To My Readers: This week's guest post from Lee is about the most intriguing National Basilica of the Shrine of Our Lady Help of Christians in Hubertus, Wisconsin. Please feel free to comment as usual. If you have a specific comment or question for me, I will respond as always, but it may take me a bit longer to do so this week.
God bless you all, my dear readers---Introibo
Holy Hill
By Lee
"I will go unto the altar of God, the God who brings joy to my youth. Judge me, O God, and distinguish my cause from the nation that is not holy; deliver me from the unjust and deceitful man. For Thou art, God, my strength; why hast Thou cast me off? And why do I go sorrowful whilst the enemy afflicteth me? Send forth Thy light and Thy truth: they have conducted me and brought me unto Thy holy hill, and into Thy tabernacles. And I will go in to the altar of God: to God Who giveth joy to my youth."
Those who attend the Tridentine Mass are familiar with these words but notice how it is these words which start the beginning of the sacred liturgy at the foot of the altar. In Sacred Scripture, mountains and hills are mentioned an estimate of more than 500 times and that's not by accident. There is a symbolic, yet simple reason for this. Just as we walk into a beautiful cathedral and we look up at the domes and murals on the wall elevating not only the senses, but our minds towards God in heaven, so too are mountains and hills places where we can lift up ourselves towards God in heaven. It's quite obvious that we were not created for this world alone.
Before he chose his Apostles we read where our Lord Jesus Christ first went up to the mountain to pray in Luke 6:12-16. On another occasion, we see him putting his Apostles on a boat to go before him before dismissing the people and afterwards going up to a mountain to pray alone. A wind started causing waves and tossing the boat in the sea. The Apostles see an apparition only to find out that its Jesus. Peter testing the spirit asks if it his Lord to have him come out to him on the water, which he does before staring to sink half way out as Jesus saves him in Matt 14: 22-32. When Jesus takes with him Sts. Peter, James, and John to Mount Tabor he shows them his glory through his transfiguration Matt 17:1-8.
Most importantly our redemption came through the death of the Savior of the world on a hill known as Golgotha as recorded in the Gospels. There are many more instances of great things taking place on high mountains or hills in Scripture. It can fill our mind with plenty of holy thoughts to consider, however, they don't end with the Scriptures. There are some other places God wills his presence to be made known. One such underrated location is called "Holy Hill" or the National Basilica of the Shrine of Our Lady Help of Christians found in Hubertus, Wisconsin just outside Milwaukee.
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The First Hermit of Holy Hill
Francois Soubrio, a native of France, was known as the hermit of Holy Hill. A local farmer discovered his presence sometime between 1862 and 1864. After a time of mutual suspicion between Soubrio and the area farmers, a friendship developed as the result of growing openness between them. The farmers then began to assist Soubrio by giving him food and other necessities. Eventually they banded together to build a small cabin for him.
There are two accounts about Soubrio's mysterious presence at Holy Hill. In the older account (1889), a narrative written about Holy Hill by W. A. Armstrong, the hermit is said to have come in penance for the murder of someone he loved. Armstrong's narrative also says that the hermit was miraculously healed of a partial paralysis after spending the night in prayer on the hill's summit. In J. M. LeCount's history of Holy Hill he is described as a religious eccentric. Although the accounts differ in their opinion of Soubrio's personality, both accounts agree that he was a man of great inner pain who sought comfort in God.
Before coming to Holy Hill, Soubrio traveled extensively. His travels eventually brought him to Quebec, Canada, where he worked as an assistant to a retired professor. While working in the professor's library, Soubrio found an old French diary and a parchment map (dated 1676). The map showed the Wisconsin - Lake Michigan area and the route used to reach a very high cone-shaped hill in southeastern Wisconsin. Soubrio's attention was drawn to the entry in which the author described his journey to the hill's summit where he erected a stone altar, raised a cross (margin notes on the map indicated a cross) and dedicated the place in the name of Mary as holy ground forever. Studying these documents created a deep longing within Soubrio to come to the holy site. Many assumed the documents belonged to Fr. Jacques Marquette.
The Fr. Marquette Legend
Some Jesuit missionaries may have erected crosses on prominent elevations. This possibility, along with the date and description on the hermit's map coincides with the French expeditions in this area from 1673 to 1679.
Indian folklore supports the traditional belief of a Jesuit missionary in this area. The Potawatomis and their chief, Kewaskum, camped near Pike Lake and often spoke of the black robe chief who wore a crucifix and rosary at his belt.
The Indians reported that the black robe prayed at the big hill where he planted a cross. Chief Monches of the Menomonee Indians confirmed the Potawatomi story. Chief Monches loved to illustrate the story in the sand or snow while telling how the black robe chief came from Lake Michigan in search of the Rock River. A combination of lndian folklore and reports of the hermit's map and French diary gave birth to the legend of Fr. Marquette's presence at Holy Hill in 1673. This legend has been included in all past histories of the hill.
Fr. Marquette could not have visited Holy Hill in 1673. He and Joliet were in the midst of their Mississippi explorations during that year. Marquette and Joliet had contemporary witnesses to their explorations and kept precise records of distances traveled, as well as a daily journal of events. Although Fr. Marquette was on the Milwaukee shores of Lake Michigan and met with a tribe of friendly Indians between November 23 and 27, 1674, it is very unlikely that he would have come this far inland without keeping an accurate record of the journey and the distanced traveled. Fr. Marquette became ill in the summer of 1674 and died somewhere in the wilderness along Lake Michigan's eastern shore on May 18, 1675.
Even though Fr. Marquette could not have visited Holy Hill in 1673, his journeys through the wilderness and his devotion to Mary give him a unique spiritual bond with pilgrims who come to Holy Hill. He placed his travels under Mary's protection and asked his companions to take her for their patron daily. This was their dedication prayer: "We, with full accord, commenced a new devotion to the Holy Virgin Immaculate which we practiced every day." This was the opening line from his prayer for protection: "Above all, I put our voyage under the protection of the Blessed Virgin Immaculate..." If Fr. Marquette were here today, he would be pleased with the meaning of the Greek wrought-iron letters set into the ceiling lamps of the upper church. Together these letters spell out the word "hodegetria". The translation for hod is -"way". The translation for egetria is feminine "leader" or "guide". In reference to Mary this means she is our guide of the Way and leader for all pilgrims who search for "...the way, the truth and the life" (Jn. 14:6) - the Lord Jesus Christ.
Origins of the Name
The local Indians and most early settlers called Holy Hill the big hill. After hearing the story of the black robe chief from the Indians, some of the Irish settlers dedicated the hill to the Blessed Virgin Mary as a special place of prayer. These Irish were the first to call this place Holy Hill. From 1858 until 1891, most area Catholics referred to the site as St. Mary's Hill or Maria Hilfberg. Because Francois Soubrio resided there within this same time period, many called it hermit's hill. The name Holy Hill was first used formally by Fr. George Strickner in the course of his sermon when dedicating a log chapel as the first Shrine of Mary - Help of Christians on May 24, 1863.
The summer of 1873 brought the United States Army Corps of Engineers to the hill. The engineers erected an observatory on its summit in order to map out Lake Michigan's coastline. In 1881 the Treasury Department surveyed the area to establish baselines between points on the Mississippi River, Lake Michigan and Lake Superior. Again in 1891, the engineers returned to make a topographical survey for the Department of the Interior. The presence of these United States survey teams and the work they accomplished, resulted in the hill being referred to as Government Hill.
Early History
While Fr. J. B. Hasselbauer was pastor of St. Augustine's parish, Roman Goetz hewed a white oak cross from a tree that grew at the foot of the hill. (Mr. Goetz was a parishioner who served as the hill's custodian and did much to advance its popularity.) The cross, now on display in the Marian Halway, is five by seven inches thick and originally stood fifteen feet above the ground. Engraved on the cross in German are the words, Ich Bin das Leben wer an mich glaubt wird selig - l am the life, he who believes in Me shall be saved. Roman Goetz, his son-in-law Mathias Werner and several friends carried the cross to the top of the hill and placed it into position.
Once there, a hardwood box with a lock was fastened to the cross for donations. Fr. Hasselbauer led a procession from St. Augustine's parish to the top of the hill for the solemn blessing of the cross in June 1858.
In 1861 Fr. George Strickner relieved Fr. Hasselbauer as pastor of the Richfield parishes. At this time, the priests cared for the needs of Holy Hill from their residence in Richfield.^ Under Fr. Strickner's direction, the industrious German members of St. Augustine's congregation, especially those living near Holy Hill, made plans to build a log chapel on top the hill. Work on the chapel began in the summer of 1862. Timbers for the chapel were cut from trees at the bottom of the hill. Once cut, the trees were hewn smooth on two sides. The finished timbers were hauled about halfway up the hill to a level spot by a team of horses. From there, resting on levers, they were carried up the remaining distance by hand. With the passage of time, the logs of this chapel were completely disfigured by names and dates carved into them.
The chapel was sixteen feet square and stood on a stone foundation facing west. A crucifix was mounted on the peak of the roof above the entrance. It had four windows, two facing north and two south. It stood about ten feet high from ground to eaves and eight feet from ceiling to floor. The inside walls and ceiling were plastered and painted. The walls were adorned with pictures and charts of Christian religious history. There were a number of crutches and other tokens of illness cured through prayer placed in the southwest corner of the chapel. Benches sat along each wall and in front of the altar. A brass container for holy water and an offering box completed the chapel interior. The workers finished on Good Friday 1863.
At the dedication ceremony on May 24, 1863 Fr. George Strickner stood on the front step of this simple log chapel and preached the first sermon from the Shrine of Mary - Help of Christians to about 1500 persons. In this sermon, Fr. Strickner used the name Holy Hill formally for the first time.
Holy Hill was in the care of local priests for thirty years. One who contributed many improvements during his eight years of service was Fr. Ferdinand Raess. (Fr. Raess was instrumental in correcting the original deed for Holy Hill.) He was the first to live at St. Hubert's in Hubertus when he became pastor on April 9, 1875. Under his direction, the road from below the hill to its top was graded in order to allow teams of horses to ascend with comparative ease. He installed the first stations by the side of this path. These were simple wooden crosses with pictures of Christ's passion attached at the center. This set of stations was built by George Klippel of Richfield.
In winter of 1879, Fr. Raess summited a proposal to Archbishop Henni for a new shrine at Holy Hill. He requested the service of H. C. Koch, a Milwaukee Architect. For $100, Mr. Koch provided plans, specifications and cost estimates for the second shrine. John Fellenz of Milwaukee was the contractor.
The specifications called for 200,000 bricks. This presented two major transportation problems. The first problem was getting bricks to the hill and the second was getting them up the hill. John Rover, a brick maker from Sheboygan, solved the first problem. Mr. Rover found suitable clay for bricks sixty rods north of the northeast corner of the hill. The bricks made with this clay proved excellent in quality.
Getting materials up the hill was extremely difficult. Ordinary horse teams could haul only 200 bricks at one time. This would have meant a total of 1000 trips. Fortunately, enough fieldstone was found after leveling the hill to build the foundation of the church. This reduced the number of trips needed.
Work began in spring of 1879. It was necessary to excavate the hill about fifteen or twenty feet before a spot was leveled to a size adequate for the foundation. The peculiar formation of the hill would not permit the church to stand on a true compass line. Consequently, it fronted nearly south with sides extending twenty-three degrees east from a line running due north and south.
The church was built in accordance with the original plans of architect Koch for the cost of $5000. When finished, the church was seventy-six feet long including altar extension, forty-six feet wide with an eighteen square foot annex at the northeast corner for the sacristy. The walls were twenty feet high to the eaves and were solid brick anchored with iron rods to the heavy stone foundation. The roof was steep and above it rose a steeple with gilt cross on top. The chapel elevation was about sixty-eight feet.
In the fall of 1879, Fr. Raess requested John Fellenz to begin con- struction of a new parsonage in the ravine across from the present ninth station. Fr. Raess lived there from its completion in October 1880 until September 1883. This residence, which later became the first guest house, was destroyed by fire on a Sunday morning in October, 1933.
Many pilgrims staying at the guest house came to Holy Hill via Hartford or Richfield. During this era, it was easiest for pilgrims to reach Holy Hill by taking the train to either town and traveling the remaining distance by horse-drawn carriage. In 1903, Richfield offered the services of Benny Dickel, proprietor of the Dickel Hotel and Livery. Mr. Dickel became a livery boy at age twelve and remained active until age 85. The two-fold purpose of the Dickel's hotel was (1) to bring visitors up to Holy Hill, and (2) for transporting salesman to the neighboring communities. Dickel's had various rigs, some three and four seaters, and a buggy bus that held twelve to fourteen passengers. The approximately two and one-half hour trip cost fifty cents.
The pilgrim route via Hartford was popular between 1883 and 1893 while Fr. Nicholas M. Zimmer was pastor of St. Kilian's in Hartford. He coordinated and widely advertised the Hartford pilgrimages to Holy Hill. Fr. Zimmer became pastor of St. Kilian's in September of 1883 and simultaneously took on responsibility for Holy Hill."
Among his additions to the second shrine were a 1200 pound bell purchased in 1885 from McShane & Co. of Baltimore for which a separate bell tower was erected (the largest of the three bells used today); three Gothic altars dedicated on August 15, 1887 (the statue of Our Lady of Holy Hill was placed above the main altar); the second set of stations (made from brick) erected in 1889; the purchase of land in 1890 belonging to Mathias Werner for the road leading from present State Highway 167 to the first station and the painting of frescos by Leibig and Gaerdner of Milwaukee in 1891. Fr. Zimmer was in charge until his successor, Fr. John Bertram, arrrived in 1893. Fr. Bertram's directorship was responsible for the addition of the first Lourdes grotto, a new pipe organ and the completion of many needed repairs.
About this time it was felt by officials of the Milwaukee Archdiocese that because of its increasing popularity, Holy Hill should be placed in the care of a religious order. Archbishop Sebastian G. Messmer first offered the Hill to the Order of Friars Minor, Capuchin but instead placed it in the care of the Discalced Carmelite Friars. As an order dedicated to Mary, the Discalced Carmelites are especially suited for the care of the Shrine of Mary - Holy Hill.
The Brothers of St. Mary of Mt. Carmel
The Carmelites originated on the rugged terrain of Mt. Carmel (near present-day Haifa, then called Acre) when a group of lay penitents came from Europe to visit the homeland of Jesus. The penitents intended to pattern their life after the Prophet Elijah. These men took residence in the Caves of Mt. Carmel 600 feet above the Mediterranian Sea near the spring of Elijah, in order to "...meditate on the law of the Lord night and day" (Jos. 1:8), for in this was their joy (Ps. 1:2). They were to keep watch and to pray at all times (Lk. 21:36; Mk. 14:38; I Pt. 4:7) unless occupied with manual labor.
The hermits of Carmel petitioned Albert, Patriarch of Jerusalem, for a formal rule sometime between 1206-1214. The "Formula of Life" he gave them amplified the discipline of prayer and work already lived by the hermits. What follows is a much abridged version of St. Albert's rule as approved by Pope Honorius III on January 30, 1226.
(1) A superior was to be chosen from among them to whom they must promise obedience. (2) They must live in separate cells (caves or rooms) with the superior's cell near the entrance to the property in order for him to be the first to greet visitors. (3) In addition to contemplative prayer, those who could were to read the Psalms (this later became the liturgy of the hours) at certain times of the day in accordance with church custom. If they were unable to read, reciting a given number of Our Fathers was a substitute. (4) The brothers were to share everything in common. They were allowed to receive personal items from the superior and also to keep a certain amount of livestock. (5) An oratory (chapel) was to be built in the center of their community for daily Mass. (6) Sunday was set aside for community meetings. (7) With the exception of Sunday, a daily fast was required from the feast of the Exaltation to the Holy Cross to Easter Sunday. Abstinence (from meat) was perpetual except for those in poor health. (8) Silence was to be kept from after evening prayer until morning prayer. (The strict observance of Grand Silence is no longer practiced)
The little oratory (mentioned in no. 5 above) was dedicated to the Blessed Virgin Mary. Because of this, the men became known as the Brothers of St. Mary of Mt. Carmel. Their official title today is The Brothers of Our Lady of Mt. Carmel.
During the sixth crusade (1228-1229), conditions became life-threatening for Christians living in the Holy Land. This forced the hermits of Carmel to begin a westward migration around 1238. Some of these early Carmelites returned to England in 1242. The Carmelites continued their eremitical life-style in Europe until 1247 when the decision to petition the Pope for changes in their rule was made at a chapter meeting in Aylesford, England. The rule of St. Albert was mitigated on September 4, 1247 and was given canonical status by Pope Innocent IV. The Carmelites were addressed as an order for the first time on October 1, 1247.
The mitigation allowed the hermits of Carmel to become a mendicant order. As mendicants, their income would depend upon charitable donations. Owning nothing, they would keep themselves free to change locations as requested by their superiors. The men would now live in friaries with separate cells in order to keep their eremitical tradition (a friar's home is his cell). Formerly, they were only allowed to reside in secluded areas, but upon receiving permission to preach in public, they also recieved permission to live in or near cities, their friaries to be owned in common (Holy Hill is this type of residence). For practical reasons, the severity of their fast and abstinence was reduced. These adjustments were necessary for them to survive in the changing world.
The changes in the order that resulted from the mitigation of the original rule caused problems among the members. Many did not want to leave their eremitical life-style to become mendicant. Devoted to the Blessed Virgin Mary, some feared that a change would in some way show unfaithfulness to her. It was during this period of disagreement that the legendary Scapular Vision occurred. According to legend, the Blessed Virgin, clothed in the habit of the Carmelite Friars, appeared to St. Simon Stock in 1251. In the vision, the Carmelites received a garment called a scapular from Mary with a promise of her protection to all who would wear it regardless of their change in life-style.
The vision brought about a bond of unity among them and the scapular became part of their official habit. Today, this scapular is formally called the Brown Scapular of Our Lady of Mt. Carmel. As knights in times long past carried the colors of their lady into mortal combat, so the Discalced Carmelite Friars carried the colors of Our Lady of Mt. Carmel into spiritual battle." Like Mary, they stand ready to present her Son, the Lord Jesus Christ, to all who will accept Him.
The Discalced Carmelite Friars of Holy Hill
The Discalced Carmelite Friars of Holy Hill belong to the reform order of Carmelites begun by St. Teresa of Jesus (1515 - 1582) and St. John of the Cross (1542 - 1591). Teresa and John worked to establish the reform of the Carmelite order in Spain during the later part of the sixteenth century. This reform resulted in the Discalced Carmelites becoming a separate branch of the Carmelite order. Teresa's goal in the reform was for members of the order to return to the original rule of St. Albert as mitigated by Pope Innocent IV. The ancient Order of Carmelites is designated by the letters "0. Carm." and the Order of Discalced Carmelites by "O.C.D."
The images of Teresa and John are portrayed in mosaics above the two side altars in the upper church. Teresa is represented with the child Jesus in the mosaic above the left side altar. The illustration represents an experience Teresa had of being interrupted by a little boy while at prayer in the courtyard of her cloister. The child asked, "Who are you?" She answered, "I am Teresa of Jesus, and who are you?" The child replied, "I am Jesus of Teresa" and disappeared. St. Teresa of Jesus is also referred to as Teresa of Avila (she was born in Avila, Spain) or the Great St. Teresa. Canonized in 1614 (her feast day is October 15), she is the first woman to be declared a doctor of the church. This honor was awarded to her on September 27, 1970.
St. John of the Cross was canonized in 1726; his feast day is December 14. The honor of doctor of the church was given to him in 1926. John is represented in the mosaic above the right side altar. The illustration is from an occasion when John heard the Lord speak to him while looking at a painting of Christ carrying the cross. The Lord asked John what he could do for him and John replied, "All I ask is to suffer and be despised for you." This painting is hanging in the Historical Museum of Segovia Spain.
The Discalced Carmelites came to Holy Hill from Bavaria at the invitation of Archbishop Messmer on June 26, 1906. These first Carmelites were Fathers Eliseus Mackina and Irenaeus Berndi and Brothers Adam Modimayer and Alphonse Merl. The men were officially introduced to the local community by Fr. Bertram on the feast of the Visitation, July 2, 1906. Three more friars, Brothers Andrew and Martin and Fr. Otto, joined the Holy Hill community in September of that year.
The men braved their first Wisconsin winter in a farm house known as the old Whelan home. The conversion from house to friary was complete by December 8, 1907. Hardships were many. The men wanted to leave often, but Br. Adam insisted upon staying. He was convinced that God wanted the Carmelites to remain at Holy Hill. Br. Adam died on October 7, 1916 and was originally buried behind the second shrine. During excavation for the third shirne, his body was moved to the approximate location of his marker, which is near the tenth station just below the current friary parking lot. His actual grave site was covered over during construction of the present friary.
Fr. Kilian Gutmann, then superior of the Discalced Carmelite residence in Fond du Lac, replaced Fr. Eliseus as superior of Holy Hill in October 1906. Fr. Kilian remained as Holy Hill's superior until October 1914. His administration was responsible for digging a 230 foot well near the top of Holy Hill to provide water for the pilgrims. His greatest privilege was to celebrate the Hill's Golden Jubliee (1863 - 1913). Fr. Kilian was succeeded by Fr. Corbinian Penzkofer in April 1914. Fr. Corbinian's office commissioned sculptor Joseph Aszklar of Milwaukee to create the third (present) set of outdoor stations. These are life-size statues of Bedford Stone set in fieldstone grottos. Work on them began about 1918 and was completed in 1928. Fr. Corbinian also supervised construction of the building that is known as the Old Monastery Inn and Retreat Center.
Construction for this monastery (friary) began in 1919; the dedication took place in 1920. It was a novitiate from 1921 until 1943. The position of novice master for the first nine years of the novitiate was held by Fr. Gottfried Hirschberg. From 1934 until 1953 it was a minor seminary. Fr. Patrick Shanley was the first rector. By 1955 remodeling of this building into a retreat center was complete. What was once the oratory and choir (second level) became a cafeteria in the late 1940's. The friars cells on the third and fourth levels became guest rooms. The assembly room and parlor became conference room and lounge. In the late 1970's that conference room was made into a chapel (fourth level) and that lounge into a conference room (third level). A new lounge replaced what was formerly the cafeteria supervisor's quarters (third level). For the convenience of private retreatants, a rustic home style guest kitchen was installed on the first level in 1982.
Third Shrine and New Friary
When Fr. Corbinian's term ended, Fr. Cyril became superior of Holy Hill (about 1921). One of Fr. Cyril's accomplishments was the authorship of an early history of Holy Hill published in 1923. Two years later, Fr. Cyril was entrusted with the construction of the third shrine church of Our Lady - Help of Christians. The architect was Mr. Herman Gaul of Chicago and the contractors were H. Schmitt & Son.
The last services in the second shrine - a tearful moment for many - were held on September 8, 1925, the feast of the Nativity of Our Lady. It was necessary to raze this church, destroy Fr. Bertram's Lourdes Grotto and level the hill another twenty feet to provide a suitable foundation for the new church. Materials for construction were routed from Milwaukee, via North Lake and Richfield and then to the hill. Once at the hill they were transported to the top by a skip hoist, which is a system of cables and track. During the construction period, a temporary chapel (the Little Flower Mission Chapel) was used on the grounds. The chapel was later given to Camp Villa Jerome at Friess Lake. This camp is now Glacier Hills County Park, Washington County Park System, and the chapel is still used on occasion, but not always for religious purposes.
On August 22, 1926 the cornerstone of the present and third shrine to be erected on this site was placed by Archbishop Sepastian G. Messmer. Written in Latin, the inscription translates, Because of the increased numbers of those honoring the helper, the Blessed Virgin Mary, lam already the cornerstone of the third temple on the summit of this mount. In the year of Our Lord 1926. The homilist was Monsignor Rempe of Chicago.
By November 7, 1927, the outer structure of the church was complete. Mary's shrine officially reopened to pilgrims on July 15, 1929 when the lower church, now the Chapel of St. Therese of the child Jesus (the Little Flower), was blessed and the first Eucharistic Liturgy celebrated by Monsignor Bernard G. Traudt of Milwaukee. Two more years passed until the upper church was ready for blessing and dedication.
Bishop James Griffin, of Springfield, Illinois officiated in the name of Samuel A. Stritch, then Archbishop of Milwaukee, on July 18 and 19, 1931 for the dedication ceremonies. Traditionally, as soon as the altars in a new church are blessed they are immediately decorated with flowers and appropriate linens in preparation for the first celebration of Eucharist. This first Eucharistic Liturgy took place on July 18, 1931 and was attended by invited guests. The official dedication ceremony for the new Shrine of Mary - Help of Christians at Holy Hill, Wisconsin was celebrated on July 19, 1931. For this ceremony, the doors remained closed and the sanctuary empty until Bishop Griffin blessed the doors with holy water and opened them to the public.
The next major construction at Holy Hill was the present friary done under the superiorship of Fr. Bernardine Tinnefeld. This split-level structure is built into the side of the hill and is joined to the rear north side of the church. A type of inverted stair design in the construction of the building makes each floor progressively longer than the floor below. The front of the building is six stories high. The section which adjoins the church is only two stories high. These two stories are the fifth and sixth floors of the friary. The friary choir is on the sixth floor of the building and overlooks the upper church sanctuary (pilgrims enjoy hearing the friars recite their community prayers when the choir windows are open). The oratory for the upper church is directly below the choir. This is the fifth floor of the friary and the same level as the floor of the upper church. The friars moved into their new home between February 7 and II, 1938. This building was blessed on May 24, 1938 by the order's provincial, Fr. Augustine.
The construction of the friary was the last major work done at the hill until the construction of the present shrine chapel. There were two objects of interest added to the hill in 1956. These are the eight-foot double-white carrara marble statues placed above the entrance to the upper church. The statue of St. Mary - Help of Christians is on the left, and the statue of St. Joseph protector of the order is on the right. The statues, which were raised into position on July 2,1956 under the superiorship of Fr. Stephen Dzuban, are anchored to the church structure by iron rods that pierce through the back of each niche.
Efforts to provide modern conveniences for the pilgrims led the friars of Holy Hill to their next major enterprise: the construction of the elevator tower, observation deck, new gift shop and guest house. This massive undertaking was accomplished by the Hutter Construction Company. Fr. Columban McGough was superior of Holy Hill at the time. The dedication took place on October 28, 1962. Many pilgrims welcomed the modernization, but just as many felt deep regret over the loss of the beautiful staircase that graced the shrine entrance for thirty-one years.
There is a hallway located between the elevator tower and the lower church entrance, which is now known as the Marian Hallway. When it needed painting in 1967, Br. Francis Enders decided that he would undertake this task. His artistic efforts reproduced several symbolic representations of Mary's titles. His labor of love was completed in 1968. Br. Francis had entered the order as a young man, but left to marry and raise a family. He re-entered in later life as a widower.
Within the spirit of John's teaching, these friars engage in apostolates that are in accordance with their interests and abilities. Some practical apostolates include gardening, general maintenance of buildings and grounds, tailoring, guest house management, nursing, cooking and more. Other apostolates include celebrating liturgies for pilgrims, retreats, spiritual talks, spiritual counseling, administration of the sacraments, personal blessings, Benediction and Marian devotions (rosary, litany and scripture services). The ordained Carmelites of Holy Hill often help out the neighboring parishes with liturgies on Sundays and holy days.
Reverence for Mary
Holy Hill is dedicated to Mary's honor under the title Mary - Help of Christians. Many people wonder why the Catholic Church has such great reverence for Mary. The simple reason is that she is the mother of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, and since we honor our own mothers, all the more reason to honor His. The Catholic Church, however, carries greater depth of meaning in its Marian tradition. In order to understand why great recognition is given to Mary, we must understand the nature of her Son. Mary's son is the Divine Logos in full humanity. Jesus of Nazareth is the incarnate Word of God - the Word made Flesh. Mary is the Theotokos the God-Bearer. She allowed the Divine Logos to take on human flesh within her body by the power of the Holy Spirit.
It was she who brought Jesus into the World (the Incarnation) that He might redeem all mankind. With her Fiat - "let it be", she said yes to God and by this act of faith, en-fleshed the Second Person of the Triune God (Lk 1:38). She became the mother of the Second Person of the Trinity who is God not in part but in whole - who is man not in part but in whole. She is justly called the Mother of God because Jesus Christ is Lord and He is her son. She is the God-Bearer because she brings her Son to all humanity (Council of Ephesus, A.D. 431).
The Main Sanctuary
One of the first sights to a pilgrim's eyes is the beautiful main sanctuary of the upper church. At the center of the sanctuary set against a backdrop of gold, is the main altar. The altar, which took two years to build, has a total weight of more than forty tons. It is supported by three piers each five feet square. The altar proper is sculptured in Tavernelle marble. This marble will acquire a hue similar to old ivory with age. The altar table is a monolith of Botticino marble twelve feet long, three feet wide, and five inches thick. It rests on an antependium of six columns. The five front panels, also of Botticino marble, illustrate ps. 42:1, "As the deer pants for streams of water, so my soul pants for you, 0 God." The words are engraved in Latin on the outermost panels.
The seven streams flowing from the fountain in the center panel are symbols for the seven sacraments of the church. The lion-headed spouts from which they flow signify their effectiveness in spiritual warfare. The entire fountain with the symbol of Christ above represents the Lord Jesus Christ as the water of life according to Jn. 4:14, "but whoever drinks of the water that I shall give him will never thirst; the water that I shall give him will become in him a spring of water welling up to eternal life."
These words from the Imitation of Christ, which refer to the Eucharistic Liturgy, are engraved in English on the left side of the altar: "When a priest celebrates, he honors God, he brings joy to the angels, he edifies the church, he helps the living, he obtains rest for the departed, and makes himself partaker of all good things" The words engraved on the right side of the altar, which refer to the celebrant, are from the life of St. Norbert: "What then are you, 0 priest? Nothing and everything. 0 priest take care lest what was said to Christ on the Cross be said to you, 'He saved others, Himself He cannot save"' (Mk. 15:31). These quotations are not visible to the pilgrim.
The crucifix above the top of the altar is on a background of red Verona marble. It is encircled with an outline of gold mosaic. The outline symbolizes Christ's eternal Kingship. The areola of blue, red and gold marble inlay is studded with thirty-three inserts of blue marble that represent the earthly life of Christ. The entire piece is part of the back of the altar (reredos) above the tabernacle.
High above the hand-hammered bronze tabernacle, which weighs 500 pounds, is the triple crown of Christ. The triple crown represents Christ as prophet, priest, and king. It also symbolizes the Chair of Peter and church unity. The crown is supported by four bronze columns that extend over thirteen feet above the altar table. The area between the top of the tabernacle and the base of the triple crown is called the throne. The throne is two and one-half feet square at the base. It represents the city of God. A dove, symbol for the Holy Spirit and wisdom, is set within the throne but directly underneath the triple crown. The double door of the tabernacle features a cross with a wheat and grape design imprint. The cross is over a sunburst background.
The reredos is carved "Floradine" (sic) marble. Eight original compositions of the doctors of the church, along with the coat of arms for their religious orders, are carved into it. A brief description of each follows:
St. Alphonse, a bishop and doctor of the church, was born in Naples in 1696. He is the founder of the Missionary Congregation of the Most Holy Redeemer. He died at the age of 91 in 1787.
St. Bonaventure, the seraphic doctor of the Order of St. Francis. The saint died while attending the Council of Lyons, and was buried by the assembled bishops in 1274. Sanctity and learning raised him to the church's highest honor.
St. Augustine, bishop of Hippo in Africa and doctor of the Church, was born in 354 at Tagaste in Africa. For thirty-five years he was at the center of ecclesiastical life in Africa and a great fighter against heresy. A prolific writer, he is best known for his theological work The City of God and his Confessions. He died in 430.
St. Cyril, patriarch of Alexandria in 412 and doctor of the church, courageously defended the doctrine of the Incarnation against Nestorius, bishop of Constantinople. (Nestorius denied the two natures of Christ and the Divine Maternity.)
St. Cyril was victorious in 431 when 200 bishops assembled at the Council of Ephesus and deposed Nestorius in the name of Pope Celestine 1. The council declared Mary to be the God-Bearer (Theotokos) and thus confirmed the dual nature of Christ. St. Cyril died in the year 444.
St. Thomas Aquinas was born at Aquino, Italy, in 1226. The title of Angelic Doctor was given to him. It indicates that his writings as philosopher and theologian were inspired. He died on his way to the general council of Lyons in 1274.
St. Bernard, doctor of the church, was born at the Castle of Foun-taines in Burgundy. His works reveal his devotion to the Blessed Virgin. One day while visiting a church at Spire, Germany, he cried out the words that the church added to the Salve Regina: "0 clement! 0 pious! 0 sweet Virgin Mary!" He died in 1153.
St. John of the Cross was born the son of a weaver in Ubeda, Spain. After entering the Order of Carmelites he became the great helper of St. Teresa in the reform of the order. St. John's many works on mystical theology earned him the title Mystical Doctor. John was an artist as well as a writer and man of prayer. He lived a life of penance and died in 1591.
High above the main altar is the beautiful canopy of white Cordova stone. The canopy is more than seventeen feet in width and thirty feet in height. The harmoniously balanced moldings and fillets arch forth to represent the spread of the gospel throughout the world. The architectural masterpiece is crested by two ornamental features bound by an endlessly interwoven line work. This line work represents the eternal plan of salvation. (The design is repeated over the outer entrance to the upper church.)
The canopy is supported by four red Verona marble columns, each quarried from a single piece of marble sixteen feet long. The columns weigh more than two tons a piece. Each is set upon green marble bases. The capitals, also of Cordova stone, are carved with the symbols of the four evangelists. The bases are carved with the names of the Old Testament prophets and priests.
The three panels of the canopy contain the beautiful mosaic, The court of Heaven. The center panel of the mosaic protrays Jesus at the right hand of the Father, with Mary and Joseph below. The outer panels are illustrations of the twelve apostles. This mosaic was designed in Munich, Germany by the Van Treck studios and contains a combination of 90,000 pieces of glass and ceramic.
The beautiful large hand-wrought bronze candle holders in the main sanctuary and the shrine chapel stand over seven feet high. They match the smaller candle holders on the altars, which are about 3 feet high. The communion railing, an artistic piece of forged iron and bronze, harmonizes perfectly with the candle sticks. The communion railing symbolizes the temple vale of the old testament. The railing carries an inscription that acts as encouragement and invitation to every pilgrim who enters the Shrine of Mary - Help of Christians. On the left from the book of Kings, "Elijah (Elias) ate and drank and walked in the strength of that food unto the mount of God," and on the right from Jeremiah, "I have brought you into the land of Carmel to eat its fruit and the best things there of."
Conclusion
Some may object visiting such places because they have been taken over by the Novus Ordo religion of Vatican II. I'm of the opinion that so long as one does not participate in the false liturgies, ecumenical gatherings, or any other kind of event pertaining to communicatio in sacris is completely free to go for their own benefit. In fact, Holy Hill was declared a Shrine with a "Portiuncula privilege" (plenary indulgence) by Pope Leo XIII in 1903.
Being a guest myself, I can certainly say it's a great place for meditation on many different levels. The property has larger than life-size stations of the cross ascending up a paved walk way to the church. There is a traditional chapel midway up to the main sanctuary dedicated to St. Therese of Lisieux and what's really unique is the stain glass windows depict her entire life from when she was a baby to her death and ascension into heaven as a saint on both sides of the wall. The main Basilica itself is gorgeous with plenty of artwork.
On the side of the transept there are numerous crutches as a testimony of the handicapped pilgrims who have walked away with no need for them once they left. Other reports of cancer victims and various illnesses are claimed to have been healed there.
There is a tower one can walk up to the top of which is an ascent of 178 steps and I can say it's not for everybody but where one can enjoy an incredible view at the top. There is a gift shop and if one were looking to stay they do have the Old Monastery Inn or the New Guest House for very cheap prices ranging from $40-$60 a night. It's very patrolled by security at the front entrance throughout the night.
Whatever may be the circumstance or reason one travels to this place, may they take with them the words of St. John the Baptist "Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make straight his paths. Every valley shall be filled; and every mountain and hill shall be brought low; and the crooked shall be made straight; and rough ways plain."
Dear Introibo,
ReplyDeleteThank you for your historical blog post. Happy feast of the Annunciation and stay tuned on my blog for a Traditional Catholic perspective of the WW2 Liberation in my country. I am also a writer and I am planning on writing a Father Brown fan fiction in which Father Brown (GK Chesterton's character) lives to see Vatican II and he rejects the Novus Ordo, and instead offers the Latin Mass. He also visits my country the Philippines to celebrate the Latin Mass.
Ryan
Ryan,
DeleteGood luck on writing your book! Let the readers and me know when it comes out!
God Bless,
---Introibo
Thanks so much Lee! Certainly looks beautiful!
ReplyDeleteI have chosen to stay away from NO churches altogether. The R&R group that mentored me for a bit, before I escaped, brought some Saint quotes to my attention which has formed my decision. Does anyone know if the quotes are accurate? I am so suspicious of much in these dire times! God bless!
St. Basil the Great, Doctor of the Church, that recounts true Catholics avoided the church buildings during Arian times although they contained validly consecrated Hosts, because those buildings were places of evil. Here are St. Basil’s words:
Religious people keep silence, but every blaspheming tongue is let loose. Sacred things are profaned; those of the laity who are sound in faith avoid the places of worship as schools of impiety, and raise their hands in solitudes, with groans and tears to the Lord in heaven.
Quoted from The Arians of the Fourth Century, by John Henry Cardinal Newman, Third Edition, E. Lumley, London, 1871 (Epistle 92) pp. 467-8 (emphasis added).
Thanks be to God for the teaching of the great St. Basil, to stay away from the heterodox places and priests even when they have the validly consecrated Hosts! (Of course, in the conciliar churches, the hosts are often, or always, NOT valid.)
Saints, such as St. Hermenegild, proved with their blood the great evil of associating with heterodox priests on the excuse that they have valid Hosts. Pope Saint Gregory the Great, Doctor of the Church, who was a contemporary of St. Hermenegild, recounts his glorious life and his courageous martyrdom because he refused the valid Communion from a bad but valid priest.
Here is St. Gregory’s account:
King Hermenegild, son of Leovigild king of the Visigoths, was converted, from the Arian heresy, to the Catholic faith, by the preaching of the venerable Leander, Bishop of Seville, one of my oldest and dearest friends. ... It was the Feast of Easter. At an early hour of the night, when all was still, his wicked father sent an Arian Bishop to him, with this message, that if he would receive Communion from his hands, (the Communion of a sacrilegious consecration!) he should be restored to favor. True to his Creator, the man of God gave a merited reproof to the Arian Bishop, and, with holy indignation, rejected his sinful offer; for though his body lay prostrate in chains, his soul stood on ground beyond the reach of tyranny. The Bishop therefore, returned whence he had come. The Arian father raged, and straightway sent his lictors [i.e., officers], bidding them repair to the prison of the unflinching Confessor of the Lord, and murder him on the spot. They obeyed; they entered the prison; they cleft his skull with a sword; they took away the life of the body, and slew what he, the slain one, had sworn to count as vile. Miracles soon followed, whereby heaven testified to the true glory of Hermenegild; for during, the night, there was heard sweet music nigh to the body of the King and Martyr, — King indeed, because he was a Martyr.
The above quote is taken from the Dialogues of St. Gregory the Great, quoted in The Liturgical Year, Dom Prosper Gueranger, Paschal Time, Vol. II, April 13 (parenthetical words in the original; bracketed word added; emphasis added).
Thanks be to God, that St. Hermenegild preferred to die rather than have any connection with a validly-consecrated Host in the hands of a heterodox priest!
Anon 10:53,
DeleteI certainly understand where you are coming from. Thank you for reminding us of St. Hermenegild who would not give into human respect. He is a saint for our time indeed. The comment is much appreciated.
Lee
Hello Lee and Introibo
ReplyDeleteI don't wish to speak ill of the Traditional Cleric's but having watched Bishop Bernard Fellay of SSPX preaching for a number of years I always get the impression that he looks intoxicated.He rambles on and on sometimes for 40 mins and at the end I don't understand where he is coming from.His view of things is strange and not Catholic.
God bless,Robert
Robert,
DeleteYour last sentence should tell you all you need to know.
Lee
In the absence of a traditional chapel, I understand the SSPX to still be a viable option (subject to the provenance of the priests' ordinations).
DeleteI trust this is the correct position? Please correct me if I err.
Anon 4:50,
DeleteI personally have nothing to do with them for many reasons. Primarily because of the faith itself. I used to go to validly ordained priests (ordained in the 40's and 50's) when I was in the indult many years ago and stopped going.
Regarding what I just wrote, let me share with you a true story. When I and a couple others were drawing our conclusions which led to sedevacantism we told our priest (ordained in 1954) privately. He already knew we didn't believe the new mass was valid and about our doubts regarding the 68 rite of Paul VI concerning the priesthood. We had already hinted to him about sedevacanitsm in the past but this time we had a serious discussion with him. He wanted no part in it because he was afraid that people would think we were kooks and that if he embraced such a thought and revealed it that his retirement would get affected if word got back to the bishop. We respectfully held our ground and he knew that after our meeting we were not going to change our minds but we had hopes that he might re-consider. A few days later it was the last Sunday of Pentecost 2006 and I served a high Mass that day with the same priest. During his sermon he gave an entire criticism of sedevacanitsm based on Fr. Brian Harrison's arguments. He declared that if anybody held to such a position that person was not a Catholic even though we showed him a few days before how his arguments were flawed and he understood them. Nevertheless, he used them during the sermon. I was so angry, that right about the time the sermon was over and we were to proceed to the altar for the Creed, I got up, genuflected before the altar, went into the sacristy (during Mass) where I took off my cassock and surplus and I never returned. At that point, I realized that I cannot pray with somebody who doesn't think I'm a Catholic, nor can I pray with somebody who I do not think is a Catholic. Moreover, I believed that it was another religion no longer abiding by what the Catholic Church always believed. Now was I wrong? Should I have stayed and put up with it? I don't think so or else I would still be there not pleasing God but rather man. I see the SSPX in a similar way.
Also Holy oils used by the SSPX cannot be trusted because the Novus Ordo "Bishop" Huonder consecrated some of it in Germany in 2023. Link for that here: https://novusordowatch.org/2023/04/fsspx-holy-oils-vitus-huonder-invalid-last-rites/
If oils consecrated by him are used for ordaining priests or giving out last rites then you have a major problem. There is a doubtful sacrament. They also hob knob with the new religion. Why take part in their mess? Just some thoughts.
Lee
Thank you, that's very insightful.
DeleteI love on an area where it is either the Society or nothing other than sit at home.
It's a difficult situation.
Anon. 4:12
DeleteI am sympathetic for you and many out there who are in the same boat (I being one of them).
I always advise people to call a CMRI priest or an independent priest depending on who it is. They may not be able to help you out every week but they may be able to help out at least once a month. There are many missions out there which do this.
If you can travel every so often to a chapel or parish, try to do that. On the weeks I cannot attend Mass I watch it at home and try to follow along in the missal with an act of contrition and Spiritual Communion. Here is a link: https://www.youtube.com/@MIQParish/streams to a youtube channel which offers the Mass online every Sunday and Holy Day.
Lee
Thank you Lee; that helps.
ReplyDeleteThere is a CMRI mission a few hours away, every couple of weeks. I have spoken to one of the priests and, as it happens, give them my tithe, though am yet to actually attend as my car doesn't work and I am blessed with financial paucity.
I am new to the Sede position and, God forgive me, had been a long-standing FSSP attendee, of which I now understand as wholly and utterly offensive to God: in a sense, therefore, I appreciate on a personal level your earlier reply and themes therein. I used also to assist at the SSPX Chapel and was hoping that that would provide an 'acceptable' and valid option.
Thank you again.
Anon. 12:20
DeleteI was big into the FSSP for a couple years, and the priest I mentioned in the above story was himself a Franciscan but was associated with the FSSP and launched them in our area full time. They are sincere and strict and in many ways Catholic but when reality questions press them, they have no answers. They believe our position is to hard and want nothing to do with because it affects the comfort of losing parish life, sacraments, friendships etc. We must choose the narrow road of truth which leads to life. Keep trying and things will get better.
Lee
@anon12:20
DeleteMy two cents on the SSPX and R&R: I have always maintained that whether or not to attend is a matter of conscience. Lee provides compelling reasons not to go, and he should follow his conscience and NOT go. On the other hand **IF** someone does their homework and they know the R&R priest is valid, they may attend if they want when there is no sede option is around.
N.B. If anyone is in danger of death, they can and should use a R&R priest for the Last Rites. Do not put off preparation for Judgement while waiting for a sede priest who is far away.
God Bless,
---Introibo
Thank you both, that is much appreciated.
DeleteIrrespective of the validity of FSSP ordinations (if it were possible to put such a matter aside), I think they are 'defiled' and Bp. Sandbourn's latest writing in the CMRI Newsletter speaks directly to this. As, arguably, does Aggeus 2:
"12 Thus saith the Lord of hosts: Ask the priests the law, saying: 13 If a man carry sanctified flesh in the skirt of his garment, and touch with his skirt, bread, or pottage, or wine, or oil, or any meat: shall it be sanctified? And the priests answered, and said: No. 14 And Aggeus said: If one that is unclean by occasion of a soul touch any of all these things, shall it be defiled? And the priests answered, and said: It shall be defiled. 15 And Aggeus answered, and said: So is this people, and so is this nation before my face, saith the Lord, and so is all the work of their hands: and all that they have offered there, shall be defiled."
Lee,
ReplyDeleteI still struggle whether I am permitted to enter an old, once Catholic church for private piety or not. Here in Europe there is a formerly Catholic building stolen from us standing on every street corner (this is just a slight exaggeration).
Long after I had converted, I used to enter a beautiful, baroque church situated right in the middle of the busy town center. They had wreckovated the sanctuary with a monstrous table but placed it well before the old altar railing so you can kneel right before the high altar with your back against the place where they offer their (un)happy meal service. I would pray my Rosary, say the short Mass of St. John (as per Fr. Mateo Crawley Boevey), and venerate the relics that are still in the original altar stone.
Then a thought occurred to me that they may be storing their invalid communion wafer in the old tabernacle in the high altar at which point I ceased praying there.
In the vestibule of one of the side entrances of that church there is a plaque dedicated to the memory of the local priests slain at the German death camp in Auschwitz. I would pray my Rosary and the Eternal Rest there in the solitude and cold of that tiny vestibule and it made me realize all the more that I did not belong in that church building anymore.
I bring myself to visiting places like this with the tourist approach either.
It's all the more difficult if you don't have a regular, stand alone Traditionalist chapel or church where you can pray at peace.
That being said, I kind of lean towards your opinion on visiting old church buildings like Holy Hill. Still, I find it hard to ignore the company of the Novus Ordo people there and the fake red lamp, and the fake "saints" pictures, and the table, the fake clergy...
God Bless You,
Joanna
Joanna,
DeleteThank you for sharing your thoughts. I'm not against the other opinion if somebody strongly feels like they should avoid them. I'm sure good reasons exist.
Recently, towards the end of 2024, the skull of St. Thomas Aquinas made its way to America and was being transferred from church to church. I had the opportunity to see and venerate it in an old church traditionally built by Dominicans from the early 1800's. There were a few of us traditional Catholics who made it and others didn't feel comfortable doing it. I walked away with a clear conscience and was glad I went because a.) I did not pray in union with those in attendance but rather on an individual basis and b.) it was an opportunity to receive a third class relic from one of the greatest thinkers of all time. I prayed for his intercession to enlighten the minds of all in attendance to understand the difference between what is Catholic and what is no longer Catholic and to hunger and thirst for what is right.
I once brought Bp. Pivarunas to a couple old churches in my area when he happen to visit and he even gave me a confession inside one of them. That was pretty cool! Anyways, as long as prudence is exercised, I personally don't believe anything is wrong with being in old church buildings, properties, shrines, etc. if there is a good reason to visit. They were built by Catholics and for Catholics. They are really ours to begin with just as the St. Peter's in Rome is ours in spirit. It's just usurped by intruders, but what isn't in these days of apostasy.
Lee
Lee,
DeleteI agree with you. I see nothing wrong with visiting old churches either. Many of them in major cities are absolutely beautiful and they are very numerous. They do not build them like that anymore. They were fully functioning traditional churches, cathedrals, basilicas, monasteries, etc. until the V2 sect took them over a few decades ago. Their beauty remains and I have never had a problem visiting them. So many cultures that came over from Europe poured their hearts and souls into the constructions of these magnificent buildings e.g. Italians, Polish, French, Germans, etc. Hopefully one day, they will become places where traditionalists can worship there again.
-TradWarrior
Lee
ReplyDeleteJust watched the last What Catholics Believe with Father William Jenkins.
The host of the show asked Father Jenkins his thoughts on the RCI and Bishop Sanborn's position on the Vatican Two
'Popes"
He said that Father Sanborn is not a valid bishop due to a positive doubt regarding the Thuc line.Your thoughts?
The position of Father Sanborn is an invention and has never been heard of in the history of the Church.Your thoughts?
I am new to the Faith and to the sede position.Thank you
Anon. 5:56
DeleteIf he means positive doubt due to the intention of Bp. Thuc, then I would like to know how he, Fr. Jenkins, knew Bp. Thuc's "defective" intentions and how he can prove they were in fact defective. I could use the same "positive doubt" argument against the late Bp. Kelly (died 2023) when he was consecrated by Alfredo Mendez-Gonzalez in private in 1993. In fact, according to a witness of the consecration, who is now a priest, Bp. Mendez-Gonzalez forgot or innocently left out certain prayers in the rubrics on three different occasions during the ceremony which he had to redo except on the third attempt as I was told. What does Fr. Jenkins have to say about that? You see two can play that game. I personally do not doubt in either the SSPV or Thuc consecrations. Here is some more information regarding the "Spiritual Cooties" of SSPV sacramental penalties by Fr. Cekada (died 2020) https://www.fathercekada.com/2019/07/04/spiritual-cooties-the-sspv-sacramental-penalties-after-30-years/
As far as your other question, I don't fully buy into the Cassiciacum Thesis proposed by Bp. Sanborn. I understand it and it's not necessarily new. He got the idea from the late, dare I say, saintly Dominican theologian and confessor of Pius XII Bp. Michel-Louis Guérard des Lauriers (a Thuc bishop by the way). It's based off the Dominican school of thought which explains how we can get a pope again in the most realistic way possible. I think it's noble and the points are made well but I don't believe a man can possess the material side of an office if he is spiritually not a member of the Church. A second problem is Holy Orders. Say the thesis is true and everything falls in place where all the men who've apostatized receive their offices of authority back well then what about their Orders. Who is going to ordain and consecrate them once they've receive their offices back? I don't think they are going to look for sedevacantists bishops to do that, especially when they do not claim to have ordinary jurisdiction.
Not sure if any of this helps you and I will say that I could be wrong on some of these things. Like everybody else I'm in the same boat.
Lee
There is an interesting debate between Frs. Jenkins & Cekada regarding the Thuc line bishops which can be seen on the YouTube. The premise of this debate was the refusal of Fr. Jenkins to give the Sacraments to parishioners of (I think) St. Gertrude the Great.
DeleteI'm a 'fan' of both men (particularly Fr. Cekada) and thought Fr. Jenkins won the argument easily, both in what he said and in the way he said it.
Anon 1:02
DeleteI'm not a fan of either priest but I thought Fr. Cekada won the argument because he demonstrated the five reasons how Canon Law permits a priest to refuse Holy Communion to a layman and Fr. Jenkins never objectively gives a reason as to why his reason fits with Canon Law.
Lee
Yes,... however, and from only from memory and via the darkness of my miserable ignorance, Fr. Jenkins applied the sensible handle of 'common sense' in any application of the canon. That is, he spoke to what was the obvious intention of the law, rather than the gymnastics of squeezing through a situation whose particulars were not saliently identified, i.e. 'loopholing' it through.
DeleteIntroibo?
@anon1:02,
DeleteWhen I watched, I was certainly more of a "fan" (I can't think of a better word at this moment) of Fr. Jenkins at that time, so I was certainly trying to give credence to whatever he was saying, but I still think Fr. Cekada won. Fr. Jenkins can certainly be persuasive with his delivery, and he also has a very good speaking voice in my opinion, which I think play big roles.
-S.T.
Thank you, yes, Fr. Jenkins is a solid communicator.
Delete@anon1:00 and Seeking Truth
DeleteI know Fr. Jenkins personally, and he is a much nicer person (as one would expect from a priest) than Fr. Cekada who thought quite highly of himself and would insult anyone who disagreed with him.
I personally have problems with both of them, theologically speaking. Fr. Jenkins is WRONG on the issue of "Thuc bishops," and no attempt has ever been made to refute Mr. Derksen's incredibly well-reasoned defense of the validity of the ordinations/consecrations of Thuc. With the case against "Thuc bishops" demolished, Fr. Jenkins' reasons against giving Communion to people who go to such clergy, also falls apart. In my opinion, Fr. Cekada won handily.
That being said, I find it the height of irony that Fr. Cekada made up "sins" that simply do not exist and became the exact "follow me or die" cleric he once abhorred. His "ban" on attending so-called Una Cum Masses went so far as him saying that IN DANGER OF DEATH, a Traditionalist who only has access to a valid R&R priest (such as SSPX) must NOT receive Holy Viaticum from said priest because the Host was somehow "tainted" by being consecrated at an Una Cum Mass. Fr. Cekada had ZERO authority to declare attending an Una Cum Mass a "sin" or to declare one cannot receive the Eucharist confected at such a Mass, even when in danger of death. As I pointed out in refuting his position, one of his citations actually means the opposite of what he wrote. As he is not alive to defend himself, I will not claim it was intentional deception--although it appears that way to me.
His other huge intransigent stance --which was scandalous--was defending the cold-blooded MURDER of Terri Schiavo by her adulterous husband. Even when a neurologist corrected his medical misinformation on her condition, and an approved theologian frompre-V2 corrected his wayward theology, he refused fraternal correction and dug his heels in.
I would be remiss if I didn't state that Fr. Cekada did much good in exposing the V2 sect and promoting sedevacantism. I hope that he died in the state of grace.
God Bless,
---Introibo
Thank you very much, that is most informative & helpful. I pray for Fr. Cekada's repose and invite others to do likewise. His analysis of the 1968 changes to episcopal consecrations is invaluable.
DeleteAnon 1:00,
DeleteTo refuse a lay person Holy Communion the lay person must be (by Church law)
1. Excommunicated (must state in what way they were excommunicated)
2. Under interdict (committed 1 of 4 offenses pertaining to this)
3. Notorious Infamy (to pick on of the 7 offenses committed and when and how they committed it)
4. Public and notorious sinners
5. Or some other law. (must be able to state it)
Fr. Jenkins did not state how the people he refuses Communion fall under these Church laws. Instead he used guilt by association tactics because of his gut feeling on his disbelief in the Thuc consecrations. He used examples of hypotheticals of other people of which the people he refused had nothing to do with such as the man wearing a ball cap in church example.
He also is willing to give SSPX people Communion and yet doesn't require that they break with the SSPX. Talk about double standard! If people really think he won then they are not thinking logically.
Lee
I want to clarify my statement regarding Fr. Jenkins, so as not to look uncharitable (if in fact I gave that impression). I do not agree with his stance (as discussed above), as it is frustrating and does much harm. I do wish he sees the error of his ways. That said, I have no doubt he does many good things, and I do pray for him. I was attempting to convey regarding the debate, that at the time I was listening to it, I was very open-minded to what he had to say (including on some of his WCB talks on the topic) and took it seriously.
Delete-S.T.
These comments are interesting! I saw the Fr Jenkins show too and he also does not buy the Thesis, for reasons similar to you Lee. Neither do I, makes no sense to me...I just hope and pray God gives me His Light in these areas because it seems one has to be a theologian to understand half these concepts. This R&R group in similar to Fr Jenkins as they are anti Thuc. So they has me brainwashed or convinced too. They sent out their newsletter today with this article about visibility, which was always difficult for me to overcome. Is there any great writing on visibility? If a billion Catholics are still deceived, maybe many due to this visibility issue. I am in the sede camp now but it took me 5 years after R&R to arrive here. It all so frustrating because the second guessing is never ending! God bless all!
ReplyDeletehttps://catholiccandle.org/2025/03/27/the-catholic-church-will-always-be-visible-with-a-pope/
Anon. 2:07,
DeleteOne thing that is visible for all to see is the apostasy of the Vatican II Church and how it differs from the popes, theologians, and saints of the Catholic Church prior to it. One would only be in denial if they did their proper research.
I wrote an article about the mark of Oneness on this website a while back. Here is a link to that: https://introiboadaltaredei2.blogspot.com/2023/12/the-first-of-four-marks.html
Lee
Lee
ReplyDeleteMy question to Father Jenkins is why does he not take the time to refute the writing of Mario Derkson.I am not at all impressed why he keeps going on and on about the doubtful Thuc line.From what I have heard,a number of SSPV folk do attend Thuc line Masses went out of town.
Keep up your fine writing and God bless
Anon 5:04,
DeleteIt's a good question. I don't think he has a good answer in writing to back up his claims. Many lay people in the SSPV don't agree with that position and I think that is a good thing showing that many are not of a cultic mind but of a Catholic mind. Thanks for the comment.
Lee
Lee,
DeleteThank you for your ongoing defense of the "Thuc-bishops"! It has been a great help to me.
-S.T.
@anon5:04
DeleteIf there were good arguments to refute Mr. Derksen, it would have been done by now. Mr. Derksen's position and logic are airtight. They choose to ignore the evidence rather than engage with it. Yes, many SSPV do go to CMRI when travelling. Good for them.
God Bless,
---Introibo
www.ThucBishops.com
ReplyDelete@anon8:14
DeleteGreat link! Thanks for sharing!
God Bless,
---Introibo
Hi Lee
ReplyDeleteGreat writing on Holy Hill.Thank you
Regarding the comments of Father William Jekins.I think most sedes have had enough of his petty garbage about the Thuc bishops,CMRI,etc.A number of SSPV faithful have changed their views.What I think is very shameful is the CSPV bishops have never issued any statement regarding the 100 page study that Mario Derkson did back in 2011 over 14 years ago.My family and friends have said this was outstanding and the CSPV if they want credibility need to reply.Is there any SSPV folk who read this blog can give their thoughts.
Looking foward to more future writing from you Lee.Peace be with you my friend
Anon 3:59,
DeleteI think you are right in your analysis. I'll try my best in regards to the future. Thank you for the comment.
Lee
@anon3:59am
DeleteI agree with you on what you said. It makes the SSPV/CSPV look very bad when they have never publicly issued a refutation of Mario’s work. If they are that convinced that it is wrong, than a refutation should have been issued immediately. To police the communion rail over this issue is going way too far. They hold to opinionism on Sedevacantism, but dogmatism on the Thuc consecrations. They have it backwards. Just as I see problems with the SSPV on the Thuc issue, the same can be said of the RCI on many things. Their over emphasis on the Cassiciacum Thesis is bizarre. It is a thesis, and to me, it violates Pope Paul IV’s “Cum Ex Apostolatus Officio” with heretics being barred from holding the papal office. Many of the RCI seem to speak of the Thesis as if it were a fact. It is not. It is purely speculative. Their dogmatic anti-Una Cum enforcement is something that has never existed in all of church history. To say that it is a mortal sin for the lay faithful to attend such Masses is to exercise a power that they do not possess. The Catholic Church allows for the reception of the sacraments from excommunicated clerics (declared heretics), yet undeclared heretics are completely off limits. It makes no sense. Their rejection of the Pian Holy Week, yet their acceptance of the 3 hour fast, makes no sense if one believes that Pius XII was truly pope. We either follow him or we do not. Which is it? The RCI has also ticked off MANY people with their extremely strict dress code. This has hurt many families who have been humiliated over the dress code rules. Yes, it is important to dress nicely for Mass. But they take it WAY too far. In Medio Stat Veritas is something that they do not understand. The CMRI has always been the most well balanced on the issues that divide the Sede factions. No one is perfect and without a pope it is hard on everybody, but there are some issues here where certain camps should see the errors of their ways.
-TradWarrior
TradWarrior,
DeleteI agree. Also, regarding the thesis I once heard a sermon from an RCI priest who said something to the effect that the thesis is the only thing that makes sense, and anyone believing in other solutions such as divine intervention or an imperfect council (which probably also would involve divine intervention?) is being ridiculous. It was a while ago, and from my memory I don't even know how relevant it was to the sermon. It seemed to me the idea was being pushed.
-S.T.
Lee
ReplyDeleteThe 2002 video debate on the Thuc Bishops available on youtube.Father Cekada took Father Jenkins to pieces.He gave solid documentation,etc while Father Jenkins had nothing to give out.
A few weeks ago Father Jenkins was calling into doubt the ordination to the priesthood of Bishop Richard Williamson(RIP)Where does it end.
Anon 8:00,
DeleteAgreed. I remember when Covid was going on and he welcomed the SSPX lay people from the surrounding area to come to his church but not Thuc attendees.
Where does it end? It never ends. It would be nice to have a pope to slap them around a little. I sometimes wonder if having a pope for them even matters because they are so used to doing their own thing that obedience to the pope would only be when they feel like it.
Lee
Lee,
ReplyDeleteThanks for your informative post. What a beautiful place, a real labor of love.
God Bless,
S.T.
Seeking Truth,
DeleteIt's a lovely place of peace. I know money is always an issue but I love when every so often traditional Catholics can get lucky and buy old churches and have them restored and run like parishes like they used to be. I wish we could do that with shrines and monasteries instead of them being in the hands of the new church.
Lee
I wish for that too, that would be glorious.
DeleteTrad Warrior
ReplyDeleteGreat comments thank you so much.
The following from Mario Derkson
Appeal to the SSPV.Please acknowledge the facts.The society of St Pius V is being asked to respond to these arguments in public and writing.The ball is in their court.Is there anything unreasonable in this request?If the Thuc consecration's are as "dangerous" as you claim,why not take the time to respond to the evidence presented.
I think it is so shocking,shameful and disgusting that 14 years later still no response from the SSPV/CSPV.They will answer to God for all the hurt and division they have caused.
Lee,Introibo
ReplyDeleteThere is a video on youtube by What Catholics Believe called The Thuc Consecrations
Father Jenkins said that Mario Derkson has no standing to make his comments.He is not a theologian of any means.How foolish that Traditonal groups would look to him for the final word on Thuc.Mario's arguments are riddled with flaws.Mario is not answering the questions.The gentleman who runs the show said to Father Jenkins that everyone needs to read the book of Bishop Kelly.Father Jenkins also said that why people accept the Thuc bishops is because it is basically easy for them.People are grasping at straws.
We are shocked at this video.Father Jenkins has a sick and confused mind.Yes,where doe's it end.Good grief