196–7)


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  14. 2. The hierarchy of the Church still remains, and we still have the means to elect a pope. The hierarchy of the church continues under those priests and bishops who hold the true faith, these are those consecrated through the lines of Archbishop Thuc and Bishop Mendez. Now even if these did not have ordinary jurisdiction, this would not present a problem for the church as the canonists teach that when in a period of sedevacante the mark of formal apostolicity acts differently. However it can be shown that these in fact DO have ordinary DELEGATED jurisdiction. Canon 199 1917 CIC states the following - Canon 199 (1983 CIC 137) Cross-Ref.: 1917 CIC 1606
    § 1. Whoever has ordinary power of jurisdiction can delegate it to another in whole or in part,
    unless it is expressly provided otherwise by law.
    § 2. Even the power of jurisdiction delegated by the Apostolic See can be subdelegated either
    for an act or even habitually, unless [the one with the power] was chosen because of personal
    characteristics or subdelegation is prohibited.
    § 3. Power delegated for a universe of causes by one below the Roman Pontiff who has ordinary
    power can be subdelegated for individual cases.
    § 4. In other cases, delegated power of jurisidiction can only be subdelegated by a concession
    expressly made, although delegated judges can delegate the non-jurisdictional elements [of their
    work] without express commission.
    § 5. No subdelegated power can be subdelegated again, unless this was expressly granted.
    Now we know that Archbishop Thuc was given the OFFICE of Apostolic Delegate, and that therefore Canon 199 teaches that this jurisdiction would be subdelegated to those bishops he consecrated. If anybody wishes to argue that this is not the case due to clause 5 of canon 199 which states that "No subdelegated power can be subdelegated again, unless this was expressly granted." Yet this must fall under epikeia, should the church be in sedevacante, for there would be an absence of a lawmaker, and there would be a harm of loss of ordinary jurisdiction. While people may object that ordinary jurisdiction and delegated jurisdiction are not the same, i respond that canon 199 is talking of the delegated jurisdiction which is ordinary as it is tied to an office, in this case that of papal legate. Now i shall address - The Nature of Archbishop Thuc's Powers
    An important issue needs to be raised here. It is often objected that the "Thuc" consecrations are illicit (i.e. contrary to the law of the Church). This is because, if any bishop consecrates another bishop without papal permission, they receive an excommunication reserved to the Holy See. In Archbishop Thuc's case, this is not so. Pius XI had conceded special powers to the Archbishop to perform consecrations without referring to Rome for approval (powers we should point out which were never revoked). In 1987 the traditionalist publication "Sous la Bannière" published the text of this "Motu Proprio."
    MOTU PROPRIO OF POPE PIUS XI
    Translation of the Latin Original(right)
    "By virtue of the Plenitude of the powers of the Holy Apostolic See, we appoint as our Legate Pierre Martin Ngo Dinh Thuc, titular bishop of Saigon, whom we invest with all the necessary powers, for purposes known to us."
    Given at Rome at Saint Peter's, on 15 March 1938, the seventeenth year of our pontificate. Pope Pius XI,
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  15. What does this document mean ? Let us examine a parallel case in which Pius XI conceded identical powers to another prelate. On 10 March 1920, the same pope Pius XI dictated the same motu proprio for Mgr d'Herbigny (S.J.). The account is recorded in the book of Father Paul Lesourd, published by Lethielleux Editions under the title "Le Jesuite clandestine"
    Here is the translation
    Motu Proprio By virtue of the plenitude of the Apostolic power, we appoint as our Delegate Michel d'Herbigngy (S.J.), titular bishop of Troie, whom we invest with all the appropriate and necessary powers, for purposes known to us.
    Given at Rome at Saint Peter's, on 10 March 1926, the fifth year of our pontificate. Pius XI, Pope
    The two cases are analogous. With this Act of the Holy See, the two bishops received pontifical powers, similar to those of Patriarchs. The details of these powers are explained by Pius XI himself, as reported by Father Lesourd in the following terms:
    "Orally, the Holy Father first enumerated in detail all the powers which he conferred, including the selection of priests to be ordained and to confer on them the episcopate without the need for them to have pontifical bulls, nor therefore to give their signatures inviting them to act accordingly on the strength of the oath."
    "Then, after having at length set out in detail by word of mouth all the powers which were really extraordinary, the Pope resumed them most solemnly as follows"
    "In one word, we grant to you all the pontifical powers of the Pope himself, which are not incommunicable by divine right."(translation from the French)

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  16. 3. Shrinking in numbers is not the same thing as defection, if a shrinking in numbers meant defection the church would have defected during the Arian crisis, which we know to be impossible.
    Now for my argument:
    1. Indefectibility - If the men since 1958 who claim to be the popes are truly popes, then the church would have defected and the gates of hell would have prevailed, For the gates of hell are the mouths of heretics.
    2. - The Pope and Heresy - It is a church teaching that a public notorious heretic cannot be elected as the pope of the catholic church, and is the common opinion of the theologians that should a pope fall into public notorious heresy they would immediately fall from office without the need for canonical sentencing, losing all jurisdiction.
    3. Infallibility - It is a dogma that the church cannot feed poison or heresy to the faithful, yet the documents of Vatican 2 directly contradict the infallible teachings of the church in a way which is not Continuity as some argue but rather is a rupture.
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  17. CITATIONS
    REQUEST TO ME 1. – “Fr. Berry Prophecy
    “It has been prophesied by Father Berry that the false prophet may be a false pope.”
    • Please provide the exact quote and source from Fr. E. Sylvester Berry, if possible — I am familiar with his work "The Apocalypse of St. John," so a page number or quote would help.”

    MY CITATION - 1. Here is my father berry source - “The prophesies of the Apocalypse show that Satan will imitate the Church of Christ to deceive mankind; he will set up a church of Satan in opposition of the Church of Christ. Antichrist will assume the role of Messias; his prophet will act the part of pope, and there will be imitations of the Sacraments of the Church. There will also be lying wonders in imitation of the miracles wrought in the Church...there seems to be no reason why a false Church might not become universal, even more universal than the true one, at least for a time."
    - Fr. Berry, The Church of Christ: An Apologetic and Dogmatic Treatise [1927], pg.119, 155
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  18. REQUEST TO ME 2 – “Canonical Delegation from Archbishop Thuc
    “Archbishop Thuc was given the OFFICE of Apostolic Delegate,” and “powers which were never revoked.”
    • Can you provide the full Latin text or citation of the 1938 motu proprio granting Thuc these legatine powers, and any Church documentation affirming those powers were never rescinded?”
    MY CITATION 2. - the latin original is contained in this image
    Translation of the Latin Original(right)
    "By virtue of the Plenitude of the powers of the Holy Apostolic See, we appoint as our Legate Pierre Martin Ngo Dinh Thuc, titular bishop of Saigon, whom we invest with all the necessary powers, for purposes known to us."
    Given at Rome at Saint Peter's, on 15 March 1938, the seventeenth year of our pontificate. Pope Pius XI,
    Explanation of these powers
    What does this document mean ? Let us examine a parallel case in which Pius XI conceded identical powers to another prelate. On 10 March 1920, the same pope Pius XI dictated the same motu proprio for Mgr d'Herbigny (S.J.). The account is recorded in the book of Father Paul Lesourd, published by Lethielleux Editions under the title "Le Jesuite clandestine"
    Here is the translation
    Motu Proprio By virtue of the plenitude of the Apostolic power, we appoint as our Delegate Michel d'Herbigngy (S.J.), titular bishop of Troie, whom we invest with all the appropriate and necessary powers, for purposes known to us.
    Given at Rome at Saint Peter's, on 10 March 1926, the fifth year of our pontificate. Pius XI, Pope
    The two cases are analogous. With this Act of the Holy See, the two bishops received pontifical powers, similar to those of Patriarchs. The details of these powers are explained by Pius XI himself, as reported by Father Lesourd in the following terms:
    "Orally, the Holy Father first enumerated in detail all the powers which he conferred, including the selection of priests to be ordained and to confer on them the episcopate without the need for them to have pontifical bulls, nor therefore to give their signatures inviting them to act accordingly on the strength of the oath."
    "Then, after having at length set out in detail by word of mouth all the powers which were really extraordinary, the Pope resumed them most solemnly as follows"
    "In one word, we grant to you all the pontifical powers of the Pope himself, which are not incommunicable by divine right."(translation from the French)
    As for proof that the powers were never rescinded i have a small timeline,-
    +Appointed by Pope Pius XI in 1938 as titular Bishop of Sesina and Apostolic Vicar in Vietnam.
    +Motu Proprio of Pope Pius XI of March 15th, 1938 grants extraordinary authority to the Archbishop.
    +December 8th, 1939 Pope Pius XII renews the extraordinary authority granted to the Archbishop. His authority to act with these special powers was never rescinded by subsequent popes.
    +In 1957 the Archbishop founds the Catholic University of Dalat.
    the fact is proven by the fact of there being no documents found of Pius xii rescinding it, or even of Roncalli and co "rescinding it"
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  19. MY CITATION 3. - In regard to epikeia that i applied to canon 199.5 I was using logical conclusion, as assuming sedevacante there would be an absence of lawmaker, and there would be a harm done to the church if it lacked ordinary jurisdiction, however i will quote to you some theologians who teach that in a period of sedevacante the bishops themselves can elect a pope, if there are no cardinals. Implying ordinary jurisdiction. Journet, following Cajetan, gives his answer in the third section below:
    “In a case where the settled conditions of validity have become inapplicable, the task of determining new ones falls to the Church by devolution, this last word being taken, as Cajetan notes not in the strict sense (devolution is strictly to the higher authority in case of default in the lower) but in the wide sense, signifying all transmission even to an inferior. […]
    “… when the provisions of the Canon Law cannot be fulfilled, the right to elect will belong to certain mem¬bers of the Church of Rome. In default of the Roman clergy the right will belong to the Church universal, of which the Pope is to be Bishop.” If there were no papal constitution on the election of the Supreme Pontiff; or if by some chance all the electors designated by law, that is, all the Cardinals, perished simultaneously, the right of election would pertain to the neighboring bishops and the Roman clergy, but with some dependence on a general council of bishops.
    In this proposition, there does not appear to be universal agreement. Some think that, exclusive of positive law, the right of election would devolve on a Council of Bishops, as Cajetan, tract. De Potestate Papae & Concilii, cap. 13 & 21 & Francis Victoria, relect. 2. quest. 2. De potestate Ecclesiae.
    Others, as Sylvester relates s.v. Excommunicatio, 9. sec. 3, teach that in that case the right of election pertains to the Roman clergy.
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  20. REQUEST TO ME 4 . – “The Common Theological Opinion on Heretical Popes Losing Office Ipso Facto
    “It is the common opinion of the theologians that should a pope fall into public notorious heresy they would immediately fall from office.”
    (I was requested a citation for this)
    MY CITATION 4. - Here are my quotes regarding loss of office, Matthaeus Conte a Coronata (1950)
    “III. Appointment to the office of the Primacy [i.e. papacy]. 1o What is required by divine law for this appointment: (a) The person appointed must be a man who possesses the use of reason, due to the ordination the Primate must receive to possess the power of Holy Orders. This is required for the validity of the appointment.
    Also required for validity is that the man appointed be a member of the Church. Heretics and apostates (at least public ones) are therefore excluded.”…
    2o Loss of office of the Roman Pontiff. This can occur in various ways:….
    c) Notorious heresy. Certain authors deny the supposition that the Roman Pontiff can become a heretic.
    It cannot be proven however that the Roman Pontiff, as a private teacher, cannot become a heretic – if, for example, he would contumaciously deny a previously defined dogma. Such impeccability was never promised by God. Indeed, Pope Innocent III expressly admits such a case is possible.
    If indeed such a situation would happen, he [the Roman Pontiff] would, by divine law, fall from office without any sentence, indeed without a declaratory one. He who openly professes heresy
    places himself outside the Church, and it is not likely that Christ would preserve the Primacy of His Church in one so unworthy. Wherefore, if the Roman Pontiff were to profess heresy, before any condemnatory sentence (which would be impossible anyway) he would lose his authority.”
    Institutiones Iuris Canonici. Rome: Marietti 1:312,316. My emphasis.
    Pope Innocent III (1198)
    “The Roman Pontiff has no superior but God. Who, therefore (should a pope ‘lose his savor’) could cast him out or trample him under foot – since of the pope it is said ‘gather thy flock into thy fold’. Truly, he should not flatter himself about his power, nor should he rashly glory in his honour and high estate, because the less he is judged by man, the more he is judged by God.
    Still less can the Roman Pontiff glory [Minus dico] because he can be judged by men, or rather, can be shown to be already judged, if for example he should wither away into heresy; because he who does not believe is already judged.
    In such a case it should be said of him: ‘If salt should lose its savor, it is good for nothing but to be cast out and trampled under foot by men’.”
    Sermo 4.
    St Antoninus (1459)
    “In the case in which the pope would become a heretic, he would find himself, by that fact alone and without any other sentence, separated from the Church. A head separated from a body cannot, as long as it remains separated, be head of the same body from which it was cut off.
    A pope who would be separated from the Church by heresy, therefore, would by that very fact cease to be head of the Church. He could not be a heretic and remain pope, because since he is outside of the Church, he cannot possess the keys of the Church.”
    Summa Theologica, cited in Actes de Vatican I. V. Frond, publisher.

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  21. Pope Paul IV (1559)
    “Further, if ever that it should appear that any bishop (even one acting as an archbishop, patriarch or primate), or a cardinal of the Roman Church, or a legate (as mentioned above), or even the Roman Pontiff (whether prior to his promotion to cardinal, or prior to his election as Roman Pontiff), has beforehand deviated from the Catholic faith or fallen into any heresy, We enact, decree, determine and define:
    – Such promotion or election in and of itself, even with the agreement and unanimous consent of all the cardinals, shall be null, legally invalid and void.
    – It shall not be possible for such a promotion or election to be deemed valid or to be valid, neither through reception of office, consecration, subsequent administration, or possession, nor even through the putative enthronement of a Roman Pontiff himself, together with the veneration and obedience accorded to him by all.
    -Such promotion or election, shall not through any lapse of time in the foregoing situation, be considered even partially legitimate in any way….
    – Each and all of the words, as acts, laws, appointments of those so promoted or elected – and indeed, whatsoever flows therefrom – shall be lacking in force, and shall grant no stability and legal power to anyone whatsoever.
    – Those so promoted or elected, by that very fact and without the need to make any further declaration, shall be deprived of any dignity, position, honour, title, authority, office and power.”
    Bull Cum ex Apostolatus Officio. 16 February 1559.
    St Robert Bellarmine (1610)
    “A pope who is a manifest heretic (per se) ceases to be pope and head, just as he ceases automatically to be a Christian and a member of the Church. Wherefore, he can be judged and punished by the Church. This is the teaching of all the ancient Fathers who teach that manifest heretics immediately lose all jurisdiction.”
    De Romano Pontifice. II.30.
    St Alphonsus Liguori (1787)
    “If ever a pope, as a private person, should fall into heresy, he would at once fall from the pontificate.”
    Oeuvres Completes. 9:232.
    Vatican I (1869), Serapius Iragui (1959)
    “What would be said if the Roman Pontiff were to become a heretic? In the First Vatican Council, the following question was proposed: Whether or not the Roman Pontiff as a private person could fall into manifest heresy?
    The response was thus: ‘Firmly trusting in supernatural providence, we think that such things quite probably will never occur. But God does not fail in times of need. Wherefore, if He Himself would permit such an evil, the means to deal with it would not be lacking.’ [Mansi 52:1109]
    Theologians respond the same way. We cannot prove the absolute impossibility of such an event [absolutam repugnatiam facti]. For this reason, theologians commonly concede that the Roman Pontiff, if he should fall into manifest heresy, would no longer be a member of the Church, and therefore could neither be called its visible head.”
    Manuale Theologiae Dogmaticae. Madrid: Ediciones Studium 1959. 371.
    J. Wilhelm (1913)
    “The pope himself, if notoriously guilty of heresy, would cease to be pope because he would cease to be a member of the Church.”
    Catholic Encyclopedia. New York: Encyclopedia Press 1913. 7:261.

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  22. Caesar Badii (1921)
    “c) The law now in force for the election of the Roman Pontiff is reduced to these points:….
    Barred as incapable of being validly elected are the following: women, children who have not reached the age of reason, those suffering from habitual insanity, the unbaptised, heretics and schismatics….
    Cessation of pontifical power. This power ceases:….
    (d) Through notorious and openly divulged heresy. A publicly heretical pope would no longer be a member of the Church; for this reason, he could no longer be its head.”
    Institutiones Iuris Canonici. Florence: Fiorentina 1921. 160, 165. His emphasis.
    Dominic Prummer (1927)
    “The power of the Roman Pontiff is lost:….
    (c) By his perpetual insanity or by formal heresy. And this at least probably….
    The authors indeed commonly teach that a pope loses his power through certain and notorious heresy, but whether this case is really possible is rightly doubted.
    Based on the supposition, however, that a pope could fall into heresy, as a private person (for as pope he could not err in faith, because he would be infallible), various authors have worked out different answers as to how he could then be deprived of his power. None of the answers, nevertheless, exceed the limits of probability.”
    Manuale Iuris Canonici. Freiburg im Briesgau: Herder 1927. 95. His emphasis.
    F.X. Wernz, P. Vidal (1943)
    “Through notorious and openly divulged heresy, the Roman Pontiff, should he fall into heresy, by that very fact [ipso facto] is deemed to be deprived of the power of jurisdiction even before any declaratory judgement by the Church….
    A pope who falls into public heresy would cease ipso facto to be a member of the Church; therefore, he would also cease to be head of the Church.”
    Ius Canonicum. Rome: Gregorian 1943. 2:453.
    Udalricus Beste (1946)
    “Not a few canonists teach that, outside of death and abdication, the pontifical dignity can also be lost by falling into certain insanity, which is legally equivalent to death, as well as through manifest and notorious heresy. In the latter case, a pope would automatically fall from his power, and this indeed without the issuance of any sentence, for the first See [i.e. the See of Peter] is judged by no one.
    The reason is that, by falling into heresy, the pope ceases to be a member of the Church. He who is not a member of a society, obviously cannot be its head. We can find no example of this in history.”
    Introductio in Codicem. 3rd ed. Collegeville: St John’s Abbey Press 1946. Canon 221.
    A. Vermeersch, I. Creusen (1949)
    ” The power of the Roman Pontiff ceases by death, free resignation (which is valid without need for any acceptance, c.221), certain and unquestionably perpetual insanity and notorious heresy.
    At least according to the more common teaching, the Roman Pontiff as a private teacher can fall into manifest heresy. Then, without any declaratory sentence (for the supreme See is judged by no one), he would automatically [ipso facto] fall from a power which he who is no longer a member of the Church is unable to possess.”
    Epitome Iuris Canonici. Rome: Dessain 1949. 340.
    Eduardus F. Regatillo (1956)
    “The Roman Pontiff ceases in office:….(4) Through notorious public heresy? Five answers have been given:
    ‘The pope cannot be a heretic even as a private teacher.’ A pious thought, but essentially unfounded.
    ‘The pope loses office even through secret heresy.’ False, because a secret heretic can be a member of the Church.
    ‘The pope does not lose office because of public heresy.’ Objectionable.
    ‘The pope loses office by a judicial sentence because of public heresy.’ But who would issue the sentence? The See of Peter is judged by no one (Canon 1556).
    ‘The pope loses office ipso facto because of public heresy.’ This is the more common teaching, because a pope would not be a member of the Church, and hence far less could be its head.” Institutiones Iuris Canonici. 5th ed. Santander: Sal Terrae, 1956. 1:396. His emphasis.

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  23. REQUEST TO ME 5 – “Dogmatic Contradiction by Vatican II
    “Vatican II directly contradicts the infallible teachings of the Church.”
    • Please specify which dogma was contradicted, and which exact conciliar document or passage from Vatican II you believe constitutes formal heresy.”
    MY CITATION 5. – “In order to comprehend sufficiently the doctrinal errors which have emanated from the Second Vatican Council, it is necessary to review the very foundation of our holy religion.
    As Catholics, we firmly believe in Divine Revelation, that Almighty God has revealed truths to mankind in regard to what man must believe and how he must live in order to fulfill his purpose here on earth.
    Of the many religions in the world today, which religion has been revealed by God Himself? There can be no doubt that there is but one religion which has been revealed by Almighty God through Jesus Christ, His only begotten Son, the Eternal Word made Flesh.


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  24. This is the foundation of our holy Faith, as Pope Pius XI taught in his encyclical, Mortalium Animos (1929):
    “God, the Creator of all things, made us that we might know Him and serve Him; to our service, therefore, He has a full right…. He willed, however, to make positive laws which we should obey, and progressively, from the beginning of the human race until the coming and preaching of Jesus Christ, He Himself taught mankind the duties which a rational creature owes to his Creator. “God, Who at sundry times and in divers manners spoke in times past to the fathers by the prophets, last of all in these days hath spoken to us by His Son” (Heb. 1:1, seq.). Evidently, therefore, no religion can be true save that which rests upon the revelation of God, a revelation begun from the very first, continued under the Old Law, and brought to completion by Jesus Christ Himself under the New. Now, if God has spoken — and it is historically certain that He has in fact spoken — then it is clearly man’s duty implicitly to believe His revelation and to obey His commands.”
    And how do we know that there is but one religion revealed by God? What evidence has been manifested by God to demonstrate the divine origin of Christianity?
    The answer is miracles and prophesies, these supernatural events which prove the divine origin of Christianity. As we read in St. Pope Pius X’s Oath Against Modernism(1910):
    “I accept and acknowledge the external proofs of revelation, that is, divine acts and especially miracles and prophecies as the surest signs of the divine origin of the Christian religion and I hold that these same proofs are well adapted to the understanding of all eras and all men, even of this time.”
    No other religion in the world has the supernatural proof that Christianity has.
    “These surest proofs of the divine origin of the Christian religion” manifest to all men the religion by which God wills to be worshiped and make it obligatory for man to seek the true religion and practice it.
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  25. Pope Leo XIII taught in Satis Cognitum (1896):
    “It was thus the duty of all who heard Jesus Christ, if they wished for eternal salvation, not merely to accept His doctrine as a whole, but to assent with their entire mind to each and every point of it, since it is unlawful to withhold faith from God even in regard to one single point.”
    And just as it is certain as there is one religion revealed by God, it is also certain that there is but one true Church founded by Jesus Christ. The one true Church of Christ is the Catholic Church; this is a historical fact, confirmed by Sacred Scripture and Sacred Tradition. No other church can be historically traced back to Jesus Christ and His Apostles; no other church is confirmed by Sacred Scripture and Tradition.
    Pope Boniface VIII in his Bull Unam Sanctam (1302) infallibly taught:
    “We are compelled in virtue of our faith to believe and maintain that there is only one Catholic Church, and that one apostolic. This we firmly believe and profess without qualification. Outside this church there is no salvation and no remission of sins. Thus the spouse proclaims in the Canticle, ‘One is my dove: my perfect one is but one. She is the only one of her mother, the chosen of her that bore her’ (Cant. 6:8). Now this chosen one represents the one mystical body whose head is Christ, and Christ’s head is God. In her there is ‘one Lord, one faith, one baptism’ (Eph. 4:5). For at the time of the deluge there existed only one ark, the figure of the one Church.”
    Pope Leo XIII in his encyclical Satis Cognitum (1896) reiterated this doctrine:
    “There is clear and abundant proof in Sacred Scripture that there is one genuine Church of Jesus Christ… According to factual history, then, Jesus Christ did not plan and establish a Church made up of a number of organizations that were genetically similar, yet separate and without those bonds of unity which make the Church one and indivisible as we profess in the Creed, ‘I believe in one Church.’… When Jesus Christ spoke of this mystical structure, he spoke of one Church only which he called his own: ‘I will build my Church’ (Matt. 16:18). Since no other church besides this one was founded by Jesus Christ, no other church which could be imagined can be the true Church of Christ.”
    Furthermore, Pope Pius XII in his encyclical Mystici Corporis (1943) summarized the teaching of his predecessors:
    “If we would define and describe this true Church of Jesus Christ — which is the One, Holy, Catholic, Apostolic Roman Church — we shall find no expression more noble, more sublime or more divine than the phrase which calls it ‘the Mystical Body of Jesus Christ.’”
    Ever convinced of her divine origin, the Catholic Church has always condemned the erroneous belief that all religions are more or less good and praiseworthy and that it doesn’t matter to what church one belongs for men can find salvation in any church. This is the false doctrine of religious indifferentism which has been frequently condemned by the Catholic Church.
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  26. Pope Pius IX in his encyclical Singulari Quadam (1854) warned the Catholic hierarchy:
    “We want your episcopal care and vigilance to be on the alert to keep away from men’s minds, with all possible effort, that opinion which is as unholy as it is deadly. We mean the opinion that a way of eternal salvation can be found in any religion whatever. With all the learning and ingenuity that is yours, teach the people entrusted to your care that the dogmas of the Catholic faith are not in the slightest opposed to the mercy and justice of God.
    “It must, of course, be held as a matter of faith that outside the apostolic Roman Church no one can be saved, that the Church is the only ark of salvation, and that whoever does not enter it will perish in the flood.”
    Ten years later Pope Pius IX issued his Syllabus of Errors (1864) in which he condemned the following propositions:
    CONDEMNED PROPOSITIONS:
    • “Every man is free to embrace and profess that religion which, guided by the light of reason, he shall have come to consider as true.”
    • “Men can find the way of eternal salvation and reach eternal salvation in any form of religious worship.”
    • “Good hopes, at least, must be entertained of the eternal salvation of all those who in no way belong to the True Church of Christ.”
    • “Protestantism is nothing else than a different form of the same True Christian Religion, and in it one can be as pleasing to God as in the Catholic Church.”
    The main problem with the various religions of the world is that they do not accept Divine Revelation, and in regard to the Protestant churches they do not accept all that Christ has commanded. Our Divine Savior commanded his Apostles to “teach all nations… teaching them to observe all that I have commanded” (Matt 28:19,20) and He added, “He who is baptized and believes will be saved and he who does not believe will be condemned” (Mark 16:16).
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  27. Pope Benedict XV stressed this in his encyclical Ad Beatissimi (1914):
    “Such is the nature of Catholicism that it does not admit of more or less, but must be held as a whole or as a whole rejected: ‘This is the Catholic Faith, which unless a man believe faithfully and firmly, he cannot be saved’ (Athanasian Creed). There is no need of adding any qualifying terms to the profession of Catholicism: it is quite enough for each one to proclaim ‘Christian is my name and Catholic my surname,’ only let him endeavor to be in reality what he calls himself.”
    So important is the necessity of the profession of the true Faith in its entirety that Pope Leo XIII taught in his encyclical Sapientiae Christianae (1890):
    “To refuse to believe any one of them is equivalent to rejecting them all.”
    Later on, the same pontiff, Pope Leo XIII, warned in Satis Cognitum (1896):
    “There can be nothing more dangerous than those heretics who admit nearly the whole series of doctrines, and yet BY ONE WORD, as with a drop of poison, taint the real and simple faith taught by Our Lord and handed down by apostolic tradition. From this it is very easy to see that men can fall away from the unity of the Church by schism, as well as by heresy.”
    Pope Pius XI reiterated this in Mortalium Animos (1929):
    “For it is indeed a question of defending revealed truth. Jesus Christ sent His Apostles into the whole world to declare the Faith of the Gospel to every nation, and to save them from error…”
    “Now if God has spoken — and it is historically certain that He has in fact spoken — then it is clearly man’s duty implicitly to believe His revelation and to obey His commands. That we might rightly do both, for the glory of God and for our own salvation, the only-begotten Son of God founded His Church on earth. None, we think, of those who claim to be Christians will deny that a Church, and one sole Church, was founded by Christ.”
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  28. Pope Pius XII in his encyclical Mystici Corporis (1943) summarized the teaching of his predecessor in this regard:
    “Only those are really to be included as members of the Church who have been baptized and profess the true faith and who have not had the misfortune of withdrawing from the body or for grave faults been cut off by legitimate authority. ‘For in one Spirit,’ says the Apostle, ‘we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Gentiles, whether slaves or free’ (1 Cor. 12:13). As, therefore, in the true Christian community there is only one body, one Spirit, one Lord and one baptism, so there can be only one faith (see Eph 4:5). And so if a man refuses to listen to the Church, he should be considered, so the Lord commands, as a heathen and a publican (see Matt. 18:17). It follows that those who are divided in faith or government cannot be living in one body such as this and cannot be living the life of its one divine Spirit”
    Having considered these truths of our holy Catholic Faith, we turn our attention to the doctrinal errors of the Second Vatican Council.
    The primary doctrinal error of this false council is religious indifferentism; to demonstrate this, we quote from the very documents which it promulgated. In the Declaration on the Relationship of the Church to Non-Christian Religions, Nostra Aetate, (October 28, 1965) we find the clear contradiction of the first Commandment of God, “I am the Lord, thy God, thou shalt not have strange gods before me”:
    “From ancient times down to the present, there has existed among divers peoples a certain perception of the hidden power that hovers over the course of things and over the events of human life; at times, indeed, recognition can be found of a Supreme Divinity, and of a Supreme Father, too. Such a perception and such a recognition instill the lives of these peoples with a profound religious sense.
    “Thus, in Hinduism men contemplate the divine mystery and express it through an inexhaustible fruitfulness of myths and a searching philosophical inquiry. They seek release from the anguish of our condition through ascetical practices or deep meditation or a loving, trusting flight toward God.”
    Hinduism is a pantheistic (the world is god) as well as a polytheistic (many gods) religion. It recognizes various gods in the created world. The world and everything in it, including man, is god. Among the various Hindu divinities, there are three of great importance — Brahma, the creator; Vishnu, the preserver; and Shiva, the destroyer. Hindus worship many animals as gods. Cows are the most sacred, but they also worship monkeys, snakes and other animals. How can Hindus make a “loving, trusting flight to God” when they worship false gods?
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  29. Continuing from the Declaration Nostra Aetate:
    “Buddhism in its multiple forms acknowledges the radical insufficiency of this shifting world. It teaches a path by which men, in a devout and confident spirit, can either reach a state of absolute freedom or attain supreme enlightenment by their own efforts or by higher assistance.”
    Buddhism teaches nothing about God; all beings are essentially equal; all things are changing constantly, except the Law alone by force of which good actions produce a reward, and bad actions bring forth punishment; therefore man does not differ essentially from other beings; he is subjected to a metempsychosis (the rebirth of the soul at death into the body of either a human or an animal form — reincarnation) until he acquires perfection in nirvana.
    How can the Conciliar Church speak of “supreme enlightenment” in Buddhism? How can there be any enlightenment without knowledge of the true God and with the false belief of reincarnation?
    Also from Nostra Aetate:
    “Upon the Muslims, too, the church looks with esteem. They adore one God, living and enduring, merciful and all-powerful, Maker of heaven and earth and Speaker to men…. Though they do not acknowledge Jesus as God, they revere Him as a prophet.”
    Once again we can recognize the utterly contradictory position of the Council. It praises the Muslims because “they revere Him (Jesus) as a prophet;” yet, they deny His divinity which Jesus Christ openly declared and most powerfully demonstrated by His miracles (especially His Resurrection). If the Muslims revere Jesus as a prophet, how can they claim that He is not divine. Prophets speak the truth from God, and Jesus Christ proclaimed Himself the Son of God!
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  30. Again, from Nostra Aetate:
    “Likewise, other religions to be found everywhere strive variously to answer the restless searchings of the human heart by proposing ‘ways,’ which consist of teachings, rules of life and sacred ceremonies.
    “The Catholic Church rejects nothing that is true and holy in these religions… The Church therefore has this exhortation for her sons: prudently and lovingly, through dialogue and collaboration with the followers of other religions, and in witness of Christian faith and life, acknowledge, preserve and promote the spiritual and moral goods found among these men, as well as the values in their society and culture.”
    Here we find the apostasy from the Catholic Church to the Conciliar Church of Vatican II! No longer will the Conciliar Church seek to convert the world to Christ; it will now promote the “good” found in those other religions; yet, what good is in the worship of false gods? The Declaration does not list any particular area of goodness of these false religions. How can one witness to the Christian faith while he promotes the “good” of false religions? This is an impossibility!
    This recognition of all the religions of the world has been the consistent theological theme of the Conciliar Church, John Paul II, and Benedict XVI. In his catechesis “The Seeds of the Word in the Religions of the World” (September 9, 1998), John Paul II stated:
    “The Holy Spirit is not only present in other religions through authentic expressions of prayer. ‘The Spirit’s presence and activity,’ as I wrote in the encyclical letter Redemptoris Missio, ‘affects not only individuals but also society and history, peoples, cultures and religions.’”
    “Normally, ‘it will be in the sincere practice of what is good in their own religious traditions and by following the dictates of their own conscience that the members of other religions respond positively to God’s invitation and receive salvation in Jesus Christ, even while they do not recognize or acknowledge Him as their Savior.’”
    Not only does this catechesis of John Paul II proclaim the doctrinal error condemned by Pope Pius IX in his Syllabus of Errors:
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  31. CONDEMNED PROPOSITIONS:
    “Every man is free to embrace and profess that religion which, guided by the light of reason, he shall have come to consider as true.”
    “Men can find the way of eternal salvation and reach eternal salvation in any form of religious worship.”
    …but also it smacks of the modernism so vehemently condemned by Pope St. Pius X in his Oath Against Modernism (1910):
    “.. .Fifthly, I hold with certainty and sincerely confess that faith is not a blind sentiment of religion welling up from the depths of the subconscious under the impulse of the heart and the motion of a will trained to morality; but faith is a genuine assent of the intellect to truth received by hearing from an external source. By this assent, because of the authority of the supremely truthful God, we believe to be true that which has been revealed and attested to by a personal God, our Creator and Lord.”
    Faith is a supernatural virtue by which men firmly believe all that God has divinely revealed; faith is NOT some “blind sentiment of religion welling up” in an individual as John Paul II falsely taught.
    One of the natural consequences of religious indifferentism is the equally erroneous belief of false ecumenism. Those who profess religious indifferentism promote dialogue and common worship not only between the various Christian churches but also the various religious of the world.
    As the contagion of religious indifferentism and false ecumenism began to spread with particular devastation, Pope Pius XI condemned these erroneous beliefs in no uncertain terms in Mortalium Animos (1929):

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  32. “With this object, congresses, meetings and addresses are arranged, attended by a large concourse of hearers, where all without distinction, unbelievers of every kind as well as Christians, even those who unhappily have rejected Christ and denied His Divine Nature or mission, are invited to join in the discussion. Now, such efforts can meet with no kind of approval among Catholics. They presuppose the erroneous view that all religions are more or less good and praiseworthy, inasmuch as all give expression, under various forms to that innate sense which leads men to God and to the obedient acknowledgment of His rule. Those who hold such a view are not only in error, they distort the true idea of religion, and thus reject it, falling gradually into naturalism and atheism. To favor this opinion, therefore, and to encourage such undertakings is tantamount to abandoning the religion revealed by God…
    “This being so, it is clear that the Apostolic See can by no means take part in these assemblies, nor is it in any way lawful for Catholics to give to such enterprises their encouragement or support. If they did so, they would be giving countenance to a false Christianity quite alien to the one Church of Christ. Shall we commit the iniquity of suffering the truth, the truth revealed by God, to be made a subject for compromise?
    “… Can the object of faith, then, have become in the process of time so dim and uncertain that today we must tolerate contradictory opinions? If this were so, then we should have to admit that the coming of the Holy Ghost upon the Apostles, the perpetual indwelling of the same Spirit in the Church, nay, the very preaching of Jesus Christ, have centuries ago lost their efficacy and value. To affirm this would be blasphemy.
    “… Thus, Venerable Brethren, it is clear why this Apostolic See has never allowed its subjects to take part in the assemblies of non-Catholics. There is but one way in which the unity of Christians may be fostered, and that is by furthering the return to the one true Church of Christ of those who are separated from it, for far from that one true Church they have in the past fallen away. The one Church of Christ is visible to all, and will remain, according to the Will of its Author, exactly the same as He instituted it.”
    In the 1917 Code of Canon Law (Canon 125 8) Catholics are forbidden to participate actively in the worship of non-Catholics (communicatio in sacris):
    “It is unlawful for the faithful to assist in any active manner, or to take part in the sacred services of non-Catholics.” (Canon 1258)
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  33. Furthermore, Canon 2316 declares:
    “A person who of his own accord and knowingly helps in any manner to propagate heresy, or who communicates in sacred rites (in divinis) with heretics in violation of the prohibition of Canon 1258, incurs suspicion of heresy.”
    In the Decree on Ecumenism, Unitatis Redintegratio, (November 21,1964) the Second Vatican Council promulgated the following:
    “The brethren divided from us also carry out many of the sacred actions of the Christian religion. Undoubtedly, in ways that vary according to the condition of each Church or Community, these actions can truly engender a life of grace, and can be rightly described as capable of providing access to the community of salvation.
    “It follows that these separated Churches and Communities, though we believe they suffer from defects already mentioned, have by no means been deprived of significance and importance in the mystery of salvation. For the Spirit of Christ has not refrained from using them as means of salvation which derive their efficacy from the very fullness of grace and truth entrusted to the Catholic Church.
    “As for common worship, however, it may not be regarded as a means to be used indiscriminately for the restoration of unity among Christians. Such worship depends chiefly on two principles: it should signify the unity of the Church; it should provide a sharing in the means of grace. The fact that it should signify unity generally rules out common worship. Yet the gaining of needed grace sometimes commends it.”
    As Pope Leo XIII wrote in his encyclical Satis Cognitum (1896):
    “There is nothing more dangerous than those heretics who admit nearly the whole series of doctrines and yet, by one word as with a drop of poison, taint the real and simple faith taught by Our Lord and handed down by Apostolic Tradition.”
    The drop of poison by which the Conciliar Church has brought about the apostasy is this approval of false ecumenism, under the disguise that “the needed grace recommends it.”
    This false ecumenism has lead to the destruction of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass and its replacement with the Novus Ordo. This false ecumenism has lead to the sacrilegious practice of the administration of the Sacraments to schismatics and heretics under certain circumstances.
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  34. The 1983 Code of Canon Law promulgated by John Paul II legislated:
    Canon 844 – §3: Catholic ministers may lawfully administer the sacraments of penance, the Eucharist and anointing of the sick to members of the eastern Churches not in full communion with the Catholic Church, if they spontaneously ask for them and are properly disposed. The same applies to members of other Churches which the Apostolic See judges to be in the same position as the aforesaid eastern Churches so far as the sacraments are concerned.
    Canon 844 – §4: If there is a danger of death or if, in the judgment of the diocesan Bishop or of the Episcopal Conference, there is some other grave and pressing need, Catholic ministers may lawfully administer these same sacraments to other Christians not in full communion with the Catholic Church, who cannot approach a minister of their own community and who spontaneously ask for them, provided they demonstrate the Catholic Faith in respect of these sacraments and are properly disposed.
    This is clearly sacrilegious, especially in regard to the administration of the Holy Eucharist to heretics and schismatics.
    The 1917 Code of Canon Law forbids this sacrilegious practice:
    “It is forbidden to administer the Sacraments of the Church to heretics or schismatics, even though they err in good faith and ask for them, unless they have first renounced their errors and been reconciled with the Church.”
    Administering Communion to heretics and schismatics also presents a serious doctrinal problem. The Res Sacramenti of the Holy Eucharist is the unity or union of the Mystical Body of Christ — the Catholic Church. As the Council of Trent taught:
    “He (Christ) wished it (the Eucharist) furthermore to be a pledge of our future glory and everlasting happiness, and THUS BE A SYMBOL OF THAT ONE BODY OF WHICH HE IS THE HEAD and to which He wished us to be united as members by the closest bond of faith, hope and charity” (Session 13, Chap. 2).
    The errors of religious indifferentism and false ecumenism naturally spawn the false notion of religious liberty.
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  35. Pope Gregory XVI was fully aware of and exposed this in his encyclical Mirari Vos(August 15, 1832):
    “We come now to another cause, alas! all too fruitful of the deplorable ills which today afflict the Church. We mean indifferentism, or that widespread and dangerous opinion sown by the perfidy of the wicked, according to which it is possible, by the profession of some sort of faith, to procure the soul’s salvation, provided that one’s morals conform to the norms of justice and probity. From this poisoned source of indifferentism springs that false and absurd maxim, better termed the insanity(deliramentum), that liberty of conscience must be obtained and guaranteed for everyone. This is the most contagious of errors, which prepares the way for that absolute and totally unrestrained liberty of opinions which, for the ruin of church and State, is spreading everywhere and which certain men, through an excess of impudence, do not fear to put forward as advantageous to religion. Ah, ‘what more disastrous death for souls than the liberty of error,’ said St Augustine.”
    And before him, his predecessor, Pope Pius VII, wrote in his Letter to the Bishop of Troves (1814):
    “Not only does it permit the liberty of cults and of conscience, to cite the very terms of the article, but it promises support and protection to this liberty and, moreover, to the ministers of what are termed the cults….
    “This law does more than establish liberty for all the cults without distinction; it mingles truth with error and places heretical sects and even Judaism on equal terms with the holy and immaculate Bride of Christ outside which there can be no salvation. In addition to this, in promising favor and support to heretical sects and their ministers it is not simply their persons but their errors which are favored and tolerated. This is implicitly the disastrous and ever to be deplored heresy which St. Augustine describes in these terms: ‘It claims that all heretics are on the right path and speak the truth. This is so monstrous an absurdity that I cannot believe that any sect could really profess it’”
    In regard to the term right, Pope Leo XIII taught in Libertas (June 20, 1888):
    “Right is a moral faculty, and as We have said, and it cannot be too often repeated, it would be absurd to believe that it belongs naturally and without distinction to truth and to lies, to good and to evil.”
    And as for the matter of the obligations of governments, Pope Pius XII taught in his address to Catholic lawyers, Ci Riesce (December 6,1953):
    “It must be clearly affirmed that no human authority, no State, no Community of States, of whatever religious character, can give a positive mandate or a positive authorization to teach or to do that which would be contrary to religious truth or moral good… Whatever does not respond to truth and the moral law has objectively no right to existence, nor to propaganda, nor to action.”
    The infiltrators who brought about the apostasy in the Catholic Church did not overlook this concept of religious liberty as a devastating and erroneous consequence of religious indifferentism and false ecumenism.
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  36. Thus, we find promulgated by the Second Vatican Council the decree Dignitatis Humanae (Dec. 7, 1965):
    “Therefore, the right to religious freedom has its foundation, not in the subjective disposition of the person, but in his very nature. In consequence, the right to this immunity continues to exist even in those who do not live up to their obligations of seeking the truth and adhering to it.
    “Religious communities also have the right not to be hindered in their public teaching and witness to their faith, whether by the spoken or written word.
    “In addition, it comes within the meaning of religious freedom that religious communities should not be prohibited from freely undertaking to show the special value of their doctrine in what concerns the organization of society and the inspiration of the whole of human activity.
    “This right of the human person in religious freedom is to be recognized in the constitutional law whereby society is governed; thus it is to become a civil right.”
    It is truly remarkable that the Vatican II decree Dignitatis Humanae promulgated teachings which were explicitly condemned by Pope Pius IX in his Syllabus of Errors:
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    “78. Hence it has been wisely decided by law, in some Catholic countries, that persons coming to reside therein shall enjoy the public exercise of their own peculiar worship.
    “79. Moreover, it is false that the civil liberty of every form of worship, and the full power, given to all, of openly and publicly manifesting any opinions whatsoever and thoughts, conduce more easily to corrupt the morals and minds of the people, and to propagate the pest of indifferentism.”
    To see the consequences of this decree on Religious Liberty, let us look at its effects in Spain. Shortly after the close of the Second Vatican Council, there arose the necessity to update the Concordat between Spain and the Vatican. The following is an excerpt of the new preamble attached to the concordat:
    “The fundamental law of 17 May 1958, in virtue of which Spanish legislation must take its inspiration from the doctrine of the Catholic Church, forms the basis of the present law. Now, as is known, the Second Vatican Council approved the Declaration on Religious Freedom on 7 December 1965, stating in Article 2: ‘The right to religious freedom has its foundation in the very dignity of the human person, as this dignity is known through the revealed word of God, and by reason itself. This right of the human person to religious freedom is to be recognized in the constitutional law whereby society is governed. Thus, it is to become a civil right.’ After this declaration of the Council, the necessity arose of modifying Article 6 of the Spaniards’ Charter in virtue of the aforementioned principle of the Spanish State. This is why the organic law of the State dated 10 January 1967 has modified the aforementioned Article 6 as follows: ‘The profession and practice of the Catholic religion, which is that of the Spanish State, enjoys official protection. The State guarantees the protection of religious liberty, which shall be guaranteed by an effective juridical provision which will safeguard morals and public order.’”
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  37. What was the outcome of this change in the Concordat? From the date of the change, any religious sect was free to proselytize in Catholic Spain. And what followed? With the circulation of all manner of opinions and beliefs, Spain eventually legalized pornography, contraceptives, divorce, sodomy, and abortion.
    This example is by no means just limited to Spain. Other Catholic countries with constitutions and concordats which once prohibited proselytism by religious sects had to change their laws to grant religious freedom to all religions. In Brazil, the National Conference of Brazilian Bishops acknowledges that each year approximately 600,000 Catholics leave the Church to join false religions. And why? The answer is found in the encyclical Mirari Vos by Pope Gregory XVI (1832):
    “This is the most contagious of errors, which prepares the way for that absolute and totally unrestrained liberty of opinions which, for the ruin of Church and State, is spreading everywhere and which certain men, through an excess of impudence, do not fear to put forward as advantageous to religion. ‘Ah, what more disastrous death for souls than the liberty of error,’ said St. Augustine. In seeing thus the removal from men of every restraint capable of keeping them on the paths of truth, led as they already are to their ruin by a natural inclination to evil, We state in truth that the pit of hell is opened from which St John depicted a smoke which obscured the sun and from which locusts emerged to devastate the earth. This is the cause of the lack of intellectual stability; this is the cause of the continually increasing corruption of young people; this is what causes people to despise sacred rights, the most holy objects and laws. This is the cause, in a word, of the most deadly flail which could ravage states; for experience proves, and the most remote antiquity teaches us, that in order to bring about the destruction of the richest, the most powerful, the most glorious and the most flourishing states, nothing is necessary beyond unrestricted liberty of opinion, that freedom of public expression, that infatuation with novelty.”
    To summarize this, the main doctrinal errors promulgated by the Second Vatican Council and previously condemned by the Catholic Church are: religious indifferentism, false ecumenism, and religious liberty.,

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  38. APPENDIX 1 - A Cardinal disqualified as papabili for suspected heresy
    In order to explain what will be presented below, it is necessary to delve into the history behind the bull, Cum ex Apostolatus Officio. Pope Paul IV suspected Cardinal Giovanni Morone of heresy, something to do with the misinterpretation of Scripture. Morone also reportedly had been holding meetings behind the pope’s back to promote himself as Paul IV’s successor even prior to the pope’s death. This prompted Paul IV to write Cum ex. Morone was tried for his heresy and imprisoned. But when Paul IV died, he was back in the running for the papacy. He ran full force, however, into Cardinal Ghislieri, the future Pope St. Pius V. The historian Hergenrother, in his “The History of the Popes” reports that Morone’s campaign as papabili was “quashed by the intervention of Cardinal Ghislieri, who pointedly remarked that Morone’s election would be invalid owing to the question mark hanging over his orthodoxy,” (emph mine). And this is the opinion not only of a great Pope, but of a great saint.
    We also have the following quote from Paul IV himself, provided by author Glenn Kittler: “If I discovered that my own father was a heretic, I would gather the wood to burn him,” Paul IV said. During the trial of Cardinal Morone, Kittler says that Paul IV “decreed that any cardinal accused of heresy could not be elected pope,” (The Papal Princes, pg. 254). And there is to be no exception concerning those who deviated from the faith “secretly” before their election; that is, some heresy that was committed pre-election but became public only after the election. They too are automatically deposed. Here we have a perfect reflection of the mind of the lawgiver concerning an election, worth its weight in gold. In response to Morone’s attempt to promote himself as pope, Paul IV also penned the apostolic constitution Cum secundum Apostolum, on December 15 or 16, 1559. The constitution decreed extreme penalties against those who discuss the election of the future pope, behind the back and without permission of his predecessor while he is still alive, a crime now visited by Pius XII with the highest possible excommunication on the books: a latae sententiae penalty reserved in a most special manner to the Holy See. This means that only the pope can dispense from such a censure
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  39. None of this would be pertinent to the present case were it not for the fact that Roncalli is reported to have done exactly as Morone did, and by two separate sources. According to C. Leroux, he had plenty of time to plot his course as “pope.” Leroux writes, quoting a French work called Echoes of the Supernatural: “As to the Council, I wrote to Cardinal Roncalli, (former Nuncio to Paris, to whom I was an advisor) on Aug. 14, 1954, to announce his future election (to the papacy)…I asked for a meeting with him…to study his first work, the Council.” In the work “Nikita Roncalli,” written in the 1970’s but not published until the 1990s, Italian author Franco Belligrande states: “The election of the patriarch of Venice at the Conclave of 1958 was known in advance… Cardinal Eugenio Tisserant [wrote] to an abbot professor of Canon Law, in which the French cardinal declares illegal the election of John XXIII, because [it was] ‘wanted’ and ‘arranged’ by forces ‘extraneous’ of the Holy Spirit,” (Cfr. “Vita” of September 18, 1977 pg. 4 “Le profezie sui papi nell’elenco di San Malachia”, by “Il Minutante”). It is impossible to escape the conclusion that having actually succeeded in attaining election, unlike Morone, Roncalli (also Montini) became what Paul IV identifies as “the abomination of desolation standing in the holy place” — a usurper gaining control of the Holy See after professing pre-election heresy and unlawfully campaigning for election.
    Canon 2330 reads: “With regard to the penalties enacted against offenses which may be committed in the election of a Roman Pontiff, the only law to be considered is the Constitution of Pope Pius X…(Commentary by Revs. Woywod-Smith: “The Constitution ‘Vacantis Apostolica Sedis,’ of Pope Pius XII, December 8, 1945 revised and supplanted the constitution of Pope Pius X…The name of Pope Pius XII should now be substituted in the Canon in the place of Pope Pius X…) All of these excommunications are reserved to the Supreme Pontiff so that nobody, (not even the Major Penitentiary), can absolve them except in danger of death. These excommunications are as follows: …(6) The discussion of a successor to the Roman Pontiff while he is sill living and without consulting him; the promise to vote for such future candidate; and all deliberations and discussion on this subject at private gatherings, (V.A.S. no. 93)…” And no. (8): “Agreements, compacts, promises or any other obligations made or assumed by Cardinals which may restrict their freedom of voting or not voting for some one or several candidates, (V.A.S. no. 95).”

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  40. A footnote to this canon states that the sentences are most likely latae sententiae, and cannot be absolved from in urgent cases (Can. 2254) in the absence of a true pope. This is because Can. 2330 itself states that only the constitution governs the censures exclusively, not the Code, papal election law being considered special law. Because there is no Pope, during an interregnum the one in question would need to wait until the election is concluded for the absolution and in the meantime could not be elected. Rev. Anscar Parsons, O.F.M, in his work: “Canonical Elections,” (Catholic Univ. of America, 1939) notes that those considered unfit or unworthy of election are “those who are legally infamous or laboring under censure [also] notorious apostates, schismatics…public sinners and persons whose conduct is sinful or scandalous.” Roncalli qualifies on all counts. It should be noted here that Can. 2314§3 declares those who have participated in non-Catholic services as infamous, resulting from the excommunication incurred for heresy, apostasy or schism. Communism and Freemasonry both are considered as non-Catholic (apostate) sects, and Roncalli at least favored them. This encouraging and favoring is further condemned in sec. 5 of Cum ex… as follows:
    “All and sundry Bishops, Archbishops, Patriarchs, Primates, Cardinals…who in the past have, as mentioned above, strayed or fallen into heresy or have been apprehended, have confessed or been convicted of incurring, inciting or committing schism or who, in the future, shall stray or fall into heresy or shall incur, incite or commit schism or shall be apprehended, confess or be convicted of straying or falling into heresy or of incurring, inciting or committing schism, being less excusable than others in such matters, in addition to the sentences, censures and penalties mentioned above, (all these persons) are also automatically and without any recourse to law or action, completely and entirely, forever deprived of, and furthermore disqualified from and incapacitated for their rank…Further, whoever knowingly presumes in any way to receive anew the persons so apprehended, confessed or convicted, or to favor them, believe them, or teach their doctrines shall ipso facto incur excommunication, and, become infamous.”
    Moreover, Morone’s state as at least suspect of heresy/schism is included in sec. 6 of Pope Paul IV’s bull as well. For at the end of this section he states:
    “The persons themselves so promoted and elevated shall, ipso facto and without need for any further declaration, be deprived of any dignity, position, honor, title, authority, office and power, [without any exception as regards those who might have been promoted or elevated before they deviated from the faith, became heretics, incurred schism, or committed or encouraged any or all of these.]” Notice that “deviated from the faith” is separated from actual heresy or schism, indicating that it is a separate offense suggestive of these yet not actually heresy or schism per se. This would include suspicion of heresy, those things proximate to heresy or those things “smacking” of heresy. And here also we see that this extends to those who encourage these acts, even though they may not be guilty of such acts themselves. Because the laws on heresy are in question today, Cum ex… is the prevailing law, and must be followed to the letter.
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  41. Other disqualifiers for papal election
    Because Roncalli apparently participated in planning for his future election, he was never eligible for election as pope. His election was invalid because he was an unworthy candidate. In ecclesiastical elections, only the most worthy candidate is to be elected. An unworthy candidate is one who lacks any quality required by law, and the lack of such a quality would be the ipso facto excommunication (for heresy) and canonical deposition attached to it incurred by Roncalli for promoting Communism. Although censures do not apply to cardinals under the 1917 Code, remember we have a doubt, and that doubt requires us to use Can. 6§4 as the prevailing law in this case. Cardinals are definitely mentioned as capable of incurring such heresies in Cum ex… And in ecclesiastical elections, even when the candidate is not a heretic, “The election is automatically invalid, only if the lacking quality is required for the validity of the election… of an unworthy candidate.” (Disqualification of Electors in Ecclesiastical Elections,” Reverend Timothy Mock, p. 135.) Pope Pius XII’s constitution on papal elections states that deposed cardinals may not participate in the election; they have forfeited their office as cardinal. The censure of Can. 2314 also states that they incur the deposition mentioned in Can. 188§4, already governed by Cum ex… as the old law. And only cardinals can vote in a papal election. In his Canonical Elections, Reverend Anscar Parsons tells us above that Roncalli is already classified in this category as unfit for election, and while a legitimate election devoid of any doubts concerning the faith of the candidate would nullify certain instances of unworthiness, this does not apply to heresy.
    Even if Roncalli had only created scandal prior to his election, he would have thus qualified as an unworthy candidate. Prior to the elections in chapters of religious, “…each and every member must take an oath to vote for those only for whom he believes before God he should vote.” (Canon 506, No. 1.) Similarly, cardinals also take an oath before depositing their ballots.
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  42. This oath, con¬tained in Pius XII’s Vacanti’s Apostolica Sedis,” reads: “I call to witness Christ the Lord, Who will judge me, that I choose the man that, according to God, I conclude ought to be elected.” What is not understood at all here is that once Roncalli was “elected,” given his heretical unworthiness, all cardinals taking part in the election lost their right to posit another election under Canon 2391, no. 1. This Canon reads: “A college which knowingly elects an unworthy person is automatically deprived, for that particular election of the right to hold a new election.” Reverend Parsons comments: “…in normal cases it is presumed that the chapter made its choice with full deliberation and knowledge, because it is their duty to investigate the qualities of the person whom they elect … if the majority elect someone who is unworthy, all the voters even those who are innocent are deprived of the right to vote in this instance.” (p. 197.) Reverend Mock agrees with Par¬sons, writing: “…the burden of proof …will be upon the elec¬tors to show that they did not know of the defect in the candidate. The electors are presumed to know the qualifi¬cations required by law.” (p. 137.) As public as Roncalli’s behavior was, it is difficult to imagine that the cardinals would not have been able to demonstrate this fact.

    Most of the same cardinals who elected Roncalli elected Paul 6, yet they were barred from positing another election. Parsons comments on this canon: “Is the election of an unworthy person void from the beginning? It seem that it is, for the law says that the chapter deprived of the right to proceed to ‘a new election.’ In making this disposition, the legislator seems to suppose that the original choice was null and void.” And Rev. Parsons assures readers in his work that there is no doubt the laws governing ecclesiastical elections apply here, for he writes: “The election of the Holy Father has been the prototype for the election of inferior prelates.” In the end Roncalli was unworthy because he was a heretic, and this we have on the authority of Pope Paul IV’s infallible Bull. But what results is the most important part. For both Paul IV’s “Cum ex…” and Can. 2391 no. 1 relieve us of he responsibility of determining whether or not those elected after Pope Pius XII were possibly valid. Cum ex… tells us concerning those appointed by heretics who appear to possess an office:
    “Every one of their statements, deeds, enactments, and administrative acts, of any kind, and any result thereof whatsoever, shall be without force and shall confer no legality or right on anyone. The persons themselves so promoted and elevated shall, ipso facto and without need for any further declaration, be deprived of any dignity, position, honor, title, authority, office and power, [without any exception as regards those who might have been promoted or elevated before they deviated from the faith, became heretics, incurred schism, or committed or encouraged any or all of these.]”
    And Can. 2391 rejects all those electing an unworthy person even should a new election be held. Add to this the fact that Vacantis Apostolica Sedis declares null and void any acts performed even by Cardinals requiring papal jurisdiction during the interregnum, (and this would include lifting the censures reserved to the Roman Pontiff) and the election is null and void for usurping papal jurisdiction. So the question on whether the censures for discussing the election prior to the death of the pope has answered itself.

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  43. The use of these canons on ecclesiastical elections is in compliance with Can. 18, which tells us that if there is still some question concerning the meaning of the words in the current law (Vacantis Apostolic Sedis, which does not mention the unworthy per se in the constitution,) one then is to have recourse first to the old law, and we see above from Parsons that old papal election law was used to create the laws on ecclesiastical elections. So the laws on canonical elections already reflect the practice in the history of the Church concerning papal elections. But if any doubts remain, Can. 18 states that one is to consult parallel passages of the Code, the purpose of the law and its circumstances and the intention of the lawgiver. This we did above concerning Pope Paul IV’s intent in writing Cum ex. The laws on ecclesiastical elections are the only parallel passages in the Code which treat of elections at all. The Catholic Encyclopedia, in the article on elections, also designated the election of an unworthy candidate as invalid. The one elected must be a Catholic, as St. Robert Bellarmine teaches, for it is not possible that one not a Catholic could rule the Church.
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  44. “This principle is most certain. The non-Christian cannot in any way be Pope, as Cajetan himself admits (ib. c. 26). The reason for this is that he cannot be head of what he is not a member; now he who is not a Christian is not a member of the Church, and a manifest heretic is not a Christian, as is clearly taught by St. Cyprian (lib. 4, epist. 2), St. Athanasius (Scr. 2 cont. Arian.), St. Augustine (lib. de great. Christ. cap. 20), St. Jerome (contra Lucifer.) and others; therefore the manifest heretic cannot be Pope,” (De Romano Pontifice, lib. II, cap. 30). St. Robert then goes onto explain what happens when it appears a man has become a heretic: “Then two years later came the lapse of Liberius, of which we have spoken above. Then indeed the Roman clergy, stripping Liberius of his pontifical dignity, went over to Felix, whom they knew [then] to be a Catholic. From that time, Felix began to be the true Pontiff. For although Liberius was not a heretic, nevertheless he was considered one, on account of the peace he made with the Arians, and by that presumption the pontificate could rightly [merito] be taken from him: for men are not bound, or able to read hearts; but when they see that someone is a heretic by his external works, they judge him to be a heretic pure and simple [simpliciter], and condemn him as a heretic.”
    The presumption that St. Robert speaks of above is that stated in Can. 2200: “The evil will spoken of in Can. 2199 means a deliberate will to violate the law and presupposes on the part of the mind a knowledge of the law and on the part of the will freedom of action. Given the external violation of the law, the evil will is presumed in the external forum until the contrary is proven.” Revs. Woywod-Smith comment on this canon: “The rule here stated is evidently necessary for the public welfare.” Who has ever presented proof that Roncalli was a loyal supporter of Pope Pius XII and was NOT a heretic? He condemns himself out of his own mouth both pre-election and in “Pacem in Terris,” leaving no doubt whatsoever concerning his intentions prior to election. Therefore, Pope Paul IV states, he was never validly elected. And while some will object that only the Roman clergy could oust an antipope, we must remember that we are bound now to the old law of Pope Paul IV. In that law, of which St. Robert Bellarmine was fully aware, Paul IV states: “For the greater confusion of persons thus promoted and elevated, if they attempt to continue their government and administration, all may implore the aid of the secular arm against those so advanced and elevated.” So the laity may both implore and facilitate the removal of antipopes. When they did not demand, after becoming aware that Cum ex… existed, that the remaining clergy posit an election when they still could have done so (even if this meant the clergy elected a true pope outside of Rome) the laity and clergy both sealed the fate of the Church, although there is no doubt that God wished this to be the time spoken of in Holy Scripture for the coming of the abomination of desolation.
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  45. APPENDIX 2 - Heresy: The Sin vs. the Crime SOME WRITERS have raised the following objection: No one can become a true heretic unless Church authority first warns or admonishes him that he is rejecting a dogma. Only after that does he have the “pertinacity” (stubbornness in false belief) required for heresy. No one issued warnings to the post-Conciliar popes about their errors, so they are not pertinacious. Thus they cannot be true heretics. This argument confuses a distinction that canonists make between two aspects of heresy: (1) Moral: Heresy as a sin (peccatum) against divine law. (2) Canonical: Heresy as a crime (delictum) against canon law. The moral/canonical distinction is easy to grasp by applying it to abortion. There are two aspects under which we can consider abortion: (1) Moral: Sin against the 5th Commandment that results in the loss of sanctifying grace. (2) Canonical: Crime against canon 2350.1 of the Code of Canon Law that results in automatic excommunication. In the case of heresy, warnings only come into play for the canonical crime of heresy. These are not required as a condition for committing the sin of heresy against the divine law. The canonist Michel draws the clear distinction for us: “Pertinacity does not of necessity include long obstinacy by the heretic and warnings from the Church. A condition for the sin of heresy is one thing; a condition for the canonical crime of heresy, punishable by canon laws, is another.” (Michel, “Hérésie,” in DTC 6:2222) It is a pope’s public sin of heresy in this sense that strips him of Christ’s authority. “If indeed such a situation would happen,” said the canonist Coronata. “he [the Roman Pontiff] would, by divine law, fall from office without any sentence.” (See above)
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  46. APPENDIX 3 – On Coronata and the papal bull Cum Ex Apostolatus Officio
    It is claimed by both non-sedevacantists, and by proponents of the Thesis of Cassciacum, that the canonist coronata claimed the following – “non viget amplius Constit. Pauli IV ‘Cum ex Apostolatus Officio’ 15 febr. 1559”, that is: “the Constitution Cum ex Apostolatus Officio of Paul IV, dating from February 15th, 1559, is no longer in force.”. And yes, this is true. HOWEVER, this completely misses the context of what coronata was saying. Coronata never had the intention to say that th part regarding heretics and the papal office is somehow not in force, rather we can see that coronata saw this fact as divine law which could never be abrogated, as shown by this quote - Matthaeus Conte a Coronata (1950) “III. Appointment to the office of the Primacy [i.e. papacy]. “1° What is required by divine law for this appointment: (a) It is required that the appointment be of a man who possesses the use of reason — and this at least because of the ordination the Primate must receive to possess the power of Holy Orders. Indeed, this is required for the validity of the appointment. “Also required for validity is that the appointment be of a member of the Church. Heretics and apostates (at least public ones) are therefore excluded.”… “2° Loss of office of the Roman Pontiff. This can occur in various ways:… “c) Notorious heresy. Certain authors deny the supposition that the Roman Pontiff can indeed become a heretic. “It cannot be proven however that the Roman Pontiff, as a private teacher, cannot become a heretic — if, for example, he would contumaciously deny a previously defined dogma. Such impeccability was never promised by God. Indeed, Pope Innocent III expressly admits such a case is possible. “If indeed such a situation would happen, he [the Roman Pontiff] would, by divine law, fall from office without any sentence, indeed, without even a declaratory one. He who openly professes heresy places himself outside the Church, and it is not likely that Christ would preserve the Primacy of His Church in one so unworthy. Wherefore, if the Roman Pontiff were to profess heresy, before any condemnatory sentence (which would be impossible anyway) he would lose his authority.” Institutiones Iuris Canonici. Rome: Marietti 1950. 1:312, 316. (My emphasis.)
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  47. APPENDIX 4 - IF THE POST-VATICAN II popes are not true popes, how might the Church one day get a true pope again? Here are some theories: 1. Direct Divine Intervention. This scenario is found in the writings of some approved mystics. 2. The Material/Formal Thesis. This holds that should a postVatican II pope publicly renounce the heresies of the postConciliar Church, he would automatically become a true pope. 3. An Imperfect General Council. The theologian Cajetan (1469– 1534) and others teach that, should the College of Cardinals become extinct, the right to elect a pope would devolve to the clergy of Rome, and then to the universal Church. (de Comparatione 13, 742, 745) Each of these seems to present some difficulties. But this should not be surprising, because the precise solution to an unusual problem in the Church cannot always be predicted beforehand. This can be seen from the following comment in the 1913 Catholic Encyclopedia: “No canonical provisions exist regulating the authority of the College of Cardinals sede Romanâ impeditâ, i.e. in case the pope became insane, or personally a heretic; in such cases it would be necessary to consult the dictates of right — 15 — reason and the teachings of history.” (“Cardinal,” CE 3:339) Moreover, an inability at present to determine exactly how another true pope would be chosen in the future does not somehow make Paul VI and his successors into true popes by default. Nor does it change what we already know: that the postConciliar popes promulgated errors, heresies and evil laws; that a heretic cannot be a true pope; and that promulgating evil laws is incompatible with possessing authority from Jesus Christ. To insist despite this that the post-Conciliar popes must be true popes creates an insoluble problem for the indefectibility of the Church — Christ’s representatives teach error and give evil. Whereas a long vacancy of the Holy See, as noted throughout this piece, is not contrary to the indefectibility or the nature of the Church.

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  48. Appendix 5 – Refutation of the claim that canon 199.5 is not subject to epikeia, or in other words that it precludes our current generation of sedevacantist bishops from being subdelegated ordinary jurisdiction. - Canon 199.5 of the 1917 Code of Canon Law states - “No subdelegated power can be subdelegated again, unless this was expressly granted.” Now one might presume that this obliterates our sedevacantist case, however it does not, Canon 199.5 is in fact subject to epikeia, for According to Suárez, epikeia may be used in three cases: (1) when the observance of the law would be sinful by reason of a higher law, epikeia is obligatory; (2) when compliance with the law demands heroism and effort out of proportion to the purpose of the law, epikeia may be used; (3) when particular circumstances unforeseen by the legislator would indicate that it was not his mind or intention to bind the subject, epikeia may be used. Some modern theologians follow Suárez, but others restrict epikeia solely to the third instance wherein it is purely a question of the mind of the legislator (epikeia in the strict sense). In the first and second instances (epikeia in the wide sense) it is beyond the power of the legislator to bind his subjects. With regard to epikeia in the strict sense, the question of recourse to the legislator is discussed. The general tenor of the teaching is that in cases where there is probability, but no certainty, epikeia may not be used if recourse is possible. This however does not present a problem to us as we re discussing the third case, which is that “(3) when particular circumstances unforeseen by the legislator would indicate that it was not his mind or intention to bind the subject, epikeia may be used.” Now we know that in a period of sedevacante there would in fact be absence of a lawmaker, and we know that canon 199.5 would case a grave harm to the church if we were still bound to it, this being that our current generation of bishops would lack ordinary jurisdiction, which while noted that the mark of apostolicity does behave differently under the state of sedevacante according to some theologians, would still be gravely wrong and could be argued impossible. The church can never be without the mark of Formal Apostolicity.
    The absence of a ruling Pope fundamentally changes the nature of the problem. The presence of the legislator allows some discussions and arrangements with regard to the law: whoever has the slightest knowledge of Canon Law, or any kind of human law, knows that anything which does not proceed directly from natural law or divine law is open for dispense, can be reformed and is applied differently depending on the circumstances. Too many Catholics have an incorrect idea of Canon Law: they see it as a kind of absolute divine law that automatically punishes whoever deviates ever so slightly from it. It is not.
    The question of knowing whether or not it is prudent to dispense oneself of a law, in the absence of a legislator who could legally grant the dispensation, can have different answers depending on the context and depending on one’s judgment. But it is certain that in principle, the mere choice of not following a law in the absence of the legislator is not in all cases a disobedience and an arbitrary whim. It all depends on the context and the seriousness of the reasons which would cause, in normal times, one to ask for a dispensation, or that would cause the letter of the law to become dangerous. Now nobody could, in the right mind still hold this objection that canon 199.5 is not subject to epikeia.


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  49. once again i will post the suplementary note for my big spiel

    i got a lot of the information directly from fr cekada and the cmri website just as a citation i had compiled it as a word document. i dont take any credit for the information presented, i only compiled it.

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      I published your compilation because it comes from good sources and is interesting. Please note that I will not be posting further such comments which become like a second post.

      God Bless,

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  50. Does God ask this of us? Endless studying (especially in times of false info), compiling etc. Granted I spend most my time on this as well I am starting to think I am obsessed and have let my business flail. I am a single woman no less with no one to care for me. It is all scary and I find new evidence daily of new lies, old lies, etc. Can anyone provide 1000% proof the Bible was not manipulated by evil agents?

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    1. @anon6:03
      The rise of disinformation leads to where we are today; laden with conspiracy theories and people doubting the Moon landing and thinking the Earth is flat among other nonsense. I may do a post on the reliability of the Bible.

      In this comment, let me say this: What proof is there that the Bible WAS tampered with by others? What you have is a negative doubt. Put another way, would you suspect your best friend of having committed murder? Why not? She could have done so and got away with it. In the absence of evidence to the contrary why WOULD you believe such? It would be irrational.

      You have many reasons to believe she wouldn't do such a horrible thing. For example, she is kind, non-violent, does works of charity, prays and goes to Church, has an excellent reputation, was never in trouble with the law, etc.

      Likewise, we have the infallible testimony of the Church that the Bible is as it always was. The Bible matches up with secular history and ancient historians like Josephus.
      Sacred Tradition bears witness to the Bible and its teachings uninterruptedly since the time of Christ. The Dead Sea Scrolls were basically word for word as the Bible today minus some different spellings of names and such which alter nothing.

      So we have no reason to doubt the Bible was tampered with, and if someone gives a reason, it can be examined under scrutiny. Don't worry about hypotheticals without substance.

      God Bless,

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    2. Thanks for this comment! Well, I have read that freemasons did change the Bible in the 1400s. We have many false bibles today in existence, even on the Vatican website.

      I know many who have killed their unborn children at their own admission. Some people regret and most don't. So I guess the friend/murderer analogy doesn't help me much. I guess I am also saying I don't think this is purely a negative doubt. So I would love to read whatever you would write about reliability of the Bible. I had one Novus Ordo pal say that characters like MCCarrick could have written the Bible for all she knows. Seems most Novus Ordites I know read the King James version!

      From the research I have done, the moon landing did not take place. Covid was not a virus, as there are no viruses. Germ theory was never proven. These so called illnesses/deaths align with electricity/technology/5g towers, the poisoning of the air food and water supplies, the cumulative effect of poison vaccines, etc. Tons of evidence out there that most ignore. Our govt is quite evil. Most are. The New World Order/One World Religion is being executed at a fast pace by World govts, globalists, religious leaders, the Vatican, communists/freemasons. All is quite scary these days so...Thanks for this blog and commenting!

      What is a good True Mass online? My one friend who left Novus Ordo sent me a link to Don Minutella, which is NO priest who only resisted francis...so even people who do escape NO are still attached in some way. Sadly she also believes Medjugorje because she went there many times and the false divine mercy devotion. So sad the.many many deceptions for so long...the novus ordo isn't the only scam being orchestrated by freemasons. There have been many before and after Christ. They just had different names.
      Thank you. God bless.

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    3. Also, in all my research I also found the sede vacante position. I hope it is the right position but I do not know for sure either, as it is also considered a conspiracy theory. It makes.more sense than the other positions. But Faith is also a mystery so...
      And within the group of sedevacantists there are many confusing people, like Sanborn and his thesis. No wonder the average person trying to earn a living in this evil world can't find a clue! I just don't think thr True Faith is supposed to be this hard, so something seems wrong or off to me. Or times are so evil beyond our comprehension...not just the novus ordo abomination...all of.it, every sphere of life as we know it.

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      I'm sorry that you seem to have fallen for the "Matrix Conspiracy Theory" (as I call it) where all reality is not as it seems. You read that Freemasons changed the Bible in the 1400s. Who wrote that and what evidence do they give? Wouldn't the Infallible Church be able to prevent that with a true pope? When you say "false bibles" do you mean "mistranslations" (agreed) or the bible is false because of Freemasons?

      You knw many who killed their unborn children by abortion and don't egret it. Ok. What does that prove? In my comment above I was talking about the murder of an adult because abortion can be done so as to prevent seeing the victim.

      From the research I have done, the moon landing did not take place. Covid was not a virus, as there are no viruses. Germ theory was never proven.

      Ok. What constitutes this "research"? What authorities can you cite besides whacky conspiracy theorists? There are some saying Pope Pius IX was a secret Freemason. Some claim to have a "ton of information" that the Jews made up Jesus Christ to weaken the Gentiles and make them weak for "turn the other cheek" morality.

      I hope you see what you're doing to yourself and you'll be less anxious. Praying for you.

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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    5. introibo. this isnt some consipracy theory most of the points brought up are true


      The moon is not terra firma.
      Germ theory was never proven and thus isnt a theory proper.

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    6. @anon3:00
      Ok, let me state this: whether you believe in the moon landing, germ theory, Bigfoot, or think Elvis is still alive--none of these beliefs (or lack of belief) has anything to do with being a good Traditionalist Catholic. You can believe in Bigfoot or not, and your acceptance or denial of its existence is neither heresy nor sinful.

      Believe as you like as long as it doesn't run contrary to the Faith. It is the Faith that is the subject of this blog.

      God Bless,

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    7. The Magisterium would not allow the Bible to be tampered with. Any more than any of the doctrines of the Church. Otherwise the Church erred.

      It's AI which today may tamper with things, causing perhaps a "Mandela Effect" of gaslighting. Keep hard copies and cd/dvd backups.

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    8. Correct, not conspiracies noted above. I also find it sad so many who can actually find the novus ordo lie are not clued in to much. I did find a sede priest who knows much, including the USA Inc scam. Thank God I found one!

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    9. Good! Well, no "virus" has ever been isolated. A Good doctor has explained that a so called virus comes from within. It is the body's way of cleaning out toxins. IT IS NOT SOMETHING WE CATCH, it is a detox event. All disease is a toxic event. Good book resources are the Poisoked Needle from 1950s and the Contagion Myth. You can also go far back...they knew the "Spanish flu"was not contagious. Vaxxes killed people. Our govts poison us and globalists. Here is a great quote I saw recently...
      "Putting aborted fetal cells in vaccines falls into the same category as putting monkey kidney tissue in vaccines. We're dealing with an ancient black magic satanic death cult that laughs at us as we inject our own ground up babies and other black magic concoctions into ourselves and our children. We passed clinical insanity a long time ago. Anyone believing that any of this is legitimate science, is literally clinically insane. It's black magic. So they're saying that we need to kill our own children and inject that material into ourselves to stay immune? Really? Turn off the TV, stop listening to the highly paid assassins in the white butcher coats, start thinking a little harder and start recognizing pure evil when you see it...."

      Jason Christoff
      I understand this blog about faith but all of these other lies play a role in all our lives. One should be mote aware IMO.

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  51. Introibo

    As an addition to my above comment.

    He was responsible for the appointments of homo pervert "bishops" like McElroy who are rejoicing at his election.His own blood brother said he will follow in the footsteps of Francis.Much info is coming out about his coverup and payout of $150000 to silent sex abuse victims in South America.The list could go on and on.

    As our friend TradWarrior always reminds us very few see the TRUTH.

    Years ago attending SSPX Masses,folk said to me all we need is the Mass.Don't worry about the rest.I said are you serious.You can get to Heaven without the Mass but you can't get to Heaven without the FAITH.It is frighting the beliefs of some so-called Trad Catholics.Look at the deluded fools like Michael Matt who is praising Leo XIV.Some ways it is funny but very sad.Why can't people fight.

    Keep up the great work brother

    TradSedeCath,New Zealand

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      Excellent comment. Thank you!

      God Bless,

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  52. Introibo and Readers

    There is an excellent new writing on Louie Verrecchio's website -akacatholic.com about Leo XIV.He hits the nail on the head about this impostor

    TradSedeCath,NZ

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  53. “Pope Pius XII forbade, in most precise language, priests from using the previous liturgy any longer. He also condemned antiquarianism, the practice of returning to earlier liturgical practices not in conformity with current rubrics and ecclesiastical laws, for such a reversal would imply that the Holy Ghost does not actively guide the Church. Older is not always better, especially when in defiance to the orders of a true pope.

    Our motive for following the liturgical changes of Pope Pius XII is the infallible teaching authority of the Church. The changes were authorized by an infallible Vicar of Christ and were officially promulgated to replace previously existing rites and laws. Since Pope Pius XII was a true pope, we must obey his commands regarding the sacred liturgy. Obedience is the safest, most consistent and orthodox course.

    On the other hand, those who accept Pius XII as a true pope while refusing to accept his liturgical decrees, demonstrate defiance and disobedience. By picking and choosing what they will accept, they set themselves up as the supreme authority of the Catholic Church. They claim the right to judge the pope, sift what he teaches and decide what they will obey and what they will reject. It is wrong to pick and choose what to obey and what to discard. It is a mark of rebellion to refuse obedience to a true Vicar of Christ; rebellion in matters of obedience to legitimate authority is always a danger to the Faith”. - Fr. Dominic Radecki CMRI from the article entitled “May a Catholic Reject Laws Promulgated by a Legitimate Pope?”

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      I agree with Fr. Radecki's conclusion, yet he does not directly address the SSPV arguments (and those of Fr. Cekada). I think he judges them as harshly as they judge him--and in that both have no authority to do so.

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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  54. Introibo,

    Great job on another great article! I would say it’s one of your best, but then again you have so many bests!

    TradSedeCath, New Zealand – thank you for the reference in your comment to what I said about how so few people see the Truth.

    -TradWarrior

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  55. Answers in Genesis (website/YouTube Channel), has some very good arguments against The Big Bang Theory. I would recommend it. After watching a few of those videos anyone who believes in the humanist/naturalist/man made theory of The Big Bang would just be plain irrational.

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    1. @anon9:18
      "Answers in Genesis" is run by a Fundamentalist Protestant, Ken Ham, who thinks the Catholic Church is not Christian but diabolical, and reads all Scripture literally.

      I warn everyone, including, you to stay away. Do you also believe in Sola Scriptura and the Catholic Church is evil, like Mr. Ham? Who will you believe has the real answers to interpreting Genesis---Ken Ham or Pope Pius XII?

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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    2. Stephen C. Meyer is a Protestant by all indications, which would mean a rejection of The Catholic Faith. Yet you believe in his theistic evolution idea. If an atheist says 2+2 = 4, you don’t say “he’s atheist” stay away. You say he’s right on that point. I never said the website is full proof and that the people involved were True Christians, I said there were good arguments made refuting The Big Bang Theory. Many of the ideas refuting The Big Bang Theory are found in Church teaching. Genesis, 4th Lateran Council, Church Fathers, Council of Trent. I reject Protestantism, but I also reject the absurd Big Bang Theory and theistic evolution as does The Church in Scripture and Dogma. I don’t follow Ken Ham. I follow the hard science, not pseudo science, Holy Scripture and Dogma. Pope Pius XII was in error on the billions year old earth and other scientistic views. Period.

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    3. The Discovery Institute is a secular Think Tank, with many mainline Protestants associated with the organization, along with Stephen C. Meyer, who you support as a theistic evolutionist. The Discovery Institute talked about how great the Protestant “Reformation” (Revolt) was in an article by Scott Powell. There are many Protestants who support your false and absurd idea of theistic evolution. I know you like to say you stick to Pope Pius XII on the issue, who was in error in his fallible capacity, but you also mentioned Stephen C. Meyer as someone you think is credible on the issue who is associated and contributes with a think tank that supports Protestant views. There will be Protestants that support Creation and Theistic Evolution. It doesn’t necessarily mean you endorse their heretical ideas if you reference a video that refutes The Big Bang or supports your theistic evolution point of view. I wouldn’t accuse you of being a Protestant or Protestant sympathizer if you watched a video on theistic evolution made by Protestants and Protestant sympathizers. The idea is not compatible with Church teaching but that doesn’t mean you are necessarily a Lutheran. I will say that Answers in Genesis is a site that should be avoided, I will use other sources going forward to support The Catholic Teaching on Creation and refuting Theistic Evolution. And I retract the video/site recommendation because watching one or two videos on The Big Bang could lead people astray if they dig deeper into their other heretical views.

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    4. I believe the 4th Lateran Council, Church Fathers, and The Roman Catechism when it comes to the literal and historical account of creation and genesis. You are inserting Ken Ham in as a straw man and non-sequitor. You believe that if someone refers to an organization started by a heretic merely to point out a few of their views about the literal account of creation in Genesis and to point to their arguments against the bogus big bang theory, that somehow this means that the person mentioning the site/video holds the heretical Sola Scriptura position. Very dishonest on your part. As you know, many passages in The Bible are to be read literally, Genesis is one of those areas, this has nothing to do with Sola Scriptura it has to do with scriptural exegesis. Make some better arguments without using logical fallacies and derogatory insinuations against Catholics who hold the truth about creation and reject theistic evolution because it’s absurd. Pope Pius XII was completely wrong on theistic evolution. Nevertheless, I do agree it’s necessary for Catholics to stay away from Protestant material as a whole, since Protestants are not Christian and are heretics.

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    5. @anon8:14
      I am not committing the genetic fallacy in logic. Yes, Ken Ham can say true things. However, he disingenuously twists the science to make it fit his Fundamentalist Protestant theology. As the operator of this blog, I must warn people (especially those new to the Faith) about sites that could undermine their faith.

      Fred and Bobby Dimond have some true information on their site, but unless someone is strong in the Faith, you shouldn't go visit it. Their Feeneyite heresy pervades all they do.

      ---Introibo

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    6. @anon8:14
      I must also state that Genesis, 4th Lateran Council, Church Fathers, Council of Trent have all been found compatible with an Old Earth by Pope St. Pius X.

      ---Introibo

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    7. @anon1:11
      You write: "Make some better arguments without using logical fallacies and derogatory insinuations against Catholics who hold the truth about creation and reject theistic evolution because it’s absurd."

      Reply: I'm not arguing against young earthism because of Ken Ham. I offered the decision of the Pontifical Biblical Commission approved and promulgated as bining on all Catholics by Pope St. Pius X, and the unanimous consent of the approved theologians since the time of Pope St. Pius X.

      ---Introibo

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  56. I have just reading info about Prevost wearing the pectoral cross of Bernardin for years.Joseph Bernardin was "bishop" of Chicago who went there in 1982 the year Prevost was "ordained"
    Bernardin was a sodomite predator and his victims said the abuse had a ritual/occult Satanic nature to it.
    Cupich who is a homo pal of Prevost was instrumental in covering up of the abuse for McCarrick and getting McElroy appointed to Washington DC

    God bless
    TradSedeCath,NZ

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    1. TradSedeCath,
      Chicago has been a hot bed of immorality for some time. Prevost is the "papal" version of Bernardin/Cupich.

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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  57. We wonder Introibo what first ecumenical encounter with the other false religions will be?Do you think he will worship with the Jews in the next few weeks in Rome?

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      He'll do some ecumenical abomination. Exactly what that is, I don't know. I'm sure he'll worship with the Jews (and every other false religion) at some point soon!

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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  58. How can you support theistic evolution and consider yourself Catholic? You make excuses for Georges Lemaitre and say he was anti modernist but yet he was a Cartesian (follows general philosophy of Descartes), and since red shift wrongly says universe is expanding, the pseudo scientists of the time extrapolated backyard and came up with the pathetic idea that all matter was concentrated into an atom smaller than a proton and then just burst.

    Saint Isaac The Syrian - “God, solely, by His good will, suddenly brought everything from non-being into being, and everything stood before Him in perfection”.

    One of many quotes by early Church fathers which support the historical and sacred account of Genesis which says everything came to existence by God’s Will in six days, not 13.8 billion years. Some held that it happened instantaneously like Saint Augustine.

    To draw different conclusions that are opposed to divine revelation on how we were created is a type of blasphemy.

    The Bible and Tradition, including The Roman Catechism teach that God created all things in the beginning, not some things, all things. People today think Genesis is poetry. But it is exact and literal history.

    Do you know who Teilhard De Chardin is? He supported theistic evolution. He had some very wicked ideas indeed.

    Fourth Lateran Council (1215) “God by His own omnipotent power at once from the beginning of time created each creature, the spiritual and the corporeal and then man” All creatures were created at the beginning, there is no such thing as creation over the course of eons.

    Modern cosmology is bad philosophy and the idea you put forward that living things lived and died before Adam’s sin is totally false and The Bible proves that this idea about death existing in the world before Adam is false it’s in Romans, Saint Paul.



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    1. @anon7:45
      I support non-Darwinian evolution because the Church allows it, and I believe in the science behind it.

      You give no citation to Fr. Lemaitre being "Cartesian." He was never censured. Who interprets the Bible and Sacred Tradition--you or the Magisterium? In 1936, Pope Pius XI appointed Lemaître to the newly reorganized Pontifical Academy of Sciences in recognition of his great work in Big Bang cosmology. In 1951 Pope Pius XII praised the Big Band Theory and drew parallels to Genesis 1.

      Neither of these popes understood the teaching of the Fathers and Sacred Scripture?

      The Pontifical Biblical Commission under Pope St. Pius X decreed :

      Question # 7: "Whether, since it was not the intention of the sacred author, when writing the first chapter of Genesis, to teach us in a scientific manner the innermost nature of visible things, and to present the complete order of creation but rather to furnish his people with a popular account, such as the common parlance of that age allowed, one, namely, adopted to the senses and to man's intelligence, we are strictly and always bound, when interpreting these chapters to seek for scientific exactitude of expression?"

      Answer: In the negative.

      Question # 8: "Whether the word yom ('day'), which is used in the first chapter of Genesis to describe and distinguish the six days, may be taken in its strict sense as the natural day, or in a less strict sense as signifying a certain space of time; and whether free discussion of this question is permitted to interpreters?"

      Answer: In the affirmative.

      We see that in the response to question # 7, we are not bound to treat Genesis as some sort of science textbook. Question # 8 clearly shows that we are not bound to believe in six literal days of 24 hours each in the creation account. God created the universe in six yom, or time periods, the exact duration of which may be much more than 24 hours. Nor is it necessary to believe in a 6,000 year old Earth. Modern science and Genesis do not contradict each other.

      Do I know of Teilhard? I wrote against him several times. See https://introiboadaltaredei2.blogspot.com/2019/04/the-doctor-of-vatican-ii-sect.html

      Finally, the Bible does teach that death of HUMANS was not in the world before the Fall, not other living creatures. The Church never declared that as a doctrine of Faith.

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    2. If you want to believe in a literal six days of creation--you can. The Church decreed you don't have to believe such. Science points to an old universe. That's why 95% of all scientists are committed to it. Please write a peer reviewed paper on how all scientists get the red shift wrong; it would revolutionize science!

      The Pontifical Biblical Commission in 1909, affirmed that Genesis teaches the following facts about creation which are to be accepted by all Catholics. The decree was promulgated by Pope St. Pius X. It reads:

      ...the creation of all things which was accomplished by God at the beginning of time; the special creation of man; the formation of the first woman from man; the unity of the human race; the original happiness of our first parents in a state of justice, integrity, and immortality; the divine command laid upon man to prove his obedience; the transgression of that divine command at the instigation of the devil under the form of a serpent; the fall of our first parents from their primitive state of innocence; and the promise of a future Redeemer. (See Acta Apostolis Sedis, 1 [1909 Pontifical Biblical Commission], pages 567-69).

      Day of Rest (Genesis 2:3): Moses employed a period of a week for the Creation to impress upon the Jews the fact that the seventh day of the week was holy and a day of rest. Catholic exegetes [interpreters] are unanimous in rejecting the old theory that God accomplished everything in the space of six twenty-four hour periods. (See theologian Cevetello, Getting to Know the Bible, [1957], pg. 64).

      Thus to claim, as you did, "To draw different conclusions that are opposed to divine revelation on how we were created is a type of blasphemy" is wrong and ITSELF blasphemous to impose an interpretation as binding when the Church says it is not.

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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    3. “Who interprets the Bible and Sacred Tradition--you or the Magisterium?”

      Here’s some of the magisterial teachings:

      Saint Isaac The Syrian - “God, solely, by His good will, suddenly brought everything from non-being into being, and everything stood before Him in perfection”.

      Fourth Lateran Council (1215) “God by His own omnipotent
      power at once from the beginning of time created each creature, the spiritual and the corporeal and then man”

      Saint Lawrence of Brindisi spoke about this as a literal and historical account of Genesis.

      Not magisterial but a Saint:

      Saint Bridget of Sweden: “God’s creation of the world and all it contains took place in the instant of His Will’s expression”

      There are other early Church Fathers including Saint Augustine who believed in Genesis literally, it is the Divine word of God, so of course they would see the text as literal………

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    4. I must also ask this just to get more clarity on your position of theistic theistic evolution. First off Holy Scripture and Tradition on Supernatural Creation cannot be reconciled with evolution as a natural process even if you insert God. But here’s the question. You are not a deistic evolutionist but which one of these theistic evolutionary positions do you hold?

      1). Man came to be through naturalistic processes but with help of Divine Providence?

      2). Same as 1., but all humans came from Adam and Eve

      3). Same as 1 and 2 but that Eve came from rib of Adam and Adam from lower species

      4). Adam and Eve supernaturally created but through matter from a lower animal that was created by natural processes

      Which one do you support? Elaborate.

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    5. You say: “Finally, the Bible does teach that death of HUMANS was not in the world before the Fall, not other living creatures. The Church never declared that as a doctrine of Faith.

      For the creation was subjected to futility, not of its own will but by the will of him who subjected it in hope; because the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to decay and obtain the glorious liberty of the children of God. (Romans 8:20-21)

      It’s right here in Holy Scripture and backed up by Tradition as well. Ever hear of the UOM?

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    6. Thus to claim, as you did, "To draw different conclusions that are opposed to divine revelation on how we were created is a type of blasphemy" is wrong and ITSELF blasphemous to impose an interpretation as binding when the Church says it is not”.

      The Pontifical Biblical Commission and Cevetello, are not Holy Scripture itself, they are not the 4th Lateran Council or the Council of Trent all of which make theistic evolution incompatible with Genesis and Catholic Tradition and Dogma. Furthermore, the Pontifical Biblical Commission is not infallible. Its decisions are not considered dogmatic or doctrinal. To look at Genesis as a mythology and turn to a Cartesian materialist like LeMaitre for scientistic answers is indeed a sort of blasphemy against Divine Revelation. Yes The Church infallibly says you can’t mock Holy things, that would include sacred scripture.

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    7. @anon9:20 through 12:50
      I'm thinking your all the same person, but even if different, you all profess the same wrong anti-Catholic principles which drive both the R&R and Feeneyites.

      Let me spell it out:
      1. My position is that of the Church to wit: Each Catholic is free to believe that Genesis 1 is literal or not. I offered the Magisterial decisions of the Pontifical Biblical Commission, comprised of the most orthodox theologians under Pope St. Pius X. Their decisions are binding on the whole Church because the decree must be read, approved and ordered published by the pope himself. Pope St. Pius X approved the Magisterial answers below:

      Question # 7: "Whether, since it was not the intention of the sacred author, when writing the first chapter of Genesis, to teach us in a scientific manner the innermost nature of visible things, and to present the complete order of creation but rather to furnish his people with a popular account, such as the common parlance of that age allowed, one, namely, adopted to the senses and to man's intelligence, we are strictly and always bound, when interpreting these chapters to seek for scientific exactitude of expression?"

      Answer: In the negative.

      Question # 8: "Whether the word yom ('day'), which is used in the first chapter of Genesis to describe and distinguish the six days, may be taken in its strict sense as the natural day, or in a less strict sense as signifying a certain space of time; and whether free discussion of this question is permitted to interpreters?"

      Answer: In the affirmative.

      We see that in the response to question # 7, we are not bound to treat Genesis as some sort of science textbook. Question # 8 clearly shows that we are not bound to believe in six literal days of 24 hours each in the creation account. God created the universe in six yom, or time periods, the exact duration of which may be much more than 24 hours. Nor is it necessary to believe in a 6,000 year old Earth.

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    8. 2. You do not merely argue that there is more evidence for a young Earth (there isn't), nor do you cite approved theologians, or Magisterial decrees that would lend support tou your position (There aren't any). Instead, you claim that the position of a young Earth is "It’s right here in Holy Scripture and backed up by Tradition as well. Ever hear of the UOM?"

      If the UOM (Universal and Ordinary Magisterium) teaches an Old Earth, it is infallible as Vatican Council of 1870 taught. The UOM is equally infallible as ex cathedra decisions.

      Hence, according to YOU, Pope St. Pius X approved that Catholics may believe something that contradicts dogma. Contrary to what you wrote, the decisions of the Pontifical Biblical Commission are BINDING ON ALL CATHOLIC--the whole Church.

      Pope St. Pius X approved heresy. There's no way around it--it follows logically and necessarily from the premises.
      It would be no different than if he had allowed all Catholics believe in Transubstantiation or not. That's no less heresy.

      As explained in this very post above, the pope can only make mistakes as a private theologian or in giving opinionative decisions subject to change.

      In approving the decisions of the Pontifical Biblical Commission and promulgating said decision, he was acting as Supreme Pontiff and binding the whole Church. You must believe what he thus teaches or be guilty of mortal sin directly against the Faith. The very idea that a pope need only be followed in ex cathedra decrees was itself CONDEMNED in the Syllabus Of Errors by Pope Pius IX---CONDEMNED PROPOSITION #22:

      "The obligation by which Catholic teachers and authors are strictly bound is confined to those things only which are proposed to universal belief as dogmas of faith by the infallible judgment of the Church."

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    9. 3. Moreover, a good argument can be made that the teaching of an Old Earth is now defined by the UOM. All theologians since the reign of Pope St. Pius X have abandoned the idea that "yom" in Genesis 1 means 24 hours. Day of Rest (Genesis 2:3): Moses employed a period of a week for the Creation to impress upon the Jews the fact that the seventh day of the week was holy and a day of rest. Catholic exegetes [interpreters] are unanimous in rejecting the old theory that God accomplished everything in the space of six twenty-four hour periods. (See theologian Cevetello, Getting to Know the Bible, [1957], pg. 64).

      4. You claim: "Here’s some of the magisterial teachings:

      Saint Isaac The Syrian - “God, solely, by His good will, suddenly brought everything from non-being into being, and everything stood before Him in perfection”.

      Fourth Lateran Council (1215) “God by His own omnipotent
      power at once from the beginning of time created each creature, the spiritual and the corporeal and then man”

      Saint Lawrence of Brindisi spoke about this as a literal and historical account of Genesis."

      You also cite Romans: "For the creation was subjected to futility, not of its own will but by the will of him who subjected it in hope; because the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to decay and obtain the glorious liberty of the children of God. (Romans 8:20-21)"

      Reply: That's your private interpretation of those passages and teachings of the Church Fathers. The Church makes the decisions, not you.

      As explained above, the pope must profess the Integral Catholic Faith, his training ensures he knows the Faith, and the Holy Ghost cannot permit him to teach heresy or error to the whole Church. Yet, Pope St. Pius X did just that if the young earth creationism must be held, for to allow Catholics to hold to error or evil would violate the dogma of Indefectibility.

      The Pontifical Biblical Commission, in question six of its decision of 1909, says that we should follow the example of the Fathers in making allegorical and prophetical interpretations, after having determined the literal and historical sense. This means that it is perfectly acceptable to make allegorical interpretations, not that we have to follow the Fathers in all of their interpretations. The Commission declared:

      ...in interpreting those passages of these chapters [of Genesis] that the Fathers and Doctors have interpreted in divers ways without leaving anything definite or certain, it is permitted, subject to the judgment of the Church and the analogy of faith, to follow and defend that opinion which each one has prudently found correct.

      This is Magisterial authority that the Fathers do not present a doctrinally-binding, unanimous consensus on the first chapters of Genesis--and it comes from Pope St. Pius X. All the approved theologians under Pope St. Pius X taught a non-literal six days of creation, yet NONE were condemned or censured. Was Pope St. Pius X a "weak pope" who allowed "Modernist theologians" to get away with doing this?

      Having demonstrated that it is permissible to accept an Old Earth, as did Popes Pius XI and Pius XII, you must either retract that it goes against Scripture and sacred Tradition, or stop calling yourself Catholic.

      ---Introibo

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    10. Lastly, it is rank calumny to call Fr. Lemaitre "Cartesian" when he was approved by Pope Pius XII as fullt Catholic. You offer nothing but your ipse dixit.

      ---Introibo

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  59. Evolutionism is one of the error’s of Russia that paved the way for some of the most atrocious and murderous acts in history. It is also responsible for abortion, birth control, extreme nihilism, and the culture of death in our society. Theistic evolution is an attempt to explain the nonsensical errors of evolution away by inserting God into the equation to make up for the flaws in the bogus theory. Theistic evolutionists want to compromise between Darwinian evolution and theology by saying God created everything by using the natural process of evolution. The Vatican II sect is a big proponent of theistic evolution and even Darwinian evolution, and is why many of them are perverts and support all sorts of deviancy. Natural processes being responsible for life once God created matter is not Catholic at all. Some theistic evolutionists believe God is involved over billions of years but this isn’t Biblical either, and they believe Genesis is just an allegory. God does not use evolution as a secondary means to create human life. The theistic evolutionists reinterpret scripture wherever their false theory contradicts it. God willed everything into existence suddenly, right away. When Jesus performed miracles His commands and Will showed the miracle right away, it doesn’t happen by atoms exploding and creating the observable universe over billions of years. God’s commands happen right away. One must understand that the Creation of the universe by God is supernatural, not natural and you can’t extrapolate backwards and use natural explanations to explain God’s supernatural creation.

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      Pope St. Pius X, Pope Pius XI and Pope Pius XII allowed for an Old Earth. That settles it if you are Catholic. St. Pius X was teaching the whole Church, he cannot have made a "mistake" as explain in my post above.

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  60. Theistic evolution is not condemned by name in any dogmatic decree but Pope Pius XII wrongly said the earth is billions of years old in his fallible capacity. This contradicts the Church Fathers and Holy Scripture. So while it’s NOT heresy since it was not a statement made in an authoritative or ex cathedra way, but it is indeed error. Pope’s can be in error in their fallible capacity.

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      Wrong. I offered the Magisterial decisions of the Pontifical Biblical Commission, comprised of the most orthodox theologians under Pope St. Pius X. Their decisions are binding on the whole Church because the decree must be read, approved and ordered published by the pope himself. Pope St. Pius X approved the Magisterial answers below:

      Question # 7: "Whether, since it was not the intention of the sacred author, when writing the first chapter of Genesis, to teach us in a scientific manner the innermost nature of visible things, and to present the complete order of creation but rather to furnish his people with a popular account, such as the common parlance of that age allowed, one, namely, adopted to the senses and to man's intelligence, we are strictly and always bound, when interpreting these chapters to seek for scientific exactitude of expression?"

      Answer: In the negative.

      Question # 8: "Whether the word yom ('day'), which is used in the first chapter of Genesis to describe and distinguish the six days, may be taken in its strict sense as the natural day, or in a less strict sense as signifying a certain space of time; and whether free discussion of this question is permitted to interpreters?"

      Answer: In the affirmative.

      We see that in the response to question # 7, we are not bound to treat Genesis as some sort of science textbook. Question # 8 clearly shows that we are not bound to believe in six literal days of 24 hours each in the creation account. God created the universe in six yom, or time periods, the exact duration of which may be much more than 24 hours. Nor is it necessary to believe in a 6,000 year old Earth.

      As explained in this very post above, the pope can only make mistakes as a private theologian or in giving opinionative decisions subject to change.

      In approving the decisions of the Pontifical Biblical Commission and promulgating said decision, he was acting as Supreme Pontiff and binding the whole Church. You must believe what he thus teaches or be guilty of mortal sin directly against the Faith. The very idea that a pope need only be followed in ex cathedra decrees was itself CONDEMNED in the Syllabus Of Errors by Pope Pius IX---CONDEMNED PROPOSITION #22:

      "The obligation by which Catholic teachers and authors are strictly bound is confined to those things only which are proposed to universal belief as dogmas of faith by the infallible judgment of the Church."

      The decision that you can hold either a young or old earth is means that it cannot be wrong to adhere to either. To clam otherwise is itself error and sinful against the Faith.

      ---Introibo

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  61. “Science points to an old universe. That's why 95% of all scientists are committed to it. Please write a peer reviewed paper on how all scientists get the red shift wrong; it would revolutionize science!”

    The consensus on anthropogenic global warming is almost unanimous what is your point? The “science” community has an agenda, if scientists deviate from the pseudo science orthodoxy (big bang, global warming, repackaged as climate change, vaccines, Transgenderism etc.). they get ostracized and lose grants. Don’t you get how academia and big science works? Peer reviewed papers is mostly a scam that is agenda driven. Have you ever heard of Climategate? Were you sleeping during COVID? Or were you walking around in 7 masks and getting jabs because the consensus and peer reviewed papers said trust the science?……..

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    1. Regarding the 7 masks part:
      Talk about a straw man! This is not how you prove your points. People might believe the scientific establishment without believing in COVID lies.

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      Sure there is politics at work, and the fact that I didn't get the jab, and don't attribute global warming to primarily human factors comes from my science background. A vaccine needs a minimum of 5 years of clinical study. Global warming attributed to humans has been exaggerated. Thankfully, there were scientists who wrote challenging these flawed studies.

      Modern science has also done wonders. If you had a brain tumor 100 years ago, you were as good as dead. Now, brain surgery cures many--or is that all lies too?

      ---Introibo

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    3. This is nonsense! All vaccine are poison from the beginning. Read the Poisoned Needle from 1950s which can still be found online. Sorry you too are fooled by so much.

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    4. Right. The fact the novus ordo conservatives lined up for death vaxx made with murdered babies is sickening, and they can't understand why so many of them have cancer now. Look into sv40 people. Govt put it in vaxxes during/after polio vaxx scam, yes, to cause cancer. Believing the white coats (so called doctors/butchers) and the black coats (novus ordo and all false clergy) is deadly!

      Most recent fave quote:

      "Putting aborted fetal cells in vaccines falls into the same category as putting monkey kidney tissue in vaccines. We're dealing with an ancient black magic satanic death cult that laughs at us as we inject our own ground up babies and other black magic concoctions into ourselves and our children. We passed clinical insanity a long time ago. Anyone believing that any of this is legitimate science, is literally clinically insane. It's black magic. So they're saying that we need to kill our own children and inject that material into ourselves to stay immune? Really? Turn off the TV, stop listening to the highly paid assassins in the white butcher coats, start thinking a little harder and start recognizing pure evil when you see it...."

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  62. You say: “Neither of these popes understood the teaching of the Fathers and Sacred Scripture?”

    Popes can be in error in their fallible capacity. Theistic evolution is not condemned by name in any dogmatic decree. But 4th Lateran Council and Early Church Fathers teach literal meaning of Genesis. I think Bishop Sanborn, who obviously is not infallible, recently said Genesis was to be read literally. Just an interesting side note. You say you can adhere to this error because the science backs it up but theistic evolution is not much different than Darwinian evolution except you have inserted God to explain away the nonsense of evolution. I’ll explain the red shift to you next…..

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    1. Wrong. I offered the Magisterial decisions of the Pontifical Biblical Commission, comprised of the most orthodox theologians under Pope St. Pius X. Their decisions are binding on the whole Church because the decree must be read, approved and ordered published by the pope himself. Pope St. Pius X approved the Magisterial answers below:

      Question # 7: "Whether, since it was not the intention of the sacred author, when writing the first chapter of Genesis, to teach us in a scientific manner the innermost nature of visible things, and to present the complete order of creation but rather to furnish his people with a popular account, such as the common parlance of that age allowed, one, namely, adopted to the senses and to man's intelligence, we are strictly and always bound, when interpreting these chapters to seek for scientific exactitude of expression?"

      Answer: In the negative.

      Question # 8: "Whether the word yom ('day'), which is used in the first chapter of Genesis to describe and distinguish the six days, may be taken in its strict sense as the natural day, or in a less strict sense as signifying a certain space of time; and whether free discussion of this question is permitted to interpreters?"

      Answer: In the affirmative.

      We see that in the response to question # 7, we are not bound to treat Genesis as some sort of science textbook. Question # 8 clearly shows that we are not bound to believe in six literal days of 24 hours each in the creation account. God created the universe in six yom, or time periods, the exact duration of which may be much more than 24 hours. Nor is it necessary to believe in a 6,000 year old Earth.

      As explained in this very post above, the pope can only make mistakes as a private theologian or in giving opinionative decisions subject to change.

      In approving the decisions of the Pontifical Biblical Commission and promulgating said decision, he was acting as Supreme Pontiff and binding the whole Church. You must believe what he thus teaches or be guilty of mortal sin directly against the Faith. The very idea that a pope need only be followed in ex cathedra decrees was itself CONDEMNED in the Syllabus Of Errors by Pope Pius IX---CONDEMNED PROPOSITION #22:

      "The obligation by which Catholic teachers and authors are strictly bound is confined to those things only which are proposed to universal belief as dogmas of faith by the infallible judgment of the Church."

      The decision that you can hold either a young or old earth is means that it cannot be wrong to adhere to either. To clam otherwise is itself error and sinful against the Faith.

      With such poor knowledge of theology, don't even attempt to "explain" anything tome in science.

      ---Introibo

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  63. Open letter from
    33 cosmologists:

    “The big bang today relies on a growing number of hypothetical entities, things that we have never observed -- inflation, dark matter and dark energy are the most prominent examples. Without them, there would be a fatal contradiction between the observations made by astronomers and the predictions of the big bang theory. In no other field of physics would this continual recourse to new hypothetical objects be accepted as a way of bridging the gap between theory and observation. It would, at the least, raise serious questions about the validity of the underlying theory.”

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      Who are these nameless 33 cosmologists? What Journal published it?

      ---Introibo

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    2. They might be anonymous This doesn't mean they are right but it doesn't mean they are wrong

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    3. Poni,
      Correct. I'm not attaching their anonymity. If 33 scientists have something to say they need to back it up. Therefore it becomes necessary to know: Do they have legitimate doctorates, and where did they publish their research so it can be reviewed.

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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  64. Young earth created supernaturally in literal days:

    “And fittingly [Moses] added: 'He created,' lest it be thought that there was a delay in creation. Furthermore, men would also see how incomparable the Creator was Who completed such a great work in the briefest moment of His creative act, so much so that the effect of His will anticipated the perception of time.”

    -Saint Ambrose

    As to the separate stars or the great lights, not this appeared first and that second, but in one day and by the same command, they were all called into being. And such was the original formation of the quadrupeds, and of birds and fishes, and cattle, and plants... No one creature was made before another but all things subsisted at once together upon one and the same command.”

    -Saint Athanasius

    This is more proof of the traditional teaching. I already provided quotes from at least one other Church father.

    And the 4th Lateran Counil teaches literal account of Genesis.

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      Quoting like this is exactly what Protestants do>

      Here's a quote for you: "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,"...Romans 3:23

      "ALL have fallen short..." there you have proof against the Immaculate Conception!

      I offered the Magisterial decisions of the Pontifical Biblical Commission, comprised of the most orthodox theologians under Pope St. Pius X. Their decisions are binding on the whole Church because the decree must be read, approved and ordered published by the pope himself. Pope St. Pius X approved the Magisterial answers below:

      Question # 7: "Whether, since it was not the intention of the sacred author, when writing the first chapter of Genesis, to teach us in a scientific manner the innermost nature of visible things, and to present the complete order of creation but rather to furnish his people with a popular account, such as the common parlance of that age allowed, one, namely, adopted to the senses and to man's intelligence, we are strictly and always bound, when interpreting these chapters to seek for scientific exactitude of expression?"

      Answer: In the negative.

      Question # 8: "Whether the word yom ('day'), which is used in the first chapter of Genesis to describe and distinguish the six days, may be taken in its strict sense as the natural day, or in a less strict sense as signifying a certain space of time; and whether free discussion of this question is permitted to interpreters?"

      Answer: In the affirmative.

      We see that in the response to question # 7, we are not bound to treat Genesis as some sort of science textbook. Question # 8 clearly shows that we are not bound to believe in six literal days of 24 hours each in the creation account. God created the universe in six yom, or time periods, the exact duration of which may be much more than 24 hours. Nor is it necessary to believe in a 6,000 year old Earth.

      As explained in this very post above, the pope can only make mistakes as a private theologian or in giving opinionative decisions subject to change.

      In approving the decisions of the Pontifical Biblical Commission and promulgating said decision, he was acting as Supreme Pontiff and binding the whole Church. You must believe what he thus teaches or be guilty of mortal sin directly against the Faith. The very idea that a pope need only be followed in ex cathedra decrees was itself CONDEMNED in the Syllabus Of Errors by Pope Pius IX---CONDEMNED PROPOSITION #22:

      "The obligation by which Catholic teachers and authors are strictly bound is confined to those things only which are proposed to universal belief as dogmas of faith by the infallible judgment of the Church."

      The decision that you can hold either a young or old earth is means that it cannot be wrong to adhere to either. To clam otherwise is itself error and sinful against the Faith.

      ---Introibo

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  65. It’s a shame I can’t link any articles here refuting red shift since you can’t click on the links for this blog when they are copy and pasted, I could copy and paste the text but if you publish those comments it just becomes like a long post. So I’ll hold off on that. But simply put Catholic doctrine clearly teaches that the work of creation was supernatural, each creature, plants, and cosmos came into existence instantaneously over the course of a literal week, and then the natural order came after this. But what about Lemaitre and Cartesian philosophy? You say:

    You give no citation to Fr. Lemaitre being "Cartesian."

    I don’t need a citation from a modernist “Catholic” scholar from circa 1957 to know that Lemaitre was a materialist. Cartesians use material and natural processes to explain the supernatural. Very simple.

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      You write: "I don’t need a citation from a modernist “Catholic” scholar from circa 1957 to know that Lemaitre was a materialist. Cartesians use material and natural processes to explain the supernatural. Very simple."

      Translation: I will calumniate a good and orthodox priest praised by two popes and claim he is a Modernist because i don't like his theological and scientific conclusions approved for belief by the Church.

      That's very simple and sinful.

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  66. Theistic evolution is a compromise on Darwinian evolution and God’s Divine Revelation. It has all the elements of Darwinian evolution except God is used to explain away the parts that you think make you Catholic. You try to reconcile the materialist/nihilistic/naturalistic part with the supernatural. It can’t be done!

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      It has been done by the approved theologians!

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  67. So you support theistic evolution, NFP (birth control), you believe Jews who blaspheme Christ can be Catholic as they dance in a synagogue and read the Talmud, you call into question approved Church apparitions, you are plugged into the mainstream establishment narrative and “Big Science” agenda. You are like Jimmy Akin, Richard Cushing, Bill Nye, and Chardin wrapped into one. You are one big walking and talking modernist who spreads error.

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      So I support what the Church supports or allows. Therefore, I stand in the company of Pope St. Pius X, Pope Pius XI, Pope Pius XII and all approved theologians under them.

      It's called "being Catholic." You should try it sometime.

      ---Introibo

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    2. the church also allows you to believe the moon is made of cheese. Doesn’t mean it’s true

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    3. @anon4:23
      You are correct. However, the comments here are not "I don't think an old earth is true" and then offering scientific or theological arguments for a young earth. It's been stated that the popes "made errors in their non-infallible teaching" and that a young earth is required to be believed---one such commenter even said a young earth was taught by the UOM as true (thereby making it infallible).

      A young earther really has no theological leg on which to stand. Pope St. Pius X, Pope Pius XI and Pope Pius XII all permitted (and believed) an old earth. So did all approved theologians from the time of Pope St. Pius X. A very good argument could be made that the UOM teaches an OLD EARTH.

      The Church cannot bind all Catholics to accept as viable any theological conclusion which would be heretical or evil by contradicting the two sources of Revelation, Holy Scripture and Sacred Tradition.

      Therefore, while an Old Earth may not be true, it does not contradict the Bible or Sacred Tradition as commenters here have stated. No one here claimed that believing the moon being made of cheese contradicts the Sources of Revelation--that's a big difference.

      ---Introibo

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    4. Old earth vs young earth is not my concern here.


      From a purely scientific standpoint Flat earth and geocentrism are undeniably true. Even old earth has no scientific proof.

      you also very sneakily added in "(and believed in)", could you provide one iota of evidence of such a humongous claim? Certainly the UOM does not teach old earth, i can only find permission to believe in it. You are also permitted to believe the stupid theory called molinism, which logically leads to atheism


      Also jews are polytheists so you deny the necessity of believe in God if you think they can have faith. The jewish shekinah is a female who they copulate with at the wailing wall using a "prayer" called davening.

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    5. Old earth is not a heresy, that i concede. But the idea that it is taught by the UOM, as if young earth is condemned. That i cannot.

      All the fathers and doctors were young earthers.


      The main issue here is jews. If what @anon 4:53 said is correct. You believe that polytheists can have supernatural faith.

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      There is no proof for an old earth, but there is proof the earth is flat and the center of the universe? oh boy.

      I can certainly provide proof that Pope Pius XII believed in the Big Bang. In 1951, Pius XII gave an address to the Pontifical Academy of Sciences entitled “The Proofs for the Existence of God in the Light of Modern Natural Science,” offering an enthusiastic endorsement of the theory.

      He stated the following about it enthusiastically:

      "Thus, with that concreteness which is characteristic of physical proofs, science has confirmed the contingency of the universe and also the well-founded deduction as to the epoch when the world came forth from the hands of the Creator. Hence, creation took place. We say: therefore, there is a Creator. Therefore, God exists!”

      Molinism does not "lead to atheism" anymore than does the Big Bang. If it did, the Church would not permit it as it would be evil. I am a Molinist and believe in God's middle Knowledge.

      I'll deal with the calumny against me in the comment below.

      ---Introibo

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    7. @anon5:57 and 6:07 (probably the same person)

      The "main issue is the Jews"?? How that factors in with my post above or what has so far been stated in the comments here is bewildering.

      I have NEVER stated that Jews or any non-Catholic can attain Heaven. Anyone who dies outside the One True Church goes to Hell. No exceptions. Any one within the One True Church who dies in unrepentant mortal sin (and has therefore no sanctifying grace) goes to Hell. There are no exceptions.

      What can happen is as follows: Catholics must pray for the conversion of non-Catholics. A non-Catholic may receive actual graces and cooperate with said graces, leading them to doubt the truth of their beliefs and the morality they hold. They ask God to show them the truth. They may come into contact with a member of the True Church and convert OR they may, before the moment of death, have the Truths of Faith infused and the grace of contrition leading to sanctifying grace --they die within the Church in the state of grace and are saved. This is the rare miracle of BOD.

      In either case, the non-Catholic dies within the Church in a state of grace and is thereby Catholic.

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  68. Well according to anon 453 you thought a religious jew could be catholic while being a jew. If that isnt your position then i repent.


    The following quote
    "Thus, with that concreteness which is characteristic of physical proofs, science has confirmed the contingency of the universe and also the well-founded deduction as to the epoch when the world came forth from the hands of the Creator. Hence, creation took place. We say: therefore, there is a Creator. Therefore, God exists!”

    Says no such thing as "the earth is billions of years old" or that "a big bang is the cause of the universe.


    as for molinism, even if it doesnt logically lead to atheism. its still in contradiction with st thomas

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      Pope Pius XII made that comment about the theory of Fr. Lemaitre. What other theory would that be?

      Molinism is not Thomistic yet still Catholic.

      —-Introibo

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    2. he doesnt seem to be making a comment on any theory

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    3. @anon3:56
      The Steady State Theory was the accepted cosmology prior to the Big Bang. It proposed the universe always existed. The atheist Communists LOVED it because if anyone asked, "Who created the universe?" the answer was "there is no Creator, the universe always existed." It was Fr. Lemaitre who used science to prove otherwise.

      Pope Pius XII referenced the theory of Father, and had him sitting at a place of honor to hear his speech. Yet you think he wasn't referencing the Big Bang. Oh well...

      ---Introibo

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  69. A question for anyone please...below is an excerpt from today's Liturgical Year. Thank you. Blessed Sunday to all.
    Is the 3rd paragraph sound? I have heard many traditional priests say otherwise.
    https://lyp.network/email?h=b777f1&tmpl=component#fourth-sunday-after-easter
    Nor is this all. An unbaptized man or woman may be dying, and no one near him to administer this sacrament; he is on the brink of eternity, and there is no hand nigh to pour the water of regeneration upon him; our Saviour has lovingly provided for this necessity. Let this man or woman believe in baptism; let him desire it in all the sincerity of his soul; let him entertain sentiments of compunction and love, such as are required of an adult when receiving baptism; he is baptized in desire, and heaven is open to him.

    But what if it be a child, who has not come to the use of reason? Our Saviour’s words are plain: He that believeth and is baptized, shall be saved. How, then, can this child be saved? The guilt of original sin is upon it, and it is incapable of making an act of faith. Fear not: the power of holy baptism extends even so far as this. The faith of the Church will be imputed to this child, which the Church is about to adopt as her own: let water be but poured on the child, in the name of the three divine Persons, and it is a Christian for ever. Baptized in the faith of the Church, this child now possesses (and, as we say, personally) Faith, Hope and Charity; the sacramental water has achieved this wondrous work. If the little innocent dies, it goes straight to heaven.

    These, O Jesus! are the admirable effects of the first of thy sacraments. How truly does the Apostle say of thee, that thou wiliest all men to be saved![14] If this thy will be in some without its fulfilment, so that some children die without baptism, it is because of the consequences which sin produces in the parents, and which thy justice is not bound to prevent. And yet, how frequently does not thy mercy intervene, and procure the grace of regeneration for children who, naturally, would have been excluded! Thus, the water of baptism has been poured upon countless babes, who were dying in the arms of their pagan parents, and the angels received these little ones into their choirs. Knowing this, dear Saviour, we are forced to exclaim with the Psalmist: Let us that live bless the Lord![15]

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      There's no problem with what is written.

      "And yet, how frequently does not thy mercy intervene, and procure the grace of regeneration for children who, naturally, would have been excluded! Thus, the water of baptism has been poured upon countless babes, who were dying in the arms of their pagan parents,..."

      What the distinguished theologian is saying is that without baptism babies cannot get to Heaven (correct, they go to Limbo with natural happiness), but God has missionaries and such pour the water of baptism on babies "dying in the arms of their pagan parents."

      Babies can only be saved by sacramental baptism or Baptism of Blood (BOB). Baptism of Desire (BOD) is not available to them.

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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    2. Thank you Introibo! And babies who die in utero go where? Such as St Margaret Clitherow baby, who was martyred while pregnant...

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      It is the majority opinion of the theologians that unborn babies who die in the womb of their mother who was martyred, share in her martyrdom and attain to Heaven by Baptism of Blood.

      God Bless,

      —-Introibo

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  70. Oh thank you so much! Sede priests have told me opposite and this never made sense to me! This answer makes sense!

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  71. Thank you Intriobo. Excellent article. Bishop Sanborn disagrees that Provost cannot be validly elected. He claims the V2 institution can juridicaly elect a material pope. And that the election has to be declared invalid. Otherwise the Church would be like a mob. I wish he would quit causing division by constantly foisting the novel "thesis" upon the ears of laity and keep those conversations privately among the clergy.

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  72. The last post was from John Gregory on bishop Sanborn.

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