Monday, August 3, 2026

Contending For The Faith---Part 54

In St. Jude 1:3, we read, "Dearly beloved, taking all care to write unto you concerning your common salvation, I was under a necessity to write unto you: to beseech you to contend earnestly for the faith once delivered to the saints." [Emphasis mine]. Contending For The Faith is a series of posts dedicated to apologetics (i.e.,  the intellectual defense of the truth of the Traditional Catholic Faith) to be published the first Monday of each month.  This is the next installment.

Sadly, in this time of Great Apostasy, the faith is under attack like never before, and many Traditionalists don't know their faith well enough to defend it. Remember the words of our first pope, "But in your hearts revere Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect..." (1Peter 3:16). There are five (5) categories of attacks that will be dealt with in these posts. Attacks against:
  • The existence and attributes of God
  • The truth of the One True Church established by Christ for the salvation of all 
  • The truth of a particular dogma or doctrine of the Church
  • The truth of Catholic moral teaching
  • The truth of the sedevacantist position as the only Catholic solution to what has happened since Vatican II 
In addition, controversial topics touching on the Faith will sometimes be featured, so that the problem and possible solutions may be better understood. If anyone had suggestions for topics that would fall into any of these categories, you may post them in the comments. I cannot guarantee a post on each one, but each will be carefully considered.

Some Common Arguments Against the Existence of God Refuted
In this week's post, I will respond to some commonly used arguments by atheists against the existence of God. These are the short, snappy "arguments" (more akin to quips than anything serious) that unbelievers often use to stump Traditionalists and other theists. I will give a terse response to each, so that you may have a ready comeback and see the "argument" for what it really is--a fallacy. On one point--"the universe had no beginning"--I discuss it more so the science can be comprehended along with the philosophical application. I take no credit for the answers. All I did was make the answers given by great thinkers (Aquinas and others) into a terse, readable post.

God bless you all, my dear readers.---Introibo
 

Atheist Objection: “Can God create a rock so heavy he can’t lift it?”

Reply: This question seems to have only two possible responses. Either He cannot create it, in which case He is not omnipotent; or He can create the rock, but cannot lift it, in which case again He is not omnipotent. In both cases, God is not omnipotent. However, God has to be omnipotent; therefore, He does not exist. This is wrong as it is based on a false premise. God's omnipotence does not mean the ability to do anything, but rather the ability to do anything that does not contradict His essence/attributes.

God cannot lie because He is Truth itself. In the instant case, God is the greatest possible Being. Therefore, there can be nothing that, in any aspect, is greater than God, because then He would not be the greatest possible Being. Such a rock is a contradiction incapable of being realized--just as there can never be a "married bachelor." 

Atheist Objection: “A perfect God could not have created an imperfect world. Since the world is obviously imperfect, God does not exist.”

Reply: Two responses: (1) God did create a perfect world and it was made imperfect by Original Sin. (2) God can create imperfect things in order to lead them over time to a state of perfection. In this view, man (who is not a “thing” but a being) is not born complete. He can study, educate himself, grow, achieve things, and in so doing determine what he will be later on in eternity through what he freely decides to do with his life on Earth. Only machines, which are tools, are expected to be perfect and complete at the moment of their creation. Man, by contrast, is a free being, and this means that he has the privilege of evolving and perfecting himself over time.

As to the material aspect of the Universe, a perfect Universe is either deterministic or has already reached its end. However, ours is neither, for the moment.

Atheist Objection: “If God is omniscient and knows the future, man is not free; if, on the other hand, God does not know everything, He is not all-knowing and therefore does not exist.”

Reply: Knowing the future is not the same as causing the future. For example, you may be standing up on a large hill. You see two cars speeding towards each other coming from opposite sides of the hill, where neither driver can see the other car. Given their speed and direction, you know they will crash a few seconds before it happens. Yet it was the free will of the drivers to go past the speed limit which caused the accident, not your knowledge of what would happen as a result.

Atheist Objection: “The Universe is self-sufficient. It does not need a cause.”

Reply: Atheists cannot escape the scientific fact that the Universe did have a beginning. It is expained by the Big Bang Theory. (BBT).

 I find it sad that, here in America, there are many people who do not understand the difference between a scientific theory and a scientific law. The common (and incorrect) notion is that a theory is a "hunch" or an "idea." A law is something true. Scientific theories can become scientific laws with enough facts proving them true. All of this is wrong.

Just as theology has words with specific meanings within the discipline, so does science. A scientific theory is a description of the natural world that scientists have arrived at by means of rigorous testing. It tries to explain the "why" about something. Scientific laws explain the "what" that has always been observed and tested. So, for example, gravity is both a theory and a law. The law of gravity explains what happens between objects depending on mass and distance. Laws also usually describe what happens in the terms of a mathematical formula. 

An accepted theory is the one that has the most evidence in its favor from multiple sources. Both theories and laws can change when/if new evidence is found which causes the theory or law to be undermined or in need of revision due to the newly discovered evidence. The BBT is not some "hunch" that isn't true because it's not a law. It is the best scientific theory backed up by multiple lines of evidence as to the origin of the universe. Over 98% of cosmologists, and over 95% of all scientists subscribe to it because of the evidence.

Of course, the usual objection to follow is the disparaging of science by declaring that the scientific establishment gave us COVID vaccines and climate change nonsense. While science can be abused and misused, two points must be made: (1) most scientific advances have been genuine and wonderful. Think of neurosurgery that routinely saves lives and wasn't available a mere 40 years ago. (2) the establishment has every reason to be against the BBT because it was discovered and promoted by Catholics, and it points to God. 

The Catholic Origin of the Big Bang

Father Georges Lemaitre (1894-1966), a Roman Catholic priest and physicist from Belgium, was the scientist who proposed the BBT. The notion that the universe had a beginning did not sit well with many at that time. Some were even disgusted by it. Renowned English astronomer and physicist Arthur Eddington said that “philosophically, the notion of a beginning to the present order of Nature is repugnant.” (See Arthur S. Eddington, “The End of the World: From the Standpoint of Mathematical Physics,” Nature 127 (March 21, 1931): 447–53).Notice that Eddington didn’t claim the science was bad or that these new scientific discoveries were repugnant. Rather, he was bothered by the philosophical implications of the discovery.

The prevailing scientific theory in cosmology prior to Fr. Lemaitre, was The Steady State Theory (SST), which claimed the universe always existed from eternity. The Communists and other atheists loved the SST because if someone asked, "What created the universe?" the answer was straightforward---"The universe was always there. It didn't need or have a creator." Fr. Lemaitre's theory was met with derision and horror by Communists/atheists. A beginning of the universe clearly implied a Creator. The question of how the universe was created was back on the table. 

Schools in Communist countries banned the teaching of the BBT so young Communists wouldn't doubt atheism. In fact, it was an opponent of the theory, Sir Fred Hoyle, who coined the name for Lemaitre’s theory, referring to it mockingly as “this big bang idea” during a radio broadcast. Over the years, many theories were proposed to get rid of this “definite beginning” of the universe, and a war of theories was waged until, finally, in the 1960s, the BBT displaced the SST as the accepted cosmological theory. (N.B. Although the formal SST was developed by Hoyle in response to the BBT that he so hated, it was held that the universe was "always there" --a form of the SST--a long time prior. Einstein himself subscribed to it until Fr. Lemaitre's work changed his mind). 

Note well why Hoyle rejected the BBT; he was an atheist and anti-Catholic.

Hoyle did not want to believe that the universe was created from a big bang, because that would imply that there was a creator, and to him, that idea wasn’t a possibility because he was an atheist. He believed that, “religion is but a desperate attempt to find an escape from the truly dreadful situation in which we find ourselves…No wonder then that many people feel the need for some belief that gives them a sense of security, and no wonder that they become very angry with people like me who say that this is illusory” (positiveatheism.org). His belief, in his own words, was that “‘every cluster of galaxies, every star, every atom...had a beginning, but the universe, itself, did not’” (Willick 2003). This is why he proposed that the universe has been around forever, and that we were not created from some all powerful deity, but from the right combinations of heavy elements that were fused through the nuclear reactions that take place in the center of stars, a process that he named “nucleosynthesis."

(See csueastbay.edu/philosophy/reflections/2004/contents/jon-brix.html; Emphasis mine). 

This puts the lie to the contention that the BBT was "used by atheists to deny God" as some assert. It is actually the opposite---it was opposed by atheists in academic circles until the manifest weight of the credible evidence was too great to hold the BBT back from acceptance. An assertion by those who oppose the BBT on religious grounds is an ad hominem attack on Fr. Lemaitre as a "Modernist." This is rank calumny. Father was never under suspicion of Modernism or any heresy by the Holy Office. He was praised by Popes Pius XI and Pius XII.

In 1951, Pius XII gave an address to the Pontifical Academy of Sciences entitled “The Proofs for the Existence of God in the Light of Modern Natural Science,” offering an enthusiastic endorsement of the theory with Fr. Lemaitre present in a place of honor.

With the same clear and critical look with which it examines and passes judgment on facts, it perceives and recognizes the work of creative omnipotence, whose power, set in motion by the mighty “Fiat” pronounced billions of years ago by the Creating Spirit, spread out over the universe, calling into existence with a gesture of generous love matter busting with energy. It would seem that present-day science, with one sweep back across the centuries, has succeeded in bearing witness to the august instant of the primordial Fiat Lux [Let there be Light], when along with matter, there burst forth from nothing a sea of light and radiation, and the elements split and churned and formed into millions of galaxies.

The Supreme Pontiff asserted that the BBT proved the existence of God.

Thus, with that concreteness which is characteristic of physical proofs, science has confirmed the contingency of the universe and also the well-founded deduction as to the epoch when the world came forth from the hands of the Creator.  Hence, creation took place.  We say: therefore, there is a Creator.  Therefore, God exists! (See ucatholic.com).

Evidence for the BBT

I strongly suggest reading the four page summary of evidence which I now condense. It comes from the University of Western Australia.

Two major scientific discoveries provide strong support for the Big Bang theory:

• Hubble’s discovery in the 1920s of a relationship between a galaxy’s distance from Earth and its speed; and

• the discovery in the 1960s of cosmic microwave background radiation

1. Early in the 20th century the Universe was thought to be static: always the same size, neither expanding nor contracting. But in 1924 astronomer Edwin Hubble used a technique pioneered by Henrietta Leavitt to measure distances to remote objects in the sky. Hubble used spectroscopic red-shift data to measure the speeds these objects were travelling then graphed their distance from Earth against their speed. He discovered that the speed at which astronomical objects move apart is proportional to their distance from each other. In other words, the farther away objects are from Earth, the faster they are moving away from us. This became known as Hubble’s law

2. According to the Big Bang theory, the Universe was initially very hot and dense. As it expanded, it cooled (your refrigerator works on the same idea, expanding a liquid into a gas to cool the inside). Cosmologists were able to calculate the theoretical temperature of today’s Universe and began to search for evidence of it.

It was eventually discovered by accident in 1964 by Arno Penzias and Robert Wilson as ‘noise’ in an antenna they had built to research how radio signals could be reflected off orbiting satellites. They first thought it was radio interference from nearby New York City, but eventually recognized it as radiation from beyond the Milky Way. The cosmic microwave background radiation (CMBR) that Penzias and Wilson observed is leftover heat radiation from the Big Bang. Today, CMBR is very cold due to expansion and cooling of the Universe. It’s only 2.725 Kelvin (-270.4 °C), which is only 2.725 °C above absolute zero. Cosmic microwave background radiation fills the entire Universe and can be detected day and night in every part of the sky.

(Condensed from "Evidence for The Big Bang;" uwa.edu.au/study/-/media/Faculties/Science/Docs/Evidence-for-the-Big-Bang.pdf).

Philosophical Argument for God from the BBT

The BBT shows that all which exists in the universe--all matter, energy, and even space and time itself--started from nothing in an amazing singularity approximately 13.8 billion years ago. The Kalam Cosmological Argument runs thus:

Premise 1: Everything which begins to exist must have a cause.

This is common sense and proven from all experience. No scientist (or anyone else) believes things pop into existence out of nothing. Atheists Lawrence Krauss and Stephen Hawking have redefined "nothing" to mean "space" and "gravity" respectively. This is disingenuous to say the least. If I say, "I had nothing for breakfast today." It means I didn't have anything. It doesn't mean I ate something and that something I call "nothing." Krauss and Hawking do NOT believe something comes from "not anything;" they just want to escape the beginning of the universe and its theistic implications.

Premise 2: The universe began to exist. 

This we know from the BBT. 

Conclusion: The universe has a cause.

It follows logically from the two premises. The First Cause must be space-less (because there was no space), timeless (because there was no time), immaterial (because there was no matter--or even energy), and a Mind of great Power (because if all the necessary and sufficient conditions for the universe to exist were present, then it would have existed from eternity--therefore, it must have been willed into existence at a certain point). You just described God. Welcome to theism.  

Objection: Then who created God? Answer: God wasn't created. Notice that the first premise is whatever begins to exist must have a cause. God, unlike the universe, is eternal. Moreover, the question is irrelevant. Once, I had a very bad gastrointestinal issue that couldn't be resolved. My doctors were stumped. One very intelligent gastroenterologist thought it was a rare bacteria that's hard to diagnose even with extensive tests.  The cure, if that was the cause, was to take a powerful medication for ten days, along with some other protocols. Desperate for a cure, I agreed. After the ten days, I was cured. When I asked him, "Where could I have gotten this bacterium?" he replied, "Who knows? The fact that the cure worked means we found the cause." Analogously, even if God "needs a creator" (He doesn't) it wouldn't mean He didn't create the universe.

Atheist Objection: "Religions have always been the cause of violence and wars.” 

Reply: Those who make this argument point out that religion has most often engendered war and violence. Consequently, as these religions have brought about evil, they cannot really be established by a good God. Ergo, the atheist asserts we can conclude either that God is evil or that He does not exist. Since the Church asserts that God cannot be evil, He must not exist. 

The premises of this argument are false, and we only have to look at the misfortunes of the twentieth century for ample evidence of this fact. The wars waged over the last century by dogmatic materialists were far more cruel, violent, prolonged, and lethal than all the religious wars of the past put together. 

The crimes and violence of Hitler, Stalin, Mao Zedong, and Pol Pot have no precedent in human history.

Phillips and Axelrod’s Encyclopedia of Wars cataloged 1,763 wars that have taken place throughout the history of humanity. Of these 1,763 wars, 123 were based on religious motives, or less than 7% of the total. Not only are the wars waged for religious reasons less numerous than some people suppose but, according to the same encyclopedia, the number of people killed in these 123 “religious” wars is equivalent to 2% of the total number of persons killed in all historical wars. That means that “religious” wars in general have had fewer victims than wars waged for other motives.

Conclusion

This post presented five atheist objections to the existence of God. I say "objections" rather than arguments, because frequently, the short one or two sentence objection is used to befuddle believers and make atheism seem "evident." It is my hope that you understand why they are wrong and are thus better prepared to defend our Holy Mother the Church whenever She is attacked. 

36 comments:

  1. The universe, with its laws, its complexity, and its beauty, is the best refutation of atheism. How can atheists explain this world, which is said to have emerged from nothing by chance, without invoking a Creator ? To me, that’s impossible. God exists, and atheism is futile.

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  2. Olbers' paradox also points to a Creator because it poses the question of the darkness of the night sky and answers it by invoking the limited age of the universe.

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    1. @anon10:30
      Yes!! I should have included that in my response! Thank you for commenting.

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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  3. Aquinas's Five Proofs remains undefeated against atheists. Their only response is the "god of the gaps" cope because they cannot refute it. It is not surprising, not a single one of them has a coherent epistemology, yet they think that they can disprove God's existence by constructing illogical "gotchas" or making emotional appeals that presuppose their understanding of good and evil being true, universal, and binding.

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      Absolutely. The so-called New Atheists are anti-theists (that God MUST not exist because they hate Him). Their rage blinds their intellect.

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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  4. To My Readers:
    A commenter sent in 6 comments that are citations to other blogs/sources about various topics. Although they contain no blasphemy and no vulgarity, it is not my policy to simply publish quotes from other websites or blogs. If the commenter has something to say about each quote he/she should resend it with their comment.

    ---Introibo

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  5. Great posting Introibo. Thank you. I too get sick of those folk who reject the existence of God. Have you read the book of Father Robinson of the SSPX on creation? Do you recommend it?

    Another question. Had you dated a Baptist woman before finding your wife? If so , were they open to conversion to the True Faith. There is so many branches of that "Church" and is it correct they really are not united.

    God bless

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    1. @anon2:55
      Thank you for the kind words, my friend! While I disagree with the SSPX's R&R stance, I personally like Fr. Robinson's book. I did date a couple of Protestant women before I met my wife. I would not marry anyone not open to conversion---so, yes, they were open. The worst are Vatican II sect women which I learned to avoid.

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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    2. May I ask what bad experiences did you have with Vatican II sect women?
      I am sure you have done much reading about the Protestant sects , why is there so many branches of the Baptist group? They don't seem to be united. One only has to look around here in the US to see dozens of groups claiming to be a Baptist Church.

      God bless

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    3. @anon6:48
      The V2 sect women are like liberal Jewish women insofar as they will tell you, "I'm not religious so I'll go to your Church," etc. until things get serious. Then attending the Novus Bogus and raising children in the sect become important and you are "outside the Church."

      As to Baptists, I don't know why they splinter more than other groups, but it happens because of private interpretation of the Bible.

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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  6. Introibo,

    This was another great article. Thank you for keeping up this wonderful blog!

    The age of the Earth and universe has been discussed on your blog several times throughout the years. You mention the BBT and your personal belief of the Earth and universe being billions of years old. I have mentioned some points in the past in favor of a young Earth/universe, and I was wondering if you could reply to these objections. I have listed some of these before, but I will list even more now. Many of these points that I bring up are points that I have noted in my own research throughout the years. I have written on them before. There are some new points that I have found online and I mention them here now as well. I am not a theologian, nor a scientist, so I do not know the accuracy of all of these claims. I would very much be interested in a “response to these objections” in favor of an old age Earth/universe. Popes Pius XI and Pius XII were fond of the work of Fr. Lemaitre. His work was very interesting and as mentioned, he was not condemned. Still, I think the evidence for a young Earth/universe should also be equally looked at and I cite many examples here (these came from a variety of sources. I only compiled a list after researching several different sources. These sources did not come from me. I just gathered a bunch of research together).

    #1 - Carbon 14 dating is often used. C14 is within all living things. C14 is released when living things die. C14 has a half-life of 5,730 years. DNA has a half-life of 521 years. It keeps getting cut in half. The founder of Carbon 14, Willard Libby, even admitted carbon dating cannot be used for anything over 50,000 years. How can we use this method of dating when the founder himself said that it couldn’t go beyond 50,000 years? A few rocks can be radiometric dated. Carbon dating is only for living things. Igneous rock (lava) can be radiometrically dated. Potassium decays into Argon in the rock. They measure the rate of decay from Potassium into Argon. You cannot assume a constant rate of decay. Mt. St. Helens erupted in 1980. In the 1990’s, creation scientists took 5 samples to be tested. Potassium Argo dated it-1) 340,000 2) 350,000 3) 900,000 4) 1.7 million 5) 2.8 million. These rocks were less than 30 years old (<30 years old). If radiometric dating has never been accurate when using a known rock, how can we trust it when using an unknown age of something?

    #2 - Evidence from Space. Stars claimed to be billions of years away, so the universe must be old. A light year is not a speed, but a distance. Has the speed of light always been 186,282 miles/second? Has light speed been slowed down? In laboratories, light speed has been slowed down.

    #3 - The Mountains. After the Flood, the mountains were raised up. If true, invertebrates at the bottom of the sea should be at the tops of mountains. At the tops and sides of mountains are clams, jellyfish, oysters, and other invertebrates. Mountains erode over time. After 14 million years, all mountains would erode. Yet, they are still here – points to a young Earth.

    #4 - The Water. Mississippi River dumps mud into The Gulf of Mexico. 4,500 years of mud has been dumped into the Mississippi River – just like the Flood. No river has dumped mud > 4,500 years. Mud in oceans would be choked with mud if billions of years old, dozens of miles thick. We don’t see that.

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    #5 - The Fossil Record. Derby hats are completely fossilized very quickly, not millions/billions of years old. Hats, cowboy boots, bags of flours, etc. fossilized in hundreds of years. Dinosaur bones are all not fossilized. In Alaska, fresh dinosaur bones were found. How do they not biodegrade in 5,000 years, let alone 65 million years ago? In 1971 in Alaska, a scientist found dinosaur bones completely non-fossilized. They were found in Montana too. It would take millions of years for the thousands of meters of material beneath us to accumulate and lithify—or so the argument goes. Is that true? A polystrate fossil is a single fossil that spans more than one geologic stratum. Many polystrate tree trunk fossils have been discovered, as well as a baleen whale, swamp plants called calamites, and catfish. Polystrate fossils prove that both the rock layers of the geologic column and the surfaces between them do not require millions of years of slow and gradual accumulation and lithification. After all, how could a tree escape its inevitable decay while sticking out of the ground for millions of years with its roots dead and lithified, while it waited to be slowly covered with sediment? Polystrate fossils provide evidence that the rock strata have formed rapidly—fast enough to preserve organic materials before their decay.

    #6 - Human population statistics. Evolutionists argue that humans (i.e., the genus homo) have been on the Earth for roughly two to three million years. Using statistics, one can arrive at an estimate for how many people would be predicted to be on the Earth at different points in history. For example, accounting for factors such as war, disease, and famine, and assuming humans have been on the planet for only one million, rather than two to three million years, we find that there should be 10 (to the 2000th power) people on the planet today. There are, however, not even 10 (to the 10th power) people on the Earth. In fact, if three-feet-tall humans with narrow shoulders were squeezed into the Universe like sardines, only 10 (to the 82nd power) people could fit into the entire Universe. It would take 10 (to the 1,918th power) (minus one) other Universes like ours to house that many humans. It might be tempting to argue that the Earth could only sustain roughly 50 billion people, resource-wise, and therefore, all humans above that number would die off. If that were the case, however, there should be evidence that the Earth’s resource capacity had been met many times in the past in the form of billions upon billions of hominid fossils. Hominid fossils, however, are acknowledged to be “hard to come by.” In fact, “meager evidence” exists to attempt to substantiate the origin of the entire genus homo. Even after over a century of searching for homo fossils, one evolutionary scientist admitted several years ago, “The fossils that decorate our family tree are so scarce that there are still more scientists than specimens. The remarkable fact is that all the physical evidence we have for human evolution can still be placed, with room to spare, inside a single coffin.” Is belief in an old Earth reasonable or irrational? Ironically, if our calculations are adjusted based on the predictions of the biblical model, roughly 4,350 years ago a Flood ensued that wiped out man from the face of the Earth. If the planet then began to be repopulated by six people (namely the sons of Noah and their wives), statistics show that there should be roughly 6.7 to 8.1 billion people on the planet today. There are about 8 billion people on Earth today. Where are all the dead bodies if the Earth was billions of years old? There would be no room for all of them. This doesn’t add up.

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    #7 - Soft Tissue/Blood Vessels in Dinosaur Fossils. The last uncontested dinosaur fossil is found in the Cretaceous period of the geologic column, below the K-Pg boundary that marks a mysterious extinction event that wiped out some 70% of the planet’s species. The dinosaur era (i.e., the Mesozoic) extends from roughly 252 million years ago to the K-Pg boundary, roughly 65-66 million years ago according to the evolutionary timescale. Obviously, no flesh could conceivably survive 100,000 years without decay, much less one million years, much less 65 million years, much less 200 million years. As of 2005, however, many dinosaur fossils have been “cracked open” and studied, only to find collagen and blood vessels with red blood cells intact, original proteins, and soft, stretchy, flexible tissue. The list has grown to include Trex, hadrosaur, mosasaur, triceratops, thescelosaurus, psittacosaurus, archaeopteryx, and seismosaur fossils. While certain sterile conditions could conceivably preserve organic remains for hundreds or thousands of years, the fossils being studied were not discovered in sterile, laboratory environments, but rather harsh environments like the mid-western U.S., with large temperature differentials, erratic weather, and climate conditions that accelerate decay. No reasonable explanation has been offered, and yet the evidence has continued to mount. The most plausible explanation is that the geologic strata that host the dinosaurs do not date to 65+ million years ago, but rather, to a few thousand years ago.

    #8 - Rapid “Slow” Processes. Petrification has been found to be able to occur in mere months to a few years under catastrophic conditions. Oil has been shown to form in hundreds to thousands of years. The rapid carving of canyons has been verified to occur under catastrophic conditions as well.

    #9 - Amount of Salt in the Sea. Ocean water is salty. Each year, hundreds of millions of tons of sodium are added to the oceans and only about 27% of it is removed by other processes, leaving an annual accumulation of 336 million tons of sodium. Starting with a zero sodium content in the sea and using the old-Earth assumption of uniformitarianism, the current concentration of sodium in the ocean would be reached in only 42 million years. According to the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, however, the ocean is 3.8 billion years old. The response to this fact, as must be the case in other examples in this list, would obviously be that accumulation and/or dissemination rates must have been different in the past. The average salt accumulation, however, would have to be over 90 times slower than present rates in order to accommodate the alleged age of the ocean. This conjecture simply does not hold up under scrutiny and, even if it did, it would merely prove the creationist contention that uniformitarianism is not a reliable assumption. Present processes are not the key to understanding the past and, therefore, no old-age dating technique can be trusted, since they all rely on uniformitarianism. Since the Flood happened, catastrophism, not uniformitarianism, is a more reasonable assumption in interpreting physical evidence. Intimately tied to catastrophism are rapid processes and, therefore, young ages.

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    #10 – Amount of Sediment on the Sea Floor. As water and wind scour the continents each year, 20 billion tons of material is estimated to be deposited in the oceans. As the tectonic plates of the Earth move, subduction occurs, with one plate slowly diving under another towards the mantle. One billion tons of material is estimated to be removed from the sea floor each year from that process, leaving 19 billion tons of sediment accumulating each year on the ocean floor. On average, the sediment thickness on the ocean floor is 1,500 feet. Based on the current rate of sediment deposition, however (i.e., assuming uniformitarianism once again), the sediment on the ocean floor would accumulate in only a small fraction of the alleged 3.8 billion year age of the ocean (i.e., 0.5% or 19 million years). The average annual sediment accumulation would have to be 197 times smaller to match an ocean age of 3.8 billion years. The amount of sediment on the sea floor simply does not support a billions-of-years-old ocean, but fits well with a young Earth when the accelerated erosion rates during and immediately after the Flood are accounted for.

    #11 – Helium in Zircon Crystals. Zircon crystals are considered to be some of the oldest minerals on Earth—thought to be billions of years old. They are very hard and resistant to deterioration, and are also able to preserve their contents well, making them safer from contamination. Within zircon crystals, a portion of the zirconium atoms is replaced by uranium while the crystals grow. As radioactive uranium-238 decays into its daughter element, lead-206, alpha particles are released that combine with nearby electrons. Helium is subsequently formed, which can then be detected in zircon crystals. While zircon crystals are able to preserve their contents well, helium is known to behave as a “slippery” material. Helium atoms are small and are in constant motion as gas particles. They are, therefore, hard to contain, and they diffuse quickly. Upon examination of zircon crystals that are thought to be 1.5 billion years old, however, scientists have discovered the presence of unusually high concentrations of helium. If the crystals were billions of years old, the helium should have been diffused from the crystals and released into the atmosphere, since high concentrations of helium can only be sustained, theoretically, for a few thousand years without significant diffusion. The presence of high concentrations of helium illustrates the fact that at some point(s) in the relatively recent past, the nuclear decay rate of uranium-238 was accelerated, producing larger amounts of helium that have not yet had time to diffuse. If radioactive decay rates were accelerated at some point in the past (e.g., during the Flood), then radioactive materials will appear deceptively old, while actually being relatively young.

    #12 – Orphan Radiohalos. As a radioactive atom of uranium decays into polonium within a solid crystalline material, alpha particles are released and “halos” form, marking the different stages of nuclear decay. Parentless radiohalos, however, are found in many granitic rocks, implying accelerated nuclear decay in the past and a young age for the Earth.

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    #13 – Faint Young Sun Paradox. As the hydrogen within the Sun fuses into helium, the Sun gradually increases in temperature. Calculations show that (at current rates) 3.5 billion years ago, the Sun would have been 25% dimmer and would have heated the Earth less, dropping Earth’s temperature some 31oF. Earth would have been below freezing! According to contemporary thinking, however, Earth, initially molten, was hotter, not colder, prior to 3.5 billion years ago, and was gradually cooling, not heating up. Not only is there no evidence that Earth was ever frozen, but if it had been frozen 3.5 billion years ago and beyond, according to evolutionists, life could not emerge 3.5-4 billion years ago since it relies on liquid water.

    #14 – Rapid Decay Rate of Earth’s Magnetic Field. Scientists have been measuring the strength of the Earth’s magnetic field with precision since 1835. The magnetic field is decaying at an exponential rate with a half-life of roughly 1,100 years. By implication, when we follow the exponential function back in history, doubling the Earth’s magnetic field intensity every 1,100 years, we reach a point 30,000 years ago when the Earth’s magnetic field strength would have been comparable to that of a neutron star, creating immense heat that would have prohibited life from existing and possibly even compromised the internal structure of the Earth. The Earth cannot be millions of years old.

    #15 – Lunar Recession Rate. The Moon is presently moving away from the Earth at a rate of approximately 4 cm per year. The recession rate is not linear. As the Moon moves further from the Earth, it recedes slower. Based on the equation that describes the Moon’s recession rate, scientists can calculate where the Moon would have been compared to the Earth at different times in history. For example, 6,000 years ago, the Moon would have been 750 feet closer to the Earth than it is today—resulting in little effect on the Earth. If, however, the Moon has the contemporary age of 4.5 billion years old, there is a significant problem, because 1.55 billion years ago the Moon would have been touching the Earth. It would be physically impossible, therefore, for the Moon to be older than 1.55 billion years old based on the known recession rate of the Moon. In response, those who wish to maintain the contemporary belief in deep time must argue that present recession rates did not hold in the past. In so doing, however, they abandon uniformitarian thinking (i.e., “the present is the key to the past”) which undergirds every deep time dating technique. They are, therefore, once again admitting that every evolutionary dating technique is suspect and does not prove an old Earth.

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    #16 – Spiral Galaxies. Earth is located in the Milky Way Galaxy—a spiral galaxy. According to the Big Bang model, galaxies began forming within a billion years after the Big Bang, making many of them over 12 billion years old. Of all of the galaxies that scientists have observed, some 77 percent of them are spiral galaxies. The oldest spiral galaxy is thought to be roughly 11 billion years old. If you have ever sprinkled cinnamon on a hot, foamy drink and then stirred the drink with a straw or stick, you will notice the formation of the characteristic spiral galaxy shape. You may also notice that the portion of the spiral that is closer to the center rotates faster than the portion of the spiral that is close to the edge of the cup. That “differential rotation” causes the arms of the spiral to begin blurring closer to the center of the spiral over time. After a few rotations, the center of the spiral is no longer recognizable. Similarly, spiral galaxies are spinning slowly. If spiral galaxies are as old as is claimed by secular cosmologists, after a few hundred million years the arms of the spirals should no longer be recognizable—and yet many of them are. Space.com admits: “The exact mechanism for the formation of the spiral arms continues to puzzle scientists. If they were permanent features of the galaxy, they would soon wind up tightly and disappear in less than a billion years.” Apparently, the observational evidence does not harmonize with the deep time proposition of the Big Bang model.

    For #’s 6-16 that I referenced, they came largely from the following cite: https://apologeticspress.org/21-reasons-to-believe-the-earth-is-young-5641/

    ***The numbers before that were notes that I took many years ago from a lecture on the belief in a young Earth/universe. There was a little overlap between my notes and the notes on this site. I also consulted several other articles online that I found.***

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    There are more examples that I found online that could be cited but this should be more than sufficient in defense of a young Earth/universe.

    Introibo, can you reply to these objections and counter each one of them in favor of an old age Earth/universe? I think that we should look very closely at both sides fairly and unbiasedly. I would be very interested at seeing a list of the opposite points of what I have presented here point by point. By this I mean, a list of examples that argues very favorably in favor of an old age Earth/universe.

    One problem that we see when looking at church history is we do not see any mention until about the last 2 centuries of theologians proposing billions of years. The early church fathers were numerous in their writings of saying the world was between 5,000-10,000 years old. Shouldn’t we have some that argued for billions of years in the early centuries? This is completely absent for about 1,800 years when we examine Scripture, the early church fathers, the medieval theologians, popes, etc. The preponderance of their writings suggests that the Earth and universe are relatively young. When we get to the 19th and 20th centuries, it seems like “we turned the corner” so to speak and long ages became a very popular belief. But why so long? Fr. Lemaitre was supported by Pope Pius XI and Pope Pius XII and that is nice and his BBT gained a lot of steam, but where was this thinking in early centuries? Shouldn’t we have had a spattering of theologians arguing against their fellow theologians who were all arguing in favor of a young Earth and universe? Other spiritual writings (though not theological works) such as “The Mystical City of God” also puts the Earth/universe at just a few thousand years old. There is a huge disparity here between the first 1,800 years of Christendom and the last 2 centuries and I find this very odd.

    The same holds true for Geocentrism. Scripture, the early church fathers, the medieval theologians, popes, etc. also held to Geocentrism as the correct belief, but shouldn’t there have been a mix of theologians arguing for Geocentrism and a mix of them arguing for Heliocentrism? If we had Augustine, Jerome, and Chrysostom on one side and Basil the Great, Athanasius, and Gregory of Nyssa on the other side, well then this would make more sense that this could easily go either way. When we look at long ages and the Geocentrism/Heliocentrism topics, they are very one sided for most centuries. The long ages really didn’t take hold until the 1800’s and Heliocentrism didn’t start to creep in until after Copernicus. It’s not like this with the Immaculate Conception. Some theologians were on one side of this issue and some theologians were on the other side of this issue until finally Pope Pius IX settled the matter once and for all.

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    It’s interesting with the short and long age issue that we don’t see more talk of long ages as a real possibility from the popes prior to St. Pius X with the PBC and Pius XI and Pius XII supporting the work of Fr. Lemaitre. And the fact that Popes Pius X, Pius XI, and Pius XII allowed for short or long ages as both being possible means that either one is acceptable to hold to. With long ages, we would have to stretch the biblical narrative out much wider between Adam and Abraham, as Abraham lived roughly 2,000 years before Christ, Moses lived approximately 1,400 years before Christ, and David lived about 1,000 years before Christ.

    We could also add the role of women as another topic that was very one sided until Pope Pius XII wrote those 2 allocutions. Were there popes in previous centuries that also supported this in their writings? It doesn’t appear so. Certainly, the world had changed by the time Pius XII was writing in the 1940’s/1950’s so maybe this isn’t quite an “apples to apples” comparison, but still, we have yet another example of a topic that was very one-sided for most of Christendom.

    This is why I love your blog! You talk about all of these topics in great detail! Steve Speray did too (until he took his site down). I don’t see this among traditional clergy and trying to find the answers to topics like this is very difficult. Again, just like we find silence in the early centuries on the issues that I mentioned, so too do we find silence from traditional clergy on these topics altogether. That is really unfortunate!

    Thank you for keeping up this blog because there are an array of theological topics that you discuss that literally one is hard pressed to find anywhere else on the internet!

    God bless you!

    -TradWarrior

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    1. TradWarrior,
      The website is run by Protestants who think the Bible is a science textbook. I have some answers which I had from various sources both online and in print. I take no credit, although I know the science behind it. I will answer each objection.

      First,
      Carbon-14 is not used for millions of years, different methods are used for different ages, and the Mount St. Helens rock test failed because it measured leftover ancient argon, not new decay. Scientists agree with Willard Libby that carbon-14 cannot date objects older than about 50,000 to 60,000 years.

      Carbon-14 is never used to date dinosaur bones or old rocks.

      Other radiometric methods, like uranium-lead or potassium-argon, are used for millions or billions of years. The 1980 Mt. St. Helens dacite lava dome contained older rock fragments (xenoliths) from deep underground when it erupted.

      The test measured argon gas that was already trapped inside those old mineral crystals before 1980. It did not measure argon made by new potassium decay after 1980. Clean, single-mineral crystals tested properly from modern eruptions yield correct zero or very young ages.

      Second,
      The speed of light was only slowed down in a lab because it had to pass through something (like water). In a vacuum it is always constant. Stars are in space (a vacuum).

      Third,
      Marine fossils on mountains are the result of plate tectonics, where ancient sea floors are slowly pushed upward over millions of years. Furthermore, mountains do not just erode; Earth continuously builds new ones through ongoing geological activity, meaning mountains can persist dynamically over billions of years despite continuous erosion.

      The premise that all mountains would completely erode away in 14 million years ignores active tectonism and volcanism. Earth is a dynamic planet where new mountain ranges are actively built while old ones wear down.

      Fourth, The oceans are not choked with mud because plate tectonics constantly recycles Earth's crust. Old ocean floors sink into the mantle at subduction zones and melt, while new land rises. Erosion rates also change over time, and much sediment is trapped in deep basins rather than piling up

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    2. Fifth, Rapid fossilization of human artifacts like derby hats in mineral-rich mines is real, but it does not mean dinosaur fossils are young. Scientists explain that fossilization speed depends entirely on local groundwater chemistry and burial sealing—not time. Un-Fossilized or partially preserved dinosaur bones survive millions of years due to stable, cold, and oxygen-free underground environments. Furthermore, rare survivals of original organic molecules or collagen occur when bones are sealed tightly in fine-grained mudstones that lock out bacteria and groundwater.



      Sixth, human population growth has not been constant or exponential over millions of years. Instead, early human populations remained extremely small, flat, and close to extinction for 99% of human history due to severe resource limits and bottlenecks. The objection assumes a steady, positive growth rate over millennia.

      Seventh, original soft tissues in dinosaur fossils survived tens of millions of years through special preservation processes like iron-catalyzed mineralization, cross-linking, and microenvironment protection within thick, dense bones. While untreated flesh decays quickly, fossilized bone matrices shield organic molecules from microbes and water.



      Eighth, catastrophic events can rapidly trigger certain steps of a process, they do not duplicate the complete, multi-layered evidence required for ancient geological formations. Rapid changes do not erase the vast body of data proving the Earth is billions of years old.



      Ninth, sodium inputs and outputs are in a near steady-state balance. The assumption of a zero-sodium starting ocean and constant accumulation ignores major loss mechanisms. Modern oceanography shows that sodium is effectively removed through sea-floor weathering, hydrothermal vent reactions, and subduction processes.

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    3. Tenth, the objection uses a false uniform rate, ignores major crustal recycling at subduction zones, and fails to account for the history of continental growth and crustal evolution. The current high rate of erosion is a modern peak caused by human land use and post-ice-age uplift, not a constant long-term average.

      Eleventh, showing that the young-earth model miscalculated helium diffusion rates. They point out that helium diffusion is heavily dependent on temperature and radiation damage within the crystal lattice. When corrected for actual borehole conditions and multi-path diffusion models, the data match a multi-billion-year timeline.



      Twelfth, Scientists explain "orphan" polonium radiohalos as the result of continuous replenishment by nearby uranium decay and fluid transport through hot, crystallizing magma, not accelerated decay or primordial rock. Polonium is continuously supplied by parent uranium in accessory minerals like zircon, while hydrothermal fluids move the isotopes short distances before halos form

      Thirteenth, Earth's early atmosphere had much higher levels of greenhouse gases like carbon dioxide and methane, which trapped enough heat to keep the planet warm and maintain liquid water despite a dimmer sun.

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    4. Fourteenth, There is a false assumption; The "half-life" argument assumes the field decays like a radioactive atom. Compound this with bad history: Extrapolating the current 190-year decline backward indefinitely is incorrect. Therefore, you get a false Conclusion. It is equivalent to looking at a person losing weight during a flu and concluding they weighed 1,000 pounds last year.



      Fifteenth, the objection claims that adjusting the recession rate "abandons uniformitarian thinking." This is a misunderstanding of how modern science defines the concept. Methodological Uniformitarianism states that the laws of physics (like gravity, fluid dynamics, and thermodynamics) are constant over time.

      It does not state that the local environment or rates of physical processes remain constant. For example, assuming the recession rate has always been 3.8 cm/year ignores the changing positions of the continents—violating the very laws of physics and plate tectonics we observe today. the Moon's current recession rate is anomalously fast due to unique modern ocean configurations, and geological evidence directly proves the Moon was orbiting a billions-of-years-old Earth.

      Sixteenth, spiral arms are not permanent, rigid physical structures that wind up and get destroyed. Instead, spiral arms are density waves—like moving traffic jams—where stars crowd together temporarily as they pass through, meaning the arms continuously regenerate and persist over billions of years.

      Finally, as to the age of the Earth and the role of women, why do we not hear about this from the early Church? I respond that it's for the same reason we don't find discussions about whether or not telephonic confessions can be valid in danger of death---the circumstances did not exist and could not even be comprehended.

      Much changed in regard to science and the world. This is not Modernist development of doctrine, but the Catholic Church applying correct principles to current situations.

      I hope this helps!

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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    5. Introibo,

      Thank you so much! Your responses were excellent! They always are! I am saving everything that you wrote so that I can reference all of this in the future.

      Great stuff! Thanks again!

      -TradWarrior

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  14. Introibo
    I repeat the words of TradWarrior keep this blog going even if you get to the point of only posting every two to three weeks. Your thoughts and info are much needed. Prayers for you always
    God bless

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      Thank you, my friend! Comments like yours keep me writing!

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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  15. Interesting it is, that the most recent Novus Ordo Watch wire blog post (of Aug. 5, titled "Mysticism or Mystification?") is about Charles Coulombe. CC was the subject of Introibo's Dec. 1, 2025 (Contending # 46) blog post. One would think that Introibo's blog contribution might have or should have, been cited, somewhere in the endnotes, of that Aug. 5 blog post, but it isn't/wasn't.

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      Mario Derksen does a lot of researching on his own. He probably didn't need to use the info from my post. Thank you for acknowledging my expose of Coulombe!

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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  16. Your blog, your rules
    3. augusta 2026 o 19:14 It's a good thing you didn't post the attachments.

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    1. @anon12:39
      Yes indeed!! I'm afraid to post stuff from R&R websites! LOL!

      ---Introibo

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    2. Introibo
      I did not know about the background of Coulombe.Scary.So that is a clear No from you not to read his books. What about his friend Peter Kwasniewski too. He is mixed up too and only with a sound Traditional Catholic mindset would one see his major errors.

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  17. Introibo
    Do you have a copy of the Roman Index of forbidden books printed back in 1863? A sedevacantist publisher should publish those type of old books for us faithful to have.God bless

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  18. To add to one of the objections:

    "Atheist Objection: “A perfect God could not have created an imperfect world. Since the world is obviously imperfect, God does not exist.”

    I would add response number three: "Why what measure does he define 'perfect', being as that he is not perfect either so as to be able to make such an estimation ?"

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  19. This is an indirect reply to the mammoth comments between TradWarrior and Introibo regarding the dates and ages of the universe and how it is dated. It is separate because it's not exactly the same thing:


    A possible solution to the Genesis/origin of the universe question, and how it is done. Given that Sacred Scripture is not, and was never meant to be, a scientific manual of the workings of the universe, we can only conclude that the presentation of Genesis *means* something. Now what it means is that there is a *hierarchical* order to Creation: The order listed in Genesis is simply from lower to higher forms.

    As I've said elsewhere, "hierarchy" is the principle of existence and the 'engine of creation' (From God, then all else); whereas 'equality' is the root, stock and branch of what was called "Russia's error's" (communism, now also wokeism and other nonsense). This is why I call it "the false god, equality" ( #thefalsegoequality ). It is the undoing of all Creation since, when pushed to its absolute conclusion, absolute equality is zero, or non-existence.

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  20. Thank you very much, Introibo!

    I remember very distinctly that I grew up with the notion that the "big bang" was a way to mock God as the Creator of the Universe. I also have a vague recollection of the false idea of the "eternal Universe" floating around at that time too. Public schooling, the false teachings of the Novus Ordo (compulsory religious education done by Novus Ordo catechists and fake 'priests'). It took years to get rid of those false notions and your blog posts hepled the most!

    God Bless You,
    Joanna

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    1. Joanna,
      So glad I helped you, my friend!

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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