Monday, January 17, 2022

A Type Of Occultism

 


If anyone doubts that the Vatican II sect is not the Roman Catholic Church, one need look no further than "Fr." Richard Rohr (b. 1943) for proof. Invalidly ordained a Franciscan priest in 1970, Rohr has been spreading lies and introducing an occult practice to millions of people for years, while never being censured in any way by the sect. Popular in many Vatican II sect parishes and retreat centers is the enneagram (pronounced "any-a-gram"). Members of the Vatican II sect are told it is a very ancient Christian tool for the discernment of spirits, for the struggle with our capital sin, our "False Self," and the encounter with our True Self in God. (See Richard Rohr and Andreas Ebert, The Enneagram: A Christian Perspective [2001], pg. xxiii). In reality, the enneagram is nothing more than a doorway to the occult that has invaded many disciplines; theology and psychology to name but two.

In this post, I will show the occult origin and true meaning of the enneagram, how it is falsely portrayed by heretics like Rohr, and the dangers involved in using it. 

Enneagram: A Figure of Evil
(I wish to credit the many sources cited in the compilation of this post, especially in the formation of this section. They are numerous and I take credit for none of it---Introibo). 
The enneagram is a figure composed of three parts. There is an outer circle, an inner triangle and an irregular hexagonal figure containing nine points that touch the outer circle. Each part of it is connected to gnostic spirituality: the circle represents unity, the inner triangle "the law of three," and the hexagon "the law of seven." By discovering your "personality type" (a number from one to nine) you can become "your true self." Most enneagram teachers use the nine points on the enneagram to represent nine personality types that, according to enneagram teaching, apply to all people. The nine types fall into three groups of three, associated with the head, the heart, and the “gut.” Every person inevitably embodies one of these nine personality types as soon as they choose a basic mode of responding to the world at about the age of four. Enneagram teachers claim that by use of the enneagram one can explain why people tend to act in particular ways and can prescribe goals for adjustment and development of one’s own personality. The first step is to determine one’s personality type from among the nine possibilities.

Once one’s personality type is determined, they teach that one should strive to attain the characteristics of the personality type indicated by following the diagram in the prescribed manner. One will make progress by moving against the direction of the arrows. For example, a personality of type one should try to become like a seven, not a four. According to enneagram teaching, you must shed your "false self" and find your "true self" in the enneagram's teachings. The most popular book on how to use the enneagram, The Road Back to You: An Enneagram Journey to Self-Discovery, by Ian Morgan Cron and Suzanne Stabile (2016) is based off of Rohr's teachings. On pg. 24, we are told:

The Enneagram teaches that there are nine different personality styles in the world, one of which we naturally gravitate toward and adopt in childhood to cope and feel safe. Each type or number has a distinct way of seeing the world and an underlying motivation that powerfully influences how that type thinks, feels and behaves.

Once you take the test to identify your personality type, you will come to realize:

The true purpose of the Enneagram is to reveal to you your shadow side and offer spiritual counsel on how to open it to the transformative light of grace. (pg. 31; Emphasis mine).

Then you work to rid yourself of your "old self" and become your "True Self" and the person God wants you to be. Rohr and his heretical, occult disciples are spreading this throughout the Vatican II sect through retreats and parish "spirituality courses" or "workshops." Many Vatican II sect clergy give "homilies" on it. (See fscenter.org/content/programs-retreats/enneagram). 

This false narrative about the "benefit" of the enneagram is used to persuade others that it is rooted in Christian history. Author Christopher L. Heuertz, in his book The Sacred Enneagram: Finding Your Unique Path to Spiritual Growth (foreword by "Fr." Richard Rohr), proposes the possibility the enneagram was in use in other ancient non-Jewish and non-Christian cultures and mystical religions. Some of the “evidence” cited is from New Age sources such as Beatrice Chestnut (b. 1964), a student of New Agers Helen Palmer and Dr. David Daniels (1934-2017).  Heuertz suggests Greek philosopher Pythagoras (c. B.C. 570 - 495) is said to have used a drawing resembling the Enneagram symbol as his spiritual signature after learning of it in Heliopolis, which was the center of worship of the Ennead or the nine deities of ancient Egyptian mythology. (See The Sacred Enneagram, pg. 43).

There's one small problem with this assertion. No authentic writings of Pythagoras have survived. (See Joost-Gaugier, Christiane L., Measuring Heaven: Pythagoras and his Influence on Thought and Art in Antiquity and the Middle Ages (2006), pg. 11). If no authentic writings of Pythagoras have survived, then the mythical “spiritual signature” cannot be authoritatively “said” to have been used. Next, Heuertz makes this bold statement:

Much has been written to suggest that the early Egyptian Christian monastic ascetics, the desert mothers and fathers, were the chief architects of the Enneagram, led by the fourth-century mystic Evagrius Ponticus. Ponticus’s writings are often cited to support theories on the Christian origins of the Enneagram, specifically as it relates to his work on his list of eight vices and virtues (in one place he names nine), which closely resemble the nine Virtues and Passions of the Enneagram as we have it today. (See Ibid, pg. 45). The claim that the enneagram goes back to Evagrius of Pontus (345-399 A.D.) and the Desert Fathers is fantasy at best and a pure falsehood at worst.

The claim is based on Richard Rohr and Andreas Ebert’s misinterpretation of a single passage in the writings of Evagrius from which the two authors imagined Evagrius was trying to describe an actual diagram. In fact, it is of interest that Rohr and Ebert did not claim a Christian origin for the enneagram in the earlier edition of their book. Ebert writes in the 1992 introduction to Richard Rohr and Andreas Ebert’s, Discovering the Enneagram: An Ancient Tool for a New Spiritual Journey (1992):

The Enneagram is a mysterious model of the psyche that is not originally Christian. I believe that the Enneagram can help us to find a deeper and more authentic relationship with God—even though it was not discovered by Christians. (See pgs. xii and xv; Emphasis mine). The claim actually was taken by Rohr from Helen Palmer (d. 1967), a New Ager psychologist who taught that everyone had "innate psychic abilities." These alleged abilities allowed her to "discern the origin of the Enneagram." It was used by ancients who had "mystical knowledge" and transformed into a "Christian tool of self-help and spiritual growth" by the early Christians. 

So much for fairy tales. Now, the true origin will be explained.

The Enneagram's Occult Origin
The word enneagram comes from Greek words “ennea” for “nine” and “gramma” for “writing” or “drawing.” The Enneagram as used today is a nine-sided diagram with nine points, each of the nine points representing a personality type. Lines are drawn connecting these points with other points. One must determine his or her type and proceed from there according to the particular teachings given. Enneagrams vary in how they are taught so there is no one standard model.

It was first used by the Armenian-Greek "mystic" George Gurdjieff (d.1949). For the personality “types” added later, it came from occultist Claudio Naranjo (d. 2019) Gurdjieff believed All knowledge can be included in the enneagram and with the help of the enneagram it can be interpreted. And in this connection only what a man is able to put into the enneagram does he actually know, that is, understand. What he cannot put into the enneagram makes books and libraries entirely unnecessary. Everything can be included and read in the enneagram. (See Ouspensky, In Search of the Miraculous [1950], p. 294)

 Gurdjieff was an Eastern Schismatic who got involved with both Freemasonry and Islamic "mysticism." He then taught "esoteric Christianity." (See Ibid, pg. 102). Gurdjieff believed all the secret laws of the universe could be seen in his diagram, and he used it to play around with mathematical formulas what he called the “Law of Seven” and the “Law of Three.” He also used the Enneagram to illustrate a special musical scale for which he developed “sacred dance” movements to act out the Enneagram, which Gurdjieff dance troupes still use today. It was never used for "personality types" until later.

Next, Oscar Ichazo, a Bolivian spiritual teacher, who ran an occult school in Arica, Chile, taught the enneagram, which he called the enneagon. He added his own ideas of “ego fixations,” which are patterns that had to be transcended to realize the true inner “essence” of Self. It is not clear how Ichazo learned about the Enneagram but some of his students believed he had learned it from Gurdjieff or Gurdjieff’s followers.

Ichazo claimed to be in contact with spirits named Metatron and the Green Qutb, though he sometimes claimed these were states of consciousness. Ichazo practiced Eastern meditation, studied the blasphemous Jewish Kabbalah, and was familiar with a host of esoteric occult practices and beliefs. (See, e.g., https://oceanmoonshine9.wordpress.com/hidden-lore-of-the-nine-points-narango-ichazo-and-the-school-1/). 

Ichazo’s student, Claudio Naranjo, a Chilean psychiatrist, and spiritual seeker, took the enneagram teachings to the Esalen Institute in Big Sur, California, an edgy hotbed of avant-garde psychology, New Age teachings, and experiments with psychedelics (Esalen played a crucial role in the human potential movement and influenced the New Age). Naranjo came up with the 9 personality types of the modern enneagram.

Naranjo claimed later in a video that he and Ichazo made up the idea that the Enneagram was ancient when they knew it wasn’t. Naranjo also claimed that he originated the 9 types from his observations but “mostly” via automatic writing. The enneagram was then popularized by the aforementioned New Ager Helen Palmer. The thrust of the Enneagram in the New Age was and still is a gnostic seeking of the “True Self” or “divine Self.”

The Enneagram Gets Incorporated Into The Vatican II Sect
A validly ordained Jesuit priest, Fr. Robert Ochs, studied the enneagram under Naranjo with full knowledge and consent of his superiors in the 1960s. He then was promoted to a seminary professor, and one of his students, Richard Rohr, made it the focal point of his "spirituality." He became deeply involved with the enneagram and its occult teachings. He brought it into the Vatican II sect and remains a "priest in good standing," never being censured for his ideas and teachings. In 2019, Rohr wrote a book, The Universal Christ: How a Forgotten Reality Can Change Everything We See, Hope For, and Believe. This book will reveal the heretical and occult teachings of "Fr." Richard Rohr:

  • Rohr is a panentheist, believing  God and the world to be inter-related with the world being in God and God being in the world. He makes a distinction between Jesus and Christ. Rohr writes: “Christ . . . was clearly not just Jesus of Nazareth, but something much more immense”(pg. 3). Since for Rohr, everything in the universe is a manifestation of God, to call Jesus a manifestation of God is to merely say that Jesus is part of the universe. Hence, the title of the book: "The Universal Christ."
  • God is a subjective term that denotes a way people look at the world. “Anything that drives you out of yourself in a positive way . . . is operating as God for you” (pg. 52).
  • Revelation is not a distinct, self-disclosure of God, occurring in history. “This book . . . [seeks] to reground Christianity as a natural religion and not one simply based on a special revelation, available only to a few.” (pg. 7).
  • Christ is more a process than a Divine Person.  “The Christ Mystery is not a one-time event, but an ongoing process throughout time—as constant as the light that fills the universe," and so not “limiting the Creator’s presence to just one human manifestation, Jesus” (pgs. 14, 16). He goes so far as to dedicate the book to his deceased dog Venus "whom...without fear of heresy, I can appropriately say that Venus was also Christ for me."
  • The Crucifixion and Death of Jesus Christ did not save anyone. The sacrificial death of Christ was “not some bloody transaction ‘required’ by God’s offended justice in order to rectify the problem of human sin.”(pg. 140). Sin is a failure to put away our "false self." Original Sin does not exist. 
  • Christ did not rise from the dead but was transformed into "beams of light." “If a video camera had been placed in front of the tomb of Jesus, it wouldn’t have filmed a lone man emerging from a grave . . . [but] something like beams of light extending in all directions” (pg. 177). 
This occult heretic now peddles his enneagram everywhere. His superiors in the Vatican II sect Franciscan Order, the "bishops," and Modernist Vatican headed by Bergoglio, have not done anything against him--nor is his book condemned for heresy. 

The Five Dangers of the Enneagram
The enneagram is fraught with serious problems for anyone who gets involved with it. Since the Vatican II sect does nothing to stop it, I must sound the alarm. Do not get involved and urge others to do the same; if they are already using it, urge them to cease.

1. The enneagram has no scientific value, even as a personality test.  It has no support in scholarly or academic studies even in discovering so-called "personality types." Most enneagram tests rely on the Barnum effect, a psychological phenomenon that occurs when individuals believe that personality descriptions apply specifically to them (more so than to other people), despite the fact that the description is actually filled with information that applies to almost everyone. More recently, a variety of more advanced Enneagram tests have been developed to provide a veneer of scientific legitimacy. Their usefulness is questionable, though, since, like the Myers-Briggs test, the personality number assigned by any particular test frequently differs from other tests or changes upon retesting.

2. The enneagram’s origins are in the occult. The enneagram is not an ancient Christian tool that has been around for ages but was invented in the 1970s by Oscar Ichazo and Claudio Naranjo from automatic writing. What is automatic writing? Automatic writing is a form of spirit contact where you allow a spirit to write through you. You become, in effect, a medium. As I've written before, mediums are condemned by both the Bible and Church teaching. "Let no one be found among you who sacrifices their son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead. Anyone who does these things is detestable to the LORD; because of these same detestable practices the LORD your God will drive out those nations before you." (See Deuteronomy 18:10-12; Emphasis mine.) According to theologian Jone, "Spiritism claims to be able to communicate with the spirit world and endeavors to establish such commerce with it. Although spiritism is for the most part fraud, still the intention alone to enter into communication with spirits is gravely sinful. Therefore, it is mortally sinful to conduct a spiritistic seance or to act as a medium." (See Moral Theology, pg. 100; Emphasis mine). Imagine if you were told to use a Ouija Board to "understand yourself better" and "grow closer to God." That is as blasphemous as the use of the enneagram for "spiritual growth in God." The enneagram is inspired by the forces of Hell.

3. Heretic and Occultist "Fr." Richard Rohr popularized and "Christianized" the enneagram. To state that something which originated with the automatic writing of two occultists was really something used by early Christians, was a fable told to Rohr by a New Ager. Rohr now happily perpetuates this false narrative. Moreover, you cannot make something "Christian" which has no scientific validity, and is inimical to genuine Catholic spirituality. There can be no "Catholic Tarot Cards." Yet Rohr will continue to make the ludicrous claim that the enneagram is now "Christianized" since its alleged use by "Desert Fathers." 

Rohr also claims we are not all born sinners, as he denies Original Sin in particular and redefines personal sin. We need to put off our “false selves” and discover the divine ("True Self") within ourselves. Rohr promotes the enneagram as a great tool to do that. He has gained a huge following, especially among millennials, but his teachings are heretical and must be rejected. 

4. The enneagram excuses sin. Each "personality type" from 1 to 9, has a "weakness" that is inherent and (allegedly) very hard to get rid of to be your "True Self." Therefore, you have an excuse as to why you steal, watch porn, take God's Name in vain, etc., because you are a particular personality type, and it's hard to change. It's not your fault you are like this, and you are a guiltless "work in progress." There is nothing really wrong as long as you want to find your "True Self."

5. The enneagram emphasizes self over Christ. You need to discover and work on your personality type to achieve advancement in "spiritual growth." Do not work on eliminating sin and gaining virtue via Christ and His One True Church. The enneagram's types supplant the Sacraments, The Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, the Rosary, etc. as the pathway to salvation. 

Conclusion
The enneagram is an occult tool promoted by a heretical Vatican II sect "priest" to pull people away from the true path to sanctification and salvation. Your "personality type" and achieving your "True Self" by means of the enneagram's teachings become supreme. The Vatican II sect allows it to be promoted (there was a "warning" against it by the Vatican II sect "bishops" in the United States about 20 years ago, but no formal condemnation). Actions speak louder than words. In a post by journalist Austen Ivereigh in 2016, he stated:

On the Enneagram, that personality-type identifier first created by the desert fathers which received its modern form from the Jesuits, Francis is an Eight — as Father Richard Rohr OFM, the leading Catholic authority on the Enneagram, has confirmed to me in an email.

(Pope Francis, incidentally, knows the Enneagram well and is not against it. But he is wary of the way it can be misused and lead to excessive introspection if not deployed within a solid spiritual framework.)
(See cruxnow.com/analysis/2016/12/francis-80-redeemed-leader-looks-like; Emphasis mine). 

Replace "enneagram" with "Ouija Board" or "seances" in that statement by Ivereigh and see if it makes any sense. Richard Rohr, despite publishing multiple heresies against the most basic dogmas of the Church, has not been censured in any way and functions as a Vatican II sect "priest." If anyone reading all this cannot see that Bergoglio cannot be pope and the Vatican II sect cannot be the Roman Catholic Church, they should add a tenth "personality type" for such people---The Culpably Ignorant. 



33 comments:

  1. I remember that at the church I went to when I was in the V2 sect, there were books at the entrance, which the faithful could bring in so that others could read them. Some of these books might sound like New Age, but I didn't read them. I reported it to the "parish priest" but I don't know if he did anything to remove them. Now that I've left the sect, I don't know if there are still any suspicious books at this place, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were. The V2 "priests" do not give advice to their parishioners at the time of the legislative elections, letting them vote for whoever they want, even for pro-abortion or pro-sodomite candidates, so it would be surprising if they guided them about what they may or may not read. And the infamous Montini abolished the Index, so each member of the V2 sect is free to read whatever they want. We are in the last days and people have abandoned the true Faith and turned to fables, as Saint Paul said (2 Tim 4:3-4).

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    1. Simon,
      Sadly, there is no moral guidance in the Vatican II sect, as you point out. The most immoral movies, books, entertainment, etc. receive no condemnation. As a great saint once said, "Not to oppose error is to approve it."

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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    2. The V2 sect lets its members follow their conscience. We know what happens when the conscience is not framed by good moral teaching. The Web is full of porn websites and those who watch it are often young people unaware of the danger. Unfortunately, we live in a society that condones this and glorifies free sex. And there is no more moral authority to condemn this crap and their authors. I have no recollection of hearing a Novus Ordo "priest" in my parish do this. It must be said that the Novus Ordo clerics are mired in sex scandals and some are caught with not really holy images...

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    3. Simon,
      The part they leave out is that people must follow their PROPERLY FORMED CONSCIENCE. One that is informed as to Catholic teaching and principles, not as Satanist Aleister Crowley said, "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law."

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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    4. Simon,
      "The Web is full of porn websites and those who watch it are often young people unaware of the danger."
      I was talking to a Nurse recently who told me about a 9 year old girl going to a Psychiatrist because she is addicted to porn. This porn on the web is destroying the young people in ways we will never know. It is an absolute crime that there is so much easy access to it. It is an abomination.
      JoAnn

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    5. I confess that I fell into this demonic trap myself, not at a young age but later, when I discovered the Web. I'm looking for explanations in my experience but I can't find a particular reason... A medical consultation might be the right thing to do. Pray for me !

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    6. Simon,
      I will certainly pray for you!
      Don't be too hard on yourself. The important thing is that you stopped watching it.
      JoAnn

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    7. To hear that story is heartbreaking.
      -Andrew

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    8. For those interested, I made an article on children and the internet. Hope is good! http://quisutdeusinenglish.blogspot.com/2022/01/millstones-on-road-part-xvi-depths-of.html

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    9. Simon;
      Perhaps it may help to visit this page. You can find books on spirituality, prayers and devotion.
      https://catholicarchivist.blogspot.com/p/site-map-2-full-book-library.html

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    10. Simon,
      Always praying for you.

      The Catholic Archive,
      Thank you for pointing those books out!

      Poni,
      Well done post!

      God Bless you all,

      ---Introibo

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  2. The Vatican II sect will accept any New Age philosophy that comes down the road. Anything concerning Traditional Catholicism the NO readily rejects. I can imagine "Pope" Francis accepting and practicing the Enneagram right next to his practicing and propagation of Reiki and other New Age occult nonsense. I have heard that the Enneagram is used in a lot of NO retreats as a ways and means to seek higher spirituality. This Enneagram's higher spirituality will take one to the depths of the pits hell. Anything and everything New Age is from hell. The devil and his demons are working overtime to lure and entice as many as they can to hell. People in the NO need to wake up, do research and try the spirits and not just swallow everything that has the NO and "Pope" Francis's seal of approval.
    Thank you Introibo for this informative article!
    JoAnn

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    1. Joann,
      Well stated! The Vatican II sect is immersed in occult/New Age practices and beliefs. It's sad to see former Catholic retreat centers getting rid of The Spiritual Exercises of St. Ignatius Loyola and replacing it with occult garbage.

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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    2. Introibo,
      The NO retreat centers are also full of the abdominal 12 Step philosophy. Anything and everything goes in the NO except real Catholicism. One of the last NO churches I was in years ago the Priest spent the whole time spouting the benefits of the 12 Steps. I couldn't believe my ears. That was the end of ever going to an NO which I never did much anyhow as I knew somehow it was not the Church I was raised in. I detest the 12 Steps and know first hand the damage done by them. These so called "Priests" and "Pope" Francis want to dabble in everything and anything that is not true Catholicism. The NO stands for nothing Catholic as it is involved with every religion and new age philosophy that comes down the road.
      JoAnn

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    3. Joann,
      Yes, the Masonic "Twelve Step Program" is ubiquitous in V2 sect retreats and also exists in many parishes.

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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  3. Pertaining to writings,the Novus Ordo also removed "Pledge to the Legion of Decency" which was recited every Dec.8 Holy Day by clerics and faithful.

    The Legion of Decency is defunct but the Pledge itself contains personal commitment to avoid vulgar violent and evil TV Cinema Books etc...

    God bless ~Andrew

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    1. Andrew,
      Yes, the Legion of Decency has no place amid the indecent and apostate Vatican II sect.

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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  4. The 9 characters of the alchemical movie "9" are allegedly based on the enneagramm.

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    1. Poni,
      Interesting! Thank you for the information!

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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  5. How much of modern psychology/psychiatry is similarly grounded in bunk ?

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    1. cairsahr__stjoseph,
      More than half of practitioners in psychology/psychiatry buy into anti-Christian theories; not to mention the occult ideas of Carl Jung.

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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  6. Maybe this explains why Jorge of Babylon goes to a witch instead of a doctor: https://novusordowatch.org/2018/01/francis-doctor-witch/

    Lee

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    1. Lee,
      Yes! See also my post:
      http://introiboadaltaredei2.blogspot.com/2017/12/francis-and-dark-side-of-force.html

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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  7. Excellent, as always. Thank you, Intro.

    Many years ago a relative of mine learned Enneagrams in a NO parish "enrichment" session and did them on some people. I knew it was pure baloney then. But your explanation added a deeper level of understanding how it came about and why. It reminds me of the creepy maze-walking and navel-gazing style exercises they started teaching at the Catholic retreat houses. And the focus on social issues in our Catholic school religion classes. All these things and more seemed to catch on around the same time. Not really a coincidence!
    Fast forwarding to now; some of my family members, going through many difficulties and frustrations because of this "omicr0n/c0vid" thing, have said they are going back to yoga as a "stress reducer". I totally understand the need for support and peace of mind these days, especially now that good Catholic medical and psychological therapy is near-impossible to find.
    But my advice has not been asked, and because they are fairly certain I would disapprove I don't believe it would be welcome anyway. So I have put the issue in the hands of Our Lady, and I pray too for the intentions of humanity having to live in a world so full of self-centeredness and deceit.
    Keep me in your prayers, please? Thank you.

    God Bless

    -Jannie


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    1. Jannie,
      I went on a retreat back in 1993 with a friend who was in spiritual conflict. I agreed to go on the condition we would talk and pray in private, and not attend the Novus Bogus "mass," etc. In this way we could pray the Rosary and I could try to convert him.

      The Jesuit-run retreat house had the "Centering prayer" maze with people walking in circles (literally) mumbling to themselves. My friend asked (in all sincerity) if they were mental patients. Inside, the main prayer room had a statute of Buddha! Not only did my friend think the V2 sect was insane, he didn't want to hear about sedevacantism or anything calling itself "Catholic." He became a Protestant and stopped talking to me after his conversion. You see the nonsense for what it is, but many do not.

      I always keep my readers in my prayers and remember them at the Holy Sacrifice--and most especially my faithful readers/commenters like you, Jannie. Of that you may always rest assured!

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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  8. Introibo,
    I have a question on another subject.
    How would you respond to the charge that the primary natural purpose of marriage is not to bear and raise offspring, because the Church allows the marriage of infertile and elderly people who absolutely cannot bear offspring?

    God Bless,
    Paweł

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    1. Pawel,
      "Primary" and "indispensable" are not synonymous. The primary purpose of marriage is the procreation and education of children. The secondary and subordinate purpose is the mutual love and support of the spouses. AS LONG AS THE MARRIAGE REMAINS OPEN TO PROCREATION, the purpose is not frustrated. That is why the Church allows periodic abstinence, as the marital act is regulated by nature. Likewise, infertility (not artificially procured) and old age are also the result of, e.g., birth defect in the former, and the progression of time in the latter.

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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  9. I am asking for prayers as I injured my right knee badly and have been in bed a week hardly able to walk. Was given a cortisone shot yesterday by Orthopedic Dr. Dr is talking surgery. Thanks.
    JoAnn

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    1. Joann,
      I will be praying for you and ask my readers to do the same.

      Get better soon!

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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    2. Hope the shot works and you don’t need surgery, maybe physical therapy later would help?. The shot will reduce the inflammation, so try and eat a diet rich in anti inflammatory foods to help this along, you can look this up. Many prayers that you are able to carry this cross! Some good will come out of it undoubtedly! Remember Our Lord sends His crosses to His friends! AmDg. Kathryn

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  10. JoAnn,

    Oh no, I'm sorry to hear that! I have you in my prayers.

    God Bless,
    Dapouf

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    1. This comment is just a test. I don't know if I've just been out of it lately and clicking the wrong button, but when I reply to comments it's not posting my reply under the comment I was replying to.

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  11. Introbio,
    Thank you so much for your reply.

    JoAnn,
    I promise to pray for your intention.

    God Bless,
    Paweł

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