Monday, February 15, 2021

What's In A Word?

 

To My Readers: For the first time since January of 2020, I'm on vacation! The only week I could take was the week Lent begins. Thankfully, I'm close enough to a Traditionalist Chapel where I am, so I can enjoy activities with family and friends while keeping my religious obligations as well. This Lent, I'm working on becoming less of a hotheaded man--a lifelong struggle. I have made improvements (believe it or not) but I still have much work to do. Being abrasive and quick to anger often becomes a way of life as a NYC lawyer. Thanks to my guest poster, A Simple Man, for providing this week's post. Please pray for this most pious and intelligent young man that God may keep him strong in the One True Faith and bless him abundantly. He is helping me to keep this blog going in order to spread and strengthen the Faith in these perilous times. I will return with my own post next Monday, 2/22/21.

On January 18th, I published a post against one Aaron Debusschere a Vatican II sect apologist, who attacked my charge of heresy against the Vatican II document Gaudiam et Spes on his blog. On February 13th, Debusschere responded with a post addressed as a "letter" of sorts to A Simple Man. In his post, he accuses me of not addressing his arguments (!) and not wanting "rational discourse." I'll let Simple Man decide if and when he wants to reply via a post here, on The Romantic Catholic (Debusschere's blog), or via private e-mail exchange. I added an Addendum to my post of 1/18/21 as it was easy enough to show that Debusschere--like every Vatican II sect apologist I've encountered---is clueless. You can read the Addendum after the Conclusion section here:

introiboadaltaredei2.blogspot.com/2021/01/romanticizing-heresy.html. 

At the top of the post remains the link to Dubusschere's blog. I think you might enjoy it, along with the fine post below by A Simple Man.

God Bless you all, my dear readers---Introibo

What's In A Word?
By A Simple Man

What is a female, at least as far as humans go? It’s a seemingly simple question. Insofar as we are considering the most general case, dictionaries from decades past would provide rather straightforward answers:

“Among animals, one of that sex which conceives and brings forth young.” – An American Dictionary of the English Language, Noah Webster, online version of the original 1828 edition

fē′māl, adj. of the sex that produces young: pertaining to females: […] —n. one of the female sex, a woman.” -  Chambers’s Twentieth Century Dictionary of the English Language (Part 2 of 4: E-M)  originally published in 1908, online version hosted by Project Gutenberg

However, if you were to turn to Merriam-Webster’s online dictionary in its most current form [as of December 8, 2020], you would find the following under the definition of female (bold is emphasis mine): “of, relating to, or being the sex that typically has the capacity to bear young or produce eggs; having a gender identity that is the opposite of male.” These terms introduce ambiguity.

In like manner, Webster’s 1828 dictionary and Chambers’s 1908 dictionary define males as the sex with the capacity to procreate or beget young. The modern Merriam-Webster dictionary’s definition for male likewise reads like a gender-swapped version of the definition for female, including “having a gender identity that is the opposite of female.” Needless to say, this has placed circular reasoning within the two definitions themselves, so as to render the concepts of male and female nonsensical; using these modern definitions makes equivocation and homunculus arguments (the latter being an informal fallacy where a concept is explained in terms of the concept itself, without first explaining the original concept) impossible to avoid.

Some might argue that that’s the point; after all, if you cannot agree on basic definitions, then how can anyone make proper arguments, or reason rightly?

Why is language important? Although it would be erroneous to say that thought is impossible without language (as one medical study from 2016 regarding people with global aphasia has shown), it cannot be reasonably denied that language is the principal means by which humans communicate with each other. As languages have changed and evolved throughout the centuries, new words have been invented to designate new things (i.e. computer, telephone, rocket, etc.), while others have fallen into general disuse or restriction to specialized fields, sometimes to the point of becoming obsolete (when’s the last time you heard the words accable, conspurcation, pickeer, or regest?). However, even as languages change, and certain words may shift in spelling or form, the essence of the things that those words refer to does not change in the process. This is especially important with fundamental aspects of reality and human nature, since a poor or erroneous understanding of fundamentals will result in a skewed understanding of reality.

Although there are philosophical variations with regards to how definitions are considered or interpreted (as the Winter 2019 edition of “Definitions” from the online Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy demonstrates), our focus will be descriptive definitions, which not only aim to communicate the meaning of a particular thing (whether it be an object, a concept, an idea, and so on), but also aim to be sufficient in that meaning. In other words, a descriptive definition is one that should provide an adequate understanding of what the object being defined, in fact, is. [ASM’s note: to be even more specific, we are looking at descriptive definitions in a “real” sense, aiming to describe the essence of the thing in question. This is in contrast to a “nominal” sense, wherein the definition seeks to describe the ideas we have about the thing in question, even if those ideas are entirely separate – or even contrary – to the real essence of the thing itself.]

How are we able to provide definitions at all? Per St. Thomas Aquinas, our ability to understand corporeal things is due to the intellectual power of the soul. In particular, regarding to how we acquire intellectual knowledge, he says: “I answer that…Aristotle chose a middle course. For with Plato he agreed that intellect and sense are different. But he held that the sense has not its proper operation without the cooperation of the body; so that to feel is not an act of the soul alone, but of the "composite." And he held the same in regard to all the operations of the sensitive part. Since, therefore, it is not unreasonable that the sensible objects which are outside the soul should produce some effect in the "composite," Aristotle agreed with Democritus in this, that the operations of the sensitive part are caused by the impression of the sensible on the sense: not by a discharge, as Democritus said, but by some kind of operation. For Democritus maintained that every operation is by way of a discharge of atoms, as we gather from De Gener. i, 8. But Aristotle held that the intellect has an operation which is independent of the body's cooperation. Now nothing corporeal can make an impression on the incorporeal. And therefore in order to cause the intellectual operation according to Aristotle, the impression caused by the sensible does not suffice, but something more noble is required, for "the agent is more noble than the patient," as he says (De Gener. i, 5). Not, indeed, in the sense that the intellectual operation is effected in us by the mere impression of some superior beings, as Plato held; but that the higher and more noble agent which he calls the active intellect, of which we have spoken above (I:79:4) causes the phantasms [ASM’s note: a phantasm, as St. Thomas uses it philosophically, is the likeness of a particular thing, or the means by which representations of real things are perceived and understood by the intellect; see ST I, q. 84, a. 7, ad 2 & ad 3 for more.] received from the senses to be actually intelligible, by a process of abstraction. According to this opinion, then, on the part of the phantasms, intellectual knowledge is caused by the senses. But since the phantasms cannot of themselves affect the passive intellect, and require to be made actually intelligible by the active intellect, it cannot be said that sensible knowledge is the total and perfect cause of intellectual knowledge, but rather that it is in a way the material cause.” – ST I, q. 84, a. 6

In other words, it is through the senses of the body that our intellect perceives concrete things; from these perceptions, our intellect is capable of abstraction, by which we can understand the object as it is. (Such a process is not to be confused with subjective experience in the sense often used in modern times, which asserts that our encounters with things cannot provide any objective information about them. Objective information is necessarily true regardless of who subjectively experiences it.) Thus are we capable of attaining knowledge; furthermore, it is through this process of apprehension and abstraction that we are able to generalize, and understand things which are universal or immaterial. (Questions 84 through 89 of the First Part of the Summa Theologiae consider the acts of the intellect and how we are capable of understanding. However, the chosen excerpt suffices for the topic at hand.)

Per the 1910 Catholic Encyclopedia, the essentials of knowledge are as follows: “Knowledge is essentially the consciousness of an object, i.e. of any thing, fact, or principle belonging to the physical, mental, or metaphysical order, that may in any manner be reached by cognitive faculties. An event, a material substance, a man, a geometrical theorem, a mental process, the immortality of the soul, the existence and nature of God, may be so many objects of knowledge...Knowledge supposes a judgment, explicit or implicit. Apprehension, that is, the mental conception of a simple present object, is generally numbered among the cognitive processes, yet, of itself, it is not in the strict sense knowledge, but only its starting-point. Properly speaking, we know only when we compare, identify, discriminate, connect; and these processes, equivalent to judgments, are found implicitly even in ordinary sense-perception...Truth and certitude are conditions of knowledge. A man may mistake error for truth and give his unreserved assent to a false statement. He may then be under the irresistible illusion that he knows, and subjectively the process is the same as that of knowledge; but an essential condition is lacking, namely, conformity of thought with reality, so that there we have only the appearance of knowledge. On the other hand, as long as any serious doubt remains in his mind, a man cannot say that he knows. "I think so" is far from meaning "I know it is so"; knowledge is not mere opinion or probable assent...”

To summarize, we are able to provide descriptive definitions of things because our intellect is capable of apprehending these things as they are. To deny this capacity of the intellect is to implicitly abolish the very possibility of objective truth, for we would be unable to truly differentiate between things in themselves, and thus unable to differentiate between truth and falsehood.

What are the consequences of abandoning this approach to knowledge? To deny the possibility of descriptive definitions requires an epistemological and metaphysical worldview that is incompatible with Catholicism, and Thomism in particular. As has been seen from various figures in past centuries, their attempts to abandon the realism of Scholastic philosophy has resulted in numerous, often contradictory theories of knowledge. In particular, René Descartes’s decision to start from a position of absolute doubt has ushered forth entire schools which reject or distort the traditional concept of metaphysics altogether; without Descartes’s starting point, we may never have arrived at the notorious ideas of individuals like John Locke (who, as an empiricist, aimed at dethroning Aristotelianism and Scholasticism from the universities), Immanuel Kant (who professed that he “had to deny knowledge in order to make room for faith”, restricting knowledge to an empirical realm such that God and the soul were unknowable by the human mind; furthermore, he insisted that we are incapable of experiencing things in themselves), and Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel (whose ideas have been acknowledged as the precursor to existentialism [ASM’s note: Introibo recently wrote about some of the errors of existentialist philosophy in “Encountering Error], phenomenology, and the philosophies of more notorious individuals like Karl Marx and Friedrich Nietzsche).* Thus have we meandered our way to the modern world, where mainstream philosophy and epistemology have become so deranged that objective truth is rejected altogether: “If there were objective values, then they would be entities or qualities or relations of a very strange sort, utterly different from anything else in the universe.” – Mackie, John Leslie. Ethics: inventing right and wrong. London, Penguin Books, 1977, p. 38 [ASM’s note: J.L. Mackie (1917 – 1981) was an Australian philosopher known for being a moral skeptic and a staunch atheist; the aforementioned book infamously opens with the claim that “there are no objective values.”]

Such is the scourge of the philosophies employed by Modernism, which has been covered before on this blog. Papal condemnations of Modernists and their ideas are many:

“[…]Let us turn for a moment, Venerable Brethren, to that most disastrous doctrine of agnosticism. By it every avenue to God on the side of the intellect is barred to man, while a better way is supposed to be opened from the side of a certain sense of the soul and action. But who does not see how mistaken is such a contention? For the sense of the soul is the response to the action of the thing which the intellect or the outward senses set before it. Take away the intelligence, and man, already inclined to follow the senses, becomes their slave. Doubly mistaken, from another point of view, for all these fantasies of the religious sense will never be able to destroy common sense, and common sense tells us that emotion and everything that leads the heart captive proves a hindrance instead of a help to the discovery of truth. We speak of truth in itself — for that other purely subjective truth, the fruit of the internal sense and action, if it serves its purpose for the play of words, is of no benefit to the man who wants above all things to know whether outside himself there is a God into whose hands he is one day to fall...” -  Pope Pius X, Pascendi Dominici Gregis (On the Doctrine of the Modernists), 1907, par. 39

“[…]There are to be found today, and in no small numbers, men, of whom the Apostle says that: "having itching ears, they will not endure sound doctrine: but according to their own desires they will heap up to themselves teachers, and will indeed turn away their hearing from the truth, but will be turned unto fables" (II Tim. iv. 34). Infatuated and carried away by a lofty idea of the human intellect, by which God’s good gift has certainly made incredible progress in the study of nature, confident in their own judgment, and contemptuous of the authority of the Church, they have reached such a degree of rashness as not to hesitate to measure by the standard of their own mind even the hidden things of God and all that God has revealed to men. Hence arose the monstrous errors of "Modernism," which Our Predecessor rightly declared to be "the synthesis of all heresies," and solemnly condemned. We hereby renew that condemnation in all its fulness, Venerable Brethren, and as the plague is not yet entirely stamped out, but lurks here and there in hidden places, We exhort all to be carefully here and there in hidden places, We exhort all to be carefully on their guard against any contagion of the evil, to which we may apply the words Job used in other circumstances: "It is a fire that devoureth even to destruction, and rooteth up all things that spring" (Job xxxi. 12). Nor do We merely desire that Catholics should shrink from the errors of Modernism, but also from the tendencies or what is called the spirit of Modernism. Those who are infected by that spirit develop a keen dislike for all that savours of antiquity and become eager searchers after novelties in everything: in the way in which they carry out religious functions, in the ruling of Catholic institutions, and even in private exercises of piety...” – Pope Benedict XV, Ad Beatissimi Apostolorum (Appealing for Peace), 1914, par. 25

“[St. Thomas’s] teaching with regard to the power or value of the human mind is irrefragable. "The human mind has a natural knowledge of being and the things which are in themselves part of being as such, and this knowledge is the foundation of our knowledge of first principles" (Contra Gentes, II, 1xxxiii). Such a doctrine goes to the root of the errors and opinions of those modern philosophers who maintain that it is not being itself which is perceived in the act of intellection, but some modification of the percipient; the logical consequence of such errors is agnosticism, which was so vigorously condemned in the Encyclical Pascendi… if we are to avoid the errors which are the source and fountain-head of all the miseries of our time, the teaching of Aquinas must be adhered to more religiously than ever. For Thomas refutes the theories propounded by Modernists in every sphere, in philosophy, by protecting, as We have reminded you, the force and power of the human mind and by demonstrating the existence of God by the most cogent arguments…It is therefore clear why Modernists are so amply justified in fearing no Doctor of the Church so much as Thomas Aquinas.” – Pope Pius XI, Studiorum Ducem (On St. Thomas Aquinas), 1923,  par. 15, 27

In conclusion, it is incumbent upon us in these days to stand up for objective truth, to articulate the importance of acknowledging reality as it is, and to point out the errors which spawn from ignoring such. Even in the face of those who would scream that we are simply being “intolerant” or “bigoted”, we must affirm and uphold the intrinsic value of definitions which describe things in themselves. Ambiguous and subjective terms are a recipe for logical and rhetorical disaster, as can be seen from the actions and behavior of those who can say (with a straight face!) that a human born with male genitalia and chromosomes is, in fact, a woman; that a marriage can include sodomitical, zoophilic, or even objectophilic relationships; that non-Catholics do, in fact, possess means of salvation separate from Jesus Christ and His Church; and so on.

To behave as if such definitions (and the concepts derived from them) are arbitrary or irrelevant is to reject your God-given nature as a rational being.

 

* For additional reading about the philosophy of Descartes and his intellectual successors compared to that of St. Thomas Aquinas, I highly recommend the essay written by the Traditionalist Mario Derksen titled “Against the Skeptics: How Thomist Realism Refutes Radical Skepticism”; it covers more details (which were glossed over in this post for the sake of brevity) regarding the origin of modern philosophical skepticism and how St. Thomas explains the workings of human knowledge.


54 comments:

  1. What is a female? It is a creature that is mankind's downfall and therefore man's weakness. JUST KIDDING, well sort of.

    Descartes: "I think, therefore I am."
    SSPX/Indult/Novus Ordo: I don't think, therefore I believe Francis is the pope and the Vatican II church is Catholic.

    Lee

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    1. Lee,

      "What is a female? It is a creature that is mankind's downfall and therefore man's weakness. JUST KIDDING, well sort of."

      Traditionalists are known for making statements like the quote above, and then complain when referred to as women haters or misogynistic.

      Men, just remember if it wasn't for Mother Mary there would be no Jesus!

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    2. Please not another misoginy discussion. Stop it. Grow up. Both of you. You will only make us look like chickens.

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    3. Anon. 10:55,

      Thank you for telling me how it is. It's comments like that which remind me that joking about such things can trigger misandry. Just remember, that if it wasn't for God's goodness there would be neither man nor woman = human race.

      Just curious, was St. Paul a women hater or a misogynistic when he said, "Let women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted them to speak, but to be subject, as also the law saith." 1 Corinthians 14:34

      Lee

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    4. Sounds like 2nd grade in here for broaching the female comment to begin with. Juvenile. Grow up.

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    5. Let it go Lee. It is a turn off to some of us. You made your point.

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    6. Anon. 2:57 and 2:59

      I appreciate both of you being so kind to me and no hard feelings whoever you are.

      Lee

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  2. He was JUST KIDDING. Traditionalist have no sense of humor. Thank you for the chuckle Lee. I liked your comparison of Descartes and the semi-traditionalist better. So true and yet it's so sad that it is true.
    Martha C.

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    1. "He was JUST KIDDING". You forgot the "sort of". Traditionalist women hardly ever stick up for other women. Par for the course.

      Maggie May

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    2. Oh come on now Maggie May. It's only a big deal when we women make it a big deal. I've seen some pretty mean jokes about males in the last few years and if they defend themselves, women get all bent out of shape on other platforms. Either laugh and move on or just brush it off. Plus I'm new to this website and comments don't affect what I think of the article or the person especially if I don't actually know them.
      Martha C.

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    3. "Maggie May" yeah sure lol. I'll bet ten dollars "Maggie May" is JoAnn.

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    4. To Anon@2:48 PM,

      Unless you have positive evidence beyond mere suspicion, please refrain from accusing anyone (anonymous account or otherwise) of posting under duplicate names.

      Sincerely,

      A Simple Man

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    5. "Unless you have positive evidence beyond mere suspicion, please refrain from accusing anyone (anonymous account or otherwise) of posting under duplicate names."

      Why? Did I harm someone?

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    6. @anon1:31
      Yes, you did. You clearly accused Joann of posting under a different name and thereby attacked her character. I thank Simple Man for responding with the correct rule of civility. I value all my readers and those who regularly comment such as Joann, Jannie, Joanna, Andrew, Tom A, etc.

      I repeat the rule articulated by Simple Man:

      "Unless you have positive evidence beyond mere suspicion, please refrain from accusing anyone (anonymous account or otherwise) of posting under duplicate names."

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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    7. "Yes, you did. You clearly accused Joann of posting under a different name and thereby attacked her character."

      If I am right and she posted under a different name that does not attack her character. It's an anonymous blog. That's what people do who want to hide their real identities right "Introibo"? I've also seen you accuse anonymous posters of being the people you suspect them of being (e.g. the Dimond brothers) many times in the past. That's all I have to say and I'll drop the subject.

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    8. @anon3:16
      Your criticism of my past actions is fair. I have so accused the Dimond Bothers because their long screeds are noted for their usual invectives such as calling everyone who disagrees a "liar," and the distortion of what was written. "George" a Feeneyite who use to post here (the only charitable Feeneyite I've eve encountered) stated "If that's not Bro. Peter Diamond, it's his greatest follower" because the writing was so similar.

      Nevertheless, I could have been wrong. Yes, this is an anonymous blog, and I choose anonymity. So can my commenters. However, I see no need to accuse someone of posting anonymously who always uses their name and is a devout Traditionalist (unlike Fred and Bobby). It makes them seem surreptitious. I believe if Joann had something to say she would post her name to it as she always does.

      In keeping with my Lenten resolution, I will no longer accuse anonymous posters of being others, and I ask all others to do the same. There is enough animosity in the world without Traditionalists needlessly antagonizing others--and that includes me first and foremost.

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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  3. Thank you once again, ASM; you chose a topic that really speaks to me (no pun intended) and deserves some serious attention.
    IMO, traditional dictionaries and the study of rhetoric and philosophy in schools never should have been shelved in the first place. Modernism is so intellectually empty, it's high flying verbiage is just nonsense when you take it apart. No shock that Karol Wojtyla's thesis was flunked for that reason. His instructor famously recalled that in it he "Writes much, says little".

    Modernism's substitution for Thomistic thought reduces serious debate to ad hominems, logical fallacies and circular arguments. Could the cognitive dissonance and mental dysfunction that come from this kind of UNreason be what is ramping up the verbal and physical belligerence in people, lately?
    The eighth grader of the nineteenth century spoke more eloquently than today's college graduate, whose disorganized speech reveals a sadly disorganized mind.
    Our Lord spoke plainly and concisely, telling us to do the same thing... "let your yes mean yes and nay, nay". He warned how the Father of Lies used ambiguity - the ploy of the Modernists - to cause the fall of our first parents.
    Modernism is truly our worst enemy, attacking truth through the crafty use of words.
    Jannie

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    1. Jannie,

      This is one of the insidious effects behind the modern push to control and censor certain words and concepts as "offensive" (not in the truly Catholic sense of being vulgar or crass, but in the sense of being contrary to the current political or cultural orthodoxy): by limiting the words available for people to use in "polite society" (which is somewhat amusing, given that "polite society" currently has no issue with casual swearing; meanwhile, it's unwilling to countenance those who would say - for example - that the act of abortion is inherently murderous), they correspondingly limit our capacity to make distinctions.

      As such, as the means for making distinctions become fewer, various ideas, groups, and entities - some of which are mutually exclusive in a truly real sense - end up becoming grouped together "by default", you might say.

      Sincerely,

      A Simple Man

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    2. Don't think any normal person likes words being used to discredit or bash them, Catholic or not!

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  4. I keep running in to various Trads who call themselves Semi-Trads and Neo-Trads on the internet. Could someone please explain to me the meaning and beliefs of these various Trad groups. Are they all basically R&R??
    Thanks!

    JoAnn

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    1. Joann,
      To the best of my knowledge and belief they are R&R, but I could be mistaken. Maybe Simple Man or a reader could enlighten us.

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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    2. I don’t think anyone calls themselves “semi trads.” It is a term some sedevacantists use to describe the R&R crowd. Though it is ironic that the term “R&R” was coined by Fr. Cekada and then adopted by the R&Rers. So maybe they also adopted “semi-trad.” If the shoe fits...

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    3. JoAnn,

      As far as I'm aware, I've never seen anyone refer to themselves as a "semi-trad"; I've only ever seen it used by sedevacantists (first by N.O.W.) with regards to those who call themselves Traditionalists yet are of the R&R persuasion, a la the SSPX.

      Neo-traditionalism, as far as I'm aware, is more of a catch-all term that's arisen in the decades following Vatican II to describe those who - for one reason or another - reject its changes and reforms, and seek to revive a more traditional liturgy and culture. Of course, the reasons as to *why* someone may be a neo-traditionalist vary; by this metric (which is more commonly used in mainstream publications than even "Recognize & Resist"), conservative Novus Ordo, Indult (FSSP/ICKSP), SSPX, sedeprivationists, and sedevacantists would *all* qualify as "neo-trads".

      Sincerely,

      A Simple Man

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    4. Speaking of R&R, it's time to get serious and acknowledge that they're heretics and neo-Gallicans, not just "Catholics in error and contradiction", as some sedevacantists believe.

      https://novusordowatch.org/2021/02/ultramontanism-gallicanism-pope-pius9-semi-trads/

      See also NOW's comment below the post.

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    5. Anon @7:40,
      Agree with you 100%. How can the R&R be Catholic as some claim. One is either Catholic or a heretic. There is no in-between!
      JoAnn

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    6. Tom & ASM,
      I meant to write "are called Semi-Trads" instead of "who call themselves". Sorry for the confusion.

      JoAnn

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    7. I don't hold my stated position now.

      https://romeward.com/articles/239750151/moderate-sedevacantism-versus-sectarian-sedevacantism-a-summary-of-the-disputed-issues

      https://romeward.com/articles/239752007/heresy-in-history

      - anon@7:40

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  5. What is the Church's teaching on brain death?

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    1. @anon9:21
      Brain death should not be determinative but clinical death, as there is no definitive teaching by the Church and brain death is open to abuse. See my post where I touch on the subject indirectly:

      http://introiboadaltaredei2.blogspot.com/2020/04/the-sacraments-and-death.html

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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    2. Dr. Paul A. Byrne MD, neonatologist, writes extensively on the subject of "brain death" as a misnomer. He is a compelling witness to the facts.
      Jannie

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  6. Is there a short summary book on Thomism/at least the Summa that is 100% in modern and laymen's terms?

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  7. Does
    "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge just judgment." (Jn 7:34) contradict with "A man is known by his appearance, and a wise man, when you meet him, is known by his countenance" (Ecclesiasticus 19:27)?

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    1. I don't want to be out of line chiming in on your question, but it is an interesting one to me, and I cant help throwing my two cents in.
      Might what you quote in John mean that we shouldn't jump to hasty conclusions based on what we see in a situation, because further investigation may be needed to find the truth?

      Then, regarding your second quote, the statement may address the gaze and movements of a person as you speak to him, revealing his mind on a subject.
      Both cases require judgment though each of a different type.
      Body language experts, whatever their religious belief would probably agree with what you quoted in Ecclus.
      Jannie

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    2. To anon@5:05 AM,

      Not strictly.

      First, the second verse you cited is 19:26 from the Douay-Rheims, not 19:27. Combined, the two verses read " A man is known by his look, and a wise man, when thou meetest him, is known by his countenance. The attire of the body, and the laughter of the teeth, and the gait of the man, shew what he is." The Knox Bible rendering of these same two verses gives "Yet a man’s looks betray him; a man of good sense will make himself known to thee at first meeting; the clothes he wears, the smile on his lips, his gait, will all make thee acquainted with a man’s character." In other words, this particular verse from this wisdom literature (being from a book of ethical teachings), is providing sensible advice: in general (but not always), the way a man presents himself will tell a great deal about their character. This goes not only into one's clothing (because that is generally a sign of one's material wealth, which is not a general indicator of character), but also into how they present and comport themselves (hence, one's "countenance" also includes their manner of speaking and attitude; as such, a wise man can be known by the way they portray themselves even if they be clothed as a vagabond).

      In contrast, John 7:24 (not 7:34 as you cited), which states "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge just judgment" is an admonition by Christ against the Jews when they were astounded by a miracle he had previously performed. To quote the whole passage from v. 19 on: "[Jesus said] Did Moses not give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law? Why seek you to kill me? The multitude answered, and said: Thou hast a devil; who seeketh to kill thee? Jesus answered, and said to them: One work I have done; and you all wonder: Therefore, Moses gave you circumcision (not because it is of Moses, but of the fathers;) and on the sabbath day you circumcise a man. If a man receive circumcision on the sabbath day, that the law of Moses may not be broken; are you angry at me because I have healed the whole man on the sabbath day? Judge not according to the appearance, but judge just judgment."

      Per Haydock's commentary, the work mentioned in v. 21 is the "healing [of] the man at the pond, who had been ill thirty-eight years. Wi. — Jesus here speaks of the cure that he had performed on the paralytic, eighteen months before, and which had scandalized the Jews. See C. v, v. 9. et dein. of this gospel. V." However, His response to the Jews is that because they recognized Moses as truly sent from God, they gave the Mosaic rite of circumcision priority over even the Divinely-mandated Sabbath. As such, if they truly judged justly, they would realize that Christ - as one sent from the Father as well, but in a more perfect manner - was well within His right to restore a man's strength, even if it be on the Sabbath.

      In other words, the verses are speaking of two different things entirely.

      Sincerely,

      A Simple Man

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    3. I forgot to add that if my analysis is right, there is no contradiction in these verses.
      But whether it is right or wrong is beside the point that there can never be a contradiction in the words of Sacred Scripture.
      Thanks
      Jannie

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    4. I have a concern that is really bothering me. When I get real upset, frustrated, angry, etc., I find myself swearing. It will just happen without me even cognitively thinking. When this happens, I get very upset with myself and feel like I am doomed to hell when this happens. When I was growing up in the 1950's-60's my Catholic Grandmother who I loved greatly used to admonish anyone she heard swearing. I feel like I have failed her and God when I swear. Any suggestions about how I can stop this swearing? Any suggestions how I can deal with it when it happens?

      Thanks.

      JoAnn

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    5. JoAnn,

      It's a habit that can be hard to break (like any) and a very common problem for many. When you have a chance read this Sermon from St. John Vianny called "ALL THAT YOU SAY OVER AND ABOVE THESE IS OF EVIL" Here is a link (hopefully it works):

      https://www.theworkofgod.org/Library/Sermons/JdVianey/Sermons2.htm#ALL%20THAT%20YOU%20SAY%20OVER%20AND%20ABOVE%20THESE%20IS%20OF%20EVIL

      If I find myself using bad language I'll try to go and re-read that sermon. It scares me to the point where I don't want to curse any more. Hope it helps you.

      Lee

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    6. Lee,
      Thank you for sharing!

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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    7. Lee,
      Thanks! I don't want to swear and I am scared when it happens. At times, it just seems to come out when I get frustrated, angry etc. I feel like I am going to hell as a result.
      Does anyone know if there are venial vs. mortal sins as regards to swearing?

      Thanks.

      JoAnn

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    8. Joann,
      It is necessary to define terms. The words "cursing" and "swearing" have various meanings. Theologian Jone breaks it down as follows:

      a) profanity, is the use of sacred names in anger against some creature (venial sin)
      b) blasphemy, the use of such names in anger against God or in contempt of Him (mortal sin)
      c) abusive language, which is not a sin against the Second Commandment but which may offend against charity or is a sin of anger. (See "Moral Theology" [1961], pg. 120).

      Abusive language may be mortal or venial depending how angry and offensive the occurrence.

      ---Introibo

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    9. Introibo,
      Thanks much for the distinctions and clarifications!

      JoAnn

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    10. I use curse words a lot too.
      Very bad habit and it's very difficult to stop.
      -Andrew

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    11. JoAnn,
      I submit the following as a sinner much worse than you. I read this entry just after reading your post, from The Revelations of St. Bridget of Sweden (Book 3, Chapter 19). They are the words of Jesus to St. Bridget. I really hope this helps you, it does help me.
      “…but now different thoughts are allowed to come to you against your will. But have a prudent fear of God, and put great trust in Me, your God, knowing for certain that when your mind does not take pleasure in sinful thoughts but struggles against them by detesting them, then they become a purgation and a crown for the soul.
      But if you take pleasure in committing even a slight sin, which you know to be a sin, and you do so trusting to your own abstinence and presuming on grace, without doing penance and reparation for it, know that it can become a mortal sin.
      Accordingly, if some sinful pleasure of any kind comes into your mind, you should right away think about where it is heading and repent. After human nature was weakened, sin has frequently arisen out of human infirmity. There is no one who does not sin at least venially, but God has in His mercy given mankind the remedy of feeling sorrow for each sin as well as anxiety about not having made sufficient reparation for the sins for which one has made reparation.
      God hates nothing so much as when you know you have sinned but do not care, trusting to your other meritorious actions, as if, because of them, God would put up with your sin, as if He could not be glorified without you, or as if He would let you do something evil with His permission, seeing all the good deeds you have done, since, even if you did a hundred good deeds for each wicked one, you still would not be able to pay God back for His goodness and love.
      So, then, maintain a rational fear of God and, even if you cannot prevent these thoughts, then at least bear them patiently and use your will to struggle against them. You will not be condemned because of their entering your head, unless you take pleasure in them, since it is not within your power to prevent them.
      Again, maintain your fear of God in order not to fall through pride, even though you do not consent to the thoughts. Anyone who stands firm stands by the power of God alone.
      Thus fear of God is like the gateway into Heaven. Many there are who have fallen headlong to their deaths, because they cast off the fear of God and were then ashamed to make a confession before men, although they had not been ashamed to sin before God. Therefore, I shall refuse to absolve the sin of a person who has not cared enough to ask My pardon for a small sin. In this manner, sins are increased through habitual practice, and a venial sin that could have been pardoned through contrition becomes a serious one through a person's negligence and scorn.”




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    12. JoAnn,
      I would use an awful lot of foul language in the past and managed to diminish the use of profanities but can't seem to cut them out completely. We're all living in a neo-paganized world, where vice is the new "virtue", and there seems to be even more and more reasons for anger as each day passes.
      I try to remember the words of St. Thomas Aquinas, that he who is not angry when there's a just cause for anger, is the one's who's immoral. This is, however, no incentive to excessive anger and that's where I fail miserably.
      I can be horribly quick-tempered and foul-mouthed as well.
      What I find helpful in combating these vices is: cutting down on modern entertainment (esp. TV and contemporary movies), not engaging in idle talk on the Internet and fasting. Generally, not polluting one's mind with modern craziness of any kind.
      I go for spiritual reading and "old-fashioned" wholesome movies for some morally licit amusement.
      Unfortunately, there are also circumstances beyond my control (like savages living upstairs who hold me and my family in utter contempt, and there's quiet at night only).

      Lee and Anon 4:55,
      thank you very much for the sermon and the excerpt from St. Bridget's revelations - they're invaluable!

      Andrew,
      indeed, old habits die hard, and the fact that the modern world exalts rather than condemns the use of bad language is a great difficulty in overcoming this vice. If we only had more of the modest and wise Catholic ladies of old, like JoAnn's Grandmother, still around, I guess our struggle would be much easier.

      God Bless You All,
      Joanna S.

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    13. Given this thread on the subject of Anger, Bp. Donald Sanborn provided the following conferences on "Anger and its Effects" uploaded earlier this week that you might find edifying: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdIRQ2sQjdQ

      Sincerely,

      A Simple Man

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    14. Thank you, ASM!
      I've been meaning to watch that conference - the previous ones on this channel by Bp. Sanborn are very informative. A good spiritual retreat for Lent indeed!

      God Bless,
      Joanna S.

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    15. @Joanna S,
      Agree.
      The older people in my neck of the woods talk and act like foul mouth vulgar college students.
      So depressing to not have older gentle Catholic modest types around nowadays.
      God bless -Andrew

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  8. I sent this question to my friend Anthony from Louisville KY, and he referred me to you:

    "Hey Anthony; in the interest of thorough reconciliation with God, do you know of any book or reference defining what is required in restitution for particular sins?
    For example, theft requires restitution, but for instance attacks on another's public reputation may require a public method of restitution.

    Know of any books like that?"

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    1. @Unknown
      I would suggest any good manual (pre-V2 of course) on moral theology. There is no "list of restitution" but for each sin you commit, if you look it up, there will be the requirements for restitution included. Such excellent theology manuals (all entitled "Moral Theology") were written by theologians:

      1. McHugh and Callan (2 volumes)
      2. Prummer (one volume)
      3. Jone (one volume)

      You can check on "bookfinder.com"

      God Bless,

      ---Introibo

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  9. Introibo/ASM,
    What arguments would you make to support Mongenism in the discussion?

    God bless,
    Paweł

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    1. It is a discussion only at the level of natural reason, without divine revelation. The person I'm talking to thinks that evolution rules out monogenism because no genetic research proves it.

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