This is the next installment of my series to be published the first Monday of each month.
There are members of false sects, like Jehovah's Witnesses, that come knocking door-to-door hoping to convert you. Instead of ignoring them, it is we who should try and convert them. In 1 Peter 3:16, our first Pope writes, "But in thy hearts revere Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks thee to give the reason for the hope that thou hast. But do this with gentleness and respect,..." Before the Great Apostasy, the Church would send missionaries to the ends of the Earth to make as many converts as possible.
Those in false religions don't always come (literally) knocking at your door. It may be a Hindu at work who wants you to try yoga. It could be a "Christian Scientist" who lives next door and invites you to come to their reading room. Each month, I will present a false sect. Unlike the Vatican II sect, I do not see them as a "means of salvation" or possessing "elements of truth" that lead to salvation. That is heresy. They lead to damnation, and the adherents of the various sects must be converted so they may be saved.
In each month's post, I will present one false sect and give an overview of:
- The sect's history
- Their theology
- Tips on how to share the True Faith with them
Chrislam
As the name, and the symbol shown above indicate, Chrislam is a syncretic sect that attempts to merge Islam and Christianity into a single belief system. It was founded in Nigeria in the late 1970s and has been growing ever since. It has now made inroads here in the United States. Nigeria was a logical starting point given that Moslems and Christians divide the country. Even now 49.3% of the country is Christian and 48.8% is Moslem or "Muslim" (See globalreligiousfutures.org/countries/nigeria#/?affiliations_religion_id=0&affiliations_year=2010®ion_name=All%20Countries&restrictions_year=2016).
In June 2016, the "Presbyterian Church USA" offered up prayers to the false moon god "Allah" at their 222 General Assembly. "Allah bless us and bless our families and bless our Lord. Lead us on the straight path - the path of all the prophets: Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Moses, Jesus, and Muhammad. Peace be upon them all, Amen," said Wajidi Said of the Portland Muslim Community, after completing a chant in Arabic.
(See christianitydaily.com/articles/8228/20160623/pcusa-garners-criticism-prayers-allah-offered-during-general-assembly.htm).
In his 2015 visit to St. Patrick's Cathedral, here in New York City, "Pope" Francis said:
I would like to express two sentiments for my Muslim brothers and sisters: Firstly, my greetings as they celebrate the feast of sacrifice. I would have wished my greeting to be warmer. My sentiments of closeness, my sentiments of closeness in the face of tragedy. The tragedy that they suffered in Mecca.
In this moment, I give assurances of my prayers. I unite myself with you all. A prayer to almighty god [sic; in original], all merciful. (See https://abcnews.go.com/US/read-pope-francis-yorks-st-patricks-cathedral/story?id=34023376).
In addition to calling Moslems "my brothers and sisters" and lending credibility to their feast (Eid al-Adha, a feast celebrating the fictitious claim that Abraham followed Allah's command to sacrifice his son Ishmael), the last phrase of Bergoglio's comments are consistent with Islamic beliefs, as they recognize Allah as "the all-merciful one" most specifically.
Granted Bergoglio and the Presbyterians did not claim to be endorsing Chrislam, but they have either adopted or support their basic tenets and are consequently helping them grow. The history and beliefs of Chrislam will be examined next.
The Blasphemous Beginnings and Evil Teaching
In this section, I wish to cite M. Janson “Unity through Diversity: A Case Study of Chrislam in Lagos.” Africa: Journal of the International African Institute (2016, Vol. 86 No. 4): 646–72, and Chrislam: How Missionaries are Promoting An Islamized Gospel ed. by Lingel and Morton, 2012 edition as my principal sources for the history and belief of Chrislam.---Introibo
Tela Tella (b.1939), the founder of Nigeria’s Chrislam movement, Ifeoluwa, proclaimed that “Moses is Jesus and Jesus is Muhammad. Peace be upon all of them; we love them all.” Tella has refused to talk about his religious background. The name Ifeoluwa, means “The Will of God” or “The Love of God,” and was allegedly revealed to him by Divine revelation. After receiving the revelation, he meditated for twenty-one days at the spot where he later built the mission. In addition to Ifeoluwa, Tella refers to his mission as “Chrislam,” a term that he coined to create awareness of unity among Christians and Moslems. Similar to Islam, Chrislam is based on five pillars, with love being the first (the others are: mercy, joy, good deeds, and truth). Tella sees himself as God’s love incarnated in a human being, who has been ordained to “enlighten the world."
According to Tella, God communicates with him via Divine revelations, which He conveys through "speaking in tongues" (aka "glossolalia"). Until the "world is ready" to receive these revelations, Tella lives a secluded life with his two wives (called "the Lady Apostles") and their children on the Mountain of Power, which is a whitewashed compound in Agege, a densely-populated suburb in Lagos, Nigeria. His basic belief is one that is appealing to many:
Christians and Moslems worship the same God. Chrislamists worship on Saturday so as not to offend Moslems who keep the Sabbath on Friday, and Christians who keep it on Sundays. Tella remarked, "I don't like dogmatic teachings." He also opined, "People come here to fight their enemy. Their enemy is illness, barrenness, death, poverty, disillusion, frustration, failure, sorrow. We teach them how to pray to God, Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and Mohammed in order to conquer their enemy. Prayer is the key to success."
Since religion is for Chrislamists not primarily about belief but about practical concerns, the mixing of diverse, and often contradictory, religious elements is permitted as long as it helps them living life "more profitably." Chrislam promises a better life on earth and it is accomplished by intertwining the beliefs of Islam, Christianity, and even other beliefs if it helps you to "feel good."
Chrislam calls they place of worship neither church or mosque, but temple. According to Tella, the "holy scriptures" (the Bible and Koran) are incomplete. To complement the Bible and Koran, Tella is working on his own Holy Book, the Ifeoluwa Book. Tella’s sermons contain moral lessons that are interpreted by his followers as “religious pep talk,” instructing them in how to combat their feelings of despair and how to become successful in life. Services consist in circling a copy of the Bible and Koran seven times, then singing chants and praying to the God of "Christians and Moslems." Similar to Pentecostal services, the testimonies recount the “miracles” experienced by Chrislam's followers when they accepted God’s love in their lives, in the form of healing, finding a spouse, the birth of a baby, finding employment, or a windfall. After the service, the congregants assemble to receive manna, what they call "blest food."
Membership in Chrislam requires so-called spiritual training. In order to elicit a higher spiritualty and moral lifestyle that will promote social harmony, members must observe eighty rules and regulations concerning codes of moral behavior (such as “any member who wears Ifeoluwa’s clothes should not rebuke or talk against any religion”), dress codes (female followers are obliged to cover their heads and all followers must dress modestly), and food taboos derived from the Old Testament and the Koran (members must avoid drinking alcohol, abstain from eating fish without scales, such as catfish, and pork; only halal meat is allowed). Like in Islam, several rules and regulations emphasize the importance of “purity” (women must stay away from the temple during their menstruation plus one extra day, after which they must sanctify themselves; members must take a bath after sexual intercourse and stay away from the temple for at least six hours). Members must pray twice each day. Although Tella is the leader of the sect, there are those who form their own temples in other countries.
The Vatican II Sect Leads The Way---To Hell
In the heretical Vatican II document Nostra Aetate, it teaches, "The Church (sic) regards with esteem also the Moslems. They adore the one God, living and subsisting in Himself; merciful and all- powerful, the Creator of heaven and earth, who has spoken to men; they take pains to submit wholeheartedly to even His inscrutable decrees, just as Abraham, with whom the faith of Islam takes pleasure in linking itself, submitted to God." (para. #3; Emphasis mine).
Chrislam prospered only because of the false and heretical idea that Catholics and Moslems worship the same God. The false popes have further promoted this lie:
"Pope" "Saint" John Paul II kissed the Koran and prayed, "May Saint John the Baptist protect Islam." "Pope" Benedict XVI called for Christians "to open their arms and hearts" to Moslem immigrants and "to dialogue" with them on religious issues. Ratzinger told participants that the Catholic (sic) Church is "increasingly aware" that "inter-religious dialogue is a part of its commitment to the service of humanity in the modern world." "Pope" Francis prayed towards Mecca and said, "Islam is a religion of peace, one which is compatible with respect for human rights and peaceful coexistence."
Most disturbingly, two years ago on February 4, 2019, Bergoglio and Sheik Ahmed el-Tayeb, grand imam of al-Azhar, a leading authority for many Moslems, signed a document on "human fraternity" and improving "Christian-Muslim" relations.
"The pluralism and the diversity of religions, color, sex, race and language are willed by God in his wisdom, through which he created human beings," the document said. The Modernist Vatican immediately tried to spin this heretical statement by saying that God's permissive Will tolerates a diversity of religions. It is not an act of God's positive Will by which He actually desires something to be done. However, if you look at the text, it tells a different story. The other categories Bergoglio enumerates; color, sex, race, and language are positively willed by God. Why would he begin the list with something only permissively willed by God, the only exception to the other attributes?
Therefore, to be successful in proselyting the followers of Chrislam, you must prove that Allah and the God of the Christians is not the same.
God: Trinity or Tawhid?
Most Chrislamists in the United States and Europe were liberal Protestants or very Modernist members of the Vatican II sect who are caught up in "ecumenical dialogue" to the point they are Indifferentists (i.e., one religion is as good as another).
The best way to attack Chrislam is by showing that if you follow the God of Christianity, then you can't follow Allah, a false moon god. The evil of Islam and Allah should also be stressed. Finally, what has Tela Tella done to prove his "Divine revelations," and his assertion that the Bible is somehow "deficient"?
1. The monotheistic God is Trinity not Tawhid
Moslems insist that Allah has no “partners.” To ascribe partners to Allah – for example, to say that Jesus is the Son of God, or that God exists as a Trinity – is to commit the unpardonable sin of shirk, which damns a soul to hell. Therefore, Allah is a "monolithic One" or tawhid. The Trinity is denied. Catholics believe that God exists as Three Divine Persons, but there is only One God. The Moslem Allah is of pagan origin and admits of no Trinity.
The universal symbol for Islam is a crescent moon. This symbol appears on mosques worldwide and on the flags of many Moslem nations such as Tunisia, Algeria, Mauritania, Malaysia, Pakistan and Turkey. The moon god, symbolized with the crescent can be easily traced as far as 2500 years before Mohammed. It was a powerful and common symbol in pagan worship that has endured for nearly four millennia. Though Moslem apologists try desperately to skirt this issue, claiming that Christians simply do not understand and are looking for something with which to bash Islam, the fact remains that they cannot wiggle out of the crescent, its origins and inherent paganism.
If God is not Triune, then Christ could not be the Divine Second Person of the Most Blessed Trinity Incarnate. Show the Chrislamist the stark contradiction.
2. The Bible and Koran are Incompatible and Contradictory
Common sense tells us that if Allah is also the God of Christianity, then the Koran, the allegedly inspired text of Islam, would perfectly harmonize with the Bible. Instead, it shows Allah to be many things--most of them evil.
Allah is a deceiver and a terrorist.
Sura (Koran chapter) 4:142: “The hypocrites seek to deceive God, but it is He who deceives them.”
Sura 8:30: “They schemed—but God also schemed. God is most profound in His schemings.”
Sura 8:12: “God revealed His will to the angels, saying…I shall cast terror into the hearts of the infidels. Strike off their heads, strike off the very tips of their fingers”
The Koran mocks the Trinity.
Sura 5:73: “They do blaspheme who say God is one of three…for there is no Allah except one Allah.”
Sura 5:116: “And behold! God will say: O Jesus the son of Mary didst say unto men, ‘worship me and my mother as gods’ in derogation of Allah?"
The Koran tells of a Jesus different from the Bible.
The Koran teaches that Jesus was indeed born of a virgin. He is mentioned 97 times in its pages. However, the Jesus of the Koran is viewed as but a prophet on the level of Moses or Mohammed. Note as well that the Jesus of the Koran did not die on the Cross but was replaced by another individual.
Sura 4:157: “That they said in boast ‘we killed Christ Isa, the son of Mary’…but they killed him not, nor crucified him.”
The Jesus of the Koran is an imposter and not God incarnate. Again, how can a Christian who knows the truth about the origin of Allah and the "Moslem Jesus" ever consider aligning with such teachings? Just as compelling from the Moslem viewpoint is the question, how can Moslems entertain the idea of dialog and common ground with Christians for to do so is diametrically opposed to their own religious writings?
Sura 5:51: “Believers, take neither the Jews nor the Christians for your friends. They are friends with one another.”
Sura 109:1-6: “Say: 'Unbelievers, I do not worship what you worship, nor do you worship what I worship. I shall never worship what you worship, nor will you ever worship what I worship. You have your own religion and I have mine.'"
One can only wonder how John Paul the Great Apostate could say the following in his August 19,1985 Address to Moslems in Morocco:
I believe that we, Christians and Muslims, must recognize with joy the religious values that we have in common, and give thanks to God for them. Both of us believe in one God, the only God, who is all justice and all mercy; we believe in the importance of prayer, of fasting, of almsgiving, of repentance and of pardon; we believe that God will be a merciful judge to us all at the end of time, and we hope that after the resurrection He will be satisfied with us and we know that we will be satisfied with him. (Emphasis mine).
Compare: [Moslems] are the enemy of the Catholic Faith. --Pope St. Pius V, Apostolic Constitution Salvatoris Domini, March 5, 1571.
Therefore, they must instruct them [Moslems] in the true worship of God which is unique to the Catholic religion.---Pope Gregory XVI, Summo Iugiter Studio, para. #6 (1832).
Conclusion
It should be clear that Moslems and Catholics do not "believe in one God, the only God" because Allah and the Triune God of Christianity are not the same. It makes you wonder what "god" the Vatican II sect worships. Like Chrislam, they try to unite mutually exclusive doctrines. They preach Universalism, yet welcome Feeneyites; anything goes except the Truth in the sect of Bergoglio.
Islam is also violent in the extreme. While the current occupant of the White House is letting Moslems come into the country, it is good to remember what the Koran of the moon god Allah teaches:
Surah 3:151: “We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve (all non-Moslems) ...”
Surah 2:191: “And kill them (non-Moslems) wherever you find them ... kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers (non-Muslims).”
Surah 9:5: “Then kill the disbelievers (non-Moslems) wherever you find them, capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush ...”
Compare this with the One True Triune God of Catholicism. Christ predicted there would be those who would murder in God's name: They will put you out of the synagogues: yea, the hour cometh, that whosoever killeth you, will think that he doth a service to God. (St. John 16:2). Our Lord then told why they would do such horrible acts: They will do such things because they have not known the Father or Me. (St. John 16:3)
Another great article ! Chrislam is fitting very well with the fake Vatican 2 church. Perhaps the next false pope of the sect will be a "Chrislamist" ! The current one and the previous ones were a bit it, the next will be just as similar if not more.
ReplyDeleteSimon,
DeleteSadly, it appears things will only get worse. The way the Mohammedans reproduce, and aided by unrestricted immigration from the Socialist Democrats, it won't be long before the Grand Imam of the Islamic Republic of the United States is issuing fatwas from the erstwhile District of Columbia.
God Bless,
---Introibo
In the Catechism of St. Pius X says:
ReplyDelete"12 Q. Who are infidels?
A. Infidels are those who have not been baptized and do not believe in Jesus Christ, because they either believe in and worship false gods as idolaters do, OR THOUGH ADMITTING ONE TRUE GOD, they do not believe in the Messiah, neither as already come in the Person of Jesus Christ, nor as to come; for instance, Mohammedans and the like. "
(https://sensusfidelium.us/bible-catechesis/catechism-of-saint-pius-x/the-ninth-article-of-the-creed/).
How are words written in capital letters to be understood? Is it about knowing one God with your mind?
@anon6:08
DeleteIt means they are not polytheistic. As St. Paul writes under Divine Inspiration, "For if some one comes and preaches another Jesus than the one we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or if you accept a different gospel from the one you accepted, you submit to it readily enough” (2 Corinthians 11:4). The “other Jesus” that was being preached among the Corinthians was not a different person of the same name, but a view of Jesus Christ that was so radically different from St. Paul’s that he termed it “another Jesus” altogether.
In the same way, the Koran and Islamic tradition present a picture of God so radically different from that of the Bible and Catholic tradition that it is impossible to maintain the proposition that they are the same Being.
Hence, Mohammedans and Jews are infidels.
God Bless,
---Introibo
I was wondering if you were just a neo-con posing as a traditional Catholic since an article of faith of those people is attacking Islam as vigorously verbally as possible which I do not necessarily disagree with given the scourge Islam has been to the world and to the Catholic Church East and West. Of course, the neo-cons major article of faith is giving Judaism and Jews a free pass and denouncing any criticism of them.
DeleteThe Poor in Spirit,
DeleteI do not recognize "neo-con" or "traditional" as valid appellations. You are Catholic or non-Catholic. I use the term Traditionalist Catholic to distinguish myself from the Counterfeit Vatican II sect that usurps the title of the Roman Catholic Church to itself. It also makes people ask, "What's a Traditionalist?" This gives me an opening to proselytize. If I said I'm a Catholic instead of a Traditionalist, they would assume I follow Bergoglio's false sect.
That having been said, Judaism is a false religion that leads to Hell. Both Moslems and Jews are infidels. Unconverted Jews are guilty of Deicide. No one gets a "pass" from needing to be within the One True Church and dying in the state of sanctifying grace to be saved. The Jewish religion is evil, as are all religions but the True Religion.
---Introibo
The )ews fought alongside the Muslims against Mozarabic + Roman Rite Catholics in Spain during the Reconquista.
Delete-Andrew
Introibo you said, "It makes you wonder what "god" the Vatican II sect worships." The Vatican II sect worships man as god. Even though Chrislam's founder Tella does not like dogmatic teachings, his religion imitates the Vatican II sect's dogma of "feeling good" and not "offending anyone" (AKA ecumenism). It's evident in their practices such as worshiping on Saturday and not Friday or Sunday and the intertwining of beliefs for the sake of coexistence. That is their fake "truth."
ReplyDeleteI find it comical that Francis prayed towards Mecca and said, "Islam is a religion of peace, one which is compatible with respect for human rights and peaceful coexistence"
when their religion teaches: Surah 3:151: “We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve (all non-Moslems) ...”
Surah 2:191: “And kill them (non-Moslems) wherever you find them ... kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers (non-Muslims).”
Surah 9:5: “Then kill the disbelievers (non-Moslems) wherever you find them, capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush ...”
Such a religion of PEACE. Great article as always.
Lee
Lee,
DeleteThank you my friend! The Vatican II sect does indeed worship man as "god."
God Bless,
---Introibo
It takes effort to be considered heretical by *two* different religions, but Ifeoluwa somehow managed to pull it off.
ReplyDeleteTela Tella, based on their words, strikes me as a sort of Islamic version of American's "Christian" televangelists, i.e. Joel Osteen, Rick Warren, etc.
Sincerely,
A Simple Man
Simple Man,
DeleteYou're right; the more I think about it Tella has a lot in common with the like of Osteen and Warren!
God Bless,
---Introibo
Ah, yes...there are almost too many of these Cadillac Christian shills to be counted, anymore! Throw the very rich and extremely influential Franklin Graham and Kenneth Copeland in the mix, too. I'm sure if their brand of "Evangelical" religion didn't translate into big bucks they would not care about Jesus at all.
DeleteI will admit I have read protestant "Pastor" Chuck Baldwin's blog for his political essays, though; he has interesting points to make about the state of things today, and nothing good to say about the Evangelicals. If someone like him would accept the Catholic Faith and preach it what a coup on behalf of the truth that would be. But like most Protestants, he equates Catholicism with Francis. Ugh! What a toll the ConciLIAR Church has taken on souls.
Jannie
Jannie,
DeleteMaybe Chuck Baldwin will convert--we can always pray for nothing is impossible with God!
---Introibo
The Vatican II adherents ooze tolerance and inclusiveness as long as you agree to their indifferentism, or at least keep the Truth to yourself (you might even get an indult mass if you let them spread their heresies at peace!). The moment you dare to openly embrace the integral Catholic Faith, they start to show their true colors - no tolerance for tolerance-deniers!
ReplyDeleteThank you for a highly informative post, Introibo!
God Bless You All,
Joanna S.
Joanna,
DeleteVery true!
God Bless,
---Introibo
Good article thank you for your efforts.
ReplyDeleteGod bless -Andrew
Andrew,
DeleteThank you my friend!
---Introibo
Hear the words of St. Paul; "But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach a gospel to you besides that which we have preached to you, let him be anathema. As we said before, so now I say again: If any one preach to you a gospel, besides that which you have received, let him be anathema."
DeleteGneaus,
DeleteIf only everyone heeded those words!
God Bless,
---Introibo
Good article. I never heard of Chrislam, and this was informative. What a crock, and what a shame people fall for these things!
ReplyDeleteLately it looks like a huge proliferation of people claiming belief in Jesus Christ in some form outside the True Religion or even "mainline Christianity", with more and more individuals tailor-fashioning their own personal belief systems while declaring they are Christ-centered.
Bloggers and social media account holders are sprouting up all over the place, asking their followers to "pray in Jesus' name" for an end to our current difficulties. (I notice that most of these "Christ-centered" folks never refer to Our Lord by any Name or title other than 'Jesus').
Maybe that they think and speak about Jesus as the Son of God is something at least. But it's still not enough, and they are still deceived because Christ, Who knew the difficulties we would have, especially in the last days, did warn us that not everyone who says Lord, Lord will enter into the Kingdom.
That's the sad part.
Jannie
Jannie,
DeleteYou speak the truth. I know some people claiming to be Christian and pray in "the Name of Jesus" yet support abortion and sodomite "rights." A shining example that not everyone who says "Lord, Lord" shall enter the Kingdom.
God Bless,
---Introibo
Mixtures such as Chrislam is where Masonic ecumenism via the Novus Ordo have taken us. Muslims are not Christian Brothers and Sisters as Francis states. Muslims are a depraved people and religion. After having traveled extensively in the Middle East during the 1980's, I can state from experience that these people are evil and the devil's agents.
ReplyDeleteJoAnn
Introibo,
DeleteCoincidentally after 9/11 it became politically incorrect to call a terrorist a terrorist. Also, we are to welcome them into the Country with open arms even though they call us infidels and want our destruction. None of it makes any sense. Also, "Saint" John Paul by kissing the Koran proves he was not a real Pope or Saint.
JoAnn
Sectetly,behind closed doors,a lot of muslims are into immoral sexual activity including swapping + "open "marriage."
DeleteDon't let their traditional clothing fool you.
I'm not saying all but like JoAnn I've been around them enough to know.
Basically,they tell us are religion,traditional Catholicism,is punishable by death in their Nations and we also must do what they say while being guests in their country.
DeleteWhen they move here,we must allow them to practice their religion practices and show them respect in our Nation.
Im sick of this double standard.
-Andrew
Just wanted to share an experience I had while in the Middle East. Hope it is ok.
DeleteWhen I was in the Middle East and was site seeing, I was grabbed by an Arab man who wouldn't let go of me. I was screaming and the man was laughing like crazy at me and he was with a group of men. Fortunately, someone from my tour bus saw and heard me screaming and rescued me. I was so traumatized that I cried all day and night. I learned a good lesson to never walk alone but with other people. That is just one of the terrible experiences I had at the hands of the Arabs while in the Middle East.
JoAnn
JoAnn, i am so goad you was saved from that animal :)
DeleteJoann,
DeleteI agree with anon2:11. There's a reason King St. Louis IX wanted Moslems extirpated.
---Introibo
JoAnn,
DeleteI'm glad you didn't get hurt and were rescued, but why would you want to go visit the Middle East or have anything to do with being over there, even if it was many years ago?
Mike J.
Mike J.,
DeleteI went on a month long tour of the Holy Land in 1982. At the time, I had no knowledge or ever had any contact with Muslims or Islam. I got a very quick education to say the least! I visited Israel, Jordan, Turkey, Egypt, and Rome. I have vowed never to leave the U.S. again as my experiences in the Middle East were a nightmare.
JoAnn
If the correct attitude of a Catholic monarch is to want to have the Moslems extirpated, as St. Louis IX did, is it prohibited for Catholic countries to ally with Moslem countries, like what Austria-Hungary did with the Ottoman Empire during WW1, Introibo?
Delete@anon8:43
DeleteIn my opinion, such a move could be justified by the principles of Catholic morality if the failure to make such an alliance would result in a worse evil, e.g., the enslavement of Catholics and the diminishing of the Catholic Faith.
God Bless,
---Introibo
@Anon 8:43AM
DeleteThe Axis powers lost WW1.
Could this be our Blessed Lord's way of answering your question?
The older I become,the more WW1 seems like Ground Zero for the last days.
WW1 was a new unfamiliar Hell on Earth the planet hadn't experienced up to that point.
Same could be said of American War between the States regarding rate of casualties,and outright
cruelty.
-Andrew
Introibo, thank you for your answer. Now that I think about it, Catholics won the civil war against the Spanish republic, avenged the 7000 clerics and religious killed, saved Spain from communism, and re-establish Catholicism largely by the help of Moroccan troops, despite Spain's glorious history of wars with the Moslems.
DeleteAndrew, if they didn't ally, they'd just lose as well. I agree with you anyway. What followed after WW1 was a liberal age, Germany, Austria, Hungary and a lot more were turned to liberal republics by the insistence of the victors. The humiliation and lack of monarchy in Germany led to the rise of nazism and WW2 and its horrors as well. It was certainly the end of a period, Pope St. Pius X died at the very same day when the German forces marched into Brussels.
How is it acceptable to recognize a Protestant but not a Moslem State Introibo? Is it morally acceptable for any country today to declare war on any Muslim country on the grounds they are Muslim?
DeleteThanks. A follow up, I'm under the impression that unless
Deletea Catholic State's very existence is in jeopardy, it is not allowed to have normal relations? (Trade, etc., just like what countries normally do today) I remember Pope Pius IX had a warm attitude and friendly relations with the Ottoman Empire and emperor? Though I understand it was to keep the Catholics there safe.
I'm interested in learning international relations but don't know the Catholic teachings.
@anon6:44
DeleteAccording to theologian Cahill, the general principle is that an evil may be tolerated by the Catholic State to prevent a greater evil. (See "The Framework of a Christian State" [1929], pg. 468). Can normal relations be had with a non-Catholic State? Unless such relations would (a) be a danger to the Catholic Faith or (b) without hope of converting others in that non-Catholic State by such relations, and it would only result in propagating falsehood, then normal relations may be maintained as a general principle.
---Introibo
@anon6:44
DeleteThat principle also explains the actions of Pope Pius IX.
---Introibo
Thank you.
DeleteLeon Degrelle stated in his experience with Catholic Church leaders,circa 1930's,some higher ups tended to be obsessed with neutrality so they could be on the potential winning side while not losing any of the comforts and positions in which they were accustomed.
DeleteL.Degrelle also relayed the elder Priests in Belgium had a voracious spirit and willingness to swim through Hell for the sake of the Church and Europe.
From what I've learned,and that isn't saying much,some of the senior posts in Rome were much too diplomatic and had lost focused concerning Catholics just War.
You're right,1918 was the end of an unprecedented era of Mankind.
Leon Degrelle,in his own words,repeatedly stated in his 1 meeting with Pope Pius XI the Vatican was leaning to publicly support Germany in 1939 because the Vatican had learned of the extensive Communist infiltration of American British and Canadian govts.
"Stalin and Communism will rule the entite World if the West wins this regrettable second War." He attributed this quote to Pope Pius XI.
If so Pope Pius XI sounds like the Holy Pope we need in 2021.
-A
Andrew, I'd rather be dead than red, but are you saying you wished Hitler won WW2 just so that communism would have lost?
DeleteWish they would've won Europe. It's worth noting Germany didn't want war with USA.
DeleteRoosevelt declared war on Germany first while simultaneously England rejected Germany's plea for peace with Britian USA + Canada for 4 yrs straight.
Pope Pius XI knew the USSR would be the only unanimous winner of WW2 if Germany lost Europe.
God bless -Andrew
Thanks for the reply. No, Hitler declared war on the US first, Roosevelt only declared war as a response.
DeleteCommunism is of course evil. But how is it more evil than the Nazi extermination of races paired with idolatry to the State? Nazi Germany controls all Europe, or USSR controls half of Europe? Which one would you pick
Also, the Church would have a hard time under a fascist led Europe, worse than half of Europe led by communists.
Introibo, I know you don't cover these things, but is Francoism compatible with Catholicism?
Delete@anon6:55
DeleteThe system of government produced by Francisco Franco in Spain (1936-1975) is unique to the country and circumstances. It is not something easily defined like Communism or Fascism. As such it was tolerated by the Church since the rights of Holy Mother Church were preserved and Franco was a fierce anti-Communist. Franco himself was a monarchist, and saw to it that when he died the Catholic Monarchy would be restored with King Juan Carlos of Spain.
God Bless,
---Introibo
Personally, I would ascribe more of the troubles facing Western Civilization (and Europe in particular) to World War I than to World War II.
DeleteSincerely,
A Simple Man
Thanks!
DeleteASM, yes that's what I and Andrew said. It's WW1. I'm a bit confused as to how we went to WW2, but I think Andrew just said it as a side note. I just then happened to disagree with him when he said he wished Nazi Germany won.
DeleteDo you think Sede-Empedia is a better description of our era as opposed to sedevacantist?
ReplyDeleteGod bless -Andrew
Hello Andrew,
DeleteWhat exactly do you mean by "empedia"? I'm not familiar with that term.
Sincerely,
A Simple Man
Sede Impedia-
Deletethe impeded see is a legal fact proper to canon law that applies to an episcopal chair when,due to captivity,relegation,exile or incapacity,the diocesan bishop is totally unable to exercise his pastoral function in the diocese.(doubtful Bishops practicing a non-Catholic religion within the Dioceses.)
We may have a true Pope in hiding or Siri may have been elected in 1958 + 1963.
This has zero to do with Cardinal Siri being 100% Judeo-Novus Ordo.
Rather,the legality and clandestine nature of everything that has happened since mid 1950's starting with the abolition of both the after Midnight Holy Communion fast + the apostolic Holy Week,and the ultra bizarre conclave of 1958.
These are questions rather than my opinion.
God bless -Andrew
Andrew,
DeleteIf your asking my opinion, I don't believe there is a "pope-in hiding." I'll let Simple Man speak for himself and give his opinion on the issue. See my post:
http://introiboadaltaredei2.blogspot.com/2015/02/one-question-siri-cant-answer.html
God Bless,
---Introibo
I read that post + generally agreed with it.
DeleteThere are loads of problems with Cardinal Siri + he practiced the new religion with no problem.
I've always wondered if he used the new or trad Rite of Ordination in his dioceses.
God bless -Andrew
A Pope in hiding for 60 years while the Novus Ordo has destroyed the Church would lose his pontificate by negligance and cowardice. Don't ask me for a quote I don't have one its just common sense.
DeleteRyan,
DeleteVery good deductive reasoning!!
JoAnn
Andrew,
DeleteAh, you meant "impedia" instead of "empedia".
Basically, after a cursory look at the subject of impediments as pertains to canon law, there's really no benefit in the practical order (at the bare minimum) for holding such a view. For starters, at the very bare minimum: What positive evidence is there that there exists a true Pope who's been legitimately impeded from claiming the Chair of Peter? (This, incidentally, is an issue that the Ratzinger Resignationists have also yet to answer satisfactorily to my knowledge; they assert that Benedict's resignation was improper, null, and void, yet they have not presented a sufficient reason as to how Ratzinger is legitimately impeded from being "Pope". Speculation of fraud or fear is not equivalent to positive evidence.)
It's certainly possible (albeit improbable, in my personal opinion) that there exists a Pontiff in secret that's been legitimately impeded from not only attaining the Holy See, but also from making their existence publicly known.
However, lacking such evidence to support such a thing, I can go no further than state that we exist in a state of "sede vacante".
If we aren't in a state of sede vacante, then we have two possibilities if the Chair is legitimately held by someone living:
1) The one holding the Chair legitimately is a material successor of Pius XII, which leads to the various errors in ecclesiology and theology that come with believing John XXIII, Paul VI, et al are true Popes (which must include holding Vatican II as a valid Ecumenical Council, among other things).
2) The one(s) holding the Chair legitimately is someone other than John XXIII, Paul VI, John Paul I, John Paul II, Benedict XVI, and Francis. As far as I'm aware, there is no positive evidence to support the existence of such an individual.
We know that we live in a time of sede vacante **at the very least**, because applying the principles of Catholic doctrine and dogma to our current situation leads to this conclusion. To go further and claim that we live in a state of "sede impedia" requires more.
Sincerely,
A Simple Man
Our Blessed Lord can do whatever he wants.
DeleteHe doesn't need your
"common sense" & stop putting words in people's mouths.
I never said we have a Pope in hiding,instead stating it as a possibility.
Idk who or how but it's going to take a miracle to cleanse the Holy Catholic Church.
Personally,I dont think my age group will live to see it but when it happens the surrounding events will be miraculous.
The sede opinion is the only idea which has made sense to me since 2011 + will assist at traditional chapels until our Blessed Lord decides further.
-Andrew
Introbio, do you handle divorce cases as a lawyer? As a Catholic, is it possible to "divorce" before a secular court for purely legal effects?
ReplyDelete@anon8:27
DeleteI do not practice Family Law. It is morally permissible for a Catholic to obtain a civil divorce in certain cases. For example, if a woman is being abused by her husband, and all efforts to get him to change prove useless, she is allowed to separate bed and board as well as obtain a civil divorce with a restraining order. She is not free to remarry but must remain as a celibate. She must also attempt to reconcile with him if possible. If he will not change his ways she may stay in that state permanently. If he dies, she would then be a widow and free to remarry if she so chooses.
God Bless,
---Introibo
Introbio
ReplyDeleteWhere did you get your info about sodomy being widespread in Islam.I did read somewhere that the perverse act of oral sex is allowed between a husband and wife.
Did you know that sodomy is widespread with hindu gurus in their temples in India with underage boys.Just sick.
@anon4:10
DeleteMohammedans despise unnatural vice but not for the reason Christians do. According to scholar Bruce Dunn, Islamic states place a distinction between the homosexual act (which is acceptable), and the emotional attachment, which is not acceptable. "Sexual relations in Middle Eastern Societies have historically articulated social hierarchies, that is dominant and subordinate social positions: adult men on top; women, boys, and slaves below." (See Dunne, B, [Spring 1998], The Middle East Report, "Power and sexuality in the Middle East."). Sex in Islamic society is about male pleasure through domination. A Mohammedan who sodomizes another is not seen as homosexual, only the one who gets sodomized. According to The New York Times, Male prostitution has been rampant in Islamic society right up to the modern day. They are even frequented by high ranking officials. (See NYT, 6/23/02 "Iran by the Numbers").
As for Hindus, they are pagan and it doesn't surprise me that the "gurus" are sexual perverts/predators.
God Bless,
---Introibo
Some cultures are better than others!
Delete@anon7:52
DeleteWithout a doubt. However, God doesn't accept "my culture made me do it" as absolution from guilt. The Natural Law is written on the heart, and therefore they are without excuse who perpetrate such heinous acts.
God Bless,
---Introibo
Yes. Some cultures are better than others means their culture is certainly inferior to other cultures, not that "my cukture made me do it" was a valid excuse.
DeleteTwo more timely articles:
ReplyDeletehttps://novusordowatch.org/2021/02/francis-vatican2-is-magisterium/
and
https://feedreader.com/observe/stevensperay.wordpress.com/+view
Lee
Lee,
DeleteThank you for the links!
God Bless,
---Introibo
Introibo,
ReplyDeleteI have always wondered what exactly is "Halal" food? How does it differ from "Kosher"? There is a "Halal" store near where I live and whenever I walk by it the smell is terrible. Thanks.
JoAnn
Joann,
DeleteAs Kosher food is in compliance with Jewish law, halal meat is in compliance with Islamic law. According to a very accurate and concise definition of it by the BBC News:
Halal food is that which adheres to Islamic law, as defined in the Koran. The Islamic form of slaughtering animals or poultry, dhabiha, involves killing through a cut to the jugular vein, carotid artery and windpipe. Animals must be alive and healthy at the time of slaughter and all blood is drained from the carcass.
And, yes, the process stinks like their wicked religion.
---Introibo