Monday, November 23, 2020

Dead Serious

 

It was September 1981. I was 16 years old and had just met Father DePauw one month earlier. On November 1st, I would forever disavow the Vatican II sect, and become a Traditionalist. Unfortunately, I was beginning my junior year in a Vatican II sect high school. I had received a scholarship to attend after graduating "intermediate school" (as New York City called its middle schools at that time) with honors. As there were great racial tensions and gang violence here in the late 70s/early 80s, my parents wanted me to take the scholarship, avoid the dangers, and concentrate on my grades. 

It was only by the Grace of God that I didn't become an avowed atheist, and found the One True Church instead. This school was run by the most "Modernist of Modernists." Bergoglio himself would have approved this place. Most of the teachers were ex-nuns and ex-brothers who hated anything that was even remotely Catholic. Having abandoned their vocations after Vatican II, they sought to overthrow in the minds of the young both the true Faith and morals. 

None of them prayed before class or spoke of God outside of religion class. It was more hostile to Christ than any public school. There were only two nuns (one Modernist and one traditional-minded who was shunned and made to teach typing). There was one priest (validly ordained in 1964), who "offered mass" on a broken, wooden table and "offered up" sports equipment along with the host and drinking mug (which replaced the Chalice) so that our sports teams could have a winning season.

"Brother Francis" (not his real or religious name---Introibo) taught junior year religion. He was a member of the Society of Mary, having taken his final vows in 1954. He told "jokes" that were so vulgar to a captive audience of 16 year-old boys and girls I cannot and will not reproduce them here. One such "joke" involved the sexual assault of a woman (what's "funny" about that, I'll never understand). I actually repeated that so-called joke to my father. I saw this World War II active combat veteran blush. "He said that to teenagers??" I asked my father if he would complain. He knew it was wrong, but after a long pause he said, "Well...he is a brother..." My father grew up in the pre-Vatican II era when clergy/religious got a pass on things that no one else would. The Modernist clergy used the misplaced and excessive respect to perpetrate their evils, as the molestation scandals clearly show. 

Brother Francis once read a vile and blasphemous poem in which it was implied the Virgin Mary and St Joseph had marital relations. All this coming from a man belonging to a religious order dedicated the the Most Immaculate Virgin. Our Lady of Fatima said, "More souls go to Hell for sins of the flesh [sins against the Sixth and Ninth Commandments] than for any other reason." Even though it is a private revelation, I believe this to be true; especially when you consider approximately 35% of all websites on the Internet are pornographic. 

The title of the junior year religion course was "Meeting the Living God." We were told it was meant to show us the reality of God. Naively, I thought we would learn about the Five Proofs of God's Existence by Aquinas, or something apologetic along those lines. Instead, what happened next was a form of emotional child abuse from which I still carry some scars--as do many of my classmates. On the first day, we were told to get our chairs in a circle. Brother Francis joined in the circle. We were told that we had to tell of when we first realized God was real--and it had to be when someone in our immediate family died.  I was in shock. What does the death of a family member have to do with knowing God exists? Many people get angry at God or actually question His existence when losing a family member.

I was caught between a rock and a hard place. Br. Francis had quite the temper when he wasn't telling ribald "jokes." I was an only child (as was my mother). Both my parents were alive at the time and my one uncle and aunt were alive. Everyone complied, mostly by describing the death of a grandparent. When it was my turn, I tried to explain my situation, and he snapped at me, "You MUST answer! You CANNOT pass!" Scared and flustered, I lied about seeing my grandfather's death (all my grandparents died before I was born). "Excellent! Excellent!" he responded to my made up story.

In the weeks that followed until the end of the school year, we would listen every class to tapes of a woman who sounded like she just arrived off the boat from Germany. Her name was Dr. Elisabeth Kubler-Ross (she is pictured at the top of this post with "saint" Mother Teresa). Kubler-Ross (1926-2004) would tell us, each school day, in her thick German accent, all about terminal patients she visited and what death would be like. Welcome to "Death Education." Introduced into both the Vatican II sect schools, and public schools, it is now well ingrained in our culture---to the detriment of all. This post will focus on Kubler-Ross, Death Education, and the evil consequences it brings.

The "Death-spert"

Kubler-Ross was born in Switzerland, and raised Protestant. She immigrated to the United States and became a psychiatrist. At first she studied and lived in New York City beginning in 1958. Kübler-Ross completed her training in psychiatry in 1963, and then moved to Chicago in 1965. Circa 1962, she began interviewing terminally ill patients of all ages, so that doctors could better understand what they were going through and be more compassionate. What began as a noble and worthwhile goal, soon degenerated into something very different.

The doctor became obsessed with death, and dedicated all her time to interviewing dying patients. The result was the publication of her ground-breaking book On Death and Dying in 1969. It outlined the "Five Stages of Dying" (aka "5 Stages of Grief;" or just "The 5 Stages"), which details the five stages a person allegedly goes through when they are told they have a terminal disease and will die; Denial, Anger, Bargaining (with the "higher power"), Depression, and Acceptance of Death.

 Although her foundation, "The Elisabeth Kubler-Ross Foundation" (or EKR Foundation), denies that these stages were meant to be strictly interpreted as happening to everyone, it was (and still is) certainly taught that way by most. Br. Francis brought in as a guest speaker a man who nearly died from a heart attack. The speaker denied going through any period of anger (at God or in general). When the man left, one of my classmates told Br. Francis that obviously all stages are not necessarily experienced. By his response, you think she had denied a defined dogma. "Yes he did! He doesn't remember, or he went through it very fast. Don't ever say that!!" (There is now even something called the "Kubler-Ross Change Curve"--See https://www.ekrfoundation.org/5-stages-of-grief/change-curve/).

Kubler-Ross convinced her husband to buy forty acres of land in Escondido, California, near San Diego, where she founded "Shanti Nilaya" ("Home of Peace" hospice). It was there she started getting involved with the occult. Then, by the early 1980s, she was the "Queen of Death and Dying." Her book (and others that followed), workshops, speaking tours, etc., made her quite wealthy. Her foundation does more than a bit of sanitizing her life. The "Five Stages" became like the "Twelve Steps" of AA, and it was the only "moral way" to die. You were to find the "Higher Power" in interacting with the dying. She claimed to have encountered the spirits of the dead. She held seances, and came to the conclusion that death itself is the "sixth stage," where you enter into bliss. Death was "beautiful" and to be welcomed, because death doesn't really exist; it's the next chapter of life where everyone is happy.

She came to this epiphany by way of an "out of body experience" whereby she met "spirit entities." She wrote that “I saw myself lifted out of my physical body. … [I]t was as if a whole lot of loving beings were taking all the tired parts out of me, similar to car mechanics in a car repair shop. … I had an incredible sense that once all the parts were replaced I would be a young and fresh and energetic as I had been prior to the rather exhausting, draining workshop. "After several trips to the auto repair shop and a lot of heart to hearts with the heavenly mechanics, she began to speak about death as the fountain of youth: “People after death become complete again. The blind can see, the deaf can hear, cripples are no longer crippled after all their vital signs have ceased to exist.” The emphasis had shifted from a spiritual renewal while still alive, albeit dying, to the physical renewal awaiting one after death. It made death seem all too sweetly attractive (especially at a time when there were deep-rooted problems in the medical establishment’s handling of dying patients). Some might say it made suicide seductive to the physically and mentally troubled. Death, in her new view, was a kind of Lourdes-cum-plastic-surgery spa. (See https://slate.com/culture/2004/09/the-treacly-legacy-of-kubler-ross.html; Emphasis mine).

A scandal erupted when it was revealed that she was conducting a workshop for grieving widows. She invited a "spirit-channeler,"Jay Barham, a former sharecropper and aircraft worker, who founded the Church of the Facet of Divinity to contact the deceased husbands. They were in the dark, and Barham encouraged the women to engage in sex with the spirits of their husbands. “How is it,” one asked, “that an entity, a pure spirit, has cigarette breath?” Once, when the lights were snapped on, they claim to have seen him clearly, naked except for a turban...Kübler-Ross has been unshakable in her support of Barham. “He has so much integrity,” she says. “The truth does not need to be defended.” (See https://people.com/archive/sex-visitors-from-the-grave-psychic-healing-kubler-ross-is-a-public-storm-center-again-vol-12-no-18/). This is the founder of "Death Education."

Death Education = Deadly Consequences

At Columbine High School, the site of the infamous school shooting of April 20, 1999, Death Education was implemented in the 1980s. What Kubler-Ross initiated with her book and which took off in the 1970s, was in most public and Vatican II sect schools to one degree or another. In 1990, nine years before Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris would begin shooting the school up, a former Columbine student, Tara Becker, gave a speech at a pro-life conference warning about the dangers of Death Education. 

Tara explained that the subject of death was integrated into many of her courses in high school. She said that death was made to look glamourous, that living was hard, and that reincarnation would solve their problems. Students were told that they would always return to the "oversoul" and become like God. After one of the students at her school committed suicide, a "suicide talking day" was held and every class was to talk about death. Class assignments were for students to write their own obituaries and suicide notes. They were told to trust their own judgement in choosing whether to live or die. (See Tom Rose, "Hidden Faces of the Littleton Tragedy," Christian Statesman, September-October 1999).  Tara considered suicide, but Deo gratias, decided against it. It was only after graduation that she realized how her emotions and ideas had been manipulated. 

Death Education has become so big, there's even the Association for Death and Education Counseling, that offers certification in Thanatology (i.e., the study of death, so named after Thanatos, the Greek god of death; See https://www.adec.org/page/Earn_Certification). The EKR Foundation gives citations to dozens of references to the "5 stages" in popular culture, ranging from TV, to movies, to music, and plays. (See https://www.ekrfoundation.org/5-stages-of-grief/5-stages-in-popular-media/).

Hopefully the dangers of Death Education are apparent. The correct view on death, as the Church teaches, is that death is a consequence of sin. We should remember death so as to never lose sight of our destination of Heaven. However, we must not morbidly dwell on it so as not to live our life as God wants us to do. Death is to be feared insofar as we must do all we can to take reasonable good care of our bodies and live our lives well so we can avoid Hell. 

Death Education destroys this teaching:

  • It portrays death as "beautiful" and not to be feared because everyone goes to a "happy place" or is reincarnated. In the Vatican II sect version there is universal salvation. Thus it implicitly promotes suicide as a way out of life's problems
  • It causes depression to dwell on the topic, which in turn promotes unhealthy anxiety about death. (I became depressed, and if not for Fr. DePauw, I don't know how I would have handled it)
  • It promotes ecumenism and universalism (which explains, in part, why Kubler-Ross admired Mother Teresa)
  • It is connected with pagan ideas, such as reincarnation, and can lead to occult practices, such as trying to contact the dead (necromancy)
  • It leads people to believe the truth about God's existence is to be found in studying those who die around them. God is to be discovered based on emotions, not reason, and subjective experiences, like Modernists teach (according to vital immanence, religion arises purely from within man himself, deriving all its credibility and force from man's own personal experience as its source)
  • It makes people feel like there's something "wrong" with them, if they don't agree with all that it teaches; especially if they don't see death as "beautiful," but still naturally fear it

Conclusion

Br. Francis went to Judgement a few years back. I hate to think of his experience now, which is most likely anything but beautiful.  The depression from Death Education turned to anxiety for me, and affected many in my high school. Someone I know from those days became a hypochondriac, becoming worried that every cold he had, or pain he felt, might be something serious that could kill him. I still get slightly anxious when the subject of death comes up. My mind races back to Kubler-Ross giving us talks about watching terminally ill patients slowly dying--and subjected to it for 40 minutes every school day for a whole year. I remember talking about our deceased relatives, and how this all allegedly brings us (ironically) to "Meeting the Living God." No faith or morals required, it's all going to be happy, happy, joy, joy. 

In this time of COVID be especially vigilant as to what your children are being told about death in school. Information to stay safe is fine, but Death Education is dead wrong. 

79 comments:

  1. Thank God that you did not become an atheist after this experience that you describe at the beginning! This shows how the Vatican II sect is poison to the soul.

    I know a French-Belgian theologian who teaches a theory that when we die we will meet Christ who will show us our whole life and give us the choice between following Him or following Lucifer, who would present himself to us at the same time. According to this theologian, humble people will follow Christ and proud people will follow Lucifer. It's a theory that resembles one condemned by the Holy Office in the 1930s. The theologian I'm talking about has produced a lot of videos to explain his ideas, inspired in part by near-death experiences. He is a modernist who adheres to the heresies of the Vatican II sect and I think his theory would be formally condemned by the true Church. I believed in it for a long time, but now I am with the true Church and its teachings. In court, you don't have the choice between prison or freedom. It will be the same at the Judgment. We will receive the righteous sentence for our actions in this life.

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    1. Simon,
      Yes, that theory of a special revelation to accept or reject God at the moment of death, revealed to all people in a manner similar to the testing of the angels was making its way around in the 1950s. It was a resurgence of a similar theory from the 1930s, and just as you correctly stated, the Supreme Sacred Congregation of the Holy Office condemned it.

      The wisdom of your last sentence says is all:
      "We will receive the righteous sentence for our actions in this life."

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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  2. No doubt EKR's ideas helped push the world toward legal abortion and euthanasia.
    Even hospice care has taken a dark turn from it's original mission of providing comfort and palliative care for the incurably terminally ill, to the active killing of patients by morphine injection - even those who are not "terminal", but whose "quality of life" is deemed by the bottom liners as simply too low to remain alive. I watched helplessly as a dear relative was euthanized in a place that was run under "Catholic" auspices. It still sickens and depresses me to think about. This same scenario of "compassion" is played out over and over. This whole death cult is pure evil and the V2 church is a great champion of it.

    Intro, after hearing your chilling story I know it had to be God's grace that steered you to the True Church. These Novus Ordo institutions have to be from the lowest pit of Hell!
    Jannie

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    1. Jannie,
      You're right about everything you wrote! The Vatican II concept of "conscience ruled." We were taught that premarital sex was OK. One of my classmates had no less than THREE abortions by age 17. The school knew about it and said "it was her choice."

      Lowest pit of Hell indeed!

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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    2. It was revealed to São Macarius in private revelation that the bottom of the hellish abyss is reserved for Catholics who are lost. The conciliar sect is an image of this abyss.

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    3. @anon6:33
      The V2 sect is the image of that abyss par excellence.

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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  3. Thank you Introibo, much appreciated. God bless!

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  4. Kubler-Ross was not a psychiatrist, but a psychopath. If Brother Francis was a good Catholic he would have taught about the seriousness of mortal sin and the remedy's for not committing them and how to prepare for death in the state sanctifying grace. But nope, more crap as usual from the Vatican II sect which makes me hate that faux religion so much more.

    Thank you for sharing your story and I sympathize with you. I converted completely out of the Novus Ordo (including 3 years of indult masses) by the time I was 21, but during my high school years I remember such stupidity taught at my CCD classes. Not necessarily about death but whether Adam and Eve had belly buttons and other impure things which I won't mention. I remember the Columbine high school shooting and how around that time period there was a fad where high schoolers were into being gothic because of Marilyn Manson and other similar devil music that was popular. All I can say is (to Our Lady the Blessed Virgin Mary) "pray for us now and AT THE HOUR OF OUR DEATH. AMEN"

    Lee

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    1. Lee,
      sad how corrupt and evil the V2 sect is and the souls they lead to Hell. By the Grace of God, you were not one of them. You understand that the best way to make sure Mary will be with us at the hour of our death, is to stand by Her and Her Son--NOW during the Great Apostasy!

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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  5. Covid-19 is just a cover for a global reset into a communist society.

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    1. @anon6:46
      That's how the globalists are using it!

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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    2. Introibo,
      What does the pre-vatican II Church say about the NWO?

      JoAnn

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    3. Joann,
      If by "New World Order" your referring to the End Times, it deals with the Reign of the Antichrist. The tern "NWO" has other political, and not necessarily theological, connotations.

      ---Introibo

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    4. Introibo,
      Have you done an article on the end time and reign of antichrist?
      Also from what I have gathered a lot of the NWO political concepts have their originations and have come out of Protestantism. I believe that most of the NWO political concepts are to induce panic, fear and drive conspiracy theories. Just my 2 cents.

      JoAnn

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    5. Speaking of conspiracy theories:
      Slovakia's Prime Minister, Igor Matovic, says that those who don't take the vaccine will most probably have their rights limited
      https://www.hlavnespravy.sk/matovic-vlada-neplanuje-zaviest-zakaz-cestovania-pocas-vianoc/2356316

      Here's an excerpt (translated by Google):
      The Prime Minister also touched on the controversial topic of vaccination, where he spoke openly for the first time that people who cannot be vaccinated are likely to have limited rights.
      He said he could not say whether vaccination would be mandatory. He added that people will probably have a choice, the unvaccinated will have more difficult travel, for example.
      "From the beginning, the Minister of Health and I have been pushing for the vaccination to be voluntary, I'm just saying that we can fall into such a trap there that if it turns out that only 30 percent of people would be vaccinated in the end, because the others will say, but that I don't need it, so we'll have a problem with the covid here for another two, three, four, five years. "
      Matovic said that such a system must be found so that the people who are responsible do not pay extra for the irresponsible. "I hope Europe can find the answer. As I have preliminarily heard, such voices are that European countries are saying that they will not allow people who will not be vaccinated to travel to their countries. "
      He said he would be vaccinated according to "what notes the European Union gives". "First of all, we will test healthcare professionals and then the people who are most at risk, that is - people over the age of 65. As the vaccine increases, so will the less and less risky ones."

      Qantas Airlines CEO, Alan Joyce (a proud sodomite) says that vaccination is a necessity for international travel
      https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/health-safety/qantas-ceo-alan-joyce-says-proof-of-covid19-vaccination-will-be-a-condition-of-international-air-travel/news-story/410d37274bcdbd7adf60db6ca4112a8d

      Funny how these PMs and CEOs read each other's minds...

      God Bless You,
      Joanna S.

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    6. Joann,
      I have indeed done a post on the Antichrist, See
      http://introiboadaltaredei2.blogspot.com/2016/12/the-man-of-sin.html

      ---Introibo

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  6. First of all, the majority of the faculty at your high school sound demonic.

    Secondly, I find it quite ironic that Br. Francis and so many "teachers" at other schools would take as proverbial gospel a psychological theory that has no empirical foundation. (How would you even begin to survey, define, or "test" for these "stages of grief"? In theory, if someone were to exhibit a stage "out of order", then it would be rendered false. However, in practice, it sounds unfalsifiable.)

    Even modern research into the nature of bereavement has unveiled criticism of Kubler-Ross's model (https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0030222818809766 ; https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0030222819840476; https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK66052/), which is only natural: grief is a species of sorrow, which is a passion of the soul according to St. Thomas Aquinas (ST I-II, q. 35). As a sensitive appetite, attempting to *quantify* sorrow (as though there is a basic unit of sorrow to be had; "Bob has two woes of sorrow, Jim has four, oh wow, Tommy has forty woes!" If that sounds ridiculous, then congratulations: you're cognizant of human nature) is an exercise in futility, precisely because emotions and appetites vary from person to person (and are often greatly affected by one's upbringing).

    But hey, I'm not the one trying to formulate a psychological model of grief based on an out-of-body experience with a "spiritual entity". Maybe we can save time and just call it a demon or a devil, for the fruit of Kubler-Ross's model is sufficiently poisonous to qualify.

    Sincerely,

    A Simple Man

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    1. ASM -
      Well, that about says it!
      Keep on commenting; I so enjoy your insights.
      Jannie

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    2. Simple Man,
      I'm in complete agreement with Jannie!

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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  7. Introibo:Do you know anything about Father Bernard Champagne of Orange,CT?Who ordained him and does he have many folk at his Church.He has three Masses including a High Mass on Sundays.

    What happened to the SSPV chapel in Wappingers Fals,NY?

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    1. @anon6:04
      I don't know anything about Fr. Champagne. I invite my readers with any facts to send them to me and I will publish them. As to Wappingers Falls, all I know is that SSPV priests have been moved around. Fr Baumberger is no longer in NY but Montana. Perhaps send an email to SSPV (or call Roundtop, NY seminary) to get more info.

      ---Introibo

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    2. To anon@6:04 PM,

      A preliminary Internet search has turned up the following:

      - His church "Our Lady of Sorrows" filed a lawsuit against their town's health director (a guy by the name of Amir Mohammad, no less!) regarding the COVID restrictions earlier this year, alleging he targeted religious institutions unequally compared to other places (which wouldn't be surprising). https://www.nhregister.com/news/coronavirus/article/Orange-church-sues-health-director-alleges-15272458.php

      - An old article from 2013 (https://patch.com/connecticut/orange/new-pope-francis-i-elected-orange-priest-hopes-he-bri5f106db71b) shows that Fr. Champagne hoped that Bergoglio's election would be a good thing for the Catholic Church. To quote: "He seems to be somewhat conservative and I'm hoping he'll bring the church back to some type of sanity again...much of South America has turned Protestant. Hopefully this Pope will renew the faith in South America again." In the interest of charity, I'm going to assume that Fr. Champagne had little to no knowledge of Bergoglio's history in Argentina. (I'm also going to assume that he's been incredibly disappointed as what Bergoglio has done to the Church, at the very least; given that he's still not in union with the V2 diocese as of 2020 per the above link, this probably still holds.) Per this article, as of 2013, his chapel served 115 parishioners.

      - He apparently co-wrote a book in 2018 called "Good People go to Hell, Bad People go to Heaven". (https://www.amazon.com/Good-People-Hell-Bad-Heaven/dp/1641386452) Based on the PR summary (https://www.prweb.com/releases/2018/06/prweb15589945.htm), I assume the title is intentionally provocative as a lead in to make the authors' point. (Per one reviewer on Amazon, "This book is the opinion of one priest. If you listen to him almost everyone is going to hell." In other words, Fr. Champagne appears to be of a similar disposition and opinion as St. Leonard of Port Maurice, OFM).

      As for who ordained him, I'm afraid I don't have any answers to that one currently. You can try contacting him at ourladyofsorrowsct@sbcglobal.net to see if he'll assist you with your questions.

      Sincerely,

      A Simple Man

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  8. During the ‘70’s, I attended a Catholic grade school in The Bronx. We spent summers at a local beach club. One day some friends and I encountered,Brother Joe at the beach club. He was from our school. As we admired the girls, he said “he could look but he could not touch”. That moment has always stuck with me. I am still as shocked by it now as I was then. I was no devout Catholic as a child but that seemed strange to me. Years later, as I finally came around, I realized how important that moment was to me as I learn the errors of the new VII church.

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    1. @anon6:32
      Perhaps that gospel reading resonated with you even when young: " But I say to you, that whosoever shall look on a woman to lust after her, hath already committed adultery with her in his heart." (St. Matthew 5:28).

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  9. How did you meet Fr.DePauw?
    I've read your blog for years and haven't read about your first meeting.
    God bless Andrew

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    1. Andrew,
      It's a story worth telling. When I found out my parents lied about the existence of Santa Claus, I began to question their story about God. (I'm very mush against telling children about the Masonic Santa Claus--see my post http://introiboadaltaredei2.blogspot.com/2017/01/secret-santa.html).

      When I asked my parents why I should believe in God, they couldn't give a satisfactory explanation. At 11, I became convinced God wasn't real. At the age of 13, my life changed when I came upon an old locker where my dad kept a few old books. Three of them would change my life; Butler's "Lives of the Saints," the works of St Thomas Aquinas, and a 1959 hand Missal. Aquinas explained the existence of God to my satisfaction. The lives of the saints inspired and enthralled me, and the Missal was a fascination. By age 13, I was convinced of the truth of the Catholic Faith.

      I decided to become an "altar boy" (more like "table boy") at the local V2 Church. My father rarely attended Church, although raised devoutly by my grandparents, and my mother had no use for religion, even though raised Catholic. She stopped going after Vatican II as she didn't like the Novus Bogus.

      What I found there was not at all like what I read. The saints died rather than deny one iota of the Faith, yet the priests here (apostates from pre-Vatican II) taught one religion was more or less as good as another. The "homilies" were devoid of discussion of dogma or morality, and were about making jokes and discussing left-wing politics.

      When I asked the priests any questions, they either didn't know the answer (perhaps just didn't want to answer) or became angry. I once brought in my father's old Missal and asked why the "mass" of Vatican II was so different. The priest flew into a rage and told me that Vatican II "realized" the mass was really a meal and not some "sacrifice." He told me to "take that garbage out" (the Missal) and not to bother him because I was just a kid who didn't know what he was talking about.
      (continued below)

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    2. My father would get the NY Times on Sunday. It was the only pleasure we could afford, being very poor. As I was looking through the Times one Sunday, I saw an ad: "Looking for the Traditional Unchanged Roman Catholic Mass and Faith? Come to Westbury Long Island to the Ave Maria Chapel with Fr. Gommar A. DePauw, JCD."

      I thought, maybe this is where the faith resides. I told my parents I wanted to go there. They were stunned. I told the pastor, I was no longer going to be an altar boy but was going to the Traditional Mass with Fr. DePauw. "DePauw? He's outside the Church and disobeys the pope! You'll be in mortal sin." I asked him why this was the first time he ever mentioned mortal sin. I also asked why he said it was ok to be Protestant in one of his homilies since they are not part of the Catholic Church either. Finally, I asked "If it's bad now, was it bad when you offered it? If you must always follow the pope, why do you make up your own words during mass as you go along?" I asked all this one after the other. He stared at me in rage, and told me to get the H*ll out and don't come back.

      I had never taken the train to Long Island before, but on August 9, 1981, I put on one of my few decent clothes I had (complete with tie and jacket) and made my way to the 9AM Mass at the Ave Maria Chapel. It was, indeed, "the most beautiful thing this side of Heaven." I knew I had found the One True Church that I had read about in those old books. I came home on cloud nine! I wrote a letter to Fr DePauw with lots of questions, and when I went back on Saturday for the Feast of the Assumption, Fr had the usher deliver a letter to me with everything answered as only a canonist could do!

      I met with him and told him I wanted to join the Catholic Traditionalist Movement. On November 1, 1981 I signed the Profession of Catholic Faith and the Anti-Modernist Oath, and became a Traditionalist.

      There's much more to be said, but that was how we met, and the first time I've mentioned it explicitly on my blog!

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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    3. Great story + Laus Tibi Christiè.
      God bless my Catholic Brother.
      -Andrew

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    4. Introibo,
      your story is a true gem! It is such a marvelous example of God's supreme goodness! I absolutely love it and hope to share it with my family - there's still so much to be done within my own home. I've already told my brother some time ago about what you once posted on Twitter, that Cardinal Spellman would come weeping at the feet of Fr. DePauw, asking the good priest whether God will forgive him (Cardinal Spellman) for not having fought the Vatican II disaster. I could see that it struck a chord with my brother.
      I believe it's these kind of real life stories that might be most powerful and beneficial for converting the unhappy souls still tied to the Novus Ordo.
      Please, keep on sharing such stories with us!
      May the good priestly soul of Fr. DePauw rest in peace and may his saintly example convert souls still.

      God Bless You,
      Joanna S.

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    5. Intro, I read this, literally with tears in my eyes...
      What a story! You had to have been guided on your path by the Holy Spirit Himself.
      God bless and keep you.
      Jannie

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    6. Thank you for this. It amazes me that someone as young as you were had such great wisdom and insight to seek higher things. I was raised in a philistine home, and my dad encouraged me to be highly critical of "organised religion" of all sorts, even though he knew nothing about it. After attending various protestant churches over the years, I wanted to join the Catholic church, and attend the same mass and pray the same prayers as the Saints. Of course, what I actually joined was the protestant Novus Ordo religion, but didn't entirely realise it until a couple of years ago. I am now a few multiples of 13 years old (when you knew you were being deceived), and left the V2 organisation on the Vigil of St Andrew 2019. If only I could have known sooner! Thank you so much for your insights and explanations.

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    7. Introibo,
      "There is much more to be said, but that is how we met"
      Your testimony is so moving. Would you consider devoting an entire post so we can hear the entire story? Also it would be beneficial if others then could share their testimony if they so desired. Many people who are in the NO, R&R, etc., may then be able to relate to the various testimonys. Testimony's are powerful! Rev. 12:11 "And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony".
      JoAnn

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    8. Introibo, Wow! That is an amazing story. I too remember my first Latin High Mass. Afterwards, I still recall how it was the most Catholic thing I had ever seen up until then. There was no going back to the NO after that.

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    9. Introibo,

      A very interesting post! Historical events like that always have a weight to them makes them hit harder. Probably because they remind us that other people dealt with the same struggles we endured.

      Sincerely,

      A Simple Man

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    10. Andrew, Joanna, Jannie, Richard, Joann, Tom, and Simple Man,

      Thank you all so much for commenting on my conversion story! I think I will devote a post to my time with Father in the near future. If the testimony resonates so powerfully, I must continue to do so!

      God Bless You All,

      ---Introibo

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    11. Just now reading your story. I loved it. Thank you for sharing!

      I have a story but it's not as good as that. For me it took time to distinguish the difference between the Novus ordo Church and the Catholic Church because I eventually became fascinated with the Latin Mass (indult) and thought that as long as I go to a valid priest I'll be alright (there is much more to how I got to that point when I was stuck in the Novus Ordo Church but maybe another time). Let's just say that when the issue of sedevacantism came up all priests including valid ones, acted as disgusted as that priest who told you to get the "H*ll" out. The difference was I was loyal to them and like them until I saw the persistent cowardly resistance to sedevacantism. A learned priest, where I was attending Mass, would criticize Vatican II's teachings but publicly wouldn't renounce is as quick as he did sedevacantism. In fact, I was serving at the altar of this priest who had a sermon that publicly shamed any of us in the parish (a small few) who questioned whether any of the Vatican II popes were really popes. He then started mispresenting what sedevacantists believed and made it look like if you believed it, that you were outside the church. I couldn't take it anymore, so I got up in my cassock and surplus genuflected to the altar and went to the sacristy, took off my cassock and surplus and went home thinking about where I could I could find a real priest who was a real Catholic. Anyways that is just a snippet of my experience.

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    12. Lee,
      Thank you for sharing your story! Thank God we saw our way home to Christ and His Church (by His mercy and grace)!

      ---Introibo

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    13. Please do tell how your non practicing parents later converted. Mine are the same and I want to help as far as possible.

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    14. Mary's Vagabond,
      My parents gave up (what they thought was) the Catholic Faith after Vatican II. When I became a Traditionalist and saw how happy I had become, and how I couldn't wait to go to Church, they wanted to see for themselves the Ave Maria Chapel.

      I urged them to come with me, and they agreed! After their first time seeing Fr. DePauw offer Mass, my father came out, looked at me, and said, "Wow!" The Mass of his youth with the explanations of Fr. DePauw. My mother liked it also. They came back after a couple of weeks. Then every other week, and finally, my father said, "This is the True Faith. I'm regaining what was lost!"

      One month later my father and mother both joined the Catholic Traditionalist Movement and attended Mass there with me ever so faithfully. They both died in the One True Church, after receiving the Last Rites.

      The best way to convert your parents is by:
      Prayer and sacrifice
      Your good example
      Edifying Catholic literature
      Getting them to attend Mass with you.

      I'll be praying for your success getting your parents to convert!

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo


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    15. Thank you. I might not be so lucky because mom lived thru the changes and was overjoyed (finally we can understand what goes on at the altar) and is indifferentist and evolution of doctrine etc. And my father already had a lukewarm 60s Jesuit education so don't know how taking them to the non una cum TLM might help, though they and I may be. given extraordinary graces. Still I'll do my best.Thanks for prayers. God's will be done!

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  10. I went to a NO high school too and I remember they taught this stuff as well, they even had a class dedicated to it called "death and dying" or something like that. Funny because their pope Aint JP2 always blathered on about a "culture of death"

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    1. From reading the experiences and stories from attendance at Vatican II Sect schools, I am glad the small town I grew up in didn't have a V2 sect school and I had no choice but to attend a public school!

      JoAnn

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    2. Ryan,
      Yes, the irony was not lost on me either! Perhaps he wanted to start one of his own such cultures.

      ---Introibo

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    3. I attended Novus Ordo 1-8 and were taught about Leftist Polish Labor unions in Religion class.
      -Andrew

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  11. Hello Introibo.Do you or your readers know of any valid traditional priests or bishops outside the Vatican Two sect who perform exorcisms?Were told of bishop Mckenna but he is dead.We have been having some major problems with the house we live in.

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    1. @anon7:28
      You could call on SSPV or CMRI to investigate. If approved by a Bishop, the exorcism could be performed. I ask my readers to send any other names of Traditionalist Catholic clergy who would do an investigation as to the feasibility of performing an exorcism, and I will publish said names. It could prove very beneficial in these wicked times.

      ---Introibo

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    2. Yes,we would be interested to know of traditional clergy who perform exorcisms.Introbio,do know Bishop Giles Butler does many at.Do you recommend him and it depends where these folk live.

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    3. Introibo,

      Is a bishop with only supplied jurisdiction still needed for approval of an exorcism?

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    4. @anon3:24
      I know of Bp. Butler. he is a valid bishop. I disagree with his stance of the Lefebvre line (to the best of my knowledge and belief he still thinks it dubious because of the "Masonic bishop" canard; even if Lefebvre's ordaining Bishop were a Mason it does nothing to "prove" a positive contrary intention"). However, if he follows the prescribed Rite of Exorcism, it would be effective in combating demons and may result in deliverance.

      @anon6:41
      No. However, priests of a Society (SSPV, CMRI) will not just "run off and perform an exorcism" without a bishop's approval. It is wise in the practical order, because the bishop (older and hopefully wiser/more knowledgeable) can make a better decision. It also prevents younger, overly zealous priests from giving credence to cases that are not demonic, and which would only serve to make Traditionalist priests look foolish and possibly even superstitious.

      ---Introibo

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    5. You can have a valid Priest or Bishop simply bless the House using the Traditional Latin Rite of House Blessing.
      -Andrew

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  12. Introibo,
    1. How would you answer the objection that Eucharistic Prayer One - the revised Roman Canon from the Novus Ordo Missae are expressing the Catholic faith? Besides, I have come across the accusations that the word "sacrifice" appears several times in the new "mass".
    This supposedly makes the new "mass" is Catholic.
    2. I also have a question is it heretical to define the Holy Mass as a sacrifice and supper?

    God bless,
    Paweł

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    1. Pawel,
      The Novus Bogus does not "express the Catholic Faith." According to theologians Ottavianni and Bacci in their rejection of the Novus Bogus ("A Short Critical Study of the New Order of Mass" commonly called "The Ottaviani Intervention.") declare that the "Eucharistic Prayers"--all of them--"no longer explicitly express the mystery of the Cross." The Novus Bogus is "the systematic and tacit negation of the Real Presence " (which they no longer have).

      Section 54 of the General Instruction of the Roman Missal, states the definition of the Eucharistic Prayer as folows:

      "The center and summit of the entire celebration begins: the Eucharistic Prayer, a prayer of thanksgiving and sanctification." This is "heresy by defect:" no mention of sacrifice or transubstantiation.

      In the prayer itself, the following saints are OPTIONAL (downplaying the Communion of saints and the reasons these saints were chosen)James, John, Thomas, James, Philip, Bartholomew, Matthew, Simon and Jude: Linus, Cletus, Clement, Sixtus, Cornelius, Cyprian, Lawrence, Chrysogonus, John and Paul, Cosmas and Damian.

      Also OPTIONAL is the very invocation of Christ: Through Christ our Lord. Amen.

      The "sacrifice" spoken of is one of "thanks and praise" just like the Anglican service which was made to DENY the truth of the Mass and the Real Presence of Christ. Proof:

      *It is offered on a table as a meal and not on an altar. The practice of reverting to the form of a table was SOLEMNLY CONDEMNED by Pope Pius XII. (Mediator Dei)

      *Twenty six signs of the Cross in the Canon reduced to two for the Eucharistic Prayer

      *Genuflections reduced from five to two. Genuflection AFTER so-called consecration replaced by showing the people first because they are the assembly and the "priest" is the president.

      * Joining of the canonical fingers until the ablution, ABOLISHED. Profane contact is encouraged.

      * Recitation as an "Institution Narrative" INVALIDATES it EVEN IF the priest is valid (most are not as the New Rite of Ordination is null and void). The priest is NOT reciting some event in the past as a memorial but was required to bend of the host and recite the words SECRETLY, DISTICTLY, and ATTENTIVELY to show he is performing an act of Christ here and now. To do otherwise is, in the opinion of many theologians a LACK OF INTENTION TO CONSECRATE.

      2. Yes. The Mass is a propitiatory sacrifice that results in the Sacrament of the Eucharist. The primary purpose is sacrifice, and as a consequence we receive Christ in Communion. This is to confuse the primary purpose with the consequence and secondary effect, putting them on equal footing.

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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    2. Is it the priest alone who receives communion as a sacrificial victim, or do the laity as well. I heard it explained by trads this way, which is why the Tridentine Mass makes an extremely clear division of the communion of the priest and laity (as opposed to the Novus Ordo). Is that understanding correct?

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      The priest alone consummates the Sacrifice, and the Church infallibly condemned the heresy of the so-called "Reformers" who taught that priests who offer Mass privately are wrong in so doing because the laity must receive Communion to fulfill the intention of Christ.

      The Novus Bogus bread and wine service of Vatican II revives that heresy.

      ---Introibo

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    4. So the communion of the laity has nothing to do with the sacrifice, correct?

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  13. Pawel,

    If you want all the answers as to how the "Mass" of Paul VI and the true Mass of the Roman Rite are different (essentially and otherwise), I highly recommend the exemplary "Work of Human Hands: A Theological Critique of the Mass of Paul VI" by the late Fr. Anthony Cekada.

    https://miqcenter.com/products/work-of-human-hands-a-theological-critique-of-the-mass-of-paul-vi-cekada-bk79600?variant=39001395783

    (You can also purchase it via Amazon, but their price is $49.95, as compared to CMRI who are distributing it at a cost of $24.95)

    Sincerely,

    A Simple Man

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    1. Look the videos in youtube

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    2. Paweł,
      there are 13 great videos posted by Fr. Cekada on Youtube, in which he gives a summary of each of the chapters of "Work of Human Hands". They are concise, highly informative and, of course, humorous - everything you'd expect of the late, great Fr. Cekada!
      Here's a link to the full playlist:
      https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDA085477E90AC096

      God Bless You,
      Joanna S.

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    3. Joanna,
      Thank you for the link!

      ---Introibo

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    4. You're very welcome!
      These videos helped me a great deal when I was still very much confused about the Novus Bogus.
      I know there's an Italian translation of "Work of Human Hands" available. This book is so well-researched and it needs to be translated into more languages; I was hoping for a translation into Polish, and would love to get involved in it. It would be a great alternative to the SSPX-promoted and thus flawed and innacurate "Pope (sic!) Paul's New Mass" by Michael Davies, which seems to be quite popular in Poland.

      God Bless You,
      Joanna S.

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    5. "The New Montinian Church" by
      by Fr.Joaquin Saenz Y Arriaga is another great book!
      -Andrew

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  14. Regarding the CMRI,I must say these fine men do work very hard.Just heard that one priest drove nine hours there and back to visit a person who had just broken from the Novus Ordo and needed to see a valid traditional priest.When a friend of this person asked this priest why he would drive so many hours,his answer was a Soul is calling and I must go.I will be held accountable before God if this Soul goes to Hell.

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      If only we had more such holy priests!

      ---Introibo

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  15. Hello Introibo.Just watched the youtube video of the talk by Father De Pauw-Conciliar or Catholic.Excellent.

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  16. Dear Friends,
    could you, please, spare a short prayer for my Brother's safety at work? I've just learned that the uneducated and totally unqualified manager of the workshop my Brother's working for wants to change the way in which a huge and heavy steel tank is going to be constructed, although my Brother has already been working hard to ensure the safety of this operation. Yesterday, a very heavy pipe slided off the pile and nearly crushed someone's foot because it wasn't tied securely enough but the near-victim just laughed it off (as well as the manager and the rest of the crew)!

    God Bless You,
    Joanna S.

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    1. Joanna,
      I will certainly pray for your broother and ask all my readers to do the same.

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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    2. Thank you, Introibo; I greatly appreciate it!

      God Bless You,
      Joanna S.

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  17. Introibo, A Simple Man and Joanna S.,
    Thank you very much for your answer and help.
    Joanna S., I also assure you about prayer.
    I would also like to ask if anyone can recommend a textbook on apologetics / fundamental dogmatics. Ideally, it should be relatively new and written by an approved theologian. I am looking for information on the authenticity, credibility and dating of the books of the Holy Scriptures (especially the Gospels - some biblical scholars specify the time of writing the Gospels of St. Matthew, St. Mark and St. Luke after AD 70 and I do not know if it is authorized by the theologians).

    God bless,
    Paweł

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    1. Paweł,
      thank you so much for your kind prayer!
      With regards to your question:
      Fr. Eugeniusz Dąbrowski (died in 1970) was a pre-Vatican II approved Polish theologian who wrote extensively on The Holy Scriptures. Plus he was a staunch opponent of the Modernist "Biblia Tysiąclecia" ("The Millenium or Thousand Years Bible"), which he famously called "The Thousand Errors Bible".

      God Bless You,
      Joanna S.

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  18. I got a call from my Brother: the most dangerous part of the construction went super smooth, like never before!
    May God abundantly reward you all for your prayers!

    God Bless You,
    Joanna S.

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    1. Joanna
      I'm very glad for your brother. Thank you for letting us know that his project went well!

      God bless you.
      Jannie

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    2. Jannie;
      I think you did not understood Joanna S. She said her brother's project went more dangerous.

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    3. To anon@6:46 PM,

      Per Joanna, the most dangerous part went super smooth, which implies everything turned out well.

      Sincerely,

      A Simple Man

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    4. Anon 6:46 PM,
      everything went very well and everyone's fine. I'm sure this is thanks to the powerful prayers of all the good souls here at Introibo's because it was supposed to be quite a hazardous operation, given the usual carelessness of my brother's co-workers but this time everyone just did their job like they should, as if St. Joseph himself was watching over them!

      Jannie,
      thank you for your kind words, they mean a lot to me!

      May God Bless You All,
      Joanna S.

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    5. Didn't understood. I thought the dangerous part went slippery and your brother could fall. :)
      Glad your brother is fine!

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  19. Anon 9:49 AM,
    It's alright :) Thank you and God bless you!

    Joanna S.

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