Monday, May 26, 2025

Chasing Your Dreams?

 

I'm sure almost all of us have had the experience of dreaming about something that seemed very real. Perhaps it was a nightmare and you woke up in a sweat with your heart pounding; you say a quick prayer of thanks to God that it was only a dream and not real. Conversely, you might have had a dream that was so delightful you never wanted it to end; you were talking with a deceased loved one, or maybe you had the ability to fly like a superhero and you woke up wishing the dream was real (or at least wishing the dream itself would have lasted longer). 

Almighty God has made use of dreams to communicate with humans on rare and special occasions. The three most famous accounts of such appear in the Bible: Genesis 28 tells of Jacob's dream and how it relates to his descendants; Genesis 37 to 39 tells of Joseph and the dream he had, as well as his ability to interpret dreams; and in the New Testament, St. Matthew's Gospel tells us in chapter one that St. Joseph was informed by an angel in a dream that Mary is pregnant by the Holy Ghost with Christ, and should not fear taking her as his wife. 

Unfortunately, dreams can also be an occasion for evil. One example is psychoanalysis of dreams by Freudian psychologists and psychiatrists giving dreams undue importance and, in many cases, telling the patients he/she should commit sin because the alleged interpretation of the dream "should be followed." 

Another example of dreams used for evil (and the subject of this post) is lucid dreaming. This phenomena is a kind of dream state in which the person is awake enough to realize they are dreaming. According to the Lucidity Institute, the term was first coined by Dutch author and psychiatrist Frederik van Eeden who used the word "lucid" in the sense of mental clarity. (See lucidity.com). Dreams are a big part of our lives — the average person dreams for two hours per night and roughly six years over the course of their lifetime. (See nih.gov/health-information/public-education/brain-basics/brain-basics-understanding-sleep). 

The theme of those who promote lucid dreaming is that dreams can impact our future, in this life and the next. Some proponents claim that lucid dreams help us experience joy while sleeping that maybe we cannot or simply have not experienced in real life. Co-authors of the book Lucid Dreaming Plain and Simple note, “Often when people become lucid, they report a kind of spontaneous euphoria in which they feel a strong sense of energy and mastery coupled with a profound sense of awareness and clarity.”
(See Robert Waggoner and Caroline McCready, Lucid Dreaming Plain and Simple: Tips and Techniques for Insight, Creativity, and Personal Growth (2020), pg. 10). 

This post will expose the occult and pagan origins of using lucid dreams, and how it opens one up to the demonic. (N.B. I wish to acknowledge the myriad sources, both online and hardcopy books, I used in my research. I attribute the information in this post to those sources, and take no credit for myself except in condensing the information into a terse, readable post---Introibo). 

The History of Lucid Dreams
Lucid dreams are dreams in which the person who is asleep is conscious that they are dreaming. They can control who they interact with, what they experience, and in some cases, when it ends. For centuries, Tibetan monks have been practicing “dream yoga” — a process by which the practitioner learns how to become conscious during dreams. Although they are not asleep while exercising dream yoga, the yogis are preparing for lucid dream experiences. Hindus have a similar practice called Yoga Nidra.

In the West, lucid dreaming is less associated with religion (though not completely detached) and more related to psychology. Interestingly, the Greek philosopher Aristotle alluded to the ability to be conscious while dreaming in On Dreams, stating, “When one is asleep, there is something in consciousness which declares that what then presents itself is but a dream.” (See classics.mit.edu/Aristotle/dreams.html). 

Dutch psychiatrist Frederik Willem van Eeden (d. 1932) coined the term “lucid dream” in 1913 in his article, “A Study of Dreams.” He noted that he intentionally avoided using the terms conscious and unconscious in his analysis, but he still suggested that lucid dreams are controllable by the dreamer. In the decades that followed van Eeden’s dream study, several other researchers tackled the topic of lucid dreams. In 1968, British occultist Celia Green published a book called Lucid Dreams (Institute of Psychophysical Research) in which she described how people could gain control of their dreams. A large body of research into the topic was performed in the 1980s and continues today.

In 2021, a team of international researchers attempted to speak with 36 participants who were asleep and engaged in a lucid dream. (See Benjamin Baird et al., “Two-Way Communication in Lucid REM Sleep Dreaming,” Trends in Cognitive Sciences 25, no. 6 [2021], 427–428).  The results were mixed, but the research has spawned more interest in the scientific community to continue to investigate lucid dreams. The purpose was to see if people in lucid dreams had a sort of telepathic power. 

Why Study Lucid Dreams?
Those involved in lucid dreaming make several claims as to why people should want to cultivate those dreams. It has been claimed by various authors that by having lucid dreams you can:
  • explore your inner self; open doors to the "unconscious mind" to reveal and help resolve hidden emotional conflicts or other problems
  • find inspiration for writing, poetry, songs, and other so-called "artistic endeavors”
  • achieve peace of mind and bodily health as lucid dreaming puts the person in a deep meditative trance
  • achieve higher consciousness
  • develop "hidden abilities" such as clairvoyance
  • bring about bodily health through the deep dream state
  • receive messages from "God," and spirits

The Occult Connection
My research has shown (as already indicated above) that most of those involved with lucid dreams are occultists seeking power over reality. It mostly began as a subject to be pursued in the pagan East. World-of-lucid-dreaming.com relates how lucid dreams "...helps [me] to enter altered states of consciousness at will." The same source tells us Tibetan Buddhist monks use lucid dreaming on their path to enlightenment. Just like lucid dreams, the aim of Dream Yoga is to awaken the conscious self from within the dream state, which they call "apprehending the dream." However, Buddhist monks have more esoteric goals in mind. Their aim is to harness the power of the conscious dream state and then complete a number of set tasks to take them to the next level, including:

  • Practice sadhana (a spiritual discipline)
  • Receive initiations, empowerments and transmissions
  • Visit different places, planes and lokas (worlds)
  • Communicate with yidam (an enlightened being)
  • Meet with other sentient beings
  • Fly and shapeshift into other creatures  (Emphasis mine).
Five Serious Dangers of Using Lucid Dreams

1. False ideas of Communicating with God. 
Many people (including Traditionalists) will be told that lucid dreams can put you in touch with God and allow you to communicate with Him. This belief that God communicates to us regularly, directly, and personally by dreams makes dreams become normal vehicles for supernatural activity (allegedly divine communication), rather than normal byproducts of consciousness that are most of them. One unfortunate result of this belief is when dreams become divinatory or vehicles for occult revelations. They can supposedly warn of future events, bring spiritual enlightenment, assist physical and mental healing, function as an adjunct to inner work, or guide in making daily decisions. In this role, they can become an actual replacement for the guidance of the Church. These dreams can also cause a lack of prayer, which is real communication with God. 

2.  Raising "Consciousness."
Although in the lucid dream sense, consciousness refers to being aware or knowing you’re in a dream, consciousness in the occult sense means connection to a "higher self "or some kind of universal energy. It is the heresy of pantheism, i.e., that the universe and "God" are One. It also goes along with the occult belief that "you are God"---the "god within." If you buy into it you are a heretic.

3. Falling Prey to Other Occult Practices.
All important skills for a Wiccan [witch], or any spiritual seeker. Working with dreams can also help develop your psychic skills. (See wicca-spirituality.com/dream-work.html; Emphasis mine). "Skills" that can be developed include clairvoyance, astral projection, and communication with the dead (necromancy). 

4. Talking to "Beings" in Your Dreams.
Those proponents of lucid dreams will often tell people to interact with people (or other things) capable of communicating with them. Remember that in a deep meditative state, you open yourself up to demonic influence. The pagan meditation that goes along with inducing lucid dreams purposefully is the same meditation techniques as pagans and shamans use to make "contact with the spirit world." 
As opposed to Christian meditation which is thought about something (e.g., the Mysteries of the Rosary, etc.) occult meditation is about stopping thought to induce a trance or altered state of consciousness (ASC). Trance states and ASCs have been traditionally associated with the occult world, demonism, and other forms of spirit contact, such as shamanism, witchcraft, neo-paganism, magic ritual, Satanism, mediumism, and yogic disciplines. 

David Wilcock, author of Awakening in the Dream and frequent guest on History Channel’s Ancient Aliens, has spent his life evaluating his dreams and trying to connect the dots with his spirituality. He writes, “My dreams were making it clearer that I needed to somehow form a bridge from the world of UFO research into the spiritual side of dreaming, lucidity, ancient spiritual teachings, and higher consciousness.” (pg. 268).  Do I even need to state how this "spirituality" is occult?

Stephanie Meyer, author of the occult Twilight series (which also spawned a franchise of movies) tells how the character of Edward the vampire (portrayed as "good" in the books and movies) actually came to her in lucid dreams:

"I woke up (on that June 2nd) from a very vivid dream. In my dream, two people were having an intense conversation in a meadow in the woods. One of these people was just your average girl. The other person was fantastically beautiful, sparkly, and a vampire. They were discussing the difficulties inherent in the facts that A) they were falling in love with each other while B) the vampire was particularly attracted to the scent of her blood, and was having a difficult time restraining himself from killing her immediately. For what is essentially a transcript of my dream, please see Chapter 13 ("Confessions") of the book."
 (See web.archive.org/web/20080730025156/http://www.stepheniemeyer.com/twilight.html). 

She further relates that after her dream, she began to hear voices that would not stop until she wrote what she heard:

"All this time, Bella and Edward were, quite literally, voices in my head. They simply wouldn't shut up. I'd stay up as late as I could stand trying to get all the stuff in my mind typed out, and then crawl, exhausted, into bed (my baby still wasn't sleeping through the night, yet) only to have another conversation start in my head. I hated to lose anything by forgetting, so I'd get up and head back down to the computer. Eventually, I got a pen and notebook for beside my bed to jot notes down so I could get some freakin' sleep. It was always an exciting challenge in the morning to try to decipher the stuff I'd scrawled across the page in the dark." (Ibid--Emphasis in original).

After she wrote her books, Meyers relates that "Edward" came to her in a dream to let her know he wasn't good. She told Entertainment Weekly, "(Edward told me) I had gotten it wrong, and he did drink blood like every other vampire and you couldn't live on animals the way I'd written it. We had this conversation and it was terrifying." (Emphasis mine). 

5. Leading to Immorality.
Lucid dreams give the dreamer total freedom. If you want to fly, you can fly. If you want to talk with George Washington, you can talk with George Washington (or at least the George Washington you consciously create in your dreams). If you want to have an affair with your neighbor…welcome to mortal sin.  If we are aware, and if we can choose our own adventure, so to speak, those choices in our dreams have eternal consequences. Unlike a typical dream that comes about without our consent and over which we have no control, the lucid dream would carry moral significance. "“But I say to you that whoever looks on a woman, to lust after her, has committed adultery with her already in his heart." (St. Matthew 5:28). 

Conclusion
If, by chance, you have a lucid dream, you have not done anything wrong. To actively pursue and try to cultivate such dreams is intimately bound with unproven assertions, such as psychological healing (at best), and occult practices, like pagan meditation (at worst). Instead of chasing lucid dreams, redouble your Traditionalist Catholic prayer life to get to Heaven. To be successful at that goal will get you happiness beyond your wildest dreams. "But, as it is written: That eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither hath it entered into the heart of man, what things God hath prepared for them that love Him." (1 Corinthians 2:9). 

77 comments:

  1. After reading this article, I am sure I want to get an exorcist because some dreams are good, some are bad. Father Augustine Walz will visit my province this early June.

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    1. Ryan,
      Just because you have bad dreams doesn't mean they come from Satan or his demons. Don't worry needlessly. If you want to discuss it with Fr. Walz, please do so--and follow his advice!

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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  2. Occultism is so present in our time and, as I told you in a private message, it's a consequence of the Great Apostasy. As for the dreams I have at night, I forget them the next day. As you say, we mustn't dwell on them, but keep in mind the ultimate goal of life, which is the beatific vision.

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  3. Can you name any other books you used in your writing.

    Do you have many books in your personal library for research on the subject of the occult?

    S.B

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    1. S.B.
      1. Besides those referenced in this post, I used "Lucid Dreaming, Waking Life: Unlocking the Power of Your Sleep" by Elliot Riley (2020); and "A Field Guide to Lucid Dreaming: Mastering the Art of Oneironautics" (2013) by Tucchillo, et. al---to name but two.

      2. Yes. I'm always adding to that section!

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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  4. Catholic theology and philosophy teach that the rational mind is not conscious during sleep. This is why all moral theologians teach that a person is not responsible for the actions he does in a dream, for good or bad.

    Therefore lucid dreaming is contrary to Catholic teaching and cannot take place. The most likely explanation for this phenomenon is that the person thinks they know they are dreaming in the dream, but their "knowledge" that they are in a dream and are "controlling" the dream are actually just part of the dream, and none of it is actually conscious at all.

    If a person could have a lucid dream in which he could control his actions consciously and rationally, then he would be obliged to confess whatever sins he committed in the lucid dream. But this is obviously not the case. Therefore lucid dreams are not real in the sense they are commonly understood, but are simply an illusion.

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    1. @anon7:10
      I'm in basic agreement with you. However, these are not really dreams (properly so-called) but induced altered states of consciousness in most all cases. hence, the danger of demonic possession.

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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    2. I don't think something that happens when one is asleep is an altered state of consciousness. It is just a dream. I'd love to see if you can provide any theologian who says someone can be morally culpable for an act committed in a dream. I strongly doubt anyone ever has.

      If you don't believe me, try this experiment: Ask your traditional priest if he would give absolution to someone for a sin the person committed in a dream. If the person only confessed an act he did in a dream, would the priest be able to give him absolution on that basis? I'm sure he would tell you that this would not be valid matter for confession.

      The Catholic idea is quite simple: What someone does in a dream is not a human act, and not morally imputable. There is no such thing as a dream in which someone can be both asleep and conscious at the same time. Therefore there is no such thing as a lucid dream in the ordinary meaning of the term.

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    3. @anon2:31
      There is now a body of scientific research that suggests lucid dreams are real, and even correlated to meditation (ASC).
      See, e.g., https://www.psypost.org/long-term-meditators-experience-lucid-dreams-more-frequently-study-finds/.

      It is very disingenuous to ask me to cite a theologian who states you can sin in a dream, as this knowledge was not available pre-Vatican II. It’s like asking to cite a theologian who wrote about sinful uses for AI.

      The Catholic moral PRINCIPLES remain the same; if the dream is involuntary there is no sin. However, if you do have control over the dream as in an ASC, you WOULD be responsible since it is now a VOLUNTARY thought.

      —-Introibo

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  5. To all those in the United States, Happy Memorial Day today! May the souls of all the beloved dead and all those who served in the armed forces rest in peace.

    -TradWarrior

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    1. TradWarrior,
      A sentiment I agree with wholeheartedly! Pray for the repose of the souls of those lost in battle.

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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    2. So many men have died on the battlefield that we may now live our lives in relative peace and freedom. For how long? God only knows.
      Thank you both for remembering them in your prayers!

      God Bless all who visit this site,
      Joanna

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  6. Hey Introbio this is off topic, but I'm curious if you have every heard of the W.F. Strojie? If you have what are your thoughts about his theory? It seems like a combination of the Cassiacum thesis, R&R taken to an extreme, but I have very little understanding on it.

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    1. @anon8:40
      Aside from Teresa Benns and a few others, I don't know many in the HA movement. Strojie was apparently a Home Aloner. See the comment of S.B. below.

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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  7. Dreams are a strange phenomenon. I have had lucid dreams in the past where I was in a dream and I knew it was a dream. I remember one occurrence where I didn’t like the dream but I knew that I would eventually wake up. Other times, I have had dreams that came true. At different times in my life, I have been prescient and foresaw things happening before they occurred. While this has happened many times to me when I was conscious, there were times when it occurred while I was dreaming. It has happened more than a few times. During one such occurrence, I had a dream of a certain tragedy taking place. The dream was very vivid and real. Two weeks later, the tragedy occurred in real life. There were other occurrences similar to this I had too in different ways. I have had similar dreams that occur every now and again and then I have had the exact same dream that occurs every few years. Why these things occur is beyond me?

    Some people have night terrors which are far worse. There are stories of sleepwalkers and people having night terrors where they do reckless things and are physically injured, yet their adrenaline is so high they don’t feel any pain from the incident, almost as if they were high on a drug or demonically possessed. There are many interesting and true stories of such occurrences. One particular story that comes to mind was a detective in California. He took pride in the fact that there was no case that he could not solve. There was a murder that took place and he tried to solve it. As time went on, he finally solved the mystery that puzzled him for a while. He realized that he was the murderer and killed the person when he was sleepwalking.

    It is true that God can send us messages in our dreams, although this is not usually the case. There are also dreams that can come from demons, especially if one has opened themselves up to the demonic and occult. Then there are just dreams that are so goofy, they make absolutely no sense at all. The world is full of many wonders that we will never understand in this life.

    -TradWarrior

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    1. I appreciate your comments Trad Warrior! I have had many premonition dreams myself. Some involving the death of my parents. And some involving church matters! So crazy! I even woke up recently with a message my family member in danger and a few minutes later my sister called me to tell me our brother in emergency room. When I was leaving the NO church, I even sensed Mary asking me to be with her on her team so to speak because time was running out. Mary was mobilizing her troops. Who knows. Many mysteries!

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  8. The Novus Ordo’s and R & R’s appear to live in a dream world. They feel that they live in reality when the reality of the situation is that the Sedevacantists live in the reality that the church can never defect, nor can a heretic be pope. The dream world is where the Novus Ordo’s and R & R’s live, though they cannot see this. They cannot think abstractly. I am reminded of the debate from 2004 between Bishop Sanborn and Dr. Fastiggi.

    Fastiggi: There is nothing in the documents of Vatican II to deny these wonderful fruits.

    Sanborn: Wonderful fruits? [looking at Fastiggi as if the guy is for real]

    Fastiggi: The Catholic faith has grown in African since the council.

    Sanborn: [Laughs].

    Fastiggi: You laugh your way to the judgment of God through your schism. The devil laughs too.

    Sanborn: Dr. Fastiggi, I don’t think it serves your purpose to attack me personally. It’s not very ecumenical of you.

    You can take the most brilliant Novus Ordo theologians on the planet and shown them a side by side comparison column of the pre-Vatican II and post-Vatican II teachings and the Novus Ordo theologian will see no contradiction. To him, it is a hermeneutic of continuity between pre and post Vatican II. To the Sedevacantist, it is clear that there are literally tons and tons of heresies and the reality of the situation could not be any clearer. To the Novus Ordo, their reality is what they believe the situation to be, not what it really is. It is subjectivism at the highest level, even though objective reality couldn’t be any clearer to the one who has the grace to see the situation for what it ACTUALLY is, not what one wants it to be.

    “God provides the wind, Man must raise the sail.” –St. Augustine

    “Most men seem to live according to sense rather than reason.” –St. Thomas Aquinas

    -TradWarrior

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    1. Funny I saw this right after reading your Sanborn quotes.
      https://unamsanctamcatholicam.blogspot.com/2025/03/book-review-is-african-catholicism.html?m=1

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    2. This is the Novus Ordo religion that has grown up in Africa since Vatican 2 and the prayers of “saint” JP2 the Great Apostate in communion with pagans. The V2 religion is a caricature of Catholicism and we can see that the majority of people have believed in it.

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    3. TradWarrior,

      I watched snippets of that debate a long time ago.
      I wonder whether Robert Fastiggi really believed what he had said about the "wonderful fruits" of Vatican 2. I guess you have to be a) temporarily devoid of reason or b) deceiving yourself for whatever reason to utter such nonsense. But then again, Fastiggi is all over the place theologically as he strives to save the face of Vatican 2 at the expense of the principle of non-contradiction.

      During the debate's Q&A time, a young Novus Ordo presbyter effectively compaired the papacy to a sacrament (sic!), arguing that it would be a donatist heresy to call the current man in white in the Vatican a heretic because baptism administered by heretics is still a valid baptism and a successor of Peter moving from Rome to Avingnon is still a successor of Peter. Does anyone follow the train of thought of that Novus Ordo "priest"? He ended his confounded line of reasoning by charging Bp. Sanborn with donatism. Bp. Sanborn immediately asked him to clarify what he had meant by the sacramental reality of the Roman Pontiff. He tried to explain himself by saying that the Pope as bishop of Rome has the sacrament of holy orders and stood there confounded as Bp. Sanborn elaborated on how this is not necessarily the case via Gregory XVI, consecrated a bishop after having been elected as pope.
      I guess it was quite a humiliating experience for that unfortunate Novus Ordo clergyman to have his argument demolished in a jiffy by Bp. Sanborn. Goes to show how useless Novus Ordo seminaries are when it comes to theological training of their clergy. No matter how much Aquinas those seminarians are able to digest in their free time, they are bound to get it mingled with Vatican 2 theological newspeak.

      Interestingly, Bp. Sanborn mentions Pope Paul IV as exemplifying the constant teaching of the Church that a heretic cannot be Pope. This was back in 2004 so well before the Thesis as we know it now.

      God Bless You,
      Joanna

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    4. Hi Joanna,

      Thank you for the nice post. You said so many things so well in your writing that I really cannot say much more than what you already typed!

      Your comments about Dr. Fastiggi are spot on. The fact that he threw some temper tantrums in that debate too only hurt his cause even more. When you start doing that, it is pretty apparent that you are losing the debate. The young Novus Ordo priest was just trying to be slick but Bishop Sanborn handled his arguments very well and refuted him pretty effortlessly. Like you said, he was “demolished in a jiffy.” Quite right! You make a very salient point when you said that no matter how much Aquinas the Vatican II seminarians read and study, it is mixed in with Vatican II theology, so the end result is never good. You are also correct when you said that Fastiggi is all over the place theologically as he strives to save the face of Vatican II at the expense of the principle of non-contradiction. Fastiggi is always mentioning non-contradiction, yet he can’t see the numerous contradictions of pre and post Vatican II teachings, which are so rampant everywhere. It is so ubiquitous to Sedevacantists, but not to this man. It’s crazy really.

      Several years ago, Fastiggi made a comment that Pope Francis was really quite orthodox, it was just one or two things that he said on the airplane that were confusing. How does one not laugh at such a ridiculous statement! He has also recently said that he misses Pope Francis since he died but that he knew that he wouldn’t be pope forever. He even said he saw a lot of similarities between Pope St. Pius X and Pope Francis and that they were really quite similar. And this guy is considered a top notch Vatican II theologian! It’s like saying that there are so many similarities between St. Francis de Sales and Jack the Ripper or St. Alphonsus Liguori and Ted Bundy. Vatican II seminarians believe that this guy is one of the best professors around today. What more can one say?

      -TradWarrior

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    5. St. Francis & Jack the Ripper, St. Alphonsus & Ted Bundy! What comparisons, lol! Thanks, I needed a laugh. I know very little of Dr. Fastiggi, but I've been given a good taste of his theology from you two. St. Pius X & Jorge?! I think I'm having difficulty deciding which comparison is the most ridiculous.

      Good comments, all. God Bless.
      -S.T.

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  9. Hello Anom May 26,2025 8.40pm

    Mr Bill Strojie was a homealoner who lived I think in the state of Oregon.I have most of his writings.He was against CMRI and the SSPX.

    God bless
    S.B

    Introibo,have you heard of an the late Hugo Maria Kellner who wrote numbers of articles back in the 70's.He was also following the home alone movement.He live in upstate New York near Rochester

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    1. S.B.
      I'm not familiar with most Home Aloners. Of course I know about Teresa Benns, and a couple of others, but not with most. Thank you for the information!

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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    2. In my experience most home aloners are not people who are trying to follow every word of canon law. They are usually people who are too lazy to drive to Mass on Sunday, too stingy to want to contribute to their church, too prideful to be told what to do in their moral lives by a priest, and don't want to have to listen to the Church in general.

      Home aloneism is just an excuse to live like a pagan while pretending to be traditional Catholic.

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    3. @anon3:48
      That may indeed be true of many of them. Some are led astray by sophistical arguments by those like Teresa Benns.

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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    4. Pretty harsh comment above about so called home aloners. Many are this status because we have no choice and are not lazy! I lost my income and home from adopting my position...I am single woman no husband. I am dismayed by people like you. I built a chapel in my home for Him and recruited priests and gave all! My own family dismissed me. People like you who do nothing and lost nothing speak so loud...where are you defending the weak old women like me? So aggravating. Thanks for honesty.

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    5. @anon9:42
      “Home Aloner” as a label has been used among Traditionalists to denote those who believe that in the time of Great Apostasy, there are no “canonically proper” clergy that can be approached for the Sacraments. They will not go to any Traditionalist Chapel regardless of proximity.

      It is not really meant to describe those Traditionalists who would love to go to Mass, but extreme distance combined with either sickness or old age leave them with no choice but to be Home Alone except maybe on rare occasions when a priest can visit for Confession and Communion. It is not these people who you are referring to that are the subject of the exchange (at least not on my part). Some may claim “we can’t go to Traditionalist clergy” as an excuse to escape the hardship of long travel to Mass.

      God Bless,

      —-Introibo

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  10. When I was younger, I used to have disaster dreams semi-frequently and kind of weird post-apocalyptic type settings sometimes. They slowed and basically stopped from the late '90's to the 00's. Seems they were not needed anymore after I found Our Lady of Fatima then sedevacantism later.

    Generally they're just off the wall with impossible architectural arrangements for example.

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    1. cairsahr__stjoseph
      Sometimes a dream is but a dream!

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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  11. Off topic but a while back i asked what Easter water was and Fr Jenkins answered on his show last night fyi. Very clear and well beyond what folks responded.
    Father answers your question in last night's episode starting at the 1:02:43 mark here: https://youtu.be/ceRrBrZt6iM?si=dM7qh71emoun58Tt&t=3763

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    1. @anon5:11
      Fr. Jenkin's answer was in-depth and correct. However, I do not recommend Fr. Jenkins' answers to people. While he is good at things of a general nature (e.g., Easter water, indulgences, etc.) he is way off on important matters like the so-called Thuc bishops. I also listened to his answer to the question "Was Our Lady and the Apostles Baptized?"

      His answer as regards the Blessed Mother poses an opinion as fact. Fr. claimed that the BVM died because she wanted to be like her Divine Son in all things. This is the majority opinion of the theologians, but a significant minority (including Fr. DePauw) hold that Our Lady never died. Pope Pius XII specifically had the verbiage of the definition of Our Lady's Assumption changed.

      The original draft read :
      "...by the authority of our Lord Jesus Christ, of the Blessed Apostles Peter and Paul, and by our own authority, we pronounce, declare, and define it to be a divinely revealed dogma: that the Immaculate Mother of God, the ever Virgin Mary, having died, was assumed body and soul into heavenly glory. "

      His Holiness directed theologian (later Bishop) Michel-Louis Guerard des Lauriers to change it to the form he infallibly promulgated:

      " by the authority of our Lord Jesus Christ, of the Blessed Apostles Peter and Paul, and by our own authority, we pronounce, declare, and define it to be a divinely revealed dogma: that the Immaculate Mother of God, the ever Virgin Mary, having completed the course of her earthly life, was assumed body and soul into heavenly glory."

      The reference to her death was removed as he would not define it--it was still open to theological debate. Yet, Fr. Jenkins made it sound like her death was a fact when it is not.

      Therefore, I do not recommend Fr. Jenkins to my readers for answers.

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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    2. Interesting amd thank you! Well, he brought me to sede land and so many of these poor priests are unreliable I guess. Sanborn is a joke. I have learned much from Fr J but if he is wrong too...sad and scary for those of us just trying to adhere to Truth. I know sede priests who refuse to read your blog, saying you too are untrustworthy/in error. So hard to discern everything and everyone!i

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      It's not easy without a hierarchy, but we must make our best Catholic way.

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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    4. Introibo, thank you again for another informative post on the occult. I hadn’t heard the term lucid dreaming.

      It saddens me to read the continuous criticisms in the comments here and elsewhere, often outright disrespectful, about Bishop Sanborn. I haven’t formed a final opinion yet on sedeprivationism, but his preaching and teaching are solid and often inspiring. He’s far from being a “joke.”

      As you say, it’s not easy without a hierarchy. Anyway, here’s a link to a recent sermon he gave on “Leo XIV” in which he offers an excellent historical background on the Modernist heresy.
      https://youtu.be/852I-vDP3d8?si=2AphRw6FdFhYrqnZ

      Alanna

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    5. Are you sure Fr Jenkins correct? About Easter water? I asked this blog and no one gave his answer and most said they do not know, including you Introibo. I just want the Truth.

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    6. Alanna,
      Yes, I think we should be more kind to Traditionalist clergy with whom we disagree. Bp. Sanborn is not a joke (and the commenter wrote back to say the same), even though I disagree with him on sedeprivationism.

      Thank you for the link!

      God Bless,

      —-Introibo

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    7. @anon8:15
      I’m reasonably sure Fr Jenkins was correct in this matter because (1) he is well informed about the basics of Church holy objects and (2) I subsequently found a pamphlet published by the Archdiocese of New York in 1962, and the answer given was very close to Father Jenkins in the video. I have not had the time to look through my entire library to research the answer.

      God Bless,

      —-Introibo

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  12. Raised atheist, as a young adult I used to hold seances in my room and, something stayed. It would assail me at night (dead weight on the chest, making it impossible both to breathe, in a semi-state of consciousness but unable to move; limbs like lead) and the last time, when I jolly near expired, I managed to move, get up and got down on my knees and prayed "Jesus! We've never met, though I beg Thee to help me, please make this go away and not come back!"

    And He did. A decade or so later I became an Anglican, a decade later a N.O., a several years later FSSP and, several years on, Sede.

    God guides us out of error and in His own time. Benedictus Deus.

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    1. Absolutely beautiful! And not surprising. But we cannot live our lives in sin and hope for extraordinary graces on our death bed. There are examples in scripture where one would sin his whole life and be forgiven at the end and another live a good life and be condemned to hell over one sin. I think of the Good Thief of course, and in the Old Testament, there was a good father of not so good sons and seemingly may have been damned for not reprehending them enough.

      As scripture says, God has mercy on whom he has mercy. "Is your evil because I have done good." God's ways are above our ways. As high as the heavens are about the earth are God's ways above our ways. The devil committed one sin and was damned forever. Adam committed one sin, and it cost him 900 years of penance, and learning that one of his sons killed another of his sons, in cold blood, for no reason, etc.

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      What an incredible path through which God led you! By His grace and your cooperation, you came to the Truth!

      Thank you for commenting!

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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    3. @anon3:34am

      Thank you for sharing your wonderful conversion story. Yes, you are correct; God certainly guides us in His own time. I hope you continue to write posts here on Introibo’s blog.

      God Bless you,

      -TradWarrior

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    4. Yes John Gregory! So worried! I was born 1968 novus ordo amd never had valid sacraments...so scary! My sins much worse so how can most of us be saved? St Alphonsus clearly teaches thattGod sets a limit ro the number of sins He permits and forgives nothing after that limit reached! So terrifying! Most go to hell so how do we have any hope in this apostasy? I only know people who are "nice" to prots...to go along to get along. No one is with Him...only against Him.

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    5. @anon3:34am,

      Great story! God Bless.

      @anon7:17,

      I think about what St. Alphonsus says on that topic now and then - probably not enough. Yes, very frightening. I think two things can be true however - that there is a limit to the number (only God knows), and that He exhibits perfect mercy and justice. If the limit is reached, there was no hope, ultimately. As in, that person, by his own devices, was destined for his sad end by his own will and actions. That said, we should still be worried! During this time of preparation for Pentacost Sunday, let us all pray for the Holy Ghost's gift of a fear of the Lord.

      -S.T.

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    6. Yes! 🙏🙏🙏
      Come Holy Ghost!
      Confirm me in my Faith!
      Sanctify and save me though undeserving and wretched. Help us!

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  13. Wow! Amazing journey! Thanks for sharing!

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  14. Introibo
    Regarding Father Jenkins.I agree with you 100%.He calls into doubt even the ordinations to the priesthood of the late Bishops Daniel Dolan and Richard Williamson.He has pushed his anti Thuc Bishop stance for decades.I am somewhat disappointed with him.I find it interesting that he is the only priest to appear on What Catholics Believe program.What about Father Greenwell for a change.

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      Fr. Greenwell offered Mass extremely irreverently and quickly. Some people said he had gotten better. I hope so for his sake and those he serves.

      When he was in NY I would actually refrain from going to Communion because he would say the Words of Consecration so quickly, I felt it was possible he garbled the form enough that it might be invalid. If that is no longer the case, Deo gratias, that’s wonderful news and I’m happy for Fr and his congregation.

      God Bless,

      —-Introibo

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  15. Is ascension Thursday a holiday of obligation

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    1. @anon6:58
      Yes in the United States.

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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    2. What about Europe? Does anyone know about specific countries where Ascension Thursday was NOT a holy day before Vatican 2?

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      That I do not know. Maybe another commenter from Europe could answer.

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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  16. I have heard a sermon or 2 of Fr Greenwell, not impressed.
    Introibo, who are some reliable priests we can trust? I would prefer priests that don't subscribe to the Thesis. Thank you!
    Also, I consider covid vaxxed priests to be compromised and avoided.

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      In my opinion, the priests of the SSPV (except Frs. Jenkins and Greenwell) are reliable, as are the two bishops. Fr. Benedict Hughes and Fr Gabriel Lavery are also excellent priests who can be trusted.

      Please note that while the official position of the SSPV is still against Thuc bishops, most no longer enforce it and really don’t talk about it, except for Fr. Jenkins. I believe they are wrong on the rejection of the Pian Holy Week, but they do not condemn Traditionalist priests who do use it.

      God Bless,

      —-Introibo

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    2. Thank you so much! God bless!

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  17. I have just finished watching a youtube video interview of a former Traditional Catholic who started as a Indult Mass supporter to the SSPX for many years then a sedevacantist.He left and joined the Russian Orthodox Church where he is now a priest in Arizona.In the future is there a chance you could write a list of major errors of this Church.He said there was no unity in the Traditional Catholic world when there is in Russian Orthodoxy?
    God bless
    Jane

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    1. Jane,
      That would be an excellent post. I can’t promise exactly when, but it will be a future subject!

      God Bless,

      —-Introibo

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  18. Sorry to call Sanborn a joke...but if others like Jenkins can't be trusted, how can Sanborn? He laughs alot in his answers to people. Jenkins never laughs,, as though this is all, well,, a light situation. That is a sign that is not good. These are extremely difficult times where almost no one knows any truth and some who do are steering us in the wrong direction. Sanborn has confused me completely with his Thesis explanations and other sede priests who counsel me advise the exact same as to their confusion with Sanborn! So I am not insane. However, I agree I should not call him a joke. Just trying to use my limited vocabulary to express my thoughts. God bless all! Including Sanborn! I have learned much from him but the Thesis stuff has sent me over the edge of...what.. I don't know! There are no words to describe this situation succintly and clearly in my humble opinion.

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    1. So it's a sin to laugh now? Man alive.

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    2. I guess I could have called him a joker, instead of a joke. Although he doesn't tell any good joked. No, not a sin to laugh in my opinion but when you laugh at the matters he is always discussing, I think it is quite odd. They are very serious matters. Matters of salvation. People who laugh a lot in their discussions may not be trustworthy. I cannot recall any other priests I follow that are constantly laughing in their discussions. I know detectives who also say that laughing is a deflection from the truth.

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    3. Anonymous May 31, 2025 at 5:11:

      We all have different personalities, we come from different backgrounds, have our own likes and dislikes. Bishop Sanborn is a very intelligent and erudite clergyman, focused on training his seminarians according to pre-Vatican 2 Catholic seminary standards as close as possible in these horrible times. I am a dyed-in-the-wool sedevacantist open to the Thesis but not convinced by it and hope we get the right answer to the current crisis from the Magisterium someday (am I too hopeful?).

      Priests and bishops have their mannerisms, like we all do. We need to be understanding of each other and our respective little quirks. This is coming from someone struggling with uncharitableness and disappointment with some Traditionalist clergy and laity so I guess I see where you're coming from too, my friend.
      Praying for you and all who visit this fine blog!

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      Well stated!

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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    5. Thanks for the comments! It is difficult these days but I try my best to live the Truth in charity. God bless all!

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  19. Hello Introibo

    What are your thoughts on bishop Fellay?Do you think he is still working behind the scenes to join up the SSPX with the Novus Ordo sect.When ever we see videos of him talking,we get a sick gut feeling that something is not right.He has not said a word about Leo XIV since his so called "election"What does that tell you.Why the silence.We are sure many in the SSPX pews are not happy.Keep up the fine work.

    New family reading your website

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      I think Bp. Fellay’s R&R theology is doing him in. Bergoglio gave the SSPX “jurisdiction” for Confession and Matrimony, and he’s looking to keep it and add more. Eventually, the SSPX must embrace sedevacantism or end up as a side chapel in the V2 sect’s temple of indifferentism.

      God Bless,

      —-Introibo

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  20. Introibo,

    I honestly don’t think Fr. Jenkins believes what he says about the Thuc line anymore. Given how many people go to Thuc line priests and bishops. It makes you wonder if he is just repeating it out of pride at this point.

    I think there other personal vendettas at play going back to the split within the SSPV. The Thuc line was just one of them that happened to be at the forefront of it.

    Jeremy Van Auker

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    1. Jeremy,
      I often wonder if it’s pride that keeps Fr. Jenkins repeating the anti- Thuc rhetoric. You make a very valid point!

      God Bless,

      —-Introibo

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  21. https://youtu.be/X-3MgHb6Uts?si=ty4h3QKvksPsfnXO

    Does anyone know this channel? It showed up in my feed today. Fascinating story. Amazing how quick someone figured out NO false/evil so quick and he was on brink of suicide. He also mentioned a lucid dream as part of his miracle conversion. I think he was just using the term loosely.
    Blessed Sunday to all!

    Does anyone have first hand knowledge of Fr Daniel Ahern? Is he a trustworthy priest?

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    1. Fr. Daniel Ahern is a very trustworthy priest. He was the first priest I attended with when I left the Novus Ordo.

      He was ordained by Archbishop Lefebvre.

      I attend his chapel sometimes in Carrollton, Virginia. I found him to be a very caring priest. He works with just about everyone I noticed such as Bishop McGuire, Bishop Sanborn, and Bishop Roy up in Canada.

      I can assure you he is trustworthy. May God Bless you.

      Jeremy Van Auker

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    2. God bless you too Jeremy! Thank you so much for information, I am very grateful!

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    3. I believe that youtube channel is a sedevacantist one, and that the creator has possibly been on Catholic Family Podcast. To my knowledge it is safe.

      -S.T.

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    4. Thank you S T!

      Can all please say an Ave for a young man who jumped off a bridge yesterday. I know over 400 dead from vaxx, NOers, and it never ends. So much devastation and all still not awake at all...thank you! God bless all!

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  22. Introibo,

    Thank you for your post. A reminder to stay away from all things related to the occult. There are innumerable dangers out there for those who do not know, or do not want to know, the Faith.

    God Bless,
    -Seeking Truth

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    1. Seeking Truth,
      The "Occult Invasion/Revival/Explosion" is very real and very dangerous. I feel I need to keep my readers informed by exposing it wherever it may arise.

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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