Saturday, November 9, 2013

Intentionally Deceived Into Becoming Disciples of Hell

 I must say I was surprised to see a comment left on my last post of 11/8/13, by a Vatican II sect author I had cited. The comment was from Ms. Sherry Weddell author of the 2012 book entitled Forming Intentional Disciples: The Path To Knowing and Following Jesus. I had used her statistic that only 60% of Vatican II sect members who attend the Novus Bogus bread and wine service believe in a personal God. I reproduce here the "clarification" she left on my post:

"No. What I wrote is that according to the Pew Forum's 2008 US Religious Landscape, only 60% of all American Catholics of any age and attending any liturgy, practicing or non-practicing, believe in a personal God. Sherry Weddell."

 I can't understand how an intelligent woman fails to grasp what I wrote. Ms. Weddell should know from reading the post, and looking at my blog, that I am a  Traditionalist sedevacantist, (i.e. A True Catholic who realizes that Vatican II has taught heresy. Pre-Vatican II theologians always taught that the pope, as an individual, could fall into heresy and would immediately lose the pontificate. This is exactly what has happened in the wake of Vatican II and its six false "popes").  Those who adhere to Vatican II and its bogus hierarchy are NOT CATHOLIC. They belong to a man-made religion formed from the heresy of Modernism condemned in 1907 by Pope St. Pius X. This Vatican II sect occupies the former Vatican and its various buildings and institutions.

"American Catholics" is a term for the members of the Vatican II sect who don't merely reside in America, but are also infested with the manifold materialism and moral perversions that pervade our current society. Juxtapose this with "Roman Catholics who live in America." That phrase describes what's left of the True Church in Traditionalist sedevacantist Churches and Chapels. So, Ms. Weddell is talking about 40% of all members of the Vatican II sect of any age and "attending any liturgy" who deny the existence of a personal God. Here she must think that Traditionalists are concerned with the "Latin Mass." The problem is not the "liturgy" it's the loss of the True Faith and Morals brought about by Vatican II. Whether the Novus Bogus, or the "Extraordinary Rite," which is the Modernist tainted 1962 Missal with further heretical additions made by Ratzinger, they are equally imbued with all the errors of Vatican II. The Novus Bogus is always invalid, and the "Extraordinary" mess is usually invalid, as they are offered by invalidly ordained "priests" of the new rite of ordination (1968-present). Whether practicing or not, the lack of God's grace given in the True Mass and Sacraments in the True Faith, is what has caused the collapse of belief in a personal God.

 If Ms. Weddell had a survey of Traditionalists (whether of the Society of St Pius V, CMRI, or independent sedevacantist priests), she would see that we go to great lengths and hardships to attend the True Mass because we have the True Catholic Faith--whole and entire. The Catholic Faith which infallibly taught at the First Vatican Council:

1. If anyone denies the one true God, creator and lord of things visible and invisible: let him be anathema.

2. If anyone is so bold as to assert that there exists nothing besides matter: let him be anathema.

3. If anyone says that the substance or essence of God and that of all things are one and the same: let him be anathema.

4. If anyone says that finite things, both corporal and spiritual, or at any rate, spiritual, emanated from the divine substance; or that the divine essence, by the manifestation and evolution of itself becomes all things or, finally, that God is a universal or indefinite being which by self determination establishes the totality of things distinct in genera, species and individuals: let him be anathema.

5. If anyone does not confess that the world and all things which are contained in it, both spiritual and material, were produced, according to their whole substance, out of nothing by God; or holds that God did not create by his will free from all necessity, but as necessarily as he necessarily loves himself; or denies that the world was created for the glory of God: let him be anathema.

 We Traditionalists ALL believe in a personal God and every other divinely revealed Truth of the Divine and Catholic Faith!!  Please read my fist post in 2010, to see my definition of what it means to be a Traditionalist. We are not the "Indult" or "Motu" organizations within the Vatican's heretical organization and falsely claiming the title "Traditionalist."

I thereby stand by what I wrote--with the additional comment that the Vatican II sect members have their faith robbed even when not attending a Modernist so-called liturgy.

Ms. Weddell's book is Modernism on steroids. It's a product of the "feel good religion." As I explained in my last post, Modernism seeks to reduce Faith from an act of the intellect adhering to unchanging Truth based on the authority of God, to warm and fuzzy feelings that want a "nice, nice, sweet, sweet" Christ. One that doesn't obsess over the murder of unborn children, or perverts raising children. A syrupy Christ who condemns nothing and whose "vicar" tells us "Who am I to judge?" This is the same pseudo-faith that is responsible for these other stats from the book:

  • Only 30 percent of Americans who were raised Catholic are still practicing.
  • Fully 10 percent of all adults in America are ex-Catholics.
  • The number of marriages celebrated in the Church decreased dramatically, by nearly 60 percent, between 1972 and 2010.

  •  What's Weddell's answer to this mess? One Mr. Jonathan Sullivan captures it well in an review:
    Weddell begins with a review of the data that should be familiar to all of us: decreasing Mass attendance, Catholics leaving the Church for Protestant communities, and a general "disengagement" from the life of the parish by many of the faithful. But she doesn't just leave us with cold, hard facts. Thanks to her work with parishes across the country Weddell is also able to weave compelling anecdotes that put a human face on the crisis. Most surprising to me were the number of people who have left the Catholic Church not because they were failing to moving closer to Christ but because, as they more fully embraced their call to discipleship, they had no one in their parishes to support them or who understood the sudden fire that had been lit in them. That the Church is losing both unengaged and highly motivated members -- leaking from both ends, as it were -- should alarm all of us.

    Let me see if I've got this correct--no further clarifications necessary---people are leaving the sect that claims to be the One True Church not because they fail to get closer to Christ, but because there was no one to "support" their "inner fire." Right. This lunacy comes from the heretical Vatican II declaration on Ecumenism Unitatis Redintegratio paragraph #3

     For the Spirit of Christ has not refrained from using them (protestant sects--Introibo Ad Altare Dei) as means of salvation which derive their efficacy from the very fullness of grace and truth entrusted to the Church.

    Protestant sects a "means of salvation"?? Compare the teaching of the True Popes:

    Pope Leo XIII
    [Encyclical Satis cognitum, June 29, 1896]
    The Church of Christ, therefore, is one and the same forever; those who leave it depart from the will and command of Christ the Lord — leaving the path of salvation they enter on that of perdition. “Whosoever is separated from the Church is united to an adulteress. He has cut himself off from the promises of the Church,and he who leaves the Church of Christ cannot arrive at the rewards of Christ...He who observes not this unity observes not the law of God, holds not the faith of the Father and the Son, clings not to life and salvation.” (St.Augustine, Sermo CCLXVII, no. 4)


     Pope LEO XIII
    [Encyclical Tametsi, November 1, 1900]
    Consequently, all those who wish to reach salvation outside the Church, are mistaken as to the way and are engaged in a vain effort. 

     Pope LEO XIII
    [Allocution for the 25th anniversary of his election,February 20, 1903]

    This is our last lesson to you: receive it, engrave it in your minds, all of you: by God’s commandment salvation is to found nowhere but in the Church; the strong and effective instrument of salvation is none other than the Roman Pontificate. 

    Pope ST. PIUS X
    [Letter Ex quo, nono labente, November 26, 1910,to the Apostolic delegates of the Orient]
    And may God, the author and lover of peace, in whose power are the times and moments, hasten the day when the peoples of the Orient with return to Catholic unity, and, once more united to the Apostolic See, repudiating their error, will enter the port of eternal salvation.
    Heretical and schismatics sects are not a means of salvation, and those who adhere to them have no hope of heaven, unless they are excused from fault because of invincible ignorance. Therefore the teaching of Vatican II, that non-Catholic religions are a means of salvation, is heretical, since it is absolutely contrary to Catholic teaching.
    However, Ms. Weddell will assure us that the answer to the ills that face her sect is a "personal relationship with Jesus Christ." Can everybody say "Amen" my "born-again" Protestant brothers and sisters? Once more, faith is reduced to "feelings", "encounters", "walking with Jesus in the journey of Faith" and other sentiments. These sentiments can even send someone outside the Church to have their needs met because they had no one in the parish to help them, and they can just as easily be saved there as in any other religion, or at least those claiming to be "Christian." But to be "Catholic" is best, so let's emulate Protestants even more to retain and bring in members; and who cares about True Faith and Morals? Just tell everyone "The Great Story of Jesus" and we can dispense with all those pesky dogmas and "thou shalt nots."
    Jesus Christ would never send someone out of the Ark of Salvation, for "Outside the Church there is no salvation" (Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus). Whatever spirit is involved in Ms. Weddell's making disciples, it is not the Holy Ghost. A True Catholic has his meeting with Christ when receiving Him Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity in True Holy Communion, and becoming as close as possible to Him this side of Heaven.
    It is my hope that Ms. Weddell and her Vatican II sect members see the errors of their ways and convert to the True Church of Christ. The answer to what ails the world is not another variation of Protestant, feel good ecumenism. To have a Real Encounter with Christ, you must belong to His Church, the Traditionalist Catholic Church. That is the only place these deceived "disciples" will find the Way, the Truth, and the Life apart from a happy go lucky path of shortcuts, lies, and eternal death in Hell.


    1. I love it! I've just recently found your Blog, but I find myself looking forward to reading every new post.
      Thank you for explaining the clear & obvious reasons for
      why we Traditionalists believe as we do. God Bless!��

    2. Thank you for the kind words! My purpose in maintaining this blog is to (1) keep Traditionalists strong in the Faith (2) convince pseudo-Traditionalists (non-sedevacantists like the SSPX) of the inconsistency of their position and to embrace sedevacantism, and (3) expose the Vatican II sect for the false religion it is and convert others to the beauty of True Catholicism. If I have any success, I give all credit and glory to God for allowing me to be His unworthy instrument.

      1. Thank you for writing back.
        Everything you stated as wanting to accomplish in your Blog, is what I recognize & appreciate in your posts. There are very few places I can go to learn about the truth you teach and which I agree with.
        Where I live, there are no TLM. There is one SSPX Church 35 miles from me. I will probably have to join it because it is the only choice I have that is not Novus Ordo.
        May I ask your opinion on this? There are no Sede. Churches anywhere near me.
        Would you go to the SSPX Church?
        I really would appreciate knowing what you think.
        Thanks so much and May God continue to bless you in your ministry!

    3. Your question is an excellent one. I will dedicate my next post on the use of non-sedevacantist Churches/Chapels since it requires a detailed and thoughtful response. It will be published by this weekend at the latest!

    4. You're crazy. This whole website/blog is crazy. Oops, I'm sure I'll go to Hell for say this!!!!!!!!!

      1. Well, if I'm crazy then you should have no problem proving it with well-reasoned arguments. Calling someone names is what we call an "ad hominem" argument ---attacking the person and not addressing his arguments.
        All of my posts are based on sound, valid arguments whose premises are taken from the primary sources. If you believe my arguments are fallacious/unsound--then prove it!! I'll be happy to debate you.

        You will not go to Hell for "say this (sic)" however, if you reject the Integral Catholic Faith (not my blog or any other blog/website), then you will be lost, as per the teaching of Christ's One True Church. And if all you do is call people "crazy" without the guts and/or brains to back it up, you will end up looking like a total ignoramus. I'll pray for you!